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Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
1:07 AM
@Shog9 It would be nice if I got a date on when the new reopen inbox notification was implemented, so it can be edited into the changelog post.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
1:35 AM
Has there been any drama that I missed in the past week or two?
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
@TheforestofReinstateMonica A faucet that must be repaired
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
that's hard core
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
@TheforestofReinstateMonica A faucet that led to time travel
 
 
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The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
4:56 AM
> This question has an open bounty and can't be closed
If I see this for an off-topic question, what should I do? Flag it, or wait for the bounty to expire?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TheforestofReinstateMonica kinda depends on the mod who handles it
Is it horribly off topic?
Flagging is always a good idea
as is revenge close voting after the fact :D
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
Not "horribly", but it's a product request which is off-topic.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hm
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
1
Q: using HW random number generator as source of entropy

Martin VegterCurrently I am using haveged on my server as source of entropy. My Server is used as KVM hypervisor, to run virtual machines. I did not use haveged at the beginning, and I noticed the VMs were draining the entropy pool from the server. Sometimes, when VMs were started SSH waited for enough entr...

random entropy haveged
Already has one close vote. I couldn't add my own because it has a bounty.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ah
I'd almost consider that a bit of a grey area
So the best stratergy would be to wait and then close IMO
also
... serial ports? in 2019? 0_0
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
5:03 AM
Serial ports are still very useful.
I recently had to buy an RS-232 PCI expansion card.
They're great because they don't require any extra drivers and they're super reliable.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@TheforestofReinstateMonica I wouldn't rely on needing to have one on modern gear.
I have one on my DIY router, but that's cause strange chinese platform.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
Also, most modern USB hubs are security issues because it's a dual-simplex unicast bus, so USB slave -> master is confidential, but master -> slave is broadcast to all devices on that hub.
Like Ethernet over a true hub instead of a switch.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I might still have one of those....
a true hub
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
It's common for 10 Mbit Ethernet devices.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
that's what I use it for
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
5:08 AM
erm
half-duplex broadcast, not dual-simplex unicast
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
5:29 AM
@TheforestofReinstateMonica If it's severe, flag it; a moderator can clear and cancel the bounty so it can be closed
 
Feeds
Feeds
You graduated from coding bootcamp. Now what?
Ben Popper on November 12, 2019

This week on the podcast, we sit down with Jess Lee, one of the co-founders of Dev.To, a social network where programmers come to learn, chat, and share ideas with a community of other coders. She explains her strange journey from working as a tour manager for Kidz Bop to building one of the fastest growing and most progressive online platforms for software developers.

Paul and Sara chat about what language is best to choose as your first when you’re just getting started on your journey as a programmer. Probably not Mathmatica, but it’s a neat one. …

 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
5:49 AM
And... I just applied for an apartment
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
6:01 AM
@JourneymanGeek \o/ fingers crossed!
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
@JourneymanGeek I recently outfitted my computer with an IEEE 1394 (FireWire) card so I could import footage from my old DV tape camcorder
Had no other use for the conventional PCI port
Serial ports are also used to control things like projectors. It's how wall panels and dedicated computer software work
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
6:48 AM
Messy morning to all!
@user58 this time you're lucky to live so far north... ;)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hm
200
Q: Which browsers are officially supported, and what else do I need?

EarlzWhich browsers are officially supported by Stack Exchange? Also, what else is needed in order to use every feature of the site? Return to FAQ index

support faq user-interface browsers
SE dropped IE support
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
@JourneymanGeek That ends a long era of being able to use my Windows RT device on the site
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog It could still work
just not guarenteed
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
7:08 AM
0
Q: What new functionality was implemented that resulted in Internet Explorer 11 support being removed?

Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hogWhich browsers are officially supported, and what else do I need? previously contained the following words regarding Internet Explorer support: This browser is mostly supported on a “because it works” basis. Support may be dropped in the future, without notice, if new functionality is impleme...

support internet-explorer browsers internet-explorer-11
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@terdon-stopharmingMonica nope ;)
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
7:26 AM
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog Strictly speaking, even if it's not officially supported, it should render the site pretty well. SE doesn't rely so heavily on new web technology that it would be unusable with IE11. Hell, you could probably get IE6 to work decently, albeit without SVG.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica afaik, their CSS is the main thing that isn't cross browser, as they're using jQuery
So on older browsers, the site will just look funny.
They started using "fancy" CSS long ago, which sometimes isn't even supported by Edge.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
ouch
So much for "responsive" lol
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Responsive just means working on any screen size, not any browser.
(I think? That's just my common sense, didn't look in the definition itself)
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
Which is funny because I was told my screen size "wasn't supported".
And that I should just maximize my browser window if I want the site to work. :D
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica think it was more with zoom
Zoom still isn't supported.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
7:42 AM
No, I never use zoom.
And zoom shouldn't even need support. It's literally a function of the browser.
 
rene
rene
→ 34 messages moved to Chimney
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica oh wait... right! But why you work with non-maximized window? And how you expect websites to "support" it?
In theory responsive design should kick in, but not sure.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
I want it to "support"
it by not compressing
the text in questions or
answers to three or
four words per line.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica but that's exactly how responsive design should work.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
And I work with a non-maximized window because I use a tiling window manager.
I like to have more than one window open at once. I need my terminal.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
7:50 AM
Small screen = less vertical space
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
@ShadowThePrincessWizard No. Responsive design should not make the site unusable.
And I have plenty of vertical space. It's just all taken up by the sidebar etc.
In responsive design, the side bar would disappear if the screen is too small.
It would adjust itself to ensure it is still readable.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica it does disappear:
 
JAD
JAD
well, at some point you hit a lower bound on how small the website is willing to provide a design
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
That's the responsive view for mobiles
 
JAD
JAD
which is usually where small phones would end up being
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
7:54 AM
I'm not on a mobile.
@JAD That's the thing... They've created a problem that didn't exist before.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica me neither, I resized the browser window.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
Being able to view on small screens is something that browsers should handle.
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
@rene Wasn't there a news article about the Dutch government opining that Microsoft hates Linux or something?
 
JAD
JAD
and websites collectively decided that browsers didn't do that to their liking
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica sorry but I disagree. SE did and still doing many bad things, responsive design isn't one of them.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
7:56 AM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard It's an issue with modern web design culture, not SE specifically.
(Although they are doing it worse than average)
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Ah I see. That only happens if I make it really small.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@TheforestofReinstateMonica yup
Size does matter here.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
It's ironic. 10 years ago it wouldn't matter at all.
All websites supported (nearly) all sizes.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Good old times...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Yeah well... 10 years ago everything was better...
Morning ;)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
1 hour ago, by Shadow The Princess Wizard
Messy morning to all!
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
7:57 AM
When it comes to web design, it was. :P
 
JAD
JAD
at risk of getting horizontal scrollbars that is
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
Only if it used bad CSS or big images.
 
rene
rene
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog not sure but I have been invited (and attended) a few times to Microsoft sponsored events that promoted how good and well suited a Microsoft technology stack was for government bodies. One pf those events was after parliament declared all software used by govt. should be open source.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Messy? What have you been up to?
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
Nowadays websites are slow to load without fast internet connections. Web bloat is a big issue in networking in major datacenters (and to a lesser extent, browser vendors).
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
8:00 AM
@Tinkeringbell not me personally, but short version is that Israel took down two high ranked officers of a terror organization, and that terror organization is fighting back by firing rockets on Israel.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
(Lots of groups that one person calls a terrorist, others call freedom fighters)
What organization?
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine
The Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine (Arabic: حركة الجهاد الإسلامي في فلسطين‎, Harakat al-Jihād al-Islāmi fi Filastīn) known in the West as simply Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), is a Palestinian Islamist terrorist organization formed in 1981 whose objective is the destruction of the State of Israel and the establishment of a sovereign, Islamic Palestinian state. PIJ has been labelled a terrorist organisation by the United States, the European Union, the United Kingdom, Japan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Israel. Iran is a major financial supporter of the PIJ. Following the Israeli and...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Oh, oof! And it's not even on the news here :/
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
I wonder how many Palestinian civilians Israel will kill for revenge. :/
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Well, I hope everyone is safe!
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
8:01 AM
@Tinkeringbell it will be soon when things will escalate.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Maybe it won't? Can we still hope for that?
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
So far Israel isn't "burning the ground" in Gaza, but it will happen if Hamas joins the "party"... :/
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
That whole thing is just messy.
Makes me wish some of the childhood songs about world peace that I grew up with became true ;)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell exactly
 
Rob
Rob
Yes, the wonderful webpages of days gone by, and not so long ago.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
8:05 AM
@Tinkeringbell hehe well that' won't happen
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard I know. We can't even behave on the internet, so I shouldn't expect people to be able to do so in real life.
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
@Rob Hey, I didn't mean we should go back to the 90s. :P
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Nothing wrong with 90s.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
stealing @rene's private data from Azure
 
The forest of Reinstate Monica
The forest of Reinstate Monica
@Tinkeringbell Except for <blink>.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
8:07 AM
Nothing wrong with blinking. Keeps your eyes healthy.
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Apple seems to have no concern about breaking compatibility with older applications. Case in point: applications developed before 2001 can't be run on 2006+ Macs, <2006 apps can't be run on 2011+ Macs, and now <2009 apps (and some 2009+ ones) can't be run on 2019+ Macs.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Good for them... but Microsoft can't do the same.
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Whereas a Windows app developed in 1995 can (mostly) run perfectly fine on a 2019 Windows machine. (Might require a compatibility setting, but still.)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Banks and governments use XP and IE for crucial internal systems.
And upgrading those will cost billions, which nobody is willing to spend.
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
The only exception is 16-bit MS-DOS applications (<1995), but those can still be run on 32-bit Windows builds
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
8:17 AM
DOS Box?
 
rene
rene
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog most often because Raymond Chen has to do some of his magic.
 
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog
The game Hover!, developed by Microsoft in 1995, still runs perfectly under Windows 10 1903.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Game Hover is Over
 
user58
user58
8:54 AM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Just what I need the day before relatives start arriving in the county.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@user58 heh. Well, at least your area is safe. For now. :)
But if this goes on, Messi won't arrive... :/
Messy situation = No Messi
 
user58
user58
Is that that soccer guy?
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@user58 yeah, just a random guy who happens to know how to play soccer. :D
 
rene
rene
He is the Ronaldo of Argentine
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Well he canceled arrival before, due to massive pressure from BDS... this time they don't even need to pressure. lol
 
djsmiley2k - CoW
djsmiley2k - CoW
9:02 AM
At which point you go 'Who's Ronaldo, is he the McDonalds clown for Mexico?'
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Or you ask "The Brazillian one or the Portugese one?"
BDS?
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JourneymanGeek organization calling to boycott Israel, in short. Feel free to Google for more details...
Bottom line, they cause many famous people to not arrive here by various means.
 
JAD
JAD
@Tinkeringbell fyi, NOS has reported on it by now
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JAD Ah, that's better :)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Nederlandse Omroep Stichting?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
9:14 AM
Yep,
 
JAD
JAD
@ShadowThePrincessWizard kinda like the Dutch BBC, also government sponsored news outlet.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD nice
@Tinkeringbell yup that pretty much sums what's going on...
 
user58
user58
9:32 AM
...meanwhile, I've got a מיון for the army band on Sunday as a sound technician.... but I know next to nothing about being a sound technician.
 
mag
mag
technically you'd be making sound
:p
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@user58 so... how you got to that??
 
user58
user58
@ShadowThePrincessWizard They asked on a form how much experience you had in a bunch of different things. I said "less than a year" for sound and mixing, since I've done a few projects on my laptop that involved mixing different music tracks and recording instruments. I didn't expect them to call me up for it, TBH. Worst case scenario, they don't call me for a second interview. Not the end of the world.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@user58 ohh, right! Think you mentioned this before. Well, do you want such a "job" as your army service?
It's working for almost free, but still.... maybe better than some alternatives. No?
 
user58
user58
I'd davka be happy with a position involving the band, because I really like music.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
9:52 AM
@user58 nice! So you'll be with actual singers, who might get famous one day, if not famous already. :D
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@user58 TBH, the band sounds like one of the best places in the military to be...
(but I don't like militaries personally at all...)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
If you want to sing sing, don't shoot.
:P
 
mag
mag
plus, if you join the band, you get a cool bandana
</pun>
 
rene
rene
And it is not even midday yet ...
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@rene ?
 
rene
rene
10:02 AM
the bad puns ...
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
oh
 
JAD
JAD
it's always midday somewhere
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Not on the moon
 
djsmiley2k - CoW
djsmiley2k - CoW
hmmm
isn't it always midday, on the moon?
on the half facing the sun
at least on the ..... point most directly pointing to the sun
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@djsmiley2k-CoW go check and report back. ;)
waiting
 
JAD
JAD
10:17 AM
@djsmiley2k-CoW but that's not always the same side...
 
djsmiley2k - CoW
djsmiley2k - CoW
hmmm how are you defining mid day?
I've realised the Moon is occasionally in the earths shadow..
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@mag no bandana, but a cool hat!
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@djsmiley2k-CoW As the point where I eat lunch.
 
djsmiley2k - CoW
djsmiley2k - CoW
@Tinkeringbell /me feeds
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@djsmiley2k-CoW nah, I don't have the moon.
 
JAD
JAD
10:18 AM
isn't the moon tidally locked with earth?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@djsmiley2k-CoW At this point though, I guess mid day will be late ;) A coworker brought donuts to celebrate his birthday...
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD historical lock, yes.
We can't even flag the moon. :(
 
JAD
JAD
:(
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell donuts for lunch? That's nuts.
:D
 
rene
rene
@ShadowThePrincessWizard it was flagged a couple of times. It hasn't been taken down yet ...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
10:19 AM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Not for lunch, as a snack with coffee... though this one was sweet enough that it might last till dinner ;)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Also...
160
Q: Coworker asking me to not bring cakes due to self control issue. What should I do?

Shadow The Princess WizardSometimes I bring cakes to work, e.g. leftovers from birthday party to one of the family members. Most coworkers are happy about it and eat them without a problem, however one employee doesn't want to eat the cake, however finds himself eating it anyway due to lack of self control. Most of the ...

colleagues israel
Donuts can be considered kind of cake too.... ;)
@rene because God does not respond to flags. :(
@Tinkeringbell I have snack with coffee almost every day at 10 AM, it does not prevent me from eating lunch at 12. :D
@user58 any idea what font this is? The "ש" looks exactly like a power button.... :/
 
Hitodama
Hitodama
@ShadowThePrincessWizard bring a Carolina Reaper jam pie.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Hitodama to my workplace?
 
Hitodama
Hitodama
was a reply to the question above, sorry :P
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard I'm thinking of postponing lunch at least with 30 minutes ;)
This was a really big, sweet, donut :P
 
user58
user58
10:39 AM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard No idea.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
10:51 AM
@user58 :(
@Tinkeringbell yummy!
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Yes, and no... I have a massive sugar dip right now.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Reactive hypoglycemia
Reactive hypoglycemia, postprandial hypoglycemia, or sugar crash is a term describing recurrent episodes of symptomatic hypoglycemia occurring within four hours after a high carbohydrate meal in people with and without diabetes. The term is not necessarily a diagnosis since it requires an evaluation to determine the cause of the hypoglycemia.The condition is related to homeostatic systems utilised by the body to control the blood sugar level. It is described as a sense of tiredness, lethargy, irritation, or hangover, although the effects can be lessened if a lot of physical activity is undertaken...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Something like that ;)
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
ם_O
 
JNat
JNat
11:23 AM
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog Looks like there's nothing that needs my intervention there, at least at this point
@ShadowThePrincessWizard gone
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JNat thanks!
 
JNat
JNat
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog gone
 
Stop Harming Monica
Stop Harming Monica
12:10 PM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard ah yes, when I have to say "other" to "type 1 or type 2 diabetes?"
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@StopHarmingMonica hope you have neither of those?
@SmokeDetector k
 
Stop Harming Monica
Stop Harming Monica
@ShadowThePrincessWizard indeed, hence "other"
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Good. :)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
12:25 PM
There's a really great teamspirit haunting this place... the lights keep flickering on and off :|
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell dying neon?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard No, all the lights are just turning on and off, like we're losing power.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell ohh... this is pretty common here during winters, when it's windy. Power becomes unstable.
Usually it leads to blackout lasting anywhere between few minutes and few days.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Oh, it's not that bad here (yet)? :P
Usually power is very stable over here. If we have blackouts, it's because something serious happened to the grid.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Huh? Someone might need a coffee to wake up from stalker mode.... ;)
!!/coffee HerMajesty
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
12:32 PM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard brews a cup of Latte for @HerMajesty
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell well here due to not having lots of wind or winter, when it is windy and/or rainy... power goes out.
After a big storm few years ago, big parts of Israel were cut out of electricity for days.
It got worse when the electricity company employees went on a strike, refusing to fix broken things, because they were not used to work so hard.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Last big one I can remember that really made a big mess is one in Amsterdam a few years back, and most of the mess was trains not being able to ride either.
But IIRC even that one was 'fixed' the same day, though it took some time for all trains to start driving according to schedule again.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell nice... think in USA it's also not good and they have major blackouts without a good reason. @Sonic can probably shed more light about it? ;)
Its all about how the electricity company is being run, IMO, and where the money is being spent.
Here it's being spent on fat bonuses to management, who happens to be relatives of politicians, etc.
 
Bart
Bart
@Tinkeringbell as if trains ever drive according to schedule
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Bart Sometimes...
 
rene
rene
12:40 PM
the schedule is shifted 6 to 8 ...
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Most often not though, you're right. Yesterday morning I had three delayed trains, yesterday evening just one but it was delayed so much I missed the connection (arrive at the station at the same time to next one leaves).
 
Bart
Bart
Over here they apologize for things like a 2 minute delay.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
That's always a fun 30 minutes lost :(
@Bart Here they call you 'dear traveller' when your not travelling because you're waiting on your train
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell :(
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Yeah. Luckily the train usually arrives a lot early so you don't spend the entire 30 minutes being cold... but it's still no fun.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
12:43 PM
Here it's so bad that most people prefer to just have a car and be done with it.
So they spend extra time stuck in traffic jams, but at least they're not dependent on a broken system.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I was trying to get a company car... but at this rate, all the bureaucracy is making me think I'm better off taking trains anyways.
At least when I'm on a train I can read stuff, or crochet. Can't do that in a car.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell you can during traffic jams.... ;)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Meh, most of those are 'slow driving traffic' over here. You only rarely stand in the same spot for more than 30 seconds, unless some serious accident happens.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
:D
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
@ShadowThePrincessWizard meh ;)
 
David A
David A
12:49 PM
Call me contrarian, but I've often found better answers in comments than in answers.
 
Bart
Bart
@DavidA Hi Contrarian
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@DavidA Turn them into answers, flag the comments as no-longer-needed.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell what about buying your own car and have refund for the fuel? That's pretty common here.
@HerMajestyQueenofARC oh, hey! Welcome to the Tavern. Nice hat! ;)
 
JAD
JAD
@Tinkeringbell I had that this morning
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@ShadowThePrincessWizard I don't need a car. The reason to get one in the first place was the company wanting their employees to not say 'I'm not coming to this semi-mandatory team meeting because there's no trains that late in the evening back home'.
 
JAD
JAD
12:51 PM
took me an hour to get from amersfoort to hilversum
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD :(
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JAD oof. Sorry to hear that :(
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@Tinkeringbell oh... but what about weekends and holidays? Car can be useful to go, well, to far away places.... :)
 
JAD
JAD
in terms of time it takes to get to work, it's public transport == bike < car
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Thanks! On both accounts
 
Bart
Bart
12:52 PM
@JAD you can cycle faster than that ...
 
rene
rene
@JAD did you go walking?
 
mag
mag
@Tinkeringbell I would have a different reason for that
 
JAD
JAD
@Bart I do really. Usually I do that with a bike, and it takes me ~45-50 mins
 
mag
mag
As in my work day ends at 4.30 and if you're not paying x2 overtime I won't stay a minute past that
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@HerMajestyQueenofARC cheers x 2 :)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
12:53 PM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard It can... but at this point, I'd doubt I'd use it much. I don't have a lot to do on weekends/holidays anyways, and once I have my own apartment, the need to get away from people will be even less ;)
 
JAD
JAD
bus and train takes 40-45
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@mag Oh, that too. But that's for thinking, not saying out loud ;)
 
mag
mag
I'm usually quite honest
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD bike means motorbike, or bicycle?
 
JAD
JAD
@ShadowThePrincessWizard bicycle
 
mag
mag
12:54 PM
which tends to make my manager think 3 times before asking to stay late
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD oh... so time might be same but you also work hard and sweat a lot. :/
Unless you have showers at work, not a good idea...
 
JAD
JAD
@ShadowThePrincessWizard in other words, free workout
also, there are showers, but I haven't tried them yet
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD and coworkers never complained? ;)
 
mag
mag
sometimes people forget that work too is just a transaction and only 8 hours of my day are for sale at the usual rate
 
JAD
JAD
so far not :P
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
12:55 PM
So either you mask it well, or they're too afraid of you.... :D
 
mag
mag
there are ways to stop yourself from reeking at work when cycling there
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Deodorant?
 
JAD
JAD
not sweating
 
David A
David A
 
JAD
JAD
turns out if you don't sweat, you don't smell like sweat
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
12:57 PM
@JAD That's not human! ;)
@DavidA example of what? Your messages kind of got lost inside unrelated discussion here... :(
 
JAD
JAD
But the weather is getting colder, so less sweaty too
 
David A
David A
@ShadowThePrincessWizard That comment answers that question far better than anything else on the question.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD ahhh.... well not used to anything less than 25 degrees Celsius.
 
JAD
JAD
I only moved here this summer, so I haven't had much experience commuting in summer yet, although I did bring a clean shirt end of august
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD "here" means? And where were you before?
 
JAD
JAD
12:59 PM
@ShadowThePrincessWizard it's near 0 now when I leave in the morning
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD ouch. So yeah, can now see how you don't sweat... :)
 
JAD
JAD
@ShadowThePrincessWizard before I lived too far away to go by bike, so I commuted by train.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@JAD oh, but same country?
 
JAD
JAD
yea
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Looks like we have many people here from Netherlands... interesting. :D
@HerMajesty you also ride bikes to work? ;)
 
mag
mag
1:13 PM
cycling to work is a very nice thing
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
@ShadowThePrincessWizard Nope... I work from home.
Good side: I barely get out of the house. Bad side: I barely get out of the house.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@HerMajestyQueenofARC huh! Good for you. :)
@HerMajestyQueenofARC can totally understand....
Where's the hat from?
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Nowhere special... local store... just something to put on the head while photo shooting.
Somehow it ended up on my Twitter profile, because I didn't have any better photos around and I am stuck with the hat now ;)
If you see someone on the streets with the hat on, it is not me
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@HerMajestyQueenofARC you....gave it away?! :(
 
mag
mag
I'd like to work from home some day but I fear that between that and the new low cost delivery service of my grocer I would literally leave my apartment maybe once every 2 months
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
1:27 PM
No, it is sitting in my closet.
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@HerMajestyQueenofARC oh, so it's not with the hat on, it's someone with similar hat on. ;)
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Should have been "with any hat on"
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Anyway it really suits you well! :D
 
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Her Majesty Queen of ARC
Thanks!
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@mag You could increase your food intake :P You're strict enough about that that forcing yourself to increase it would also make you go out to burn the calories ;)
 
mag
mag
1:31 PM
@Tinkeringbell I'm very opportunistic about exercise. I like to exercise, but only if I can roll it into a greater purpose
example: making a day trip to frankfurt and cycling 85km instead of train, but only if I actually have to go to frankfurt. Or cycling 8km each day to work, but only because I have to go to work.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Hmm. Same here btw. I do my daily walking to/from the train station, or to/from the grocery store ;)
 
mag
mag
I adjust my food intake according to my needs, not the other way around
 
Nog Shine
Nog Shine
1:55 PM
"We are offline for maintanance."
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I hope they'll be able to fix you soon :)
 
Nog Shine
Nog Shine
Time to post a bug report and gain rep
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Go for it :)
 
Nog Shine
Nog Shine
It's back. :D
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
That's one good thing: These things never last long :)
 
Nog Shine
Nog Shine
2:05 PM
Generally I tend to check @stackstatus or tweet them to notify in maintenance issues.
 
mag
mag
@stackerstatus, an account for tweeting @stackstatus in case the stack's status isn't reported on stackstatus yet.
I heard you stack statuses
 
Nog Shine
Nog Shine
slackerstatus or stackerstatus? ;-) jk
 
mag
mag
stackeststatus
for the most stacked of statuses
 
202324
202324
2:39 PM
See, I told you altright was about to become third largest party in Spain. Wikipedia polls tend to nail the election outcome pretty precisely.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
2:54 PM
Heh. In the meantime, this country is getting upset because the max speed on highways will be reduced to 100 km/h
 
202324
202324
What for / why?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@202324 Something about reducing nitrogen gasses.
 
202324
202324
I've heard on TV, we all piss plastics. Eeeek.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I never noticed before, so I'm not going to be grossed out by it now ;)
 
JAD
JAD
@Tinkeringbell Poor VVD, no longer can they do vroom vroom
in other news, the change is completely irrelevant, the highways are jammed anyways
the idea of driving 100km/h is purely wishful thinking
 
mag
mag
3:08 PM
you wouldn't believe how nuts people go here against universal speed limits
 
rene
rene
I demand to be compensated for that 10 minutes longer in the car ....
 
JAD
JAD
@rene compensation is in lower fuel consumption :)
@mag slightly comparable with USA and guns?
 
Bart
Bart
@202324 add a heating element, and I could be a 3D printer.
2
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@JAD Yeah, there's very few pieces of highway where you're even allowed to go faster than 100 anyways.
 
mag
mag
@JAD come to think of it, yeah. A bit
I know people who never exceed 100 km/h on the highway yet are so staunchly against speed limits even at 150
 
JAD
JAD
3:12 PM
to be fair, it's a USP of the German Autobahn
cultural heritage
(although I understand that's a bad argument against change)
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Bart Sheesh... you're gross :P
 
mag
mag
@Tinkeringbell do you actually think that or is that a derpy-style trout message?
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@mag I'll leave you to guess ;)
 
mag
mag
because compared to the rest of the 'web this is downright professional chat :p
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Hey, I'm a mod. I can't really go and say 'I like your way of thinking there' :P
 
mag
mag
3:22 PM
you can, nobody will go "oh tinkerbell is so grossly incandescent she can't possibly be a mod"
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Meh, people do that anyway. Better not give them anymore reason ;)
 
JAD
JAD
@mag grossly incandescent?
I'm not sure that's what incandescent means
praise the sun
eh, whatever
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
3:38 PM
@Tinkeringbell hehe, my wife always try to teach me to not say "You're gross!" to our children, but rather "What you did is gross". ;)
 
rene
rene
gross
my wife always try to teach me ... I take that as the teaching failed so far?
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
@rene of course
 
rene
rene
lol
 
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Shadow The Princess Wizard
Tiger can wear a different skin, or something like that
Luckily for everyone, it's REALLY hard to gross me out. For example, my son eats whatever comes out his nose and I'm fine with that, for example. (wife much less so, so she has to work hard to follow her own advise.... ;))
 
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