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12:29 AM
Congratulations!
 
12:52 AM
It's not a good/right answer, but that's not why you delete something.
 
 
2 hours later…
2:53 AM
Thanks, @Pëkka!
 
3:42 AM
I've got two VLQ audits today. Why?
aaand I'm not allowed to review any more VLQ until after 20 hours despite passing everything.
 
4:00 AM
Not sure why this got deleted? stackoverflow.com/questions/16211431/…
 
@LaszloPapp roomba
it's exactly one year and a day after the question was posted
 
yeah, but why did it get deleted? It is a valid question.
 
Because the system automatically deletes questions which have no answers, no votes, and no comments that have been sitting around for an entire year.
 
Tumbleweed+ heuristic
@animuson do they contribute to the q-ban, by the way?
 
that is a really silly regulation.
I will flag it for undeletion. I see no reason to delete a valid question just becaues of that.
Also, I would personally upvote it if I could (not just to avoid the silly deletion).
 
4:10 AM
@LaszloPapp the asker doesn't care about the answer, so why undelete?
 
a question is not about the OP. We build a knowledge base here
 
Unless you provide a better reason in that flag than "I disagree that questions like this should be undeleted" it is going to get declined.
 
@LaszloPapp nobody else has shown any interest so far either
 
I really do not know what is a better reasoning than it is a valid question.
@JanDvorak: so what?
 
so why keep them?
 
4:12 AM
why keep a valid compilation failure issue that has got no downvotes, clear and could help people in the future building the module? Sounds straight-forward to answer to me.
Heck, it is not even closed!
 
Suggestion: questions should not be deleted for inactivity before they were poked n times?
 
I do not think any question should be deleted without closure.
not automatically, that is.
it is a very very bad and destructive behavior.
 
even with negative score?
I disagree
 
negative scores do not mean anything to me without explanation.
and if there is an explanation, it is likely to get closed anyhow.
 
how does roomba decide if constructive criticism has been given?
 
4:17 AM
I cannot possibly mention a reason when to reasonably downvote a question without close vote or flag.
 
not enough attention = long outstanding questions that stay open = breeding grounds for spam
CVQ is nice, but it's not cutting it IMO
 
that would be caught easily by the late answer review queue
but I do not see why it would be special ground for spams anyhow.
 
@LaszloPapp recommendation questions are
 
this is a compile-time error with a specific module. As I said, I would even upvote it knowing that working with this module can be painful, especially on Windows.
 
how does Roomba know?
you can always reask
 
4:20 AM
Well, it is clear to me: not closed, should not be deleted.
if and only if you realize it is deleted.
but it really goes unnoticed, so I am quite worried about this behavior of Roomba.
it is quite destructive behavior for no valid reasons IMHO.
not closed questions should not be touched.
 
I'm not.
 
they are deemed valid and on-topic by the community.
 
Ever heard of spring cleaning?
You throw out every item you haven't used during the entire past year
it really helps.
 
/me gets into depression how many thousands of valid questions may have been deleted. :(
 
This is spring cleaning.
 
4:21 AM
Just because it hasn't been closed doesn't mean the community has deemed it valid. That's like saying just because a tomato hasn't been picked yet it hasn't been deemed ripe.
Maybe someone just forgot.
 
huh?
people even edited, ffs.
just because no one had ideas so far to solve this difficult issue, it does not mean, it is not valid.
 
By two people who didn't have the privilege to vote to close at the time...
 
please please please pretty please, do not be so destructive. Close votes exist for a reason.
and flags.
again, I am quite worried.
I will upvote every question now that I can and did not before in such situations to avoid this Roomba mess.
 
By two people who were not entirely convinced the question was actually useful
 
I will even add noisy comments that this question is useful
to stop and block this roomba nonsense.
 
4:25 AM
You're talking about a vague question that's just an error dump with no additional information, from a user who hasn't even visited the site since the day after they asked it.
 
If you upvote any piece of nonsense, I will smash you with a giant +.
2
 
I'm sure if you hadn't lost 2 reputation from that suggested edit, you wouldn't even care right now.
 
I do not care about the OP, and actually it is quite easy to reproduce the issue. Have you even tried?
 
@LaszloPapp then repost and self-answer
 
OK, I am off. As a Qt developer having worked on this module, and accusing me with 2 rep, when I have almost 16K.
That was a very unworthy and non-constructive sentence. Hope you will see that one day.
 
4:26 AM
@LaszloPapp well, I still care about having a round number
@LaszloPapp ad hominem alert
 
I can't see any other reason why you'd argue for undeletion of such a low quality question that has gotten no attention.
If you really think it's such a worthy question, follow Jan's advice and post it yourself and provide an answer.
 
Sure, you know better, you know the module better than a developer and user behind who can even reproduce the issue and you have not tried. Good luck with helping in the qt tag then, man. That is all I can say. I am off. I do not wanna be controlled by people knowing literally nothing about the topic.
 
@LaszloPapp well if you do know better, repost.
until then, your words are just that.
 
Sure, you know better, you know the module better than a developer and user behind who can even reproduce the issue and you have not tried. Good luck with helping in the qt tag then, man. That is all I can say. I am off. I do not wanna be controlled by people knowing literally nothing about the topic. I will add noisy comments and upvotes all around from now on. Also, I am quite worried we have moderators who accuse experts in the field with 2 rep.
 
ad hominem. I'm out.
 
4:31 AM
@LaszloPapp I will warn you that adding useless "noisy" comments on questions just for the sake of adding comments will not end well in the long-run. Just saying.
 
I really do not care what you say about it. I simply do not trust you anymore, sorry, nor Roomba, especially after unworthy comments like "you would not care if you did not lose two reputation" knowing that I am actively speaking up againt nonsensely closed and deleted comments in the Qt tag.
 
@LaszloPapp Let me warn you this is a bad decision
 
Anyone wanna get slimmed?
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user259573we cannot enounce sufficiency the importance of a becoming study and nutritional organisation when it comes to slimming effectively. We glower when we see companies try to trade supplements or services that require to get slimming but are actually idle by science and may modify be destructive. Fe...

 
Especially knowing that, I am usually even exceeding the repcap heavily during the weekends, well, meh. In fact, if I had not lost two rep here, I would not have gotten notification, and such nonsense would have gone unnoticed.... sigh.
 
In other words SPAM
 
4:36 AM
@ɥʇǝS I got it ;-)
 
@JanDvorak cool. Now I just need to get 10k on meta...
 
@ɥʇǝS good luck with that
 
meta sucks.
 
@JanDvorak I'm already half way there so...
 
@JanDvorak: no, I will not "re-ask". I will not take the risk of being target for stupid unexplained downvotes based on childish revenge. I am sure it would not be downvoted easily, but that is a general attitude.
 
4:40 AM
@LaszloPapp revenge for what?
 
@JanDvorak: nvm.
 
?_?
 
It is really frustrating to see how moderators think themselves above the technical experts about technical questions without having any clue about the technical content. This is just plain embarrasing. It is not like I would go around and tell Jon S. that you suck at C#, I know better.
 
No one said you suck at anything though.
 
Not accepting one of the highest scored users's feedback in a certain tag - who even happens to be an upstream developer - without any explanation why that question is bad, without any effort to try to reproduce the problem, etc... That is plain arrogance and abusing the power.
 
4:44 AM
@LaszloPapp ... what?
Noone disagreed with you saying the question was good
except for agreement to disagreement
 
@JanDvorak: the flag got declined "with no evidence" found. It was claimed by an upstream developer behind it and one of the highest scored users in the tag.
yet, there was NO ANY reason provided why it is not evident. I would have really expected some kind of "I tried to reproduce it, but I could not, I would need more information, etc"
 
@LaszloPapp if a flag isn't clear-cut correct, you always run the risk of rejection
 
I cannot be totally clear when I have limit for the text.
this is what I wrote:
"I really do not see why this question would be deleted. This is a valid and clear compilation-time issue with building the module on Windows. It is not an easy question because the module is somewhat special, so that is probably the reason why it did not get attention for answers aside from the usual, "many questions are unanswered". Fwiw, I am an upstream Qt developer, having worked a bit on this module, and I know it can be painful to use it. I would personally even upvote the question."
 
@LaszloPapp moderators are not expected to employ technical knowledge, only site-running knowledge.
 
EXACTLY
as we trust them about that, they REALLY should trust the technical experts of the tags.
working with them, and not against!
 
4:47 AM
You can't trust everyone
 
I will not as I said.
expect upvotes and comments from me from now on, period.
 
I mean, as a mod, you can't trust everyone
 
yeah, I know. I was called a liar who only cares about two reps, by a moderator.
 
as a user, you should still trust mods
@LaszloPapp You were never called a liar
 
I will never trust any mod who does not respect a valuable contributor to a tag, and one that even calls someone a liar and rep-hunter for two (!) rep.
 
4:49 AM
Jon Skeet could flag that question for undeletion and it would still get declined.
 
sorry, I lost my faith there. That was very unworthy.
 
over a single declination? That's unwise, I'm afraid
you are still responsible for any actions of yours. This includes automatic flag throttles, reprecussions for edit wars....
 
it is not a "single declination"
it is about calling me rep-hungry-only for two rep when I usually hit the repcap at weekends, and I help a LOT in the qt tag, and as I said, I am an upstream developer as well as one of the highest scored users by the community... If a moderator can abuse the power to go against that merit without any understanding of the topic in question, without any effort to learn it, without any critic why the question is bad ... I would call that nonworthy, I am sorry about that.
 
Here's the bottom line: unless you have an actual answer that you're willing to post that's more than a simple "you need to have this installed too" we're not interested in undeleting it and letting it sit around collecting more dust. These questions show up on Google and other search results, and people come here expecting to find an answer, only to find an empty question with not so much as an idea posted in the comments as to what the problem is. How is that at all constructive?
 
you can always repost. No need to undelete the original.
 
5:09 AM
@animuson: you are not making any sense IMHO. I do have actually an answer to it, but I already lost my sake to collaborate with you any further after fully disrespecting me without any merit in the field. You have never bothered to explain why it is "dust" either. "It is dust because it is dust". Fantastic... The whole point of keeping them around is that people can find it with google and if they have solutions, they can post it. I am really surprised this is new to you.
 
@LaszloPapp you are complaining about personal attacks yet you keep attacking Animuson personally. Not nice.
 
It's extremely rare that someone with the answer would be searching for a place to post their answer. Usually only spammers do that. Generally only people facing the same problem would be searching for a specific problem.
 
Hey guys. Do you think this should be "protected"?
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Q: What is 'YTowOnt9'?

SherlockOur (PHP) framework sometimes renders hidden inputs with value YTowOnt9. I can't find that string anywhere in the (huge) codebase, and can't figure out where it came from. I decided to Google for that particular string, and the result surprised me. Over half a million - kind of random - hits. I h...

 
@AmalMurali: done
 
shrugs Neither of the two deleted answers would have been prevented by the protection.
 
5:19 AM
I must say I'm with @Laszlo somewhat on this. And he is surely not the type to get worked up over 2 reputation points. Suspecting him of that is kinda insulting.
On the other hand, if a question has seen *zero* activity for a year, that's an *extremely* good argument for deleting it.
 
@Pëkka: that is why I flagged it for further activity, explaining it.
but I gave up already. We lost a potential answer here, and got two frustrated parties. This is not a good outcome.
 
5:34 AM
I don't know. Are you guys discussing about this question?
@LaszloPapp: I was asking if it should be protected. I had protected it before, but someone undid it. (as you can see by looking at the revision history for that question)
 
@AmalMurali No they're not. The two messages directly below your onebox are the only ones directed at you.
The question has not received any "thanks" or "me too" or spam answers, or even answers from new users for that matter, so there's no real need for a protection.
One was a silly joke answer and the other was actually a legitimate attempt at answering that just turned out to be wrong.
 
@AmalMurali: it has very high scores, so it could get thankyou answers, so why not. There is no harm in protecting it since it already has a highly upvoted answer anyway.
so, yes, obviously, I did it because I think it could.
@AmalMurali: it is a bit of judgement call, and I do not see why anyone would have removed your protection. What value has he tried to add?
 
5:49 AM
Yeah, right. I thought the same. But I don't know, maybe Makoto had the same reasoning as @animuson.
 
it already got two silly answers.
why get more?
thankyous are not the only silly answers to protect against.
 
But...
31 mins ago, by animuson
shrugs Neither of the two deleted answers would have been prevented by the protection.
Anyway, protecting it would prevent it from happening in future. That's why I did it.
 
Yes, I am with you on this. Animuson can use his power to remove my protection if he sees value in that.
 
EVIL POWERS!
Hmm, I wonder why my answer got so many downvotes.
 
... people all around taking things personally is my guess.
 
5:55 AM
@LaszloPapp including you
 
What do you mean? Did I offend anyone? :p
 
@JanDvorak: sigh, show me a downvote or comment where I judged a technical post on a personal level as opposed to technical.
@AmalMurali: yes, it is possible. Many people get offended by leaving valid constructive critics on technical posts.
 
@LaszloPapp I mean, you got offended by Animuson's post here.
 
@JanDvorak: yes, that was insulting as thought by Pekka, too.
 
@LaszloPapp keep calm and relax
 
5:58 AM
keep collaborative and less insulting is the reply?
I still have not got any technical reason for being dust other than being dust. I am still awaiting any technical reason.
 
Technical reason: spring cleaning
 
Yeah, right, so you can go around and randomly remove posts under that term....
@JanDvorak: also note that even the flag was declined to get further activity on the question....
and the flag decline did not bother to give any explanation either why the people would be wrong....
 
@LaszloPapp Moderators are not expected to employ technical knowledge about the question topic
 
so why do they think they should override the suggestions by highly ranked users in the topic by the community?
 
@LaszloPapp whom should moderators trust, exactly?
 
6:07 AM
I have no idea whom if not one of the top help-desks in the subject with upstream contribution experience, etc.
 
how are moderators expected to determine if a person is a "top help-desk in the subject with upstream contribution experience, etc."
 
re-read the comment on the flag.
 
@LaszloPapp I've reread the flag text. My response to it would be, "says who?"
 
a liar, I imagine.
 
thus, declined
 
6:10 AM
thanks for calling me a liar, appreciated. I am bailing out.
 
Well, you have called yourself a liar.
 
@LaszloPapp critics? Where do I criticize the question?
 
@AmalMurali: if you never leave critics on others' posts, then I do not know. Maybe revenge from someone whose question you voted on to close? Which post is this in question?
There are plenty of questions on how to find substring... If you need someone to submit correct code - please post name of your school/interviewer and someone will send answer on your behalf. :) — Alexei Levenkov 17 mins ago
heh
 
6:32 AM
@LaszloPapp: I do. But I don't think all the 6 downvotes came from such users.
 
@AmalMurali: as written, can you show the post?
 
Erm? I thought you had seen the answer.
 
You got 6 downvotes for your answer. Can you show your answer?
 
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A: What is 'YTowOnt9'?

Amal Muralikojiro's answer hits the nail right on the head. But I'd like to add some more details that might be useful. What is YTowOnt9? YTowOnt9 is not a magic string nor does it have a special meaning. YTowOnt9 just happens to be a base64-encoded string. See the following to confirm: >>> import base64

@LaszloPapp: It is an answer to the question I linked above.
1 hour ago, by Amal Murali
Hey guys. Do you think this should be "protected"?
^ that one. I should've made that clear :P
 
yeah, it was not obvious to me.
either way, I guess it is due to the comments.
 
6:35 AM
What comments?
 
@AmalMurali I'm fairly certain Base64 encoding is standardized and not platform specific. — FreeAsInBeer yesterday
"you can't pass serialized data through query strings or web forms properly " -- unless you follow the spec for the domain you're working in, such as HTTP, and properly escape your value. Your value can be anything from "serialized data" to numbers or files. Your use of the word "serialized" seems to be overloaded. — maxwellb 5 hours ago
btw, now I somewhat can understand why Makoto may have thought that your protection was a bit strange.
I personally would not protect questions where I have answers, especially if that 1/2. That may look fraud to some (not sure why).
 
Right, it would confuse people who are not really familiar with the site.
 
or anyone having bad faith
 
@LaszloPapp: The downvotes came long before that comment. Someone had commented "kojiro's answer was sufficient". Maybe people think it shouldn't have been posted in the first place.
Hm, I agree, it's not a great answer. There were some questions in the comments unders the other answer and I wanted to add some more information and found it to be too long for a comment, so I added it as an answer.
Maybe I should delete it. Or make it CW.
 
I am not sure... I do not like unexplained downvotes. IMHO, they hold no value and increase the community overhead significantly with lots of posts and demotivation.
 
6:41 AM
Same thing. I always (try to) add a comment when I downvote.
 
I almost always comment or upvote an existing comment.
Given your reputation (15.7k), don't you feel you can be a bit magnanimous and cede this one to Daniel (rep 313)? :) Besides, his was a complete answer for my question: I'd said in the original question that I wanted to make the Node::step() function virtual and require that a subclass implement it. His answer did exactly that. — fearless_fool 50 mins ago
not sure what reputation has to do with judging the selected answer.
 
 
1 hour later…
9:05 AM
would you agree with me making fork and forking synonyms on stack overflow?
 
when was it proposed?
 
Mat
No idea. Says I can't vote on it since I proposed it...
And I don't remember when I did that. Probably a long while ago.
 
I cannot support it due to lack of scores.
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so how to handle that question? Remove one of the tags for now, or?
 
Mat
Hum, suggested on 22/06/2013. One vote since.
Remove a tag or leave it as is. Doesn't really hurt anything. If there's nothing else to edit, I'd leave it alone.
 
9:15 AM
4 scores.... sounds too many.
it is likely to be easier to just retag everything
 
9:35 AM
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woo hoo my CV was faster than Oded
 
at least I can still downvote
 
 
1 hour later…
can we close the question here as duplicate and downvote the answer to oblivion?
1
Q: How good Qt under LGPL for commercial applications?

ThiLeave some thoughts about what are all the positive and negative things to use LGPL Qt for commercial applications.

to have any chance to get it deleted.
or at least 1-2 more downvotes please :)
 
gave my last cv for today. :)
 
I've attempted answering this one but the OP insisted that the problem is not with their code but with Selenium.
@LaszloPapp That happens. :)
 
yeah, I can see your deleted answer.
 
I was not going to let this turn into a session of "Let's debug Selenium together."
 
Wow... people have really been going at it with the downvotes on this one, for reasons that I think have nothing to do with the question itself: stackoverflow.com/questions/22544387/…
It was brought up on meta as a case where the OP was asking for homework help and wanted the user with the accepted answer to help hide their tracks.
I've seen questions that make no damn sense with less downvotes than this.
 
sure
 
@Louis That's meta effect for ya
 
@Bart yeah, I'm aware of the meta effect. I get the impression here though that there's a "-1 for trying to hide to your instructor that you got help here" effect.
 
Yep, that wouldn't surprise me.
 
11:15 AM
(I shall note here that the OP has been dissociated from the question.)
I was actually part of the meta effect this time. If you've not seen the Q&A that led to this, the OP on meta explained that the OP of this question asked that the answer be changed, I started investigating and found the OP of this question defaced all of their questions. I rolled back all of them.
 
-11
Q: Hii Guys.. Wass up?

user3575729Don't delete it. Why do you delete all my questions? <h1>Hello everyone.. Let's chat</h1> echo "Hello Guys and Girls... Wass up?";

 
This one goes for a close vote.
If he does it again I might just fire up my spam button
Or I'll recommend him to take it to SR
 
is a duplicate of a deleted question by the same OP: stackoverflow.com/questions/23303500/…
 
unclear?!
for the 'sup post?
 
here we go...
This question appears to be off-topic because it is a duplicate of a deleted post — Jan Dvorak 20 secs ago
@LaszloPapp any better solution?
 
11:25 AM
@JanDvorak Thanks. I've not gotten into the groove yet for dealing with such cases. It's the 2nd time I run into something like this.
 
@user3575725: you are a good magician to hide the important parts of the code. :) — Laszlo Papp 2 mins ago
Okay, so you still do noyt understand. I WANT TO CREATE A GAME SERVER BASED ON THE TELNET PROTOCOL, I DO NOT WANT TO CREATE REMOTE CONNECTIONS. — sosolal 13 mins ago
 
Who upvoted that wazzup question???
 
LOL, he repeated his off-topic mess with upper case letters :)
@JanDvorak: who found it useful.
let us vote for reopen =)
 
@LaszloPapp which one?
 
'sup
:)
 
11:29 AM
I did @JanDvorak. I mean, he is correct. What is up? What is it really? You might think it's trivial, but you're just not thinking fourth dimensionally
 
Yeehaw, same OP as above but different question: stackoverflow.com/questions/23306630/…
This OP is making a habit of posting code that can't execute.
 
Can you help to get the problem question addressed in this be removed as possible audit candidate?
 
11:45 AM
@rene Yep, that's a classical case of too broad.
I mean the question that was use in the audit, not the meta question.
 
yep, tnx for taking a look...
 
On more close vote and I guess it's bound to no longer show up
 
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Q: Qt QML and 3d: are these two frameworks the same?

OpenLearnerAnyone who has experimented with Qt QML and 3D OpenGL, I am interested in 2 frameworks I've read about, but it is not clear to me if in fact they are the same framework. The most interesting of the two is outlined in this Qt Developer Days 2013 video presentation by Krzysztof Krzewniak: http://w...

how can I align the images in my answer to the center horizontally?
 
Mat
There's no markdown for that. You can attempt centering with &nbsp;s, but that won't work for everyone.
 
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12:02 PM
the OP seems to be asking for off-site resource based on the comments under my answer. I gave up on him.
unfortunately, I do not have close vote to start it.
Let's not mince words, even digia refers to it as a "Qt Scenegraph" : blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2010/05/18/a-qt-scenegraph. I think you know what I am asking, it is fine for you to say that you don't know the answer, but all the exposed QML types like "Camera" etc in that video are present in the presenter's QML library he discusses, so I'm curious where I can get this. — OpenLearner 4 mins ago
 
Hmm, is he aware that a scene graph is just an abstract concept and not a Qt thing?
 
I do not know, but based on his comment, he wants to get that library.
 
... which doesn't exist ...
 
which is basically a resource project by ICS
yeah, I cannot make sense out of this question on Stack Overflow.
 
Yeah, I'm reading it for the 3rd time now to see where things get off track
 
12:06 PM
first he asked about differences, so I tried to explain it.
then he said, it is not what he is looking for, he knows this, he wants to get the library.
this is my understanding.
although, if you ignore his comment, you could consider it as on-topic question.
because the original question for clarification is I think on topic.
 
Yeah, I won't close the question based on his comments. If he adapts the question to it, I'll do so
Interesting answer btw, +1. Really should get back to it at some point. Still at Qt 4.x because legacy. And not doing a whole lot of c++ anyway at the moment.
 
Qt3D should be coming out soon with the new architecture... then you can start developing games, etc :)
 
Hah, for that I'll keep using my dear Unity. But I have some other projects where it might be useful
 
Does Unity run on GNU/Linux these days or just Android?
 
Basically on any platform you can think of
Whether desktop, mobile or console
 
12:18 PM
@Bart: remember the puppet from the other day?
three answers with -1 scores
and higher unselected answers with 5 scores, etc
account staying right above 125?
 
I seem to recall that, yes
 
there is a new answer under my answer
 
ah, there we go
 
one upvote already, very poor answer
that was the guy!
it is very very very suspicious
that is a puppet account
 
Thank you for your contribution. I would like to note that, while not necessarily a problem, you can also answer posts that do not come from OpenLearner. There are plenty of users out there who could use your insights. — Bart 20 secs ago
 
12:21 PM
Ah, that's good to know. I'll look into that, thanks. Very useful info. — OpenLearner 54 secs ago
:D
I also wrote that information.
as part of my answer, but anyhow.
I would call it OpenCheater from now on and pardon me...
 
Anyway, flagged.
Let a mode figure that one out
SHouldn't be too hard
 
Bart, there is one upvote on his comments now under my answer
what a coincidence, Bart.
 
Myeah, flag and move on.
 
LOL that might be because we share the same office. If that makes me suspicious, well, I'm just a suspicious kinda guy! Actually I don't use SO much but whenever he is talking about a conversation on there, I like to check it out. — JXB 19 secs ago
same office on Saturday... maybe :)
 
/me leaves naive comment and chuckles
 
12:25 PM
ok :)
an office mate who stopped at reputation 125 even though the guy has almost 500 questions, meh.
and whose answer with negative scores are preferred over other upvoted, meh.
serial upvoting reversed in JXB's recent history, meh
well, either way, for me the definition of puppet is
the definition is not that one person holds two accounts, but the accounts act like this.
 
Don't really care if it's a sockpuppet or voting ring. The activity is suspicious enough for a flag. And it provides mods with something to pew.
 
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-2 vs. +6
just one of those...
I got some of this happening deleted via delete votes, but yeah... there were more to it. That is how JXB lost the 125 rep... some poor questions, etc, got deleted.
 
\o
 
@Bart: btw, you are dutch, what do you think about TomTom?
 
@TGMCians \o/
 
12:36 PM
hey rene !
 
@LaszloPapp I loved their work on Apple Maps
 
lol
 
@rene: why lol?
you are dutch, too :)
 
Yes, so?
 
so, could you share your opinion about it?
I wonder if their products make sense in the future for instance, because it seems that mobile phones get very smart.
 
12:39 PM
A lot of former colleagues now works for them.
They had a couple of great embedded c++ guys.
 
I don't know a lot about TomTom to be honest. I know they are Dutch, and that they were the technology provider behind the whole Apple Maps fiasco. But that's where my knowledge stops.
 
But they missed the upswing in mobile divices
 
the CEO said something interesting lately...
 
The current model with subscription to live traffic is much better I think...
And I stil believe they have a good high quality delivery of stuff they build their own. The maps issue was somewhat unfortunate I would say
 
the speed report?
 
12:44 PM
@LaszloPapp Dunno: this
 
hmm, ok, there was another huge issue about the speed report...
as far as I know they apologized.
they basically reported the overspeed to the authorities, etc....
 
cool, they help law enforcement. I like that ;-)
 
:D
I think they are leaning towards mobile devices because the CEO claimed (not direct quote) that they would be a very different company in a few years than what they are today.
doing things not having done before, in a new area, etc.
 
It seems like a logical thing to do
 
Yeah
 
12:48 PM
yes
 
They now deliver their devices to car makers for the satnav system
The consumer devices probably stop to exist and instead they deliver software and services as native apps on smartphones.
 
yeah
firing the hardware department :(
or outsourcing.
 
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