Stop Harming the Community

@Ramhound Any decent disinformation campaign is going to have control over enough accounts to be able to vote things to whatever level they think is best.

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Oh, I read that as 0.1F. Still, I just say no to charged capacitors.

Definitely insulting. Also, please keep that capacitor far away from me.

absolutely

It never ceases to amaze me how terrible things in Spanish can be said as terms of endearment.

If you look at the history of them, a fair number originally used the canonical terms and got bowdlerized as they got passed down.

heh. I sure wish I remember what language that was.

I once met someone who spoke a language where almost every concept had a rude and a polite way to express it.

:)

All I remember is that it's a fairly synthetic language and doesn't really have a concept of adjectives. But I did translate a few lines of the Beatles' Yesterday into Klingon for irony's sake.

But yes, it's an actual conlang. I had a copy of the Klingon-English Dictionary as a kid.

> The Klingon Hamlet was inspired by a popular line in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, in which the Klingon chancellor Gorkon comments to Captain Kirk that “You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon.”

shakespeareandbeyond.folger.edu/2016/09/16/…

Next you'll be telling me that it's worthwhile to read Shakespeare in something other than the original klingon.

Is it possible to swear in other languages? I mean really swear?

@StevoisiaksupportsMonica You can contribute to this encyclopedia article

But if I remember correctly, the age threshold of 13 is hard-coded into the law, so they can't change it to 18 through a regulation.

@Andy The FTC issued a request for comments about what is currently going well and what needs fixing with COPPA. The scope of questions asked is quite large. The next step is to look at that info, create proposed changes to the regulations, and then ask for comments on the changes. Nobody knows at this point what changes they will decide to make.

Agreeing and agreeing vigorously are guaranteed to be options.

My cell phone has started to autocorrect to "Attack Exchange". I don't even know if it's wrong.

SO inherited a lot of baggage from bug tracking systems, and there's a reason why most companies don't make their bug tracking systems transparent to their users.

Honestly I always perceived SO as more "obsessed with unexpected things" than "unfriendly", but I'm well aware that most people perceive people in the first category as being in the second.

@Tinkeringbell The American law on those questions is weird. They're not allowed to look at those answers while doing hiring, except for the veteran status one. It's still a good idea for them to ask in order to make sure their process isn't biased and for more obscure legal reasons.

@BryanKrause It's possible that SE is fatally flawed, like one of those tiny Life configurations that explode into something huge but eventually die out completely.

@StevoisiaksupportsMonica SE is terrifying for a lot of users. The correct answer is to fix your product, not stop dogfooding.

There were more demographic questions than questions about SE.

Nothing could be better than marketing people solving all our problems. What could possibly go wrong?

I'm ok with meta going away, but if they think that's going to make me stop treating the rest of SE as read only until they stop harming Monica, they're dead wrong.

Oh, and we're going to have moderators that are more equal.

@Tinkeringbell It's highly amenable to a "we're not going to listen to our community in a meaningful way but we want to make it look like we are going to" interpretation.

@Tinkeringbell Simple solution: split into two posts.

Not quite. There are also the carefully curated comments.

sigh, how can SE not see that they are just throwing more gas on the fire with this blog post? Even if the Loop really does meet everyone's needs, the way they are going about it is almost calculated to trigger loss aversion.

That's very expensive.

If most reasons people don't like SO aren't marginalized-specific, optimizing for the exceptional cases isn't going to help much.

I'm mostly convinced that the major reasons marginalized people don't like SO are the same reasons that non-marginalized people don't like SO, but they may perceive those reasons differently.

I just went through the survey. It was almost completely useless. There was no way to suggest improvements except through shoehorning it into an answer to another question.

@user58 Wouldn't pass a COPPA review.

@ShadowThePrincessWizard Amazon had a search engine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A9.com#A9.com_search_portal

@JyrkiLahtonen Depending on the context, gamification victim or person who just wants to help people could be appropriate.

@Tinkeringbell Flagging is still a thing for Kialo, but moderators are chosen per-question, not per-site, and are expected to have a very thorough knowledge of the discussion on that question. On the other hand, Kialo has very granular tracking of which changes you haven't seen and a "Guided Voting" mode that makes making sure you've seen everything in a discussion very easy.

@bobobobo For clarification, that image wasn't what I meant by "interesting content."

@Tinkeringbell That's certainly not what Kialo was intended for, but it fits the format quite well and wouldn't get removed. Getting people to actually answer could be challenging, but that's the asker's job.

Kialo is really the opposite of SE in essentially every design decision. SE focuses on narrow, technical questions, while Kialo focuses on broad, subjective questions that are supposed to be phrased as yes/no questions.

Funny you should mention that. I've been reading this paper recently. It's not directly on point, but the citations could be a useful starting point.

@Tinkeringbell Transparency causes bushfires, and opacity causes bushfires. I don't think there is a conservation law for outrage, but it certainly has a lower limit.

Consider linking to the official summary that Luke found, so that more people will see what happened after that story was written.