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10:01 PM
I should make a data.SE query to know of much up+down vote he gets :P
 
He has most of the lowest-voted answers.
 
Most controversial <strike>user</strike> <strike>thing</strike> respected and beautiful moderator :P
 
Nah, just us saying that we don't agree with his heavy-handed ways at times. But we still use the hell out of the site.
and bear in mind, meta gets about 0.6% of the traffic of SO, so the ones of us that come to meta actually really care about the network. but we obviously don't represent a majority stake
 
0.6?
damn
 
only 0.6% care about the network?
is sad
 
10:07 PM
I need keyboard navigation ...
Like in gmail
 
@OctavianDamiean no, only 0.6% really care about the network, and you have to remember that SO is huge.
a top 200 on the internet site
 
> Stackoverflow.com is ranked #121 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings. Compared with the overall internet population, the site appeals more to men; its visitors also tend to consist of childless people under the age of 35 who browse from work and have postgraduate educations. Approximately 63% of visits to the site consist of only one pageview (i.e., are bounces). Visitors to the site view 2.7 unique pages each day on average.
 
New gear idea: meta.SO : we CARE about StackOverflow?
 
That's from Alexa
@Mvy we have keyboard navigation, and it's awesome
 
10:12 PM
The github link?
 
Someone should add something to SEChatModifications that detects when someone in chat has requested keyboard navigation and spams the link from everyone with the script installed
 
lol
ok time to get greasemonkey
 
That reminds me, there's probably a lot of outstanding issues to take care of on the main site keyboard navigation. I think that Rebecca found a general purpose plugin she liked well enough not to be too concerned about it, but I'll spend some time on it in the near future for the sake of completeness.
 
@MichaelMrozek DO IT!
 
@Mvy WRONG
so very very wrong...
time to get CHROME
 
10:15 PM
it does not include a support for socks proxy
I need to use the windows one
and it does not satisfies me that way
SO keeping FF with my foxyproxy
Plus the new panorama is genius :P
 
wait, chrome doesn't support socks proxy?
 
it sure does
 
@xlu.2007: SOCKS 5 is supported.

To use a SOCKS 5 proxy server you need to start chrome with the --proxy-
server="socks5://<host>:<port>" syntax, or specify "SOCKS5 <host>:<port>" in a
PAC file.
 
The last time I tried the proxy settings drove me to windows proxy settings
I need the browser to support it entirely on its own
so other connections are not forwarded as well
/help
hum
 
why? that's just silly to my ears
 
10:19 PM
(You have to refresh the page after the script is installed)
 
I suppose your office has setup complicated routing issues?
 
Yes ... I've just get that idea too :P
well I see a new timestamp style
with the number of the line
that means is loaded
all commands are /command?
 
Most of them. You can check out the README (or this potentially more up-to-date version) for more details.
 
@TimStone Oh yeah !
The shortcuts for chat and SE sites are the same?
 
No, the shortcuts for SE sites are in another script.
I don't know what the progress on that currently is without looking at the code.
 
10:28 PM
I install it BTW but do no see any documentation
 
@TimStone I looked all over the castle for that script to no avail!
 
SEKeyboardShortcuts.user.js
 
@badpssockpuppet Your script is in another castle!
 
How devious!
 
17 mins ago, by mmyers
@Mvy http://rchern.github.com/StackExchangeScripts/
I get that from here
 
10:29 PM
heads off to the Reddit castle
 
@badpssockpuppet With the high price of gas, we were hoping you'd just give up your quest. We didn't expect you to journey for miles on foot.
 
@badpssockpuppet lemme know if there's anything there worth seeing
 
@Mvy I think if you type H it brings up a help window? It's not completely done though I don't think, so that's why there isn't formal documentation for it.
 
and I already saw this one reddit.com/r/VolleyballGirls/comments/hkuy9/… but if you didn't and you don't have a weak sensibility (or pesky coworkers about) click it anyways
 
actually I think I'm camping for the night
 
10:30 PM
hum... not
 
@badpssockpuppet camping like in CS or camping like in, camping?
 
Or Harold Camping?
Wow. I've killed two rooms at once. Bonus!
 
Hello
I'm still alive
unfourtunately
 
And you feel fantastic?
 
maybe
 
10:38 PM
how's the cake?
 
a lie
 
I showed Josh this picture and then he heard thunder outside his window...
I think my diamond powers are growing in
 
Become one with the diamond. Use the powers as an extension of yourself.
 
hehe, I know, I could be like Storm
only, a dude Storm
 
For example, someone two cubes away is making noise. I will now use my powers to ban him from the building.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
10:42 PM
Are you sure this isn't a hummmina hummmina hummmina situation?
 
lol
let me know if that works out
 
Well, I have a headache and I forgot what I was trying to do.
 
I've been trying to light @RebeccaChernoff on fire with my mind for a solid 9 months now. Little progress, but I haven't given up
 
@MichaelMrozek That's exactly the sort of thing that should be in the mod menu but isn't.
 
@mmyers You were helping me with Operation Burning Oy
 
10:44 PM
@mmyers apparently you have not become one with the Diamond
 
@mmyers I'm sure we can add userscript support.
 
Hey, wait, he just left work!
VICTORY!
 
\o/
 
blows across fingertips, sits back and eyes the world coolly
 
hehe
 
10:55 PM
OK fine, I'll come in here
 
welcome
 
Actually I have a question, how do you guys run your SE chats in the browser? Just a browser tab per channel or what?
It feels a little inelegant
 
@Rahul I do; I think most people just have one tab and use the room list on the right to switch between them
 
Oh shit was that the Star Trek comm sound?
Yeah I've been doing that
 
I think the user script they kinked me allow me to switch with the keyboard
 
10:59 PM
I wish there was a keyboard shortcut for that
 
I need to test that
 
Like switching spaces on Mac OS X
 
I have a window dedicated to chat on my right-hand screen, with a tab for each room. But as @MichaelMrozek mentioned, I think I'm in the minority on that one.
 
@Mvy It's /switch, I think
 
yes
And it's working
BTW could be great to switch also to the gaming chat
but it's no more meta.SO
 
11:02 PM
At some point there was talking of merging chat.MSO and chat.SE, but it never happened
 
humm
 
Hmm, what about a twitter-like UI where all the messages from all rooms you're in are just dumped into one big list with highlighting to differentiate?
And filters you can turn on and off
 
Sounds miserable :). I don't know of anything like that
 
Well if you think about why rooms exist, they're basically mapped to reality and intended for contextualising conversation
But if you're in a bunch of rooms and they're not all superactive, why further limit activity by splitting people into only looking at one (dead) room at a time?
Show me everything at once and as long as it's manageable I'll figure it out
It's not like I get confused by twitter; the UI shows me everything AND lets me focus on a specific conversation
Man now I want to build this
 
I know somebody who used a chat client that showed all messages from all people in one window, and he had to start each message with target_nick: so it knew who he was talking to. That would drive me nuts
 
11:07 PM
Across all of the rooms I'm in, there are usually at least 2000 messages per day, so it seems unlikely to me at least that it would be manageable.
 
@MichaelMrozek Well, World of Warcraft works like that too.. you're constantly in multiple "rooms" (General, Trade, Raid, Guild, Party, etc... as well as rooms you make yourself) and you just type /x to direct your message somewhere
It's not that bad honestly
And it remembers the last place you sent a message to
@TimStone 2000 messages per day isn't that much. 2000/24/60 = 1.4/minute
Now if it were 1.4/second that'd be a different story :)
 
And wow is not a reference :P
 
wow is not a reference?
 
It's enough that I don't want them all grouped together, though. :)
 
<troll>
Hum... the help overlay is not working
but shortcuts are
 
11:14 PM
Hmm, I think it's time for dinner.
 
I have three browser tabs pinned in Chrome, one for chat.SO, one for chat.MSO, and one for chat.SE. I then use each tab's room's list to keep track of all the rooms I'm in.
 
dinner is far away
 
deja vu, I think we've had this chat before
 
lol
Déjà vu indeed!
AHHH found the navigation shortcuts
good
But it's a little messing with the UI
 
shortcuts for chat or SE sites proper?
 
11:21 PM
SE
Can select the question/user/unanswer etc pages
then navigate with J and K
enter to select
then can reply vote up vote down flag..
very nice
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Q: Which site can I ask about the different flavors of Windows OS?

Daniel WilliamsI want to ask questions about the different flavors of Windows OS but am not sure which site is best. Super User, Server Fault, Stack Overflow, other?

Is asking help a reason for downvotes?
I saw a good occasion to help a new user.
 
@Mvy He was downvoted (presumably) because there isn't enough detail about what the question actual entails to make an informed decision.
 
Humm
This is what comments are for
well
 
Not my downvotes, so. :P
 
Ok time for a little Jon Skeet facts reading
"If Jon Skeet posts a duplicate question on StackOverflow, the original question will be closed as duplicate."
XD
 
11:41 PM
I see we have a new convert to MSO
 
@Mvy Everything is a reason for down-votes on Meta.
 
@Mvy you do realize you don't have to read us the transcripts of all the famous posts, right? :p
@Shog9 even if you agree with a post?
I should consider doing that on Qs now. Downvote the ones I like and upvote the ones I don't.
 
lol
 
@drachenstern Agreement can be a reason to down-vote, yes. Actually, I used to do this on SO for answers to controversial questions...
 
it just seems like a fun meta-game, to downvote the ones you like and upvote the ones you don't.
but it would require mass participation
 
11:44 PM
If you get two answers that are both likely to see some support, and like one better than the other, down-vote the one you don't like right off the bat - it'll get a sympathy vote quick, at which point you reverse your voting and watch it float to the top.
 
hummm
 
(caveat: this is more difficult now because of the voting time-limit and Programmers.SE)
 
programmers?
 
interesting philosophy
homegoing
foodeating
walkdoging
 
It's official. My reputation on meta.SO is over the one on SO.
 
11:59 PM
Mine's a fair bit higher, but I don't have a very high rep in SO...
 

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