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12:54 AM

The telegraph is a respected UK news source, yes? telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8566281/…

1:12 AM

I posted a question on gaming and it gas disappeared sans trace. Any ideas? It was prolly deleted, but there was a comment which I want to grab a link from.

jcolebrand

ask a mod on gaming.se for help

there aren't any gaming.se mods on the modchat

Yi Jiang

1:42 AM

Silly season

The silly season is the period lasting for a few summer months typified by the emergence of frivolous news stories in the media. This term was known by the end of the 19th century and listed in the second edition of Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable and remains in use at the start of the 21st century. The fifteenth edition of Brewer's expands on the second, defining the silly season as "the part of the year when Parliament and the Law Courts are not sitting (about August and September)". In Australia and New Zealand, the silly season has come to refer to the Christmas/New Year festive...

jcolebrand

ha ha

Moshe

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Q: Where did my bad question go? I need a link from the comments.

I asked a question about "Why pokemon is popular". Granted, it's a tearily subjective question and probably terrible altogether, but in the comments, someone posted a useful pair of links. I understand why the question migt have been deleted, but can I please get the links posted here? Even bette...

Whoops.

@badp - please have a look if you don't mind.

Chacha102

2:04 AM

Hello

Moshe

3:11 AM

Hello

Chacha102

Hi

Yi Jiang

I've built a form where if you enter something that is obviously malicious, the form will redirect you to nyan.cat

Tim Stone

Hahahah. :D

Yi Jiang

Oh look, Adobe Kuler's got it's own wallpaper set.

Chacha102

@YiJiang What is Adobe Kuler?

Yi Jiang

3:20 AM

@Chacha102 kuler.adobe.com

Color tool, built on Flash

Tim Stone

1

Q: how many characters in \n JAVA?

just a quick question. I wonder how many characters count for \n (new line ) in JAVA? Because I need to fit 160 chars in one String,etc. So.. How many chars should I consider for \n when appending to my StringBuffer? Thanks

java

gives Singapore -1

Yi Jiang

@TimStone If that's the case I have no idea how many -1s have I given the United States ;)

Tim Stone

Hah :P

jleedev

Yi Jiang

@jleedev That's not real, right? Eh...

jleedev

3:27 AM

@YiJiang I wish it were.

Yi Jiang

3:49 AM

WTF is this?

-6

Q: hello i have stand alone with randomly malformed people

hello i have seen formations of ufo's and you can even think I see this face through in the smallest illuminator i ever seen in - - Mulder's FBI::Human::Memory -- Plugin: My::Eye$ version 1/29. (.MMHE29) Backup Wizard One-Time - v.0.0.7.4 -- Yexs' the'F our takes owner|hip. If you...

winapi kernel agent

Tim Stone

I have no idea. o_o

Trufa

@jleedev damn, that would make a cool Easter egg!

Yi Jiang

4:11 AM

Currently debugging for IE6 in wine. Just... kill me already

ManjotSingh

5:26 AM

Good Morning

ManjotSingh

6:36 AM

Hi Octavian

How are you?

Octavian Damiean

sleepy

ManjotSingh

Its 8:39 only

My advice to take small nap :)

Octavian Damiean

nah, time to get up :)

ManjotSingh

Ok,then get up have some breakfast to feel better :)

Sathya

> Due to technical reasons, North Indian food Supplier is unable to service us

wonderful.

ManjotSingh

6:41 AM

Is it so?

What is the technical reason?

Sathya

no clue

ManjotSingh

I was in Karnatka for 4 years there I didn't find good North Indian food :(

Sathya

if you didn't find North Indian food in the whole of Karnataka state then you didn't venture out.

ManjotSingh

look at my edited message :)

Sathya

> if you didn't find good North Indian food in the whole of Karnataka state then you didn't venture out.

ManjotSingh

6:45 AM

there was a North Indian food but not as delicious as in North

but I like South Indian food also

Near Hyderabad Railway Station there was a restaurant where I used to have dosa and idli

I had Upma first time there

Sathya

Just cast my 6000th vote on Super User. Happens to be a downvote + closed the question.

ManjotSingh

which question?

Sathya

-2

Q: WD Live Tv Hub doesnt see large files

Feel free to vote to close if this is too specialised, but my problem is as follows: I Recently got a WD live tv hub and its been working fine. However it doesn't seem to be able to "see" my HD movies which are all 3gb+ large. The movies are same container/video/audio codecs as other videos (~1...

hdtv wdtv

ManjotSingh

why did person mention "Feel free to vote to close if this is too specialised " He might know that this question would close

How was your Barcamp Sathya?

flickr.com/photos/sathyabhat/5820545944/in/photostream

Sathya

Barcamp was good, great fun, great sessions, great discussions

ManjotSingh

6:55 AM

Is this you in Hat?

Sathya

nope.

ManjotSingh

Ok.Are you SAP developer?

Sathya

nope. The venue was SAP Labs.

ManjotSingh

Ok and the topic was on?

Sathya

there's no specific topics in barcamp. Anyone is free to talk on anything. Take a post-it, write your session details, stick it on the paper wiki

ManjotSingh

7:01 AM

Great

But all would in manage way.

like there would be many users want to talk on many topics

who handle Barcamps ?

Sathya

the planners

ManjotSingh

I can also arrange Barcamp at my place?

How much all cost would be?

anyone can participate or there some fees or what exactly things go?

Sathya

yeah, you can.

ManjotSingh

but at my place I am not aware of such types of Barcamps.

Sathya

cost depends. You aren't suppose to collect any fees, generally. the barcamp wiki covers all details.

barcamp.org/w/page/404135/OrganizeALocalBarCamp

barcamp.org/w/page/402984/FrontPage

Yi Jiang

7:56 AM

So Mr. Community now protects questions too?

badp's sockpuppet

Community is Jeff's sockpuppet, so it's hardly surprising!

Yi Jiang

8:30 AM

Sathya

@YiJiang it's been doing so for the few weeks, atleast.

Yi Jiang

So, eh, that's 221mb stuck in the gc-heap, eh, Firefox...

ManjotSingh

9:18 AM

Hello

How are you Tim?

Moshe

12:48 PM

Morning.

ManjotSingh

here is 6:20 pm anyways Good morning there :)

How are you?

Moshe

Thank Gd, good.

You?

ManjotSingh

Best :)

Moshe

Good.

ManjotSingh

Have you work with Blackberry app development?

Moshe

12:54 PM

No. I have not. My friend has.

ManjotSingh

Actually I was thinking that there is touch in some mobiles but there are many mobile where touch is not there.

So how would I manage the coding.

Moshe

Right. Only some blackberry devices have touch.

Same as anything else, conditional code.

ManjotSingh

So, I have coded for gesture in iPhone and Android

Moshe

Ok...

ManjotSingh

Now wants to implement the touch in Blackberry

Moshe

12:57 PM

Ok... I don't know java, and I don't know blackberry development. But:

I assume that, like iPhone, there is a way to check the device's hardware.

ManjotSingh

me too dont know but for servival I have to do

Api's of blackberry development is quite tough

You know want blackberry dont have tab bar inbuilt

means I am making views via buttons

or there is tool bar now I am trying with it.

Moshe

I see.

You mentioned it last week.

hmm

Best of luck.

thank you :)

1:07 PM

@YiJiang Isn't the problem with the 800mb allocated but not freed? The heap is 1/4 of that. This is clearly an memory leak bug.

@YiJang Also, the most common reason you would have a heap overflow is the same as the most common reason you would have a stackoverflow -- poorly designed recursion.

jcolebrand

2:52 PM

sometimes sense, people have none ... stackoverflow.com/questions/6331776/…

Hogan

3:45 PM

@jcolebrand Just think of how amazing type checking modern design patterns are. Can you imagine the HELL these programmers would have created if the system was not forcing them to wonder why they can't "just grab it from the global."

jcolebrand

@Hogan I imagine they often do and get confused when they can't...

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS EFFING CRUD? (Notice I calmed myself down long enough to post)

Why would you REMOVE exception handling or for that matter rethrow it when you could do something about it? Or at least log it?

Hogan

4:08 PM

The compiler forced the programmer to put in the catch block... in this way it will compile without warnings.

jcolebrand

No, not true

Additionally, in my organization, you don't throw a caught error without logging it first.

Hogan

Sounds like a programmer was asleep that day.

would this be better? try { ..stuff.. } catch(Exception e) { throw e; }

jcolebrand

that's what he had before

You're missing something here:

We have a set of rules in-house that say "don't do that"

Hogan

no... he did not have the "e" on the throw.

which means the compiler was complaining e was not used.

jcolebrand

Additionally, removing code just to make the compiler shut up is code-smell

Hogan

4:13 PM

The whole thing is smelly :)

jcolebrand

I concur

I also didn't care for how he checked the date ranges, but alas, not my code to implement.

If it were up to me I would send him back to schooling on how to check the most recent day against three target ranges, instead he's loading all of the dates sent into a hashtable and then checking the entire hashtable to see if the date exists, for a range of dates ... omg, it's just horrid nastiness. But for now, it should work.

But yes, I'm clawing my eyes out not rewriting it from the ground up

Hogan

4:26 PM

Ah... the add in 3 extra steps anti-pattern.

jcolebrand

No, the "if you had to do a try-catch you better expect the exception and handle it or you better log it so when it finally does throw somebody else can trace it down to why it failed rather than get a silent exception" (which happens all too often in the old code-base) pattern

@Hogan I feel like that's a much better pattern anyways. If you don't know what exception will get thrown, then don't just upchuck it and kill all the stacktrace.

Octavian Damiean

4:42 PM

just bought a nice WP theme from themeforest, I can't be arsed to create my own :(

jcolebrand

I've got one too many silver badges and the bronze badges are just way off for that to be perfect, but it's a good approximation ;)

Yi Jiang

We bought the cheapest 32" LCD TV in the local electronics store, for 2200 RMB, or US$339. How does that compare with prices in the States and elsewhere?

Tim Stone

4:58 PM

Hmm, I think it's about the same if you are looking to go as cheap as possible.

jcolebrand

Can you provide any more specs?

lines of resolution, brand anything like that?

And we are only considering retail pricing, yes?

To tell the truth, bestbuy.com or walmart.com should let you look up reasonably similar models and show you the in-store prices.

Yi Jiang

Retail pricing, yes. Resolution is HD but not Full HD, which is common for 32" I believe

Rebecca Chernoff

you can get that in a good brand, 1080p for same price here

jcolebrand

So it's 720 then

walmart.com/ip/Viore-32-HDTV/10803780 $330

I would say you didn't overpay by much, if at all.

Tim Stone

> GIFTING NOTE:This item ships in the manufacturer's original packaging. If intended as a gift, the packaging may reveal the contents

Hah

Rebecca Chernoff

5:02 PM

costco.com/Browse/…

Tim Stone

Heh, I bought my Vizio from Costco.

Rebecca Chernoff

me too (:

Tim Stone

Woah, it's already 1?

jcolebrand

@TimStone indeed sir

Yi Jiang

Brand is Panda, which is an old Chinese brand that somehow still afloat. Has the usual HDMI, etc. and can play a pretty wide range of stuff off the USB port

Tim Stone

5:04 PM

I am very confused how that happened, although it does explain why I'm starving..

jcolebrand

@RebeccaChernoff technically that's a $400 tv

technically

@TimStone I have the same problem. Hence I am now going to go find food

and with that in mind, I'm going to close my browser and do so

Rebecca Chernoff

when there is more often than not a discount coupon on it, it isn't. >_< hrmph.

Yi Jiang

Could've been cheaper if bought online, but my parents don't trust online retailers

Rebecca Chernoff

Also if I walk into a store, and give them $350, then it is a $350 tv. (:

Tim Stone

5:19 PM

I made...something. I dunno. It's left over steak chopped up with cheese and hotsauce in a wrap. :P

jcolebrand

6:39 PM

@TimStone sounds better than what I had.

@TimStone Reheated pasta (the last of it) with chunks of sausage in a red sauce (something store bought, go ahead @RebeccaChernoff lay into me for being lazy :p ) and some sammiches.

Rebecca Chernoff

!

Tim Stone

I killed the cow that made my steaks with my bare hands, shame on you!

Doesn't sound too bad, though.

jcolebrand

Oh yeah. And the sausage is like Hillshire farms or whatnot, and I cut them into lengths about 5/8-3/4" long so big ole hunks of sausage, really let the flavor seep out into your mouth

jcolebrand

6:57 PM

> “I think that it’s probably wrong, in almost all situations, to use a dictionary in the courtroom,” said Jesse Sheidlower , the editor at large of the Oxford English Dictionary. “Dictionary definitions are written with a lot of things in mind, but rigorously circumscribing the exact meanings and connotations of terms is not usually one of them.”

Things that make you say "wuuuuh"

Aiden Bell

I see even SO developers are not immune from coding their own blog engine

jcolebrand

I'm ... pretty sure that the OED is an authoritative and rigorously circumscribe collection of precisely what the meanings of words are...

Tim Stone

Ah, 'ello there @AidenBell, long time no see. :D

jcolebrand

@AidenBell I thought you knew ... coding your own blog engine is like an absolute requirement

Tim Stone

@jcolebrand I think he's right, you need to supplement it with UrbanDictionary.

jcolebrand

7:00 PM

@TimStone but of course

This article is so full of FUD it's not even funny

> The justices have cited more than 120 dictionaries

> In a 1995 concurrence, for instance, Justice Clarence Thomas looked to dictionaries from 1773, 1789 and 1796 to determine what the framers of the Constitution meant by “commerce,” a question now in play in the challenges to the recent health care law.

Aiden Bell

@TimStone - hello good sir

jcolebrand

That's exactly the reason we have dictionaries, and from the period no less.

That's why we have the LoC ffs

Aiden Bell

@TimStone I got lost in RFCs and Python for a while

jcolebrand

I must say, I didn't realize every news story was written for the purest concepts of upholding FUD amongst all it's readers.

Tim Stone

Good times? :P

Aiden Bell

7:01 PM

ASCIIful but good times

Tim Stone

nods

Moshe

Hey folks

Tim Stone

@jcolebrand Heh:

> A 1988 survey of the lexicographic staffs of five publishers concluded that “the ‘polite press,’ with The New York Times at its pinnacle” is “the single most powerful influence in constituting the record of the English lexicon.”

They only wrote the article to include that quote. ;)

jcolebrand

@TimStone yeah, I know ...

I believe so sir ;)

Moshe

Just blasted 45 minutes on a video game. Refreshing.

Time to work now.

jcolebrand

7:03 PM

@AidenBell praytell did you accomplish that which you had set out to do?

Aiden Bell

Bollock dagger

The bollock dagger or ballock knife is a type of dagger with a distinctively shaped shaft, with two oval swellings at the guard resembling male genitalia ("bollocks"). The guard is often in one piece with the wooden grip, and reinforced on top with a shaped metal washer. The dagger was popular in Flanders, England and Scotland between the 13th and 18th centuries, and in particular the Tudor period. It was commonly carried by many Border Reivers, as a backup for the lance and the sword. A large number of such weapons were found aboard the wreck of the Mary Rose. In use, the bollock dagger...

Well I never

Tim Stone

Who would have guessed?

Aiden Bell

@jcolebrand - From-scratch OAuth 1.0a and 2.0 middleware for WSGI ... soft of

jcolebrand

@AidenBell oh ouch

Aiden Bell

@jcolebrand - don't know what everyone was moaning about with 1.0a's implementation difficulty

jcolebrand

7:05 PM

@AidenBell I believe it was the inconsistent application of the complete standard?

Also, reboots for updates. ffs Windows, learn!

Aiden Bell

@TimStone - the pedia says, "to be bollocked or get a bollocking" stems from the knife

Michael Mrozek

balpha.de/2011/06/a-shout-out-to-the-people-of-meta

> In real life, I'm commonly known as Ben

Well that's just unnatural

Hogan

@AidenBell If you are really old school then the requirement is you wrote a CMS and not a blogging engine.

jcolebrand

@Hogan what's the difference?

Hogan

errr

jcolebrand

7:19 PM

You're welcome

Hogan

One manages content and the other manages blogs?

The name?

Something like that.

(In seriousness, I think a CMS is designed to allow for more than one "editor".)

jcolebrand

So is a blog

a blog engine should be a platform, not a one person website

Does it bug anyone else that the edit icon on SE2.0 is taller than the textline, thus creating an extra tall line on the last line of a comment if the comment is edited? Or is that just me?

Michael Mrozek

@jcolebrand I'm practically inconsolable

jcolebrand

@MichaelMrozek I could tell Michael ... I could tell. Come over here and sit down and have a tissue and tell me all about it. And have some waffles.

Hogan

@jcolebrand I won't bother to argue but I believe Wikipedia backs up my claims (esp. after I edit it.)

@jcolebrand Yes I did notice this and yes it did bother me.

jcolebrand

7:31 PM

@Hogan that's a very valid and thought provoking point. Very salient as well.

Shall we @jin and ask him about it?

Hogan

@jcolebrand This could work, of if you post a mso question with a hand drawn circle I will quickly upvote it.

jcolebrand

My good sir! I would NEVER!

Besides, I'm sure there's already a post on meta about it

If there's not, @MichaelMrozek would be happy to put one. ;) :p

Hogan

But does it have a circle?

jcolebrand

It had better

Michael Mrozek

I consider it a personal failure to post a meta question without a screenshot. Although usually my circles are the 4-sided variety

jcolebrand

7:38 PM

Square wheel

A square wheel is a wheel that, instead of being circular, has the shape of a square. While literal square wheels exist, a more common use is as a metaphor meaning stereotypically bad or naïve engineering (see reinventing the wheel). A square wheel can roll smoothly if the ground consists of evenly shaped inverted catenaries of the right size and curvature. A different type of square-wheeled vehicle was invented in 2006 by Jason Winckler of Global Composites, Inc. in the United States. This has square wheels, linked together and offset by 22.5°, rolling on a flat surface. The prototype a...

Hogan

Square Wheel <> Square Circle

jcolebrand

@Hogan ummmm how's that?

a circle is a regular shape, and a four sided regular shape is a square ...

Hogan

... sorry something came up... be back in a bit. :(

Michael Mrozek

I think Disqus has missed the point a bit:

balpha

lol

yeah, disqus is nice, but not awesome

it's just the simplest thing possible

Michael Mrozek

7:54 PM

balpha.blogoverflow.com

Hogan

back

I like that MM -- I wonder what they do with the password if you fill it in?

Michael Mrozek

@Hogan Store it in plaintext in their database forever, I imagine

Hogan

on a file that is indexed by search spiders?

file format: openid : <value>, email : <value>, password : <value>

Moshe

8:27 PM

0

Q: Does a Core Data model "style" question belong on Code Review StackExchange?

I'm about to ask a question about my Core Data model. I plan to show my model/relationships and then describe my app. Where does this question belong?

discussion

@Hogan They probably leave it as low hanging fruit for a hacker group to flaunt on their website and eventually CNet, Slashdot and Reddit. (In no particular order.)

Hogan

8:48 PM

@Moshe Only for the Sony support site.

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