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7:00 PM
@ShadowWizard As soon as I figure out how to make a POST request with cookies from JS.
Wait, wrong account.
 
That's better.
 
lol
 
Cool, good luck with that!
 
@Spam Maybe you can teach me write api then :-P salsa
 
7:01 PM
<test to grab cookies>
@DoorknobofSnow Sure, ping me in Charcoal HQ
grrr
whatever :P
 
Lol, salsa? Accidentally swiped over my keyboard :-P
Sorry, can't, have to eat lunch
 
I just got a suspicioous run of question downvotes toward my posts, should I be awaiting a vote fraud reversal?
 
@hexafraction Hey!
 
Hey.
As in, I was hit with 2 or 3 downvotes on questions within a 15 second period.
And those are old questions.
 
7:07 PM
@hexa happened to me once, only 5 or so rep, just ignore it :-P
 
15 seconds on old questions? Too much of a coincidence... Meh.
 
Yeah, system should reverse that @hexafraction. Just wait it out. Should be fine by tomorrow.
Ah, I see it's just two? That might not be reversed.
 
and if not, just forget it. There are far worse cases
 
Meh, it's fine.
 
also, whom have you angered?
 
7:11 PM
Nobody really. I had a bit of a discussion on wording with Jon Skeet but that's something I'd not expect him doing.
 
are you sure? He did get the top rank somehow.
 
Hmm, perhaps?
Aren't raw counts of votes cast by each user public, though?
 
@hexafraction The counts are public, but the votes itself are not.
 
only totals
*themselves
 
Exactly... Nobody wants to be stuck with a count of 4000 downvotes...
Meh, it's fine. It just caught my attention.
 
7:15 PM
@hexafraction why not?
 
A bit questionable, don't you say?
I've got to get going, anyway. Whatever happens, happens.
 
@DoorknobofSnow Your script won't really work for AU since the spammers only post answers there, although it catches the question ones quite nicely.
 
@ɥʇǝS if only I could afford to open every question that gets a bump...
CORS is less of a trouble, but the rate limiting might hurt my efforts
(though, I could load half of the questions from the API, half by scraping)
 
You can wear khaki pants and a polo shirt in business casual, right?
 
7:28 PM
Sure, that should be no problem.
 
@ɥʇǝS Here's what we can do: set up a script to watch the questions/active page on AU. When a new one comes in, we automagically click the button to show it and check if the recent activity link points to an answer. If it does, we check it with the API. We might even batch it into 2-3 answers/API request, that would make it more API friendly.
(cc @JanDvorak)
 
how do you know when to release the batch for a question?
 
@JanDvorak Not sure I'm following you. You can ask for multiple separate answers from the API.
 
@Undo sure, but how long to wait until asking?
 
@JanDvorak Oh, call it thirty seconds tops.
Spam alert: We've accidently made the AU chat spammer aware that we're onto him. He's moved on to other sites in the network. Please watch Drupal Answers chat especially.
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^ Could people please star that?
 
7:40 PM
@Undo What do you mean, "accidentally made ... aware"?
 
@JanDvorak No, but you could filter new answers with the API perhaps.
@Pops The Nazi/Hitler/Osama guy has been making accounts on AU and joining/leaving/joining chat and basically being annoying. He's figured out we're watching him and started creating his accounts on Drupal so we can't delete him.
 
I'm guessing this is the one? drupal.stackexchange.com/users/25859/user3250405 cc @Pops
 
yeah'
 
Just a wild guess. Don't know what tipped me off
 
the gravatar maybe?
 
7:43 PM
hmm, might be
Btw, how can he get into chat when creating new accounts? How does he get the rep? Or don't those rooms have a 20rep requirement?
 
@Bart IIRC you can still join/leave rooms even without 15 rep.
 
You can always join chat, you just can't talk until you get 20 rep
 
So then what's the problem? The (gr)avatar appearing?
 
@Bart Pretty much, yeah.
 
Okay.
 
7:46 PM
@Bart He used to name himself "Adolf Hitler" or "Osama Bin Laden" then go into Judaism/German rooms
and join, then leave, then join, then leave
 
Classy
 
and basically just offend everyone that can be offended.
@Undo that would work, but it would be pretty complicated.
(didn't see your message till now)
 
8:06 PM
Is it wrong to abuse mod privilege and add a ?
 
Not if you always combine it with
 
forgot all about the unicorns! (sort of, my post actually already contains the line "sacrifice a unicorn" so ..)
 
8:26 PM
I'm only reviewing items in the close vote queue that are asking for libraries that were asked years ago. Did someone ran a cleanup script?
On the pros side: it handles rather quickly...
 
Someone who hates library questions has been working those.
 
Obviously, anyway they have my close vote!
 
Some of those shouldn't go away, if they have a good collection of answers. Good knowledge shouldn't be destroyed.
 
Better to protect them once closed, I agree some of them should NOT be on their way to deletion
 
@Undo Wow, AU's going to be pretty spam free.
@ShadowWizard Yep, no email though. :P
Hmm, no @Oded super-ping to make him aware of me getting into dev.SO. :P
 
8:38 PM
@hichris123 you'd be surprised ;)
 
I'd call that a "you don't get how this works" for now @JanDvorak
 
so, VLQ I guess
 
9:16 PM
Mwuahaha now I'm the #2 moderator for flag handling this month. >:D
 
@animuson GIVE ME YOUR DIAMONDZ... AND FLAG HANDLING POWERS. :P
 
@animuson wait... there are stats about that?
 
Hmmm, wonder who made that possible...
 
I mean... really?
 
@Braiam Yeah, why?
 
9:18 PM
@Braiam Yes, we get detailed stats about how many flags we handle for the day, week, month, quarter, and all-time - it also outlines what kinds of actions we took during that period.
 
Doesn't know what happens when you reach #1
 
What do I win?
 
Again, let me handle flags. :P
 
@animuson the chance to clean up 111 more
 
Oh my, someone went on a migration flagging spree. o.o
 
9:21 PM
status-declined
@animuson Here's a question to close: stackoverflow.com/questions/322585/…. It'll help pump up your stats. :P
 
ahh, it's a treasure trove
It's a bit sad that such questions aren't allowed nowadays.
 
@yi_H Why do you say that?
 
what's your question? don't you agree?
well, in short, some questions deserve feedback(answers) from the whole community, like this one... to get all the good ideas.
 
9:36 PM
Nah, I mean it's kinda to each his own. And a list question, which Stack Exchange in general discourages.
Hmm, what other dev sites can I find a way into? :P
 
I'm home
the spam-detector-izer-er seems to have performed quite nicely :D
I think I'll need to work on detecting answers soon, but I don't know how I'll do that... :/
hmmm... I wonder if there's a chance that I can reverse-engineer StackExchange.realtime...
 
hichri: I don't know how to interpret what you just wrote.
I know it's discouraged, I also said this, with different words...
 
@Doorknob Suggestion: don't multi-post a question if it matches multiple filters.
 
@hichris123 maybe, but I want to work on answer detection first
and multiple filter posting is somewhat useful, although maybe it could be all collapsed into one message
 
@DoorknobofSnow Yeah, that's what I would suggest.
@yi_H I'm not quite sure what you mean either...
 
anyone know how to change a JS function before it is executed? (I'm trying to reverse-engineer realtime :P)
 
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A: What is the T-SQL equivalent of MySQL syntax LIMIT x, y?

Darren DaviesUse the TOP keyword: SELECT TOP 5 pretiz FROM tableApoint WHERE price = '$newprice' Using LIMIT 5, 10 is not part of the SQL Standard and is only available in MySQL. You could use ROW_NUMBER() for SQL as a temp solution and will get you the same desired output. SELECT * FROM ( SELECT *...

Possibly?
 
maybe Firebug
 
@DoorknobofSnow do you know stackhose
 
@DoorknobofSnow That I don't know. :P
 
9:48 PM
@rene oooh, nice, I'm looking at it...
 
I picked this answer from it that is flagged by me...maybe Animuson can handle that one...
 
awesome, it's licensed under WTFPL so I can use it :D
 
I need people to help me hack into more stuff... :(
 
I can't use NOW() in Data SE? Pffft
 
I know an Indian group of hackers I could introduce you to @hichris123 ...
 
9:50 PM
@Bart Not quite what I'm looking for... dev tier SE stuff. :P
 
@animuson I'll help you on your war against Illegal use of <kbd> tags. :P
 
But it returned 99 results I've already seen and 1 new one...
I guess I should order them...
 
hmmm, I wonder how SE's web sockets work
maybe I could use those
 
10:13 PM
wait, this was not an audit?
 
Edit clash @JanDvorak
 
maybe, but what does "I've you've seen" mean?
 
Ask the OP. That's what he wrote in the fist revision
 
Yay results!
 
I've just seen a question get unanimously reopened in the review queue. Should I reinforce my "leave closed" vote with a close vote?
 
10:21 PM
If you feel it should be closed, why not.
Link?
 
-10
Q: Regex to match integers, decimals and fractions

boruchsiperI'm looking for a regular expression that can match integers, decimals and fractions from a string: Here are some examples 11.325 x 55.65 11x13 11”x13” 11” x 13” 11 3/8 x 15 7/8 11 3/8” x 15 7/8“ Explanation of above examples: Two decimals Two integers Two integers with quote to represen...

 
It's always been so interesting to me that I can see when mods are talking in mod-only rooms, just by the updates of "last talked" in their chat profile. Annoying though, since I'm trying to track some guys down who only talk in mod-rooms apparently.
 
Sigh ... I don't know what to do with those Regex ones any more. I used to vote to close, but apparently their community (as illustrated here once again) thinks they are just fine.
 
@HodofHod Why are you trying to track them down?
 
@hichris123 Got a Q or two for Geoff and/or Kasra.
Regarding the app, of course.
 
10:25 PM
@Bart You want to help me get into a site?
@HodofHod Just ping them here.
 
@Bart I leave them open if they are well-specced and show some effort
 
I'm sure these users are irritated that I'm filling up their inbox with "Your post was edited" notifications...
 
Yeah, his last comment got my close vote @JanDvorak. He's just looking for others to do his work for him.
 
Heh. I want to see your editing stats today, @animuson. :P
 
@hichris123 what are you trying to get me involved in?
 
10:28 PM
@Bart Nothing. :P You want to help?
 
At least no one has complained on meta yet
 
@Bart yeah... faill
 
Not ... sure ... @hichris123
 
@Bart Please?
 
should this have been approved?
 
10:31 PM
Tell me @hichris123
 
@hichris123 Neither have been here recently enough for autocomplete, and chat search seems to be on the fritz, so I can't find any of their old posts. Or they've never been here.
 
@JanDvorak I'm not sure about those edits...
 
Why do you need my help there @hichris123?
 
10:32 PM
@JanDvorak certainly not :/
 
I'm going to say a comment so it gets starred and shows up on the right
 
@HodofHod You should still be able to ping them, just manually type it in.
 
@JanDvorak Nope. Even though I think it's non-critical.
 
@Bart Um, find a way to login?
 
so, I think I'm just going to end up using the API
for question and answer spam detection
 
10:32 PM
@DoorknobofSnow It might be correct, but the the edit comment just plain sucks.
 
@hichris123 Nope. Won't work like that. You can only ping if they've been here and talked recently.
 
@JanDvorak nah, should have been rejected as invalid edit
 
Otherwise you need to reply to a specific message or superping.
 
@DoorknobofSnow not every code edit in an answer is bad
 
@JanDvorak but this one should have been a comment, since it changed what the code does
 
10:34 PM
>>! while ( ( ! succeed = try() ) );
 
@HodofHod Depends how recently. Autocomplete only is for a day or so, but you can still ping them for a few days, maybe even a week. (of activity)
 
okay, so I'm going to make a Ruby script or something that continually queries the API and posts here when it detects spam.
maybe once every 20 seconds or so.
 
now there's an edit to revert the edit I've posted
and it was approved unanimously
 
Ooh, that's a question... maybe it should be rejected @Jan. I thought it was an answer...
 
10:36 PM
sudo approveEdit
 
at least they weren't the same people
@hichris123 oh. Then definitely reject
 
@DoorknobofSnow Watch out: API guidelines say you can only make identical calls (say, to /questions) once a minute.
 
(and approve the revert)
@michaelb958 because they're cached anyways
 
My life's motto is
if(notAwesome())
{
notAwesome().stop()
beAwesome();
}
 
@michaelb958 It only says that because results are cached. I can just, say, subtract one from pagesize every other call
 
10:38 PM
> Not allowed
:(
 
or something like that
 
I'm just copying quotes from online :)
 
because a response time of 1 minute to spam is too long :/
 
@hichris123 Interesting, I did not know that, thanks! I see balpha has a post on this, conveniently, on meta.scifi.
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A: What are the rules for when chat messages appear in a user's inbox?

balphaTo use you as an example: @TonyMeyer, i.e. an exact match will cause a notification if you've been in the room in the past seven days. @Tony, i.e. a first name match (to be precise, a word boundary match) will cause a notification if you've been in the room in the past two days. @Ton will notif...

 
Most good programmers do programming not because they expect to get paid or get adulation by the public, but because it is fun to program.
 
10:40 PM
@HodofHod I was trying to find that post! Makes sense why I didn't find it now... :P
 
@HodofHod ah, thanks, I actually have been wondering about that for quite a while :P
[SE-spam-detector-izer-er] Allcaps title: math.stackexchange.com/questions/656578/… (APPLICATION OF DIFFERENTIATION : RELATED RATE)
@DoorknobofSnow Thanks
 
Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live
 
@ManofSnow That's actually the case for me
 
That should be an
 
And I'm the guy maintaining my code
 
10:43 PM
@Bart Your program is too hard to use, I'm going to kill you now.
 
@HodofHod You should flag it (as other)
 
If debugging is the process of removing software bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.
 
I'm not sure. The mods have said time and again (and again and again) that site metas are valid places for such questions. I don't think anyone would be willing to migrate that.
 
There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult.
 
hmm, then just post a meta :P
 
10:44 PM
Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight.
 
anyone know if you can batch sites in the API?
 
@ManofSnow You must love Dijkstra
 
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
 
i.e. get newest answers from SO, SU, and SF?
 
@Bart Come on, you haven't helped me with my thingy yet. :P brings out nonexistent mod hammer again
 
10:45 PM
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg.
 
Smiting stick trumps mod hammer
 
@hichris123 I'll help; what thingy? :P
 
When debugging, novices insert corrective code; experts remove defective code.
@hichris123 I'll help, because I like helping
 
@Bart Have to think about that.
Okay, you people find a way into here: localsede.stackexchange.com/account/login?returnurl=/space
 
Computer science education cannot make anybody an expert programmer any more than studying brushes and pigment can make somebody an expert painter.
 
10:46 PM
One result set of 63 down. :)
 
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
 
@hichris123 lol, have no idea how
you got into dev, right?
 
@DoorknobofSnow Yeah, that's the problem...
 
use the same method to get in there :P
 
@hichris123 I can try
 
10:46 PM
@DoorknobofSnow It doesn't work the same way.
 
@hichris123 you still haven't told me how you got into dev :O
 
I just get Not allowed.
 
lol
well, you aren't
 
You didn't say please @hichris123. That's why it's not allowed.
 
@DoorknobofSnow Still not telling you. :P
 
10:47 PM
fine :P
 
18 mins ago, by hichris123
@Bart Please?
I said please to you. :P
 
@hichris123 Tell me how to get into dev, I need more meta rep
 
@hichris123 let me in! :P
 
@ManofSnow just answer Meta questions with freehand red circles and unicorns. That's how I got most of mine.
 
10:49 PM
@DoorknobofSnow Nah, he's asleep even. And I am not a room owner. :(
 
@Bart I'm talking about being a dev to fix site issues and posting answer
 
@ManofSnow Oh, dev is just basically a playground for the devs. :P
 
@hichris123 How does one become a dev?
 
@ManofSnow You apply for the job. Or they ask you.
 
@hichris123 Where does one apply for the dev job
Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
 
10:51 PM
lol, what is he talking about? (too lazy to unignore, check, and ignore again :P)
 
Good code is its own best documentation. As you’re about to add a comment, ask yourself, ‘How can I improve the code so that this comment isn’t needed?
The problem with using C++ … is that there’s already a strong tendency in the language to require you to know everything before you can do anything.
 
People think that computer science is the art of geniuses but the actual reality is the opposite, just many people doing things that build on each other, like a wall of mini stones.
 
after I finish this homework stuff I'm going to work on the spam-detector thingy for questions and answers
 
@Bart Nvm, I don't think it's legal considering I'm 13
 
10:52 PM
If I knew Japanease my job would be this job: hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/…. :P
 
Given that you can work remote, nobody needs to know :p
 
@DoorknobofSnow What is this homework? Is it the stuff I put in my work machine?
 
@hichris123 Learn Japanese just for that job! :P
 
@hichris123 Wear a full english translator device
 
@DoorknobofSnow Too young. :(
 
10:54 PM
:P
 
Does nobody star chat messages anymore? :P
One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code.
 
Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves.
Before software can be reusable it first has to be usable.
 
@JanDvorak My reject. :P
 
@hichris123 kudos
 
10:55 PM
@JanDvorak :P I am unable to reject or approve forever since I have 1337 suggested edit reviews and must stay at 1337 :P
 
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along wound destroy civilization.
 
@DoorknobofSnow Go to 2014. :P
 
but it's so tempting... just one review...
 
I remember seeing a question like this: Why isn't my if-loop and else-loop working?
 
@hichris123 lol, after that only one review per year allowed
 
10:56 PM
Yep. no more reviews for you!
 
If one thousand monkeys are given one thousand typewriters and enough time, one of them will eventually write the complete works of Shakespeare. Or the source code of an operating system. In fact, that is how Windows Vista came to be.
 
@JanDvorak ...and the rest will write Perl programs. :D
 

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