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Meta Andrew T.

4:55 AM

Morning...

Woke up with a little flurry of upvotes from an answer on a question that I hoped get into HNQ.

rene

6:06 AM

→ 44 messages moved to Chimney

Marshmallow

8:23 AM

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Q: Is this guy trying to scam me?

I met a guy online and we FaceTimed and used Skype to make sure that we both were the people in the pictures. He’s from Estonia but lives in Alabama. He had to go home because his mom passed away but he says he wants to move to my home town when he comes back. He asked me to go look at a $500,000...

I mean, seriously?!

Tinkeringbell

8:37 AM

I wish strangers would buy a house for me :(

Mithrandir

I'll buy you a house, but it'll be about three feet tall and say "Barbie" on it.

Meta Andrew T.

House?

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Sounds good :D

As long as it has a kitchen and a bath :)

ShaWiz

9:22 AM

@Tinkeringbell parrots don't like bath

@Marshmallow nah.... I'm 10000% sure it's just a random troll.

Tinkeringbell

@ShaWiz I do like baths :)

ShaWiz

@Tinkeringbell so you're a fake parrot! :D

Tinkeringbell

And you're only figuring that out now?

ShaWiz

@Tinkeringbell I can buy you this house! ;)

Tinkeringbell

Ehh. No. That one comes with kids, apparently.

ShaWiz

9:25 AM

nah

I'm sure adults play with those too.

Same way many adults watch kids TV shows. ;)

Tinkeringbell

@ShaWiz It has baby beds, and a kids bunk bed... I don't want kids. I don't want a house that's built like kids live there :P

ShaWiz

lol

OK... you convinced me @Tink. Will buy you this house:

Tinkeringbell

Oh, that one is pretty :)

Lots of windows to clean though...

ShaWiz

You can rent a room to someone and use the money to hire someone to clean it all up every day. :D

Tinkeringbell

I guess if you have the money to buy that kind of house, you have the money to hire a cleaner without renting out rooms :P

Or you're really bad at managing your finances :P

Mithrandir

1:12 PM

...it's 32 degrees Celsius outside and I haven't had a drink in 12 and a half hours. Wheee.

ArtOfCode

1:32 PM

sounds like a good way to fall over from dehydration

Mithrandir

Yeah, but still another 3+ hours to go... fast days are fun.

Marshmallow

1:47 PM

41

ShaWiz

2:03 PM

42

oh wait you gave serious answer

how did that happen?!

:D

John Dvorak

16..25 and having just rained, so probably towards the lower end

ShaWiz

@Mithrandir why?? Is it a צום day? Or some medical check?

Mithrandir

@ShaWiz the former

ShaWiz

hmm

I'm not religious but do try to fast during Yom Kippur

Usually I'm able to hold 15 hours, then can't handle the headache anymore so get something to drink.

But I don't eat 25 hours.

And somehow I'm rarely hungry.

Mithrandir

Not eating for that long is the easy part, it's the no drinking that's hard.

ShaWiz

2:06 PM

True ^

Well I was able to do that when younger.

John Dvorak

...there's a rule that forbids one from drinking for 24 hours?

ShaWiz

Think that around 30 or so, headaches started.

@JohnDvorak kind of

Mithrandir

@JohnDvorak Only twice a year.

ShaWiz

God never really told us to do that afaik, it's something we do from our own free will to make up for our sins. @Mithrandir how wrong am I?

Mithrandir

There are several smaller ones sprinkled around the year, though - like today - that range from like 14 to 18 hours.

@ShaWiz Aside from YK, perfectly accurate

ShaWiz

2:08 PM

YK?

Mithrandir

Yom Kippur

ShaWiz

oh

So that day is actual Command from god?

oops

hiding

John Dvorak

I prefer the old ways, where to atone for your sins it would suffice to bring a cow to the temple and have it cooked for the communal dinner.

ShaWiz

@JohnDvorak we ran out of red cows so can't do that anymore

John Dvorak

No quails either?

ShaWiz

2:10 PM

Red heifer

The red heifer (Hebrew: פָרָה אֲדֻמָּה; para adumma), also known as the red cow, was a cow brought to the priests as a sacrifice according to the Torah, and its ashes were used for the ritual purification of Tum'at HaMet ("the impurity of the dead"), that is, an Israelite who had come into contact with a corpse. == Hebrew Bible (Torah) == === Book of Numbers === According to: "Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke". (Numbers 19:2) The Book of Numbers stipulates that the cow must be red in ...

John Dvorak

... and if you can't find a quail, I guess that a live turkey will do just fine.

We use chickens

Also a good choice

Lots of noise

> וְהָיְתָ֥ה לָכֶ֖ם לְחֻקַּ֣ת עוֹלָ֑ם בַּחֹ֣דֶשׁ הַ֠שְּׁבִיעִי בֶּֽעָשׂ֨וֹר לַחֹ֜דֶשׁ תְּעַנּ֣וּ אֶת־נַפְשֹֽׁתֵיכֶ֗ם וְכָל־מְלָאכָה֙ לֹ֣א תַעֲשׂ֔וּ הָֽאֶזְרָ֔ח וְהַגֵּ֖ר הַגָּ֥ר בְּתוֹכְכֶֽם׃
כִּֽי־בַיּ֥וֹם הַזֶּ֛ה יְכַפֵּ֥ר עֲלֵיכֶ֖ם לְטַהֵ֣ר אֶתְכֶ֑ם מִכֹּל֙ חַטֹּ֣אתֵיכֶ֔ם לִפְנֵ֥י יְהוָ֖ה תִּטְהָֽרוּ׃
שַׁבַּ֨ת שַׁבָּת֥וֹן הִיא֙ לָכֶ֔ם וְעִנִּיתֶ֖ם אֶת־נַפְשֹׁתֵיכֶ֑ם חֻקַּ֖ת עוֹלָֽם׃

ShaWiz

2:12 PM

@Mithrandir it does not say "don't eat or drink"

עינוי can also be beating with a stick.

No?

The Shabbat part is clear, but the part where we don't eat or drink isn't.

(for me.)

I never really bothered to look into it, just accepted it and doing it from respect to the place where I live, more then anything else. :)

(and it helps me to lose 1-2 kg so why not?? ;))

John Dvorak

I'm curious about the "no bathing" tradition. Doesn't being unclean trump being uncomfortable?

Mithrandir

That's not what "unclean" means.

Meta Andrew T.

2:31 PM

I voted to close as "unclean what you mean"...

ShaWiz

@JohnDvorak think we should not bathe during Saturday, but we can before... and after.

Rob

2:45 PM

So if today is 18 Tamuz 5779 (July 21) in NA and Israel what about New Zealand where it's a day later. Is it "Saturday" local time and date, or Saturday in Israel regardless of where you are?

Marshmallow

4:46 PM

@Mithrandir 32? Grow up Gandalf.

@ShaWiz Ha, no, I was testing the pharmacy's wireless keyboard. It was running out of battery.

Tabriz is 32 degrees on 9 p.m.

And those humid tropical thingies. Those are the worst.

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Q: Requesting gold tag for [slack] and [slack-api] due to low traffic

I have been maintaining two related tags regularly for about 3 years now and am the #1 top user on both. The tags are: slack-api slack We often get questions that are clearly duplicates and which I am trying to close. But due to the low traffic of these tags its hard to get enough votes. Many...

support dupehammer tag-badges

Ow come on, the guy has obviously not been [slack]ing off

That one is for you, @Magisch

I have to read the rest of your post before voting, but I stopped at the very first sentence in order to make this comment: stop with the “y’all” and “folks” already. It’s condescending, twee, and phony. It’s offputting. And it’s invaded the regulars of this network, especially employees, like a pandemic. I know it was done to solve a sticky problem in gendered language, but please, for the love of Atwood, find another solution! — Dan Bron 16 hours ago

Wha

First or maybe the second time I'm ever disagreeing with Dan.

TBH the y'all made me think it's Shog, not Mako. To.

It's weird how you can use Ma, Mac, Mako, Maggot and Makoto to refer to people.

One of those is different.

Meta Andrew T.

@Marshmallow basically this... especially when I read it on a little window of SE app...

Marshmallow

That's all, folks!

BBL dinner

Meta Andrew T.

BBQ dinner

Marshmallow

The symptoms are throwing out a whole month worth of effort.

Meta Andrew T.

5:02 PM

also, I thought SE was down for a moment, but apparently my Internet was down...

John Dvorak

Well, if you want to be off-put by the way I speak when I'm less formal, I guess there isn't much more I can do for you. Sorry to hear that, @DanBron. Let me know when you're ready to have a discussion. — Makoto 16 hours ago

I love that response

Meta Andrew T.

Makoto for CM.

Tinkeringbell

Ugh. Toddlers...

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John Dvorak

If we're about to pick mods purely based on their language quirks, I'll take Makoto any day - and add a couple singular-theyists into the mix. Be sure to keep all the u-folks far from the mix. Avoid those who have their queries to us sirs about how to match alphabets in jQuery regex or in JavaScript.

Mithrandir

5:19 PM

@Tinkeringbell I can't tell if this is related to the discussion above or a completely unrelated comment.

Meta Andrew T.

Perhaps something something Barbie house something...

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Yes

Mithrandir

Fair enough.

Magisch

5:45 PM

@Marshmallow but I like y'all

Marshmallow

@JohnDvorak ur being unfair

@JohnDvorak kindly sir, according to me I've grown quiet fond of this internet-speak.

Mithrandir

...ouch.

Marshmallow

@Mithrandir I always tries to fits "dear" in the equation but it never happen with out rude.

John Dvorak

Fond n. - 2. Brown residue in pans from cooking meats and vegetables.

Marshmallow

@JohnDvorak no :- I mean it different in dis contest.

lol, now that dog's bullocks punctuation I can't ever get enough of.

Mind you, I'm usually in a very grumpy mood about these things.

But I think I'm drunk now. With tuna fish.

Mithrandir

6:00 PM

Marshmallow

@Mithrandir kindly prove context sir .i cant see image

Oh keeps getting better and better.

Rob

Looks like it was going to be a pick 👃⛏️

John Dvorak

speaking of picks, I think I have a new "haters gonna hate" gif, media.giphy.com/media/CaNTnWzl0CU0M/giphy.gif

ArtOfCode

6:31 PM

@Marshmallow I hereby declare such terrible internetspeak to be outlawed in this room, and its proponents to be kicked :P

Catija

@JohnDvorak Does make me wonder if Dan would prefer us to use thee/thou for second person singular and reserve you for second person plural.

John Dvorak

I vote for a compromise: thee/thou for the singular, and y'all for the plural

Catija

Though... if you think "y'all" is silly... I'd imagine most people would think "What dost thou think about it, Dan?" would be ... even sillier.

Tinkeringbell

y'all takes some getting used to... It certainly sounds very informal, almost... There's certain things that, if you consistently do them in Dutch, give the impression that you're uneducated, can't speak proper Dutch. I get that same feeling when I read 'y'all' :/

ArtOfCode

Oh, if we're going Aulde Englishe, I'll gladly knock the silliness up a few levels

"Pray divulge to us thine opinion, Daniel"

Catija

6:47 PM

Y'all is... an easy, understandable way to unambiguously say that "you" is plural. I do it both intentionally so that people don't feel like I'm targeting them specifically but also because... well... I'm a Texan and it's just how I talk.

Marshmallow

@Catija He's too level-headed for those comments, so I'm thinking he's having a bad day.

@ArtOfCode Hey, I have a redeem code. FreedomOfSpeech

ArtOfCode

@Marshmallow anti-code: PrivatePlatform

or, alternatively, NotTheGovernment

Marshmallow

7:04 PM

YouCheat. IThreatenToUseContactUs.

ArtOfCode

insert abuse of power here

Marshmallow

Doi. Threatens to write a blog post, links to "Why I hate Scat Overplow"

Magisch

I've used y'all a lot because it feels more collegial and friendly then for instance "people" while also being the lazy choice for when you don't want to type out multiple pronouns or don't know exactly who you're talking to

Mithrandir

@ArtOfCode I'm afraid it's already been inserted here.

ArtOfCode

@Mithrandir no that's where the dragons are, not the mod abuse

the mod abuse is somewhere over here

Marshmallow

7:12 PM

WTH.

Magisch

Wasn't there that meta thread calling you all kinds of names for deleting comments

Marshmallow

You're not even a frequent Taverner, ArtOfSlacking.

@Magisch There was? Whereisitwhereisitwhereisit

ArtOfCode

@Magisch that implies there was only one of them

Magisch

@ArtOfCode one that I can remember on the back of my head

Marshmallow

@ArtOfCode I can't see your avatar now. Is it still fractals?

ArtOfCode

7:14 PM

@Marshmallow probably this one

Marshmallow

Nah, that's boring. You're boring.

Except the loser. Khkhkh

ArtOfCode

I know right? Doing my job properly... honestly, the nerve of it

Magisch

even got that italics name

can you believe this guy

Marshmallow

I prefer my name not to be squished under piles of Smokey messages.

Seriously though, that's achetypal. It's not even a high quality rant.

Do you have something less boring, and more exceptional?

ArtOfCode

hate to break it to you, but most rants aren't high quality

Marshmallow

7:19 PM

My favorites are those from meta.SO that go something like "<mod name> is a loser and a #%^$ and stupid and . . ." and all the editors do is "a moderator is a loser and a #%^$ and stupid and . . ."

@ArtOfCode well I dunno, probably peeps on Hardwarewrecks.SE are cool-headed. But you already know how fun the SciFi drama can get.

Mithrandir

> "fun"

Marshmallow

That's a "'"double quote quote"'"

John Dvorak

FUN with all the endless circus clowns, cotton candy and stuff?

Marshmallow

As a prolific rant reader, I sometimes reflect on how meta rants can be a good approximation of what the user base of a site feels like.

@JohnDvorak You bet.

John Dvorak

Pro-tip: cotton candy makes for terrible warhammers

Marshmallow

7:23 PM

Sites on topics that attract the more immature audience get more immature rants, for example.

@JohnDvorak If you hit hard enough it won't matter.

P.S. it's probably conductive like Mjolnir.

Mithrandir

@JohnDvorak Or great ones, depending on your perspective.

Marshmallow

@Mithrandir They're warhammers not lovehammers. That came out wrong. I mean, you're Gandalf not Radagast.

John Dvorak

That's right. Cotton candy warhammers can create a great show for the satisfaction of perp's victims without having the perp die and cause grief to their relatives.

Marshmallow

And they can stop Ragnarok.

If you just give Surtur some candy he'll be less vindictive.

Catija

Cotton candy war hammers put you in a sugar stupor, not a coma.

John Dvorak

7:29 PM

Now, a T-shirt made of cotton candy, that is a thing that you want

Catija

Not if it's raining...

rene

images ...

John Dvorak

but really, the quest for cotton candy is an excellent way to get your boatmurdered.

Mandatory reading for those who don't know what "boatmurdered" is: youtube.com/watch?v=ZKe_kzxp_1g

Marshmallow

7:49 PM

Primex? Huh. Not clicking on that.

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Q: I'm at a [loss] for words

loss No excerpt or wiki. 298 questions. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? Describes a general "loss" in most cases. Lost settings, values, tips, etc. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site? Too generic a concep...

discussion tags burninate-request

> Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied?

Definitely.

> Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

Maybe not but it's applicable to most of the questions on the site.

Wow, hang on. I have 51 downvotes on Stack Overflow but I have no idea what they're for. I'm not a programmer . . .

And I never vote on something when I land on it from meta.

Maybe it was pushing spam off the then front page?

Journeyman Geek

11:46 PM

Morning

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