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12:35 AM

Huh, that starred comment with "𝕽𝔢𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯" in it can't be starred from the star sidebar.

The glyphs in "𝔰𝔲𝔭𝔢𝔯-𝔢𝔣𝔣𝔢𝔠𝔱𝔦𝔳𝔢" cause my mouse to be unable to hover over the star without it believing I am hovering over the text.

@MetaAndrewT. Please don't tell me this is CSRFable.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Tin sorry, can I please ask a question about the Cafe? it's been 4 days and nothing's happened yet...

forest distrusts StackExchange

I it that important to re-open it so quickly?

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard So - this is kinda the heart of the problem. We ask you not to do something. It happens...

We ask again - it still happens. Essentially - where there's a lack of trust that one can shepard a chatroom responsibly, and we find y'all have been trying to get around it, what we need, generally is a sign y'all are responsible

nagging Tink every other day does not show that.

forest distrusts StackExchange

Generally, if you need to do something in chat that's not allowed on Stack Exchange, you shouldn't be doing it on Stack Exchange. This isn't the only real-time chat network out there.

Journeyman Geek

So... you're going to have to wait. We'll get back to you when its time

@forestdistrustsStackExchange they want to play with chatbots and chat features :D

forest distrusts StackExchange

12:46 AM

Oh.

Like a chatbot testing room?

Journeyman Geek

Kinda sorta

also a kick testing room

forest distrusts StackExchange

Why would a room like that get locked, if it's just a test room?

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange We get notified if there's kicks

and it kept happening

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek um... sorry...

forest distrusts StackExchange

Does it auto-lock a room if enough users get kicked?

Journeyman Geek

12:48 AM

there's also other issues but those are messier and not for here

@forestdistrustsStackExchange the users lose the ability to create rooms + we get notified

forest distrusts StackExchange

huh

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek we won't kick anyone who isn't posting offensive content anymore.

@JourneymanGeek sorry...

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard I mean If you can't stop bugging Tink when asked...

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange good point.

Journeyman Geek

how can we trust you to run a chatroom on this server?

Tech Expert Wizard

12:49 AM

@JourneymanGeek lol we never try to test kicks.

@Journey we promise we won't ever kick anyone who isn't posting offensive content again :)

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard See - I asked you to wait

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange actually, the room's more like the Den 👌

Journeyman Geek

so you can show responsibility with patience.

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek ok, so if we have to wait, how long do we have to wait?

forest distrusts StackExchange

tl;dr they made a room that kicked people, not bots, for frivolous reasons or something?

Journeyman Geek

12:50 AM

@TechExpertWizard As long as you need to.

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek I mean, just like, can you guys please just give us an update on what's going on or smth?

@Journey how long'll that be?

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard we'll update you when there's something to update

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest we made the room for general friendly chit-chat and playing with chatbots, not for kicking... we only occasionally kicked as a test. sorry.

forest distrusts StackExchange

Ah, so it was basically a mistake that caused the room to auto-lock?

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard We'll let you know. The best way to speed things up is to demonstrate y'all can be responsible

Tech Expert Wizard

12:52 AM

@Journey but how long'll the next update come? I mean, I don't even care if that next update is about the room being unfrozen, just give us an update, please?!

@forest nah, Tin froze the room (((

forest distrusts StackExchange

oh

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard Ok, the room is frozen until further notice

there you go. Updated.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey uhhhh... that wasn't the update I wanted... :D

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek I think what he wants to know is if you know how long it'll be or if you don't know yourself. I.e. if you already know "we're doing it for 3 weeks" vs "we don't know, we'll have to see".

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard \o/

@forestdistrustsStackExchange Its very much "We don't know, we'll have to see"

Tech Expert Wizard

12:53 AM

@Journey what'll be the maximum time it'll take?

forest distrusts StackExchange

@TechExpertWizard If they don't know, then they just don't know.

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard 6-8 weeks, SE time.

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest um...

forest distrusts StackExchange

Maximum time could be forever, but "we'll have to see" probably implies no more than a week or two, giving them time to start to discuss it.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey what's SE time? 👌

@forest well, we'll have to hope so... :D

Journeyman Geek

12:55 AM

625

A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: 6 to 8 Weeks Originator: Jeff Atwood First Heard: May 13th, 2008 Cultural Height: In about 6 to 8 weeks Definition: The time estimate given "off the top of my head" when the Stack Overflow team has only a vague idea of how long a task will take because they have little-to-no formal sche...

forest distrusts StackExchange

My suggestion: Ask once or maybe twice a week, not every day.

That way you'll remind them without badgering them.

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange or in a month

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek 😭

Journeyman Geek

Monthly is good

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest good idea, I'll ask twice a week.

Journeyman Geek

12:55 AM

@TechExpertWizard frankly, annoying the mods isn't the best way to speed things up

forest distrusts StackExchange

Well I'd say limit it to once, just to make up for asking daily so far. :P

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange after being asked nicely not to.

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek I know, I know, but I'm being annoyed by the mods... :D

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard If there are any concrete updates - I promise to superping you

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest good idea.

Journeyman Geek

12:56 AM

then ping you every day for a month.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey why are you gonna ping me for every day for a month? 😆

Journeyman Geek

Well not the latter. We're not supposed to threaten users.

forest distrusts StackExchange

Maybe have someone else create a new chat room, and don't kick bots?

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek superping? thanks

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard VENGENCE!

Tech Expert Wizard

12:57 AM

@JourneymanGeek lol

@forest nah we won't ever kick bots again :ok_hand:

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange we told them not to create new chatrooms

forest distrusts StackExchange

oh

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek LOL!

@Journey yep

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard superpings are mod only pings

forest distrusts StackExchange

So someone else could do it, then? Someone who follows whatever rules there are?

Tech Expert Wizard

12:58 AM

@Journey lol

Journeyman Geek

basically as long as you have a chat account, even if you're not been active on chat...

forest distrusts StackExchange

And you can just visit that room (since you're not banned from visiting rooms).

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange and don't give them RO powers

But that's kinda half the fun there.

forest distrusts StackExchange

Are they banned from having RO in any rooms as well as creating new rooms?

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey actually, how about this? give me (I'm the only troublemaker if you look at the logs) a two-day chatban. and then if I ever kick bots again, chatban me for as long as you want :ok_hand:

Journeyman Geek

12:59 AM

@TechExpertWizard No

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest actually I'm not banned from being RO.

@Journey why not?

Journeyman Geek

You don't get to negotiate

forest distrusts StackExchange

Then I guess you'll only get RO if someone decides to give you RO.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey why?

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange then someone will get annoyed and both of you will get in trouble

@TechExpertWizard Why not?

Tech Expert Wizard

1:00 AM

@forest I think mods'll probably re-RO me after it's unfrozen...

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek "both of you" - Hey, I'm not going to be giving anyone RO.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey why why not? :P

forest distrusts StackExchange

I only have RO in Crypto.SE chat anyway.

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest and you're not gonna be creating any MSE chatroom apparently 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

Well I don't know enough about the situation here to want to do that.

Journeyman Geek

1:01 AM

@TechExpertWizard Ok - I think I'm having a failure to communicate.

5 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard frankly, annoying the mods isn't the best way to speed things up

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek actually, why should the entire room be frozen?

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard Why not?

Tech Expert Wizard

> frankly, letting us getting annoyed isn't the best way to make us stop doing bad things 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek Since you mentioned communication failure possibilities, I should probably point out that "why not?" implies a certain amount of arbitrary reasoning, so it might not be the phrase you meant.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey but why why not? :P

@forest good point 🙂

Journeyman Geek

1:02 AM

Or more precisely - when the folks managing the room constantly seem to be causing trouble, we can't really know who can manage the room appropriately

So if the room (and RO-ness) is the source of the problem, we'd have to remove the problem until things calm down

forest distrusts StackExchange

Give the room to me. I will rule it with an iron fist. ALL WILL BOW TO MY COMMAND

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek please look at the kicking logs; you'll see that I was the one who always kicked bots. so give me a two-day chatban and don't let me be RO for an entire month.

@Journey meh

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard Once again...

@forestdistrustsStackExchange ... I am tempted

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest THAT WILL BE NO FUN, I STILL WANT MY FRIENDS TO BE RO!!!

@JourneymanGeek once again what?

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard So - basically, we'll get back to you when we're ready to unfreeze the room.

Tech Expert Wizard

1:04 AM

@JourneymanGeek meh, if you're gonna let forest be RO, you'll also need to let my friends be RO. I promise they won't make me RO.

forest distrusts StackExchange

I don't think he's serious about making me RO. :P

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey but why can't you unfreeze the room and put a responsible RO such as forest on there?

Journeyman Geek

snort

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest you mean Journey?

@Journey who're you replying to? this is message overflow... :P

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange Honestly - do you think I think you're responsible? D:

Spevacus

1:05 AM

@TechExpertWizard This is the part where you accept the temporary cooldown and we move on. Trust me, the mods here are pretty cool. It won't be an incredibly long time, I'm sure. :)

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey :P

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek I wasn't the one who called myself a responsible RO. :D

Journeyman Geek

Yup :D

Tech Expert Wizard

@Spe thanks... you're someone I like 🙂 we're indirect friends through Victor :)

Journeyman Geek

ANYWAY

Tech Expert Wizard

1:05 AM

@Journey ANYWAY what?

Spevacus

@TechExpertWizard Aw, thanks :)

Tech Expert Wizard

@Spe Aw, you're welcome :)

Journeyman Geek

Lets table this for now. I'll inform you if there's a change in status

Spevacus

The "Anyway" is us departing from this conversation. This is the part where we talk about waffles.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey and you're putting me into nervous breakdown :P

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:06 AM

@TechExpertWizard Is there any particular reason why you can't just move to a non-SE chat?

That should solve all these problems.

Spevacus

Discord's a good option. You can develop bots there, too!

Journeyman Geek

My Dog Throws His Bowl At Me Demanding Waffles! Talking Husky!

►

forest distrusts StackExchange

Discord is awful. IRC or XMPP ftw.

Spevacus

To each their own.

forest distrusts StackExchange

(I just dislike centralized chats like Discord. Also you need to use a browser)

Journeyman Geek

1:08 AM

@forestdistrustsStackExchange from our conversations, you hate everything but IRC :D

(XMPP... YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THE CHOSEN ONE!)

forest distrusts StackExchange

It's more that I hate everything, period. I just hate IRC a little less.

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange Because we can't make chatbots there 👌

@Spevacus nah, those bots suck 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

Sure you can.

You can make bots almost anywhere.

Tech Expert Wizard

12 secs ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

@Spevacus nah, those bots suck 👌

Spevacus

>:(

Tech Expert Wizard

1:10 AM

12 secs ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

@Spevacus nah, those bots suck 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

You can make bots that don't suck.

You're on one of the biggest programmer websites. :P

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange all Discord bots suck :P

Spevacus

What about them sucks?

forest distrusts StackExchange

Does Discord not let you create your own?

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange but they simply all suck because they're different from SE chatbots...

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:10 AM

Or is it just that everyone uses existing bots that suck?

What makes SE chatbots unique? I find that SE chat is... lacking.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Spe they require you to get an API key and register with them and verify the bot and blah blah blah...

@forestdistrustsStackExchange they do...

@forestdistrustsStackExchange not about that

Spevacus

Almost as though they're trying to be careful :|

Journeyman Geek

SE has no API :D

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest and that makes SE chatbot development simple 🙂

forest distrusts StackExchange

@TechExpertWizard So don't let them know it's a bot.

Journeyman Geek

1:11 AM

@Spevacus on the contrary, they never quite bothered.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Spe 😆

forest distrusts StackExchange

@TechExpertWizard SE chat I find to be a lot more complex than any other protocol.

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek it does, tho they're unofficial, SOBotics

@forestdistrustsStackExchange that's called running a self-bot and it's prohibited 👌

@Journey wdym?

forest distrusts StackExchange

@TechExpertWizard So?

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange well, once you start it doesn't feel that complex 👌

Journeyman Geek

1:12 AM

@TechExpertWizard - there was a planned chat API that never got off the ground

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest they'll probably ban my Discord account if they find out 😐

Journeyman Geek

Most of the bots are basically pretty much based off the fact that the chat site hasn't changed in a very long time

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek there's the unofficial APIs that I linked to 👌

@Journey yeah, most of 'em don't rely on APIs 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

@TechExpertWizard Then try XMPP/IRC. Bots aren't banned there.

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard they arn't APIs, they're libraries that essentially use things like beautiful soup to parse the chat page

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:14 AM

haha beautiful soup

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange but my friends aren't there.

@Journey oh

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange I vaguely recall that's what the python one uses

forest distrusts StackExchange

@TechExpertWizard So bring them there.

Tech Expert Wizard

@forestdistrustsStackExchange that's why they need a mandatory dependency of jsoup, that's the equivalent of beautiful soup (which is for Python) for Java

forest distrusts StackExchange

You aren't writing your bots in Java are you?

Tech Expert Wizard

1:15 AM

@Journey my friend says it's called beautiful soup 👌

@forestdistrustsStackExchange they're probably very disinterested in IRC and one of them actually wants to contact SE staff :P

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange having looked at their bots spew error codes a few times... yes

Tech Expert Wizard

@forest of course I'm writing in Java, why not? 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

Because it's Java.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey their bots? who's "them"? you mean TechBOT? yeah I made it spew errors so that I could debug it because the error logger broke down :P

@forest meh

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange eh, whatever works

Its not like a chatbot is very security or performance sensitive

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:17 AM

Security of Java is actually not too bad.

Tech Expert Wizard

@JourneymanGeek meh

forest distrusts StackExchange

But it's a horrible language.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey yeah, if it's a very secure bot that needs to be written in Java :ok_hand:

@forestdistrustsStackExchange yep

@forest EDIT: But it's a terrific language.

Journeyman Geek

@TechExpertWizard more that the best language is the one you know

Tech Expert Wizard

@Journey the best language is Java 👌

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:18 AM

People often mistake the horrible security of the old days of browsers that ran unsigned Java applets with the security of the JVM or language specifications itself.

Tech Expert Wizard

@for yea...

forest distrusts StackExchange

How many languages do you know other than Java?

Tech Expert Wizard

@for I know a bit of Python, some HTML and CSS, a bit of JS and PHP

(silence)

forest distrusts StackExchange

Well there's your problem. Python is good. HTML and CSS are markup languages and stylesheets, respectively, JS is literally cancer (why the hell is '1' + 1 == 11 but '11' - 1 == NaN), and PHP functions suck at reliable error handling.

Tech Expert Wizard

@for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:20 AM

Learn some C, Perl, maybe even a little x86 ASM.

Perl is great for chat bots.

Spevacus

Wait is that last bit true? '1' + 1 == 11 but '11' - 1 == NaN? That's... Hilarious.

forest distrusts StackExchange

Yeah something like that. There's a website that shows all these horrific equivalencies.

Huh, why am I not able to find that site?

Well, this isn't the one I was thinking of, but it's equally hilarious.

github.com/denysdovhan/wtfjs

 3  - 1  // -> 2
 3  + 1  // -> 4
'3' - 1  // -> 2
'3' + 1  // -> '31'

'' + '' // -> ''
[] + [] // -> ''
{} + [] // -> 0
[] + {} // -> '[object Object]'
{} + {} // -> '[object Object][object Object]'

'222' - -'111' // -> 333

[4] * [4]       // -> 16
[] * []         // -> 0
[4, 4] * [4, 4] // NaN

:D

Spevacus

Nice.

'222' - -'111' // -> 333

I don't even wanna know.

forest distrusts StackExchange

And, of course NaN === NaN is false!

Btw, JavaScript was designed in only 10 days.

Shog9

2:05 AM

Four days more than Creation, so you KNOW it's good

Journeyman Geek

@Shog9 look how that turned out

forest distrusts StackExchange

We lost the documentation on quantum mechanics. You'll have to decode the regexes yourself.

Feeds

4:49 AM

stackoverflow.blog/2021/04/30/…

Meta Andrew T.

6:04 AM

@Feeds A curious issue from blog's feed to missing onebox

Tinkeringbell

@MetaAndrewT. I don't get what's so curious about it :P Isn't a mentor the same as a personal trainer?

Meta Andrew T.

well, marketing clickbait :p

apparently, "Frontend Mentor" is the name of the platform

user912062

6:19 AM

@meta you really tried destroying community user?

Meta Andrew T.

@RocketNikita unfortunately, yes...

user912062

I wonder, what would happen if you succeeded...

Journeyman Geek

@RocketNikita Bug report, apologies, Cake and Grief Counselling

forest distrusts StackExchange

6:35 AM

@MetaAndrewT. Did you only have to click the link, or did you have to confirm the action?

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange mod menu, 2 'radio buttons' one submit button.

So... kinda

there's a few other checks later

We're unlikely to oops a user

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

6:56 AM

Wikipedia:Don't delete the main page

One admin was discussing the deletion of the main page in IRC and asked if the technical ability to delete pages with over 5,000 revisions, like the main page, had ever been re-enabled. Another admin (jokingly) commented that he had tested it and found that the main page still couldn't be deleted. The first admin thought he would test it for himself. The main page got deleted.You might think you are having a laugh, but sometimes, the joke is missed. If you find yourself having to say "jokes do not come across well here", you are best off having avoided the joke in the first place. In other words...

Journeyman Geek

7:31 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Deleting the main page, then posting in meta is very much the SE tradition

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Another thing mentioned there: a user attempted to use a bot to make 1,200 useless edits to the page to bring it up to the 5,000 revision threshold for which a WMF developer would be required to delete, but ended up clogging the servers for everyone else simply browsing the site (and fell short of the threshold).

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog annnd some version of that has likely happened here

rene

7:54 AM

→ 37 messages moved to Chimney

Rob

8:41 AM

@forestdistrustsStackExchange I think that where the confusion arose, is that He spoke with a lisp.

Mithical

@JourneymanGeek "we tried this to see what would happen. it broke everything, sorry, but the good news is that now you can fix it!"

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Spevacus no, just tried, '11' - 1 gives 10.

Maybe that's something ancient.

Or someone just trolling without actually checking first.

JS try to convert strings to number type when performing the basic math operations, it's bad but has its value.

Journeyman Geek

9:05 AM

@Mithical @Mithical I mean.... you do see this happening right? :D

Mithical

do you remember all the times I played around with the chat suspension system?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

9:25 AM

Nope

Journeyman Geek

:D

user912062

haha spam poof

Journeyman Geek

@RocketNikita better extra crispy

user912062

*=*

user912062

@JourneymanGeek lol

user912062

9:37 AM

(@_@)

user912062

hmm

user912062

Hi, @janw!

janw

@RocketNikita o/

user912062

:b

Feeds

12:17 PM

stackoverflow.blog/2021/04/30/the-overflow-71-copied-and-pasted

Meta Andrew T.

@Feeds oned not boxed

user912062

@Smo C'mon it's a repost

user912062

hmm

user912062

SERIAL SPAMMER ALERT!!!

user912062

poof

user912062

12:28 PM

gone

rene

Some confusing answers here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/186618

user912062

@rene downvote&NAA

Spevacus

Needs some glorious 20k del-votes. Where's Luuklag when you need him.

rene

@RocketNikita Technically not NAA

user912062

@rene at least the longer one is NAA

user912062

12:38 PM

poof, gone

Spevacus

One down one to go.

user912062

the second one is just wrong

user912062

boom, second one blew up on my eyes!

Self

12:54 PM

"unclear what you're asking" reason is now gone. Should we use "Needs details or clarity" or "Needs more focus" to flag question in an other language

rene

@Self details or clarity is fine

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Mith hope everyone you know are fine?

Mithical

yeah

Tech Expert Wizard

1:43 PM

hehe, @Roc when I see you talking about these spam reports, you're kinda like when I first arrived at MSE chat. the first room I met was this room, and I saw all those spam reports by Smokey and... I kinda acted like you did here... :D

Feeds

5:07 PM

I'm looking forward to having to worry a lot less about covid, but wouldn't mind if we worried a little more about giving each other colds. Colds are bad!

Tinkeringbell

5:19 PM

@Feeds Dear Feeds, you're wrong. Wearing a mask is by no means a universally understood 'no covidiocy' sign.

Tinkeringbell

6:11 PM

@Spevacus Vacation :P

Spevacus

Hopefully he's somewhere warm.

Tinkeringbell

I do hope his heating works :P I doubt he's travelled abroad though, most borders are still closed here.

Anonymous

7:14 PM

I'm a diamond mod??

Meta Andrew T.

@Anonymous feel free to post a bug report on Meta Stack Exchange :)

Anonymous

@MetaAndrewT. Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See the Help Center to learn more.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Met yep, Ano was question-banned.

Anonymous

I'd like to thank SE for not giving me a warning of any kind and for taking so ridiculously long before offering another chance.

user400654

lol

Mast

7:28 PM

Yet they reward you with delete privileges, apparently.

Anonymous

@Mast It will give my an error if I try to do it...

Mast

@Anonymous I've just verified the window doesn't really look like that.

Not anymore, at least.

Anonymous

@Mast I meant that I enabled it looking like that only for me, I can't actually do anything with it but it makes me feel like a mod. :D

Mast

Whatever you did, it's not getting you the correct window.

Anonymous

I know... I can disable it if I want, I'm just leaving it enabled for fun because nothing there will give me any more privileges then what I already have.

user400654

7:43 PM

😐

Catija

OK... so... I don't really care if you want to pretend to yourself that you're a mod but that's not what you did in here. You made it sound to others like you had found a major bug that gives you access you don't have.

12

Anonymous

@Catija I can't control how others interpret my message.

hyper-neutrino

@Anonymous You posted an image suggesting you were a mod and said "I'm a diamond mod??". How else do you want that interpreted?

Anonymous

@hyper-neutrino That I have an alternate account that's a diamond mod?

John Dvorak

@Anonymous that would be sock abuse and a privilege escalation exploit

both punishable by death

Spevacus

7:49 PM

Or worse, taxes!

Anonymous

@JohnDvorak How is that sock abuse?

@Spevacus lol

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus Taxes are okay-ish, as long as you don't have to pay! I don't even live in my own place yet, and it's already cost me approximate 100 euros in taxes this year!

Spevacus

@Tinkeringbell Ridiculous!

John Dvorak

@Anonymous how's it not?

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus Yeah, that's my opinion as well!

You pay the taxes for having the property though, regardless of whether you inhabit it...

Anonymous

7:51 PM

@JohnDvorak I'm not sure what makes it abuse...

Tinkeringbell

@Anonymous Well, then it's a good thing you don't have an alternate account that has moderator privileges.

Moderators are expected to understand such basic stuff.

Anonymous

@Tinkeringbell Please explain how taking a screenshot is abuse.

John Dvorak

that particular bit isn't. Two other bits are.

Tinkeringbell

@Anonymous Please go re-read the conversation, and don't de-rail it with misinterpretations.

user400654

🚽

hyper-neutrino

7:53 PM

"please explain how taking a screenshot is abuse" oh right, my bad, you merely "just took a screenshot". it's a good thing you didn't post that screenshot and pretend to be a moderator.

Tinkeringbell

@user400654 Just went. But thanks ;)

John Dvorak

(well, taking a screenshot can be abuse; any chance the menu is supposed to be PI?)

Tinkeringbell

I think it's time for a very unsubtle topic change. Since taxes didn't stick...

Any good ideas?

John Dvorak

Religion?

Catija

favorite sandwiches

hyper-neutrino

7:54 PM

Nice weather here, isn't it?

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Tinkeringbell

@Catija Pretty boring. Mine is cheese XD

Spevacus

What's everyone's go-to Subway order?

Catija

Grilled?

Tinkeringbell

Or at least, that's the one I eat most often.

@Catija Rarely, but that's much better :)

Catija

@Spevacus To go to somewhere else? :P

Tinkeringbell

7:55 PM

@Spevacus What's a Subway? :P

Spevacus

Bruuutal.

John Dvorak

ham and cheese. Not healthy, but it is easy to make.

Spevacus

@Tinkeringbell Place for sub sandwiches. Pretty mid-low tier, somewhat fast-food restaurant here in the US. Not sure what other countries it's in.

Anonymous

@hyper-neutrino I wasn't pretending to be a moderator! For all you know, I used a picture that another mod posted.

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus I know the name :P There's just not one around here.

You're talking to a person that only last week had KFC for the first time in her life :P

John Dvorak

7:56 PM

@Anonymous doesn't check out

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak Come on, focus. Sandwiches :P

John Dvorak

right

Spevacus

Not personally a big fan of KFC. Not sure what it is about ridiculously greasy fried chicken but...

Not my thing I guess. How did you like it?

user400654

fried chicken on bread is wrong

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak What's so unhealthy about ham and cheese though? I think there's much worse you can put on a sandwich....

@Spevacus It was... tiny? :P

John Dvorak

7:57 PM

is a burrito a sandwich? How about a taco?

@Tinkeringbell no, not on. Literally just a couple slices of ham between two thin blocks of edam.

Unionhawk

is a turkey wrap a sandwich? that'd be closer if anything

Tinkeringbell

I was thinking McDonalds sized portions, and we just had ice cream somewhere else, so I ordered a 'small' menu. Turns out those sizes aren't universal XD

Mast

:8858019 Copy it to Imgur first, now there's no one-box.

hyper-neutrino

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Tinkeringbell

But my brothers warned me and I got an extra burger, I liked the burger.

Spevacus

7:59 PM

Is a hot dog a taco, then?

John Dvorak

yes

Mast

Basically

hyper-neutrino

It's just an extra-soft/uncrispy taco, basically

Tinkeringbell

@Unionhawk wraps are nice too! I don't make them often as they're so much work, but I had a really nice one with smoked chicken, cucumber, apple slices, and some sort of dressing lately!

(Oh, and lettuce. No wraps without lettuce)

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