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11:02 AM

I have the script from Jan running in a separate session. Once it notifies I copy the url and flag and if the chat transcript doesn't have a link yet I post a message

SPArchaeologist

@rene - I suspect it is time for reinstalling firefox.

Doorknob of Snow

Allcaps title: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14058/… (LO VE VASHIKARAN SPECIALIST+91-9829810409)

SPAM - Bad keyword: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14058/… (LO VE VASHIKARAN SPECIALIST+91-9829810409)

Jan Dvorak

@DoorknobofSnow hey! it's the same post twice!

Bart

Pff, someone should teach him markdown. That's not a numbered list.

Nice try with the "lo ve" though

rene

There is a lot that needs to be improved @Bart and @JanDvorak

That account is also using the same username I saw before

SPArchaeologist

11:18 AM

and he still remember me of a character in a comic film some time ago. "Are you pita? Don't tell me you are haka"

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14060/… (BLACK.. MAGIC.. SPECIALIST+91-9829810409 VASHIKARAN SPECIALIST)

Allcaps title: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14060/… (BLACK.. MAGIC.. SPECIALIST+91-9829810409 VASHIKARAN SPECIALIST)

rene

Heh magento.stackexchange.com/users/4992

Nuke the account magento.stackexchange.com/users/4995/user4995

Tim Post

I am invigorated by the absence of Hitler in this room.

Shadow Wizard

Hello Tim Post!

3ventic

Google does a surprisingly good job at translating the latest blog post

Duncan

11:25 AM

@TimPost Little known fact - @ShadowWizard is actually Hitler and writes his chat posts from deep in South America at the grand old age of 124.

Shadow Wizard

Hello Duncan!

3ventic

Hitler is probably just misunderstood

Shadow Wizard

@Duncan now that you know my greatest secret...

SPArchaeologist

speaking of which... how did the yesterday genius end? ban until 2058?

Shadow Wizard

Ban until DateTime.MaxValue

Tim Post

11:32 AM

Anyone German?

jokerdino

Yes, Hitler.

SPArchaeologist

................

Shadow Wizard

Oh my. 31/12/9999 23:59:59

10000 going to have tons of bugs

SPArchaeologist

nope, we should move to federation dates much before that.

Tim Post

I'm going to go pretend my mouse is a phaser for a while, and get some coffee.

Shadow Wizard

11:39 AM

Coffee is out, Big America is in

SPArchaeologist

@TimPost if you have a stapler nearby it works better as a phaser

Tim Post

Meh, I have more cow in my wallet than those pansy buns.

@SPArchaeologist The problem is I get carried away in the world of make believe, and want to avoid a perforated finger.

Shadow Wizard

Hello OGHaza!

OGHaza

YO!

SPArchaeologist

@TimPost - that is the precise reason they hide all the box cutters we had in the office. My last attempt to kill the SharePoint server with an Omnislash.

OGHaza

11:44 AM

Just been 3 suggested single tag edits adding [google-api] tag. Previously there were no questions with the tag, should it exist? or be nipped in the bud? [adsense] has 600+ questions on the other hand

[adsense-api] tag sorry

Shadow Wizard

Hello hichris123!

rene

@OGHaza I've seen a post on that....

Shadow Wizard

Hello Braiam!

Jan Dvorak

> Why start with Portuguese?

> [Translator's note: Because Portuguese is the best language, Brazil is the best country and Jay can not read what we write ;)]

rene

@OGHaza this? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/210920/cleaning-up-google-tags

hichris123

11:49 AM

@ShadowWizard Hi!

Shadow Wizard

@hichris123 how are you?

hichris123

9 hours ago, by hichris123

@Oded I got in dev.SO... :P

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5961/… (JYOTISH=Vashikaran specialist babaji+91-9636595333)

Shadow Wizard

@hichris123 you mean this? dev.stackoverflow.com/users/login?returnurl=%2f

OGHaza

@rene, though not explicitly stated that post suggests [google-api][adsense] is probably the way to go

hichris123

11:52 AM

@ShadowWizard Yep.

The thingy that usually makes you stay on one page until you finally give up.

OGHaza

@rene, wait never mind I was interpretting the list the opposite way of how I should have been

hichris123

@Doorknob Having the spam thingy up all night was good.

Shadow Wizard

Poor Doorknob is flooded with messages lol

rene

Hmmm, @OGHaza this would tell a different story meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/68948/drop-api-sdk-in-tags

Shadow Wizard

> To log in, you must have received an invitation email. Click the invitation link in the email to log in!

So you logged in?!

Doorknob of Snow

11:59 AM

SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5962/… (09636595333– Black magic |- specialist baba)

Shadow Wizard

Careers also got a dev zone, cool dev.careers.stackoverflow.com/beta-access?returnurl=

rene

take note of the gravator on that spam post

Shadow Wizard

@rene yup, that's a Swastika

rene

how braindead do you need to be to use that...sick...

OGHaza

@rene, pft I'm gonna go ahead and remove them, none of the questions are new and there all 0 score and very low views. If the tag for adsense needs changing it's going to take more than 3 edits of bad questions.

Shadow Wizard

12:03 PM

@rene no, I don't think he's using it like the late Adolf

SPArchaeologist

@rene - image blocked by the browser tracklist.

Shadow Wizard

this is actually symbol of luck in its origin

SPArchaeologist

but... does the cross look mirrored?

@ShadowWizard you beat me on it

Shadow Wizard

it survived for thousands of years, too bad one single person destroyed it like that

SPArchaeologist

actually, the pokemon card game had to edit a card because the original image had that symbol in the background.

Shadow Wizard

12:05 PM

Anyway it's still being used, innocently, especially in India it appears

oh a bug

wikipedia link

Maybe now it will be oneboxed?

rene

That is the problem with powerfull symbols, once they are misused it's origins are disrespected as well

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist well, for most people that symbol is offensive and they don't care that it was valid symbol before

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5963/… (FASt vashikaran mantra +919636595333)

Shadow Wizard

7 flags remaining

@rene yep, that's really too bad

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard - would you believe me if I told you that in my country there is a specific religious event where they carry some offering to the temple while wearing a white pointy cap on the face?

thanks to that group of xenophobe that shall remain unnamed, I now can't see that event without thinking to them.

Shadow Wizard

12:12 PM

Yes, I believe but it's a shame small groups can ruin things like that

rene

Does any one have an IE11 running now?

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5964/… (MK***samohan mantra 09636595333 vashikaran mantra++)

3ventic

@rene no but I can launch it

SPArchaeologist

yep, I have. Please don't laugh at me

Bart

It's fun to see this spammer try alternatives at the moment

rene

12:14 PM

can you hit stackoverlow.com/tags and try to find a tag?

SPArchaeologist

ok

rene

autocomplete is broken for me

SPArchaeologist

OVERLOW?

and it actually exist?

rene

sorry

SPArchaeologist

some hacker, please nuke that site

rene

12:15 PM

stackoverflow.com/tags

3ventic

Any particular tag?

rene

no just type in the find tag box

3ventic

Something odd supposed to happen?

rene

Type to find tags

SPArchaeologist

@rene don't worry - it is just funny to discover that stackoverlow.com exists

3ventic

12:16 PM

Seems to work just fine apart from being slower than Chrome

rene

yeah, nothing should happen

SPArchaeologist

seems to work.

3ventic

Works fine here

rene

hmmm, my IE11 is broken..

in that case

Shadow Wizard

Hello Shadow of the Shadow!

Shadow of the Shadow

12:18 PM

lol

hello master

Anyway @rene it's working fine for me too

3ventic

@rene OS might make a difference too

Bart

^^^^ this is getting rather sad

Shadow of the Shadow

(I use IE11 for stuff like this)

Shadow Wizard

@Bart no worry, I won't leave it open for long

Bart

You can talk to us @ShadowWizard. That's no problem. ;)

rene

12:20 PM

win7/x64 have this in the console: SCRIPT5022:SecurityError File: full.en.js, Line: 16, Column: 4

3ventic

I would use IE if more extensions supported it

SPArchaeologist

only two extension I miss on ie

grease

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5965/… (~most~ powerful vashikaran mantra +for+ love +91-96365-95333~)

SPArchaeologist

and the "Shot the site" one

3ventic

Oh and the lack of full html5 youtube is keeping me back too

SPArchaeologist

12:21 PM

the second is REALLY good when used on SP central admin site

Shadow Wizard

@rene have you disabled cookies by any chance?

7

Q: Login to Stack Overflow impossible on Firefox

I wanted to login to stackoverflow.com with my newly created Stack Exchange account. Unfortunately, it's not possible with Firefox on Mac OSX, because the four buttons on the login page below "Do you already have an account on one of these sites? Click the logo to log in with it here:" are not wo...

Not really the same, but same error so who knows

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: ham.stackexchange.com/questions/1339/… (all love problem solution baba ji+91 9694850756)

rene

this breaks currently for me: ,o="WebSocket"in window?new WebSocket(b):new MozWebSocket(b) No, I've no cookies disabled. I'm logged in here as well in the same session

Bart

Yay, a new account. Didn't have on on ham just yet

rene

Username is seen before chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/89?m=1748882#1748882

Shadow Wizard

12:25 PM

@rene well, display names are not unique

SPArchaeologist

someone should call him and ask to send a curse to "that spammer that is pestering stackoverflow these days" :P

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Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/41322/… (09694850756 love specialist baba)

SPAM - Bad keyword: biology.stackexchange.com/questions/14704/… (love marriage specialist baba+91 9694850756)

Shadow Wizard

Think I found him

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM - Bad keyword: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5966/… (D/a/y/a/va/an Love vashikaran specialist babaji+91-9636595333)

SPAM - Bad keyword: photo.stackexchange.com/questions/47396/… (job problem solution baba ji +91 9694850756)

SPArchaeologist

I would love to know how he selects the sites to post on

Bart

12:33 PM

Does he ever try on the larger sites?

jokerdino

he does come up on Ask Ubuntu. But I don't know if you would consider that a large site

Bart

Yeah, that's the 3rd site in terms of users.

Shadow Wizard

@Bart I saw him with account on Stack Overflow few days ago in the beginning, but in there such spam is nuked so fast he realized quickly it's pointless

On the smaller sites his spam can survive hours

Bart

Yeah, that's probably why he keeps to some lower-traffic sites

Shadow Wizard

Where's @TimPost by the way?

Doorknob of Snow

12:37 PM

Allcaps title: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/5967/… (%%ASTROLOGYBABA09636595333 LOVE PROBLEM SOLUTION)

Bart

Ooh @DoorknobofSnow ^^^ not caught as spam.

Shadow Wizard

Hello gnat!

Duncan

I wonder how much traffic this drives to him.

gnat

hello, any hot questions to complain about?

Shadow Wizard

@gnat nope, not today

I have a new idea for helpful bot

@Duncan probably zero or very close to zero, but don't forget Google rank

Braiam

1:03 PM

O_O

jokerdino

link?

Bart

Wait, what?

jokerdino

@braiam is that the one from our spam room?

Shadow Wizard

Oh, so Stack Exchange has upset hacker group >-<

so much for love baba guru

Braiam

from here askubuntu.com/a/412489/36315

jokerdino

1:05 PM

"something else we can't say here" lol

Shadow Wizard

By the way

tantrik baba

1

Bart

is that the correct link @Braiam?

Braiam

only 10k

jokerdino

@Bart Yes. It's been deleted.

Bart

Ah, that's why. Okay. Weird though.

rene

1:08 PM

So Ubuntu is not something hackers like. I guess they like Windows8 instead.

Bart

Pff, Ask Patents is slow ... patents.stackexchange.com/users/7767/user4991?tab=summary

Shadow Wizard

Oh, see what I found

SPArchaeologist

ok.

Shadow Wizard

in watch on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jan 10 at 22:25, by Stack Exchange

Stack2RSS Custom Feed: "ntpd unable to bind to wildcard address 0.0.0.0 - another process may be running"

posted on January 10, 2014

we are the Indian Team hackers. Want to inform you that we aren't doing nothing on your site because we're preparing to DDOS askubuntu.com with many botnets. Zero day here? Well, we don't care anymore being mods because this site is really broken. But if you listen to us, meaning secure your site, strengthen the mods and remove the bugs we won't do nothing then. We run a bot and a script scanni…

> But if you listen to us, meaning secure your site, strengthen the mods and remove the bugs we won't do nothing then

So they have a grand and noble goal

jokerdino

They did want to become mods at some point of time.

SPArchaeologist

1:12 PM

@ShadowWizard I will create the user "Chef Tony" and start posting spam about Miracle Blade knifes

Chef Tony

"Chef" Tony Notaro (born November 5, 1954) is an advertising pitchman for cooking and kitchen products, seen primarily on infomercials and home shopping channels. He was born Anthony Joseph Notaro in Brooklyn, New York to first generation Italian-Americans. His informal chef training includes working in his grandmother's Southern Italian restaurant in lower Manhattan. His father sold fresh produce from a horse and wagon and his mother ran a home-based Italian catering business. At age 16, Notaro began developing his own culinary products after school in a neighborhood pizzeria. At age 1...

rene

Phew, that releases the already building stress

Braiam

0

Q: Allow flagging an account for SPAM/offensive if no post are associated with the user

In the same vein as our recent SPAM/trolls wave, apparently they noticed that we can't destroy user accounts just by flagging and we need to post in chat to get the users knocked, so I'm proposing that if no post was created by the user, allow users to flag the user "About Me" as SPAM/offensive (...

feature-request spam

Shadow Wizard

@jokerdino oh, so this explains a lot

Bart

@jokerdino seems I've missed a whole lot of fun there.

Doorknob of Snow

@JanDvorak lol, I'll work on that

@ShadowWizard Thank you ;)

@Bart oh noes the spammer is getting smarter

Shadow Wizard

1:16 PM

@DoorknobofSnow looks like it's not a spammer but hacker group

jokerdino

Shadow Wizard

see recent posts in chat

Doorknob of Snow

@jokerdino ahahahaha :D

SPArchaeologist

@Bart now we have a candidate for the hacker badge

Jan Dvorak

Time to sit on the realtime tab myself more often, I guess

Shadow Wizard

1:16 PM

Hello sudo rm -rf Telkitty!

Bart

@SPArchaeologist I somehow am not too worried about that one.

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard wait, our bot isn't allowed to greet users before they speak

user202362

@ShadowWizard hiyo

Doorknob of Snow

I have to go to school soon, but I'll keep an eye on the realtime tab to see if I can add any more filters

Shadow Wizard

Yes it is, I double checked

22

A: What should be the limits for chat bots interacting with regular users?

Call me naive, but... Why do we need special rules for bots? The rules for humans are pretty straightforward - in particular, the rules of etiquette boil down to, "don't annoy other people". If a chat-bot is annoying people (by posting lots of noisy messages or - just as an example - graphic vi...

Jan Dvorak

1:18 PM

Since when? We were told it's not.

SPArchaeologist

@Bart - wait, I am busy searching my Vendetta mask.

Shadow Wizard

bottom line there is: a chat-bot shouldn't allow you to do anything you couldn't do by yourself, with your own account

Doorknob of Snow

I should make my bot count how many spams it's detected like @Undo's Charcoal :P

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard well, we were told that not even a person should greet users before they speak

they could be scared away

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak where? missed that part :(

Bart

1:19 PM

What kind of whimpy-*ss users are those @JanDvorak?

Jan Dvorak

answer #3

6

A: What should be the limits for chat bots interacting with regular users?

A chat bot must never initiate conversation with an unsuspecting user. When a user joins a chatroom, the expectation is to chat with humans, not to be assaulted by a bot. If the bot takes the initiative, it isn't interaction, it's spam. Interaction with a bot must be opt-in. It's fine for a chat...

+13/-7

jokerdino

That was after ChatBotJohn was suspended in Root Access, wasn't it?

Jan Dvorak

correct

Shadow Wizard

@Jan tat's not official response and not even highliy voted

With all due respect to that user, I listen to shog :)

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard so, may our bot start greeting people again?

We were told by a diamond moderator to stop

Shadow Wizard

1:21 PM

@JanDvorak note that I don't ping, just mention by name.

And don't post extra stuff like picture, rep etc

And... it's the tavern

This will likely be more frowned upon in other rooms

But that spam hunter bot can also greet people if you ask me

Jan Dvorak

Our bot only sends a simple (but longish) message, not any picture. If it's the ping that counts...

Our bot only posts images when asked to

Doorknob of Snow

okay, so my currents stats are: 21 "bad keyword" spam detected, 0 false positives. 3 "no spaces in title" spam detected, 3 false positives. 5 allcaps title detected, N/A false positives.

Shadow Wizard

Yeah, ping also cause a sound and everything so more intrusive

Doorknob of Snow

I think I might just remove the no spaces in title check.

Shadow Wizard

Why "N/A" and not 0?!

Doorknob of Snow

1:24 PM

because you can't have a false positive allcaps title :P

Shadow Wizard

oh

So why show it at all?

;)

Doorknob of Snow

consistency? :P

I wonder if they're trying to "hack" Stack Exchange right now... lol

Shadow Wizard

Consistency killed the kitten :D

@DoorknobofSnow no doubt they're trying, using secreet tools

Jan Dvorak

I've once sent > 1 request / sec to SE, and I've been cut off

this means that a DDoS isn't going to happen

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak oh yes it can happen, they're using botnets

so different requests from different IP addresses

The code has no way to know those aren't 1000 different valid people

Just posting in the same second

Hello Undo!

SPArchaeologist

1:30 PM

there is another reason the attack will not happen.

to perform an attack to a structure like Stack you need a brain.

Braiam

heh, SE is under constant DDoS from normal users already

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist never underestimate your enemies

Honestly, from what I see this is a serious matter and serious attack

And the worst is still ahead of us

Jan Dvorak

I haven't noticed any slowdown

Shadow Wizard

Oh, telkitty left :(

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard mah. Spamming magic ads on a TECH BOARD?

Shadow Wizard

1:32 PM

@SPArchaeologist that's just a test

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard Maybe you scared him away?

Shadow Wizard

Let's imagine what will happen when 5000 different accounts are created and posting in the same instant

SPArchaeologist

if it was a test I would have used --different-- ads

Shadow Wizard

I think that's their goal

SPArchaeologist

so that it could seem that the spam are unrelated to eachother

Shadow Wizard

1:33 PM

@JanDvorak it's "her" and no, it's not so easy so scare the Queen of Trolls away ;)

Maybe "bored her away" though

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard ungh. I don't have that many spam flags.

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak yup, even @animuson won't be able to handle 5000 with his ubber scripts :D

Bart

If you're planning an attack though, announcing it, and taking some time to test the waters might not be the best approach @ShadowWizard. People are aware ...

jokerdino

What scripts does he have? /me wants

Shadow Wizard

@Bart they claim they want Stack Exchange to enhance its security

So they give us a "fair chance". LOL

Jan Dvorak

1:36 PM

@ShadowWizard then they should file a bug instead

Bart

Ha, well, they've selected the right site then I guess @ShadowWizard. The Devs here seem generally very receptive when it comes to security concerns.

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard "make me a mod I said. U just gona get hacked" != fair chance

that reminded me more of a teenager attempting a bluff

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist nah, dunno if that's really them. as for bluff, well, they can create many spam accounts and bypass spam filters. That's more than most spammers so far.

rene

What is in it for them? Only prestige?

Shadow Wizard

@rene yup, this and maybe they got offended by the nature of Stack Overflow e.g. downvoting one of their (legit, no spam) questions

Doorknob of Snow

1:40 PM

Allcaps title: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14078/… ([[GET LOVE BACK]] +91-9829810409 LOST LOVE SPELL)

SPAM - Bad keyword: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/14078/… ([[GET LOVE BACK]] +91-9829810409 LOST LOVE SPELL)

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard I suspect that if I start using tor, ip filters would start to fall behind me too.

Jan Dvorak

@DoorknobofSnow flagged, thanks

Braiam

@DoorknobofSnow that one was already flagged

rene

flagged

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist yeah but it's more than that... me thinks

Undo

1:42 PM

I'm very very close to making my server-side implementation of @DoorknobofSnow's thing a reality.

(meaning I'm going to start posting stuff in here with it :P)

Shadow Wizard

Better create new account for such bot then, @Undo at least in my opinion

Undo

@ShadowWizard I have one, IIRC

Lemme see if animuson nuked him.

Neal Evans

21 1

discussion scope specific-question

What should the name be?

Shadow Wizard

SpamHunter1337 if you ask me :D

Undo

rofl

ok

Shadow Wizard

Assuming it will mainly hunt spam, if you have other uses for it better find other name :)

Cool, also mention it's a bot somewhere in the profile to prevent confusion and people freaking out ;)

Doorknob of Snow

1:50 PM

maybe I should make an account for my bot too

Undo

there

I wonder if he can chat...

Shadow Wizard

Hello SpamHunter1337!

SpamHunter1337

Yay 20 rep is enough!

Doorknob of Snow

:D

Bart

Let's downvote that answer ...

Undo

1:51 PM

Nooooooooo!!!

BAD BART!

Bart

MUAHAHAHAHAHA

SpamHunter1337

Yay fkey!

SPArchaeologist

ops, my finger just slipped on the upvote button @Bart

Bart

/me flags user as suspicious and ask for merge with main account

See, it's a good thing I'm not a mod

SPArchaeologist

@bart and after the merge we then discover that the account got merged with baba one :P

SpamHunter1337

1:55 PM

rofl

Shadow Wizard

@SpamHunter1337 so you say the 21 is by chance?!

I was sure you aimed for it

Bart

dundundun.net @SPArchaeologist

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow What's the str part supposed to be in if (r[str](n, qTitle)) {?

Shadow Wizard

anyway, we have a serial plagiarist on Meta

Abin Simon, Thrissur, India

5 1

design discussion internet-explorer post-ban stackoverflow support

Both his answers are exact copy and paste of others, without any attribution

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo r is an object with string keys and function values, so r[str] is the function to test against. (sorry for terrible var names I lost the un-minified version :()

Shadow Wizard

1:57 PM

@DoorknobofSnow how can you lose code? no backup? no versioning system?

Doorknob of Snow

@ShadowWizard nope, not when I just quickly threw it together that one day when all the footbal spam came :O

but now I do; github.com/OddLlama/SE-spam-detector-izer-er

Braiam

@DoorknobofSnow you can save another char if you use r.str(n, qTitle) isntead no?

Doorknob of Snow

@Braiam there's no str property on r...

and I'm not trying to save chars :P

Shadow Wizard