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Anonymous
12:04 AM
@Chris They're not included in the data dump. You can infer deleted questions by diffing old and new versions of the dump, but that's all.
 
@JeremyBanksʬʬʬ Ah, okay. Thanks.
I still think that including them in the data dump would be innocuous enough...
 
Anonymous
I mostly-agree.
 
Anonymous
I worry that there are probably some soft-deleted posts that should have been hard-deleted (private info, etc.), but that's my only reservation.
 
Anonymous
I tried to do such a diff myself, but hit the problem that my main computer is a laptop, which I don't leave on for the days at a time it would take to run this and I don't have any server large enough to handle the dumps beyond the first few months. (I just use a cheap VPS for personal stuff.)
 
@JeremyBanksʬʬʬ There's that and the fact that somewhere between 10 and 15 percent of content posted to Stack Overflow has been deleted...so under the assumption that the bulk of that deleted content has no lasting value anyway, trimming the fat off the data dump seems sensible.
Likewise for the data loaded into Data Explorer; making people go to more effort to exclude content that's generally worthless seems like a bad idea.
 
12:32 AM
Ohh...
Great answer!
If it hasn't been asked already, I may make this into a Meta question
 
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Q: Data dump should include deleted posts

Adam DavisGiven that deleted content is licensed CC just as the regular content is, it exists in the current SO database, and it is accessible to over 400 (10k+ rep) users, it should also be exported as part of the regular data dump. Further, it would give us someplace to send those annoyed with content d...

Doesn't look like a reason accompanied the though.
 
 
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4:28 AM
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Q: Override webpage doctype in my browser?

MosheMy CIS class' webpages seem to be using the shorthand HTML4 Doctype (as in, not with the full W3C URL) and improperly formed HTML. I'm having trouble seeing the pages although several professors seems to see it just fine. Is there a way to force my browser to render more leniently? I have access...

 
 
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Anonymous
6:17 AM
The number of people who have favorited a question: its favoritings?
 
Anonymous
Ah, it's called favorite count.
 
9:38 AM
There has still been no update on this? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/3683/…
 
 
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1:02 PM
@Moshe I believe IE's developer tools have a button which will allow it to render pages using any of IE6-9's rendering mode
 
 
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2:08 PM
I am a banana!
 
@jadarnel27 My spoon is too big
 
Hehe @YiJiangsProble =)
 
is raging because he has accidentally flagged the wrong answer in the review queue
Flagged a totally valid answer as not an answer just because it looked almost the same ...
You know, in the moderator tools you can expand and collapse a question. Why can't we have that same functionality in the review tools?
I should probably ask that as a question on Meta.
 
@TheUnicornWhisperer I'm quite sure you can, right?
 
@TheUnicornWhisperer I think I might have seen that asked...but I'm not sure.
 
2:18 PM
Nope, once you click review it is loaded and you can't collapse it again.
 
Something like this?
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Q: Reviewing question, can we toggle the review button?

RaviAs I see the review functionality in SO: we can review questions to rate or improve the content, but I see one small thing missing: can we include a feature where we can toggle the review option, i.e when you click review button, it will show the question to review, and there is no way to minim...

 
Exactly! Was already searching. :)
Thanks.
thinks about writing a user script for that
Can't be that complicated. Note: This is what I always say and then end up eating pain killers like crazy just because it actually is complicated.
Ok, so I have to navigate all the way down to the last TD in the Table inside of the DIV that contains the answer (class answer) and add another anchor tag that'll added the answer-summary and question-summary class again.
Mhmm.
Oh boy.
At least I have something useful to do this evening.
 
2:57 PM
Okay ... of course it isn't that easy ...
How could it be.
 
Looks like you'll get an early start on those painkillers =)
 
I'm gonna dump the idea ...
The way the content is added to the page makes it almost impossible to hide it.
I can hide the answer but not the question ...
 
I've never written userscripts before, although I always thought it sounded interesting.
 
@TheUnicornWhisperer It should only take 6 - 8 weeks: cznp.com/6to8weeks/index.php
 
 
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4:11 PM
Is it only diamond mods that see flags? Or do 10kers see some of them too?
 
10k can see some of the flags
 
Morning
 
@Mvy Thanks, that's kind of what I was thinking.
Morning Moshe!
 
4:31 PM
@jadarnel27 How's it going Josh?
 
@Moshe I am living the freakin' dream.
 
Life is good, indeed.
What're you up to?
 
4:45 PM
@Moshe Mornin'
 
@cdeszaq Morning, how's it going?
 
@Moshe I'm working on some really tedious changes to a website =/ How are you doing?
 
@jadarnel27 Learning that changing classes late costs actual real-live live paper money (or coinage).
 
@Moshe Pretty darn good...finally having a rather productive day after nearly a week of spinning my wheels getting no-where
@Moshe If only they took bitcoins ;)
 
@Moshe Ah, yes. I remember that. No fun.
 
4:47 PM
boo
 
@jadarnel27 That's "living the dream"? Bro, you have got to get more sleep if that's all you dream about!
 
glares at jsfiddle
 
@cdeszaq Kinda sounds like Joel @spolsky's definition of elegance - Lots of set up beforehand to get to one that one line of code at the end. (Somewhere in that video.)
In other words, a lot of seemingly nothing, just to get somewhere.
glares back at @mootinator from behind the one-way jsfiddle
 
@mootinator What's glare-worthy with jsfiddle?
 
@cdeszaq Can't login right now.
502 bad gateway
 
4:51 PM
@cdeszaq Hahahaha. Thank you for that. I'm always living the dream (in general, because I'm so awesome). I'll admit. This pixel-perfect garbage is not part of the dream =)
 
Yay it's working again.
 
@mootinator I'm able to get in, but it does seem to be amazingly slow...could by my network though.
 
I almost had to answer the question: How on earth am I going to fiddle with js without jsfiddle?
 
@jadarnel27 Pixel-perfect and Web have no place being thought of together. Much closer to a nightmare than a dream...
 
@cdeszaq Haha, yes. I've been going back and forth with one of our clients graphic designers for a while now.
(And I have officially started cheating by using this awesome piece of javascript that everyone should know about.
 
4:58 PM
IMO (note: not IMHO), if a designer doesn't understand that the web isn't pixel-perfect because you can't control the user and can't either a) make a design that doesn't require pixel-perfection, or b) can't live with minor deviations from the design, then that designer should stick to either print media, or desktop-app UI.
 
@cdeszaq I thoroughly agree, although I have talked to web developers that think differently.
 
@jadarnel27 Out of curiosity, what browsers are you using that to do specific CSS targeting with? In my experience, it's mostly just flavors of IE that have issues that require some sort of browser targeting to get looking correct.
 
(also, were you referencing my english SE post with that "IMHO" comment? Nice =P)
 
:) yup, that was for you buddy ;)
 
@cdeszaq That's mainly it for me as well. I have had to hit safari with a couple custom rules though.
Oh. And Firefox with one CSS rule. I probably could have done it without the hack, but I'm not sure.
 
5:06 PM
yeah, safari can be a bit of a pain at times, especially between OS platforms...windows and mac is occasionally different.
 
Right, which is what's so cool about that script =)
 
I like it. Definitely going into my very long list of tools. (even if I am slightly opposed to the idea of browser targeting)
 
You can do .mac .safari or .win .safari to target browser and platform.
@cdeszaq Normally, I am opposed to that too. These people just would not move forward without "pixel-perfection", so the big-wigs told me to do what I had to do.
 
nifty
@jadarnel27 Yeah, "just do it" isn't only a Nike slogan...
 
@cdeszaq There has been zero voting on those answers, by the way (except by me). Weird.
 
5:12 PM
I might switch from IMO (or IMHO) to using UHO ("ut humiliter opinor")... has a nice grunty look to it
 
You'll have to explain it every time you use it, and since it's Latin, you will look decidedly non-humble while doing it.
 
@PopularDemand Precisely! Nothing like an odd initialism to de-rail a conversation.
@PopularDemand More seriously though, good point. I'll make sure to only use it when I want to de-rail the conversation (for various reasons)
 
I think we should change the name of "down-voting" to "harsh-voting". Or possibly "harsh-burning".
You know, for funsies.
 
@jadarnel27 harsh-voting seems more like a close-vote to me
more severe than a simple down-vote
also, down-vote has the advantage of describing the way the arrow points (or is it that the arrow describes the action...?)
 
Hmmm. Good points.
 
5:25 PM
Now, an extra graphic bit involving some flames when one votes to close ...that would be fun
 
So do it. Or are you not as awesome as Welbog?
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Q: Stack Overflow's voting system is not entertaining enough

Welbo'clockI submit to you the following quartet of indisputable facts: Stack Overflow is for people who are bored at work. Having animations and video games are more exciting (and therefore less boring) than not having animations and video games. Chrono Trigger is the best video game ever made. Downvotin...

 
@PopularDemand Not a matter of awesomeness...more a matter of lack of time. Being a 1-man-band on a quartet of projects that should have a small team each that is rather behind schedule doesn't leave much time for the finer things in life...like burninating close votes
 
6:02 PM
"Yeah, about that: Stop making sock puppet accounts, @Peeyush. – mmyers♦ 1 hour ago" And the response: "@mmyers :-). yes i will :D – Peeyush 13 mins ago". Seriously?
I think the smiley is a bit much there, considering he was being reprimanded.
 
I feel compelled to ask, because I can: which smiley?
 
@PopularDemand Both? :-) and :D
@PopularDemand btw, that's a rather compelling reason
 
Just highlighting the fact that the guy responded to a sternly worded mod message with not one but two smileys.
 
@PopularDemand Haha, wow. I didn't even notice the first one somehow. I just saw the :D
 
Anonymous
@jadarnel27 Where's that comment from?
 
6:14 PM
@JeremyBanksʬʬʬ It's from here
Whoa. Awesome crazy w's there on your display name
 
Anonymous
@jadarnel27 It was an exciting character to find; a good way to call undeserved attention to myself in text-only listings. ;P
 
Anonymous
@jadarnel27 Jeeze, that user. People who draw attention to themselves after breaking the rules baffle me.
 
@JeremyBanksʬʬʬ I have defintely never seen it before =)
 
@JeremyBanksʬʬʬ I don't quite follow; wouldn't a non-text-like character draw more attention to you in text-only listings?
 
Oh, and I know. "Hey, I gamed the system to get a bunch of rep. But now it's all gone. What gives???"
 
Anonymous
6:22 PM
@PopularDemand This was the most memorable unicode-letter-character I think I've seen, at least which isn't already being used by somebody else.
 
6:41 PM
 
@Chris OMG. That is awesome. I wish I could send that to the customer I'm working with =)
Especially "Asset-preparation is part of your job"!
 
:)
 
@Chris Great, great article. One of my favorite lines: There’s no single design that suits all target platforms (not even on the web, without some degree of adaption and flexibility).
 
 
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Jin
7:56 PM
^ best use of FHRC imo
 
The Japanese place that serves chicken teriyaki at the mall food court at work has that same bottle of sriracha sauce...delicious.
 
@TimStone You work in a mall? =P
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No, there's just a mall conveniently close to my office. :P
 
I could see Tim working in a mall. Sitting at one of those kiosks in the middle of a ground-floor walkway, yelling out "Sir! I see you have an Android phone! Do you need any apps written? I can finish by the time you leave Nordstrom!"
 
8:13 PM
Wouldn't that be the life...sort of?
 
Well, obviously you'd be working on building up enough cash and getting enough seniority to move into the old KB Toys location on the second floor near Sears.
 
Man, WwF is word-blocking me at every turn
Of course, of course.
 
8:41 PM
@TimStone At one point in the past 48 hours, I had three active games, and in each one I was waiting for one specific tile so I could put down a >125-pt word. In all three games, the spot I needed was blocked before I got the tile, leaving me dozens of points behind. The moral of the story is: you're still going to beat me, so quiet yer whinin'.
 
About how long till most beta sites get their temp mods when a sort of consensus has been reached in-community?
 
8:57 PM
@BenBrocka Napalming the jungle. :D
 
lol
 
@Jin FreeHand Red Crayon? FreeHand Rooster sauCe? Federal Health Recommendation Conic solid? Food Helping Radioactive Covering?
 
I am wondering if this question is fit for re-opening, it has been edited.
 
 
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10:54 PM
has beer, considers Happy Hour a go
 
11:07 PM
I haven't seen anything exciting happen here during Happy Hour
 
Someone could get up on a table and start dancing, but I'm not volunteering for that.
 
Wait, you mean you guys aren't all constantly table-dancing when you're in the Tavern?
 
Of course not, I'm lazy.
 

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