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1:36 AM
anyone else having problems with the login form in stackoverflow?
 
I haven't had to log in in a while, so I'm not sure. What's the issue?
 
There's an error in the javascript, the page just doesn't show the login form
Node cannot be inserted at the specified point in the hierarchy" code: "3'
 
Woot. Moved my /home to a new partition. \o/
 
The weird thing is that no other site I tried to visit has the same problem...
 
@FlávioAmieiro Ah, yep. I'm able to reproduce that.
 
1:41 AM
(other site in the stackexchange network, that is)
@TimStone hum. Guess I'll have to wait for a fiz then...
 
You might want to write up a bug report on Meta
 
Just did that...
@TimStone thanks
I think I clicked 'log out everywhere' today when I left work, so now I just can't login...
 
Yeah, it looks like the problem is just that the form that's supposed to be there, well, isn't.
Probably a template issue or something.
 
Yeah, and probably an easy fix...
So, since I can't use SO to procrastinate now, studying it is
 
Well, that's not a bad alternative I suppose. Happy studying!
 
1:57 AM
Yeah, its not bad at all. I'm starting to read about algorithms ( amazon.com/Algorithms-Sanjoy-Dasgupta/dp/0073523402/… )
 
Where should I go to ask about a new feature being added to SE sites?
 
You should post a question on Meta, though if you're requesting a feature there's a relatively high probability someone's asked for it before, so be sure to search just in case.
 
I've done a quick search, but not sure... I'm looking to have a feature where as that poster of an answer I can turn off comments (that is, not allow comments on my answer)
 
Hmm
 
I'm looking for the feature in response to meta.parenting.stackexchange.com/questions/183/…
 
2:12 AM
Ah ha. Well, I can't think of a duplicate where that's already been requested, so it might not have been. I have a feeling it won't be very well received, but if you request it I guess we'll see.
 
I just don
I just don't see another option if discussions are not permitted in comments :( I can never respond to a negative or questioning comment for fear of it being deleted
 
Yeah, it's hard for me to comment on that since I didn't see what the comments were originally, and I don't know what that site's policy on comments are. Granted, discussions in comments are generally discouraged, but if they're relevant to the answer then I don't take issue with that up to a point personally.
As far as chat is concerned, you're free to make a separate room for that particular discussion, though I can see why you might not want to have to go to that kind of trouble. You can certainly make chat work for long-term conversations, but I don't think it's necessarily so convenient that it's appropriate for every case certainly.
I think that the Maths site has a tendency to attract relatively long comment threads in a manner they find acceptable, so you may want to see if you can find out if they defined their comment policy somewhere and point to that on your site's meta, I suppose in the topic you linked to earlier.
 
thanks
 
@FlávioAmieiro, we fixed the login page, procrastinate away! (; (though really, study!)
 
Fixed, unbroke, same thing, heheh ;)
 
2:26 AM
details schmetails
 
2:36 AM
checks tag nesting
 
meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/95437/… well, lets see what happens :) Thanks again for the help Tim
 
Yeah, (: I've been trying to come up with a synonym for "form" that starts with "n". I had started saying "naughty nested..." in another room, but then I got stuck.
 
Ah, yeah, so that was right.
Hahah
@Justin808 Aye nods
 
@RebeccaChernoff nisus might be the closest thing, but I doubt that is what you wanted to convey...
 
How come @NickCraver wasn't able to reproduce it? Did the jQuery know his intentions so well it just bent to his will? ;)
 
2:43 AM
guess so!
 
Naughty nested nodes of iNput. coughs
shakes fist at Chrome
 
well, my cat just died.
sorry, "hello".
 
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that :/
 
thanks. poor little guy.
pouring lots of love into my remaining cat right now
 
How old was your cat?
 
2:52 AM
about 14.
kidney failure, the vet thinks.
 
3:51 AM
Ok, this is where Linux fails
I really want a simple question answered: I want to load GRUB instead of going straight to linux
what do I press?
 
Press any key to pause
@MichaelPetrotta aw, deepest condolences.
 
I think if you've configured GRUB to have no delays you're going to have to either boot a livecd or boot to your distro and change the config
 
@Chacha102 I believe it's either shift or esc if the timeout is set to 0, otherwise pressing anything should bring it up.
 
I don't get it...
I've installed Ubuntu fresh about 100 times today
I think it might have worked flawlessly once
isn't this an operating system that is designed to be easy to use, work almost everywhere, and work out-of-the-box?
 
it doesn't have to install grub tho
are you sure grub is installed?
 
4:03 AM
yes
 
I've never had any problems out of installing Ubuntu, but I started after 6.10
 
I've wiped my entire drive like 5 times today
 
Why?
You're giving us the end of the narrative and not the important middle part
 
So I started out trying to instal it on my 640 GB drive with all my documents and stuff in a partition
the Master Boot Record got messed up and just didn't work
so I think .. hmmm ... Why not try my 250 GB
Because there isn't anything on it, it can have completely control and do whatever the heck it wants
so I have it run on the 250
because the 250 was a slave and stuff, I had some problems
I finally unplugged my 640, made the 250 a master, and installed and it worked
then I tried install Gnome 3
bad idea
nothing worked, so now I'm back trying to get Ubuntu to work..
so now I installed Ubuntu again
let it wipe the entire drive again
no complexities or anything
and it fails to even boot up
 
why didn't you just uninstall gnome3?
 
4:07 AM
@jcolebrand It upgraded all of the libraries unity uses
 
> obviously flickr doesn't know anything about the internets
@Chacha102 that doesn't seem like a problem that can't be fixed
So anyways
the livecd doesn't help you fix the problem?
 
I've looked up all sorts of stuff, none of it helped
Right now I'm just trying to reinstall Ubuntu and get it to launch
 
so then use the livecd to reformat the disk
 
I did
 
then use the livecd to install it to the newly reformatted disk
 
4:10 AM
Well I click 'Install' and then 'Erase everything and install'
 
@Chacha102 so reformat it first
it's on the system menu
 
I'm halfway through another install, so I'm gonna try that first
I really hope they put some polish on Unity
it is a nice system, but it is just too much like a beach shack
no preferences, not well thought out
took me forever to figure out how to add more desktops
plus nVidia doesn't like my third monitor
yet it is still better than Vista...
Yes
it booted
 
Everything is better than Vista, except Windows ME
And considering most people here never used Windows ME that's not saying much
 
I figure if I go with the classic I can use Compiz to mod up as much as I want
plus I can always switch
the only part of unity I really like is the search
I might switch back just because of it..
I graduate tomorrow. Yay...
 
4:37 AM
I believe I'm gone for the night.
 
good night
 
good night @jcolebrand
 
4:54 AM
@Hogan I'm not sure what your point is. My earlier story about that restaurant was the exceptional case; I almost always contribute to what the article calls "the proportion of Groupon customers who are already their customers." If these companies want to make bad decisions, I don't mind getting some tasty food for cheap before everyone involved goes out of business.
I'm not saying you're wrong; I just don't understand what it has to do with what I said.
 
lol my account has been suspended for no reason.
Hello,

I'm writing in reference to your Stack Overflow account:

http://stackoverflow.com/users/514945/manjotsingh

Due to obvious signs of falsified accounts being used to artificially inflate your reputation, your account has been temporarily suspended for 14 days.

It is not fair to other users of Stack Overflow to allow users to gain reputation through sockpuppets.

The offending accounts have been removed and the votes invalidated. Please refrain from this behavior in the future.

Regards,
what should I do now.I am trying to improve and again suspension.
 
seems like sock puppets. heh.
 
Now I've not been made any sock puppet account
I am editing and answering questions and rep is increasing by 2 after editing each question +15 for answering after accepting my answer
Is there any issue in improving formatting?
This account is temporarily suspended for voting irregularities. The suspension period ends on Jun 30 at 14:5
 
no.
 
I was thinking my suspension will be over on 24 jun and now wait for Jun 30
 
5:07 AM
Due to obvious signs of falsified accounts being used to artificially inflate your reputation
 
what is this?
What is the proof?
It should be valid reason.When I am not increasing my reputation.It has been increasing after editing and answering the question.So, what is my fault in it?
There must be some misunderstanding.
I accept I did mistakes but now I am rectifying my mistakes and trying to improve and following rules and regulations.
 
if you feel that you've been unfairly suspended raise it in Meta.
 
after raising a question what will happen?
No one is going to support me
Rather people will start downvoting the question.
 
nothing like that.
 
@ManjotSingh, read the last line of the email you received.
 
5:20 AM
don't post saying YOU GUYZ SUSPENDED ME YOU SUCK!!!
 
I am disappointed with the system :(
 
What does that last line say?
 
@RebeccaChernoff The offending accounts have been removed and the votes invalidated. Please refrain from this behavior in the future.
But why now when I am not doing anything wrong.
 
Not that last line, the other last line.
the very last line
at the very, very bottom
 
I accept I did wrong but now I am trying to improve and following rules trying to write complete sentences and I am not misbehaving with anyone you can check transcript
Regards,
Nick Craver
Stack Overflow moderator
 
5:23 AM
...below that
 
Are you talking about signature?
 
wonders
 
this is the link you can check.
 
blah, I was talking about the email.
 
You can ask anyone in this room did I dis-respect any one
 
5:25 AM
anyways, whatever. If you feel it was in error, reply on that page.
 
What will happen I know no one will accept it
 
@ManjotSingh, you were suspended for behavior on the site. Not on the chat. What good would looking at chat transcripts do? They are not relevant.
 
But why did they punished me when I am not wrong?
You are also moderator,You can also check why did they suspend my account?
 
isn't that obvious why?
 
That information is in the email you received. I do not need to check anything else.
 
5:28 AM
But it should be explanatory that why did they suspend me and what is the proof?
 
anyways, so y'all don't think I'm crazy, in the email version that goes to the users, the footer says "Do not reply directly to this email; if you feel this message is incorrect, please respond on Stack Overflow here." That's what I was referring to.
 
I'm regular user, I don't know the details. Nick, Rebecca are SEI employees. Also, they don't do suspensions just for the heck of it. They have the records. Arguing about it in here makes no sense - ask for details on the message page than here.
 
@ManjotSingh, the explanatory reason you were suspended is as follows:
 
heh we believe you :p
 
Due to obvious signs of falsified accounts being used to artificially inflate your reputation, your account has been temporarily suspended for 14 days.

It is not fair to other users of Stack Overflow to allow users to gain reputation through sockpuppets.

The offending accounts have been removed and the votes invalidated. Please refrain from this behavior in the future
 
5:29 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Can we believe the footer says that and still think you're crazy? ;)
 
Ok,I was not getting you I'll reply them rather but there would one chance to reply and after that I can not reply anymore
 
which you have already pasted in this room.
@TimStone no, sorry, that is not an available option. q:
 
But the reason is invalid.
 
we disagree.
 
Oh, well then.
 
5:31 AM
Why? When I am saying I am trying to improve and you can check as a moderator.
 
@ManjotSingh This is really not the place to be discussing this. If you feel it is in error, reply to the message. Explain why it is incorrect.
 
@RebeccaChernoff then where could I discuss about this issue?
 
@ManjotSingh > Arguing about it in here makes no sense - ask for details on the message page than here.
 
In other news:
@spolsky It's awesome being able to pass on new things that I've *just* learned: http://t.co/2PPndX7 http://t.co/LBTfYvL #StackExchange
 
and I don't have any proof.
 
5:33 AM
(Well it's premature since the answers weren't accepted yet, but I'm confident, so.)
 
How would I prove that I am correct.
 
I'm having some serious problems with chat over on chat.stackexchange.com.
@RebeccaChernoff: -----^
Some messages are getting double-posted...
...and I can't even get into the teacher's room.
 
hmm seems you are not the only one
 
It just freezes at the "Loading" stage.
@Sathya You too?
 
I had that earlier for a bit but it stopped
 
5:36 AM
@GeorgeEdison not me, @JourneyManGeek in Root Access
 
Weird...
 
hmm, scratch that, can repro again
 
interesting, on chat.stackoverflow.com it is the same
 
Oh, it seems that I'm having issues too, which I didn't even notice. That makes it infinitely more unacceptable.
/events seems to be taking too long to respond, hmm.
 
Server troubles, perhaps?
What do I know?
 
YOU
5:39 AM
sometimes responses too slow from here too.
 
wishes someone would just push the 'reset' button on all of the servers to see what fun ensues.
 
what browser are y'all on?
 
Chrome 11.0.696.71.
 
Chrome ( 12.0.742.100 )
 
Chrome 12 is stable now...?
 
5:42 AM
yes.
 
12.0.742.91 (87961)
 
I can get into chat.so fine with Firefox, but not Chrome.
 
How come I'm not getting updated...
 
I can get into chat.SO fine with Chrome, so.
Good morning Marc.. :D
 
YOU
5:44 AM
heh, me Chrome 13 dev :P
 
brave man
 
YOU
ah nope, its 14 :P
 
Thank you Gimp plugin registry for emailing me my password IN PLAIN TEXT!!!
 
They didn't, did they? Gah. :/
 
I went to register a shiny new plugin... and the thanks I get is poor security practice :(
 
5:47 AM
@GeorgeEdison, see you should be using paint. I don't think MS Paint has plugins. :p
 
It doesn't. It also doesn't load WebP images :P
 
oy, a Mac user that recommends using MS Paint :D
 
@RebeccaChernoff I replied to email.
 
@ManjotSingh #facepalm.
 
@Sathya for what?
 
5:49 AM
@octavianDamiean :p anything over GIMP. Except Seashore (which drains my color over time.)
 
Also, @slhck's Super User blog post is on hacker news
 
@Moshe you kidding right?
21 mins ago, by Rebecca Chernoff
anyways, so y'all don't think I'm crazy, in the email version that goes to the users, the footer says "Do not reply directly to this email; if you feel this message is incorrect, please respond on Stack Overflow here." That's what I was referring to.
you read that right?
 
@Octavian halfway. I never like GIMP much because I never learned to use it. I use photoshop and its layer styles
 
@Moshe just fyi, you can do pretty much everything with Gimp as well ;)
 
But Seashore is broken.
 
I am aware. There are also n times as many panels and tools for simple tasks.
Also, good news.
 
@OctavianDamiean o_O I was not knowing and I didn't understand what she wrote may be my english is weak.
 
Now that I know how to use Core Data (yes, I said it again, I can use Core Data!) I can get userscripts functionally working. When I have time.
 
@Sathya what you wrote I didn't see?
 
same as @Octavian.
 
5:54 AM
@GeorgeEdison got an iThing with a touch screen? Prepare to prep freehand circles for mobile!
 
Now what will happen I replied that mail?
 
a unicorn will die
hope you're happy
 
@Octavian be nice :p.
Well, I'm up way too late and I only have 45 rep to show for it. Go upvote my core data answers so I can sleep well. :-D
(kidding)
 
6:10 AM
6
A: Chat hanging during load.

Marc GravellIt looks like we started getting some database timeouts starting about 4 hours ago. Both the usual suspects were asleep at this time, so it wasn't something we actively changed. My working theory is squirrels in the data-centre. We've sent our crack team of squirrel hunters to chase the rodents....

awesome, just what I was thinking. :D
 
Personally I suspect the squirrels and hamsters have gotten involved in a bloodily epic gang war.
 
@OctavianDamiean but why will unicorn die?
 
Obviously they killed the hamsters that were powering the data center
 
Exactly.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:19 AM
caught any squirrels yet?
 
is @TimStone here?
 
yeah, @TimStone is the squirrel
 
Uh oh
 
hmm... no
 
7:22 AM
I think I'll start running now :P
 
tis too late q:
 
already forgot where you are? You are in the tavern, you'll come back anyway :P
 
@TimStone what in the world are you doing on chat.SE?
 
he is gone I think
ran away
 
7:26 AM
Er, Marc?
But hrm, that's disconcerting.
 
that is called active hellbanning
they accuse you of something, make you feel bad and then they don't talk to you anymore :D
 
oh, we're talking
Marc wants to talk in secret
no idea why
 
snicker
-1
Q: I have an error in some code

Richard BrightwellI have an error message which I'm not posting here in some code I'm not posting here. Please guess my question and Google the answer for me.

 
7:45 AM
Can someone who is willing to share their IP with me please, for the love of my sanity, help me figure out why firefox is displaying a site with the wrong font sizes ,when chrome and everything else I tried works perfectly?
 
you theoretically already have my ip q:
 
@TimPost Sure
 
well, you definitely can get it, but I meant more because I was reading your blog earlier. q:
 
The domain is noc3270.com
@RebeccaChernoff Thanks for reading :) Hope you enjoyed it.
 
Firefox 3.6 or 4, or either/or?
 
7:46 AM
@TimStone both
 
@TimPost hehe. I have a google news alert thingadongdong that it came up in.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm not the best writer in the world, but I try to post useful stuff
@TimStone I have a 301 redirect in place for maintenance mode, I need an IP to let you see the site
@TimStone done
Chome / everything else working fine ... I don't get it
 
Oh, that's rather small isn't it? :P
Hmm
 
@TimStone I don't know why, I used absolute sizes for margins and fonts
 
lolwut? Firefox has decided to add <sup> elements everywhere.
2
It's your header.
You have a <sup> that should be </sup>
 
7:53 AM
careful @TimPost, @TimStone's been a bad, bad boy with servers tonight q:
 
Coincidentally after "SQUIRREL!!"
 
@TimStone I got that far, but I can't figure out .. wait a sec
 
That's unbelievably uncanny.
 
@TimStone I could just be snowblind, that's where I've been looking
 
I have absolutely no idea why Firefox decides to not just close the tag, and instead adds new tags everywhere though.
But that would be the issue.
 
7:54 AM
@TimStone you, sir, are awesome. Thank you.
 
Not a problem :)
@RebeccaChernoff Lies! Kind of.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I accidentally formatted a 12 TB file system today, @TimStone has nothing on this chaos monkey!
 
@RebeccaChernoff Strange, that's what I said.
 
Ouch, that sucks. :/
 
7:57 AM
no doubt q:
 
for i in [ AWW S*** ... is the summary
 
Hi Tim Post
How are you?
 
The killer was ... the issue wasn't in what I typed, it was a bug I committed six months ago to a custom shell
 

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