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12:16 AM
erf. Just caught up with the scrollback
and I'm tempted to point out something, but... the conversation's done >_>
OH WELL.
@MetaAndrewT. aww
this I can probably safely opine on
that building a business, building a community and keeping a community running need different skillsets
and "I don't like the way this place is run" is rarely a great way to build a community
you need to work with love not hate, even if the hate seems justified
While SE was originally on the whole "anti experts exchange" thing, it was also " we like this model and can do better"
 
 
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2:09 AM
For no particular reason, I remembered this chart:
More specifically, the end of the curve:
Ah, blogs. On Carpetsmoker's site, Tired of Stack Overflow was quickly followed by It’s fine to be elitist, sometimes
> I came to the Go meetup to talk to fellow experts, not to be recruited as an (unpaid) teacher.
 
 
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4:01 AM
Ugggghhhhhh, very late morning.
Status: groggy
 
 
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7:07 AM
@MetaAndrewT. Happy Friday! :D
 
morning
I'll take this opportunity to express my daily deep hatred for EDI integration
 
Only if I can do the same, but for driving ;)
 
7:25 AM
I'm feeling lucky better now! Friday for all of you too!
 
 
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9:26 AM
@M.A.R. KK
 
10:15 AM
Released v2 of my autoflagger web app 2 days ago. Unlike v1, anyone can use v2 (only I was able to use v1 ;p) The url is autoflagger.os.sagarvd.me/home , built with Angular and hosted on firebase
Currently I log the SO user Id of the people sign in and the date time they sign in, in firebase database
Shall I make a log or used by people page to make the data public? Is there any restriction?
Currently the instructions are in home page itself. Shall I make it to a separated page faq
Hey @Cat is there a privacy restriction prevent me from making the user id and date time of the users public?
 
 
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11:59 AM
@OptimusPrime What users?
 
12:33 PM
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@OptimusPrime uhm....
 
@Catija I'm authenticating Stack Overflow users in my web application and I'm logging the user id of each users. Since I'm using the API, There must be some rules that I should follow.
 
"We dumb data from db" - you mean dump
 
My question is, is there a problem in disclosing it publicly?
 
@OptimusPrime might be a good question for MSE ._.
 
@JourneymanGeek forgot to edit that. At first, the text was We don't flag sh*t based on heuristics. (You dumb) data from db
Later edited the sh*t part but forgot to edit this one.
At first, I don't have any idea to make it available to public in near future. But then I spent few more hours and implemented it
The initial text was, just for me. and it doesn't contain any instruction or anything.
@JourneymanGeek shall I ask one there? or in Stack Apps?
 
12:39 PM
@OptimusPrime hm, I'm not familiar with stackapps
wherever you think people who need that info can find it more easily ;p
which is the whole point of this exercise.
 
actually stackapps is the place to ask questions related with api and report bugs.
 
Oh, I know what it is
but I'm not familiar enough to tell you if its a better place
 
1:01 PM
Apparently, in (Stack Overflow) Russia, a question asks you?
Got this ad on ruSO, which goes to its Ask Question page...
 
1:58 PM
@ShadowTheCoffeeWizard gone
@ShadowTheCoffeeWizard gone
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone and gone
 
2:14 PM
A security researcher released unpatched jailbreak for iOS
 
3:00 PM
I hate the new scrolling feature in ios13
it keeps activating while i'm reading shit
 
 
 
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5:56 PM
@MetaAndrewT. it could be worse
And yes, this is an advertisement for Ask Question button.
 
why the former employee got a network wide suspension for 5 years
Any idea @sha ?
 
@OptimusPrime They tweeted about it from their private account a while ago, but then deleted it
 
Oh. I didn't saw that.
 
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wE DON'T talk abOUT SUSPensions
 
We do. Sometimes.
without disclosing the identity
 
6:08 PM
Basically, SE sent him an email to the effect of, "if you say anything bad about Stack Exchange, your account will be terminated". He then tweeted a screenshot of his email from that account, with the tagline "This [expletive] company." Problem is, there were several SE employees with access to that account.
 
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Well in this case it's disclosed right away to anyone who knows anything.
 
I can't say for sure if that tweet resulted in the suspension, but what I do know is that it was deleted a short while later.
 
Can't say in that way coz there're lots of ex employees.
 
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Anyway, I'm disappointed that convertcase.net doesn't offer "random casing" option.
 
As far as his losing his employment with SE, he didn't resign or get fired for cause; he was just affected by the November 2017 mass layoff.
Given that he was previously suspended network-wide but local moderators lifted the suspensions per-site, I can also imagine SE telling moderators not to do that when this new suspension was applied.
 
6:36 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog you mean, that twitter account?
If that account is suspended for telling something bad about SE, I'm totally disappointed with it.
 
@MonicaCellio It appears your migration ended up glitching up: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333907/…
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog huh. Would've been nice if my migration had produced some sort of "tried that already" message.
Oh well; maybe someone will figure out what happened or maybe not. It's on hold on MSE, which is an acceptable state, so shrug.
 
6:52 PM
@MonicaCellio It redirects to a deleted question on MSO.
Moderators are exempt from migration redirecting; open it in a private window to verify.
@MonicaCellio I think the best remedy would be to ping an SO mod to ask them to reverse the deletion on MSO.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I don't think it's important enough to justify an MSE mod asking an SO mod to override the asker's deletion.
 
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@sonic if you follow SE folks on Twitter, could you maybe make a list of their accounts? The one I sometimes look at is twitter.com/jc4p/lists/stack but it's ancient
 
@410 The user in question's tweets are private
 
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Yeah, and not at SE anymore, so not about that user specifically.
 
With the caveat that I haven't really looked at the question in, uh, question... why remigrate? if the asker doesn't want it on MSO and it doesn't fit MSE, just close/delete it on MSE and call it good?
 
7:01 PM
Also the Roomba will do so automatically later, so I think that's the best outcome
 
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Close/delete is good. I would call it that.
 
@AdamLear It's a bug nonetheless. If a mod tries to migrate a question where it was already migrated to and rejected, they should be warned of this fact and/or it should create a new question on the destination site rather than re-associating it with the previous attempt.
 
@AdamLear I didn't notice it had already been migrated and rejected once when I migrated it. I saw a closed question that clearly belonged on MSO and decided to help the person out.
 
@rene Voted; needs 1 mor
 
@MonicaCellio Totally fair, just thinking out loud about what we could do now. :)
 
7:08 PM
@AdamLear can you confirm that it was the OP who deleted it there? Any other interactions with the OP there?
 
@MonicaCellio Yes; it says "this question was voluntarily removed by its author" there.
 
I wonder why I didn't see the "rejected migration" banner. I saw "closed by (user list)" so had no reason to suspect anything odd.
 
@MonicaCellio Confirmed, and no, no other interaction
 
@MonicaCellio That only shows up on the destination site.
 
@AdamLear do you think we should do anything? Nuke it now or just wait for the Roomba?
 
7:11 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog will ping @sha ...
 
It's locked on MSE, so it's not going to get edited and it can't really be made on-topic there.
 
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Locked posts are not Roomba'd either
 
@410 migrated posts are
@MonicaCellio Eh, either's fine I guess. Dunno why the user deleted it, but I guess we can keep it for now in case they decide to repost it organically
 
Migration stubs are deleted after 30 days.
And are locked by definition.
@AdamLear fine with me. My reaction to the whole thing is "meh".
 
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@Feeds drishing. Nothing is really a thing until there's an ugly portmanteau for it.
 
7:13 PM
@MonicaCellio yeah, same here really :)
 
@AdamLear What are ways to fix the overarching bug here (not just this specific case)?
 
status-deferred
 
@AdamLear Mind adding that tag to my question, please?
 
I mostly just mean that it's not an issue we'd likely be fixing right now at all. but I'll throw [status-review] on it for now
 
That's great; I needed another question to keep myself as the user with the highest number of questions :)
 
7:19 PM
we'll status-review your position ...
 
7:42 PM
SE is down. Apparently caching is to blame
 
Is it me or are most SE sites down? Only Meta.SE works for me ...
 
meh
 
VrijMiBo at SE-HQ
 
seems fine to me
 
Oh, now I'm logged out
 
7:58 PM
Meta ELL works for me
 
Works for me but the rep and inbox indicator shows notification for items which I've seen already
 
M&TV works for me
 
@OptimusPrime Mine isn't showing my recent upvote :/
 
in The Meta Room on Stack Overflow Chat, 4 hours ago, by M.A.R.
Even bugs are elitist now.
 
I got 30 rep change yesterday and saw 30 in green and 3 in red for inbox.
 
8:01 PM
maybe you just thought you looked at it
 
At least the reminders for happy hour still seem to be working ;)
 
For upvote thing, I upvoted both Sonic's and Glorfindel's answers to the delete content question. Let's see whether they got a notif or not @Sonic
 
@OptimusPrime I got a green one
 
@KevinB No. If it's unread, it'll have a different background color.
 
8:04 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I just upvoted it. no comments. So green one is okay
And in my profile (votes section), I can see that Month : 3, Week : 2, Day : 2. So it gets updated realtime
 
@OptimusPrime same here 30 minutes ago; I even posted a bug report but deleted it since it's behaving normal for me now.
 
@Glorfindel Hey, you're pingable again :)
 
I should post here more often.
 
Looks like the cache server felt lonely and needed some attention
 
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9:05 PM
Server's hierarchy of needs:
Basic: electricity, cooling,...
Security: well, obviously
Belongingness: working network connection
Self-actualization: Skynet
> Building communities where everyone who codes can learn and share their knowledge. twitter.com/stackoverflow
So... how do I follow/friend someone on Stack Overflow?
Having 10M fungible userNNN accounts does not look much like building a community.
 
@410 You don't! We eliminate that kind of Facebooky creepiness for an improved user experience!
am I the only one who loves this kind of literalness? youtube.com/watch?v=_pyJlERCrJE
 
9:52 PM
@AaronHall you're not alone ...
 
@rene yay... i belong
 
XD
 
 
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11:19 PM
Morning
 

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