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12:35 AM
~ A few more hours and this room will be frozen ...
 
 
2 hours later…
2:35 AM
~ Cyborg 2: Glass Shadow
 
 
1 hour later…
3:59 AM
Hai
 
 
2 hours later…
user312109
6:27 AM
here and I don't know how to isolate those particular mod messages out of the inbox?
 
user312109
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog
 
@Muze Wrong room, this is the right one
 
7:02 AM
@rahuldottech hey! So you tried Red Bull?
Huh. I am impressed. Sonic posted a direct link, yet the other user somehow ended up here. Kudos.
sigh
 
 
1 hour later…
8:05 AM
~ Where is everybody!?!
 
8:20 AM
@KennyBOT ?
 
8:35 AM
Also... @ShadowWizard: Happy World Toilet Day! :D
 
Woo hoo! Finally my favorite place has a day of its own! :P
 
@ShadowWizard H00mans
 
No associated word found for H00mans.
 
@Shree Kenny posts dead room messages like that every hour after there's no human messages. It doubles itself though, so first 1 then 2 then 4... you get the idea. They're random
 
@PrincessLuna yeah they are random movie names, using API, and if the API fails it has a fallback to plain messages like that one.
 
8:43 AM
What @sha said ^
 
@ShadowWizard FREE PINGZ ;P
 
Doubt if @Shree love pings? ;)
 
I know the Wizard of the @shadow s love pings x3
 
@Dro How was the interview ?
 
8:45 AM
:D
 
@TheLittleNaruto they are asking me for client round now. But, I don't want to join Tech Mahindra
 
@DroidDev I knew that, these service based company nowadays started doing dirty works, like sending to client location.
 
@DroidDev why not?
 
@TheLittleNaruto yeah, but I'll be on parole of Tech. M only
 
btw my last Ex is sent to Microsoft from IBM @Dro
 
8:47 AM
@Shree :P
 
@ShadowWizard well, the kind of interview that I prepared for, they didn't take that kind of interview. Which in turn means, that the kind of work I wanna do, they won't be having.
 
@Shree No visit to the den is complete without pings xD
 
@TheLittleNaruto so you are saying, I should try Tech. M?
 
@DroidDev The Bellandur location and she is telling it is looking like shopping mall.
 
@DroidDev oh. Too bad. :(
 
8:47 AM
@TheLittleNaruto lol, yeah. What field she's in?
 
@DroidDev Nope! Try for MS directly ^^
@DroidDev Android
 
@TheLittleNaruto oh....yeah man. Can you ask what kind of preparation she did for that? I mean, if you guys still are on talking terms
 
@DroidDev She is working for IBM dude! She is sent to MS from IBM. She ain't working for MS
She is not that good at algo and shit
 
@TheLittleNaruto As in Microsoft?
 
@PrincessLuna Yea
 
8:49 AM
@TheLittleNaruto oh....ok ok. That place looks like a damn shopping mall only man
 
@DroidDev It does.
 
@TheLittleNaruto its in front of my home. So near, but so far
 
@TheLittleNaruto Did you see that MS postponed the 1809 release again, and pushed it by a year? MS doesn't seem like a good place to work when they can't even patch their own software xd
 
@DroidDev BTW if you're trying for MS-Android team, they don't ask any algo, they'll focus on Android internals, like how can you make asynctask on your own etc.
@PrincessLuna hehe! You should come and see the infrastructure and there will be chances you will forget about all these patches
 
@TheLittleNaruto Y'mean the patches that basically ruined entire computers?
 
8:53 AM
Win some, lose some.
 
@TheLittleNaruto That also broke drivers? Would't surprise me if the Windows devs actually use Linux xD
 
If few computers have to be sacrificed for the better of all other millions of computers, so be it! :D
 
@TheLittleNaruto When computers break, that's not something infrastructure can make me forget
I don't have 1809, but Windows 10 broke a TON of stuff
 
In the past, people sacrificed other people. Then lambs. Now it's computers. ;)
 
8:55 AM
Including, but not limited to, external microphones, NVIDIA driver updates, bluetooth, I can't even use Ethernet anymore xd
There's a chance I can use it after I reboot, but most of the time it just doesn't work
Says the device stopped working xd
Had Ubuntu installed for a while alongside windows (uninstalled that a while ago though), ethernet worked perfectly fine there
NVIDIA drivers were hell there too though
Different kind of hell though, especially with two GPUs
 
@PrincessLuna And the HELLL MONEYZ!
 
!!blame breaking @Princess computer
 
@ShadowWizard blames @Maveňツ for breaking @Princess computer
 
hehe lol
 
@TheLittleNaruto Work at Google instead
 
8:58 AM
@PrincessLuna Hmm
 
@PrincessLuna They won't hire you if you're privacy-oriented.
 
Oof xd
 
kicks @PrincessLuna for being so choosy about OS
@Fabby lol
 
@TheLittleNaruto Fite m3 m8
 
kicks @TheLittleNaruto for kicking @PrincessLuna
 
9:00 AM
pulls out shotgun @TheLittleNaruto Don't bring boots to a gunfight!!
 
@PrincessLuna You really want to fight ? XD
 
@TheLittleNaruto I'll kick your ass :3
 
@ShadowWizard You're really a wizard for @PrincessLuna
 
I had the perfect CV for a role at them and I was asked: Why don't you have a FB account, why do you use startpage, ...
 
@PrincessLuna Then what will happen to your ass ? Did you even bother to think about it ? :D
 
9:02 AM
>>cat {{randomchoice kicking licking killing poking}} {{ping {{randomchoice Shree Pandya Fabby}}}}
 
@ShadowWizard kicking @Fabby
 
@Fabby And............... End of the story
 
Nicely done.
@TheLittleNaruto thanks
 
@ShadowWizard merciful (?)
 
@TheLittleNaruto I don't need to worry :3
@Fabby damn...
 
9:06 AM
@PrincessLuna Guess then we have to fight :D
kicks @ShadowWizard outta universe
I don't want him to interrupt in between the fight
 
casting Shield on @PrincessLuna from outside the universe
 
It is what it is: they don't want any privacy nuts working for them...
 
Makes sense, such nuts can cause them lots of trouble. ;)
 
@Fabby meh. Kinda a crappy policy though
 
@ShadowWizard XD
 
9:08 AM
@ShadowWizard :D You bet!
(It was as Data Centre Manager though; not much privacy needed there)
 
See Facebook for example... if it wasn't for inside info, those things they did would have never been exposed.
So their filtering wasn't enough, obviously. ;)
 
If you're not paying for something, you are the product.
(unless in FLOSS)
 
Wikipedia?
 
@ShadowWizard you mean the leaks?
 
@ShadowWizard Thinking... They run donation ads.
 
9:11 AM
That was necessary though.
 
@PrincessLuna in Facebook? Yeah
@Fabby most of the visitors never pay
 
@ShadowWizard OK: Add Wikipedia to the list.
 
@TheLittleNaruto Great! Meet me at noon in <insert some western-themed town here>
 
@ShadowWizard Hey, you think quicker than me!
 
9:12 AM
@Fabby Only thing he is good at. :P
 
@ShadowWizard Can't believe they didn't post that in the first place
@ShadowWizard there we go :D
 
@ShadowWizard Yeah fine by me @Pri
 
@TheLittleNaruto hey! I'm not always quick. I'm sometimes also... s.... l.... o..... falls asleep
 
xD
@ShadowWizard throws you out of your bed using meta magic WAKE UP!!!
 
9:13 AM
Every time I read an article about FaceBook, I grin and go "Luckily I gave up on them years ago" so I'm never affected.
 
I don't care about my own privacy so much, I do care about how evil they became.
 
I kinda want to quit FB, but Idk
 
Affecting elections... bribe... and what not.
 
@ShadowWizard I care about privacy from 3rd parties. That's why I use three ad/tracker blockers, where one auto-blocks trackers the rest don't catch. The leaks are a big deal though, there's a lot of personal data out there
 
@ShadowWizard Using your posts to rank you as a criminal.
 
9:16 AM
Well, many big sites have privacy leaks. What matters is the way they deal with it.
 
(The FBI was an early investor in FB and used to have an office in their building)
 
@Fabby you mean ban accounts due to some blacklisted words being used?
 
@PrincessLuna I block all cookies, except for the sites that I want to have cookies.
@ShadowWizard No, I mean: give all data to the FBI who has free reign with everything.
(one of the Snowden revelations)
That's when I decided to get out.
 
@Fabby oh. Well. Personally I do think the end justifies the means, on this one. If this helps put real criminals behind bars, go for it. Trouble is when you can't trust the FBI, and I don't think we reached this point. Yet.
 
After a year or so FB decided to undelete my account, so I had to delete it again.
 
9:20 AM
huh. lol
 
@Fabby I block all tracking ones.
 
@ShadowWizard I Used to be in security: Trust no one!
 
I don't. :)
 
:-)
 
@Fabby Can't even trust operating systems to be stable xd
 
9:25 AM
@PrincessLuna Yes you can: Debian is rock stable.
 
I suspect you overloaded your poor computer with so much things it just collapsed... ;)
 
That's why we need new computers every couple of years. With Linux, you only need a new computer after it has actually broken down.
 
@Fabby I can't change to it though
 
With Windows you need a new one because it has gotten too slow fort all the new "features"
 
@ShadowWizard I have over 400GB remaining IIRC
 
9:27 AM
@PrincessLuna I still run a dual-boot bcause there are no kernel drivers for my keyboard backlights yet.
Once that happens, parted --delete /dev/sda
 
@PrincessLuna hard disk is the least of what worries me. RAM is crucial... processor, etc. :)
 
@Fabby I uninstalled mine. Ubuntu overwrote the bootloader xd
 
After working for 8 months, today only I came to know, that we have a online library from where we can order a book for free and it'll get delivered to my workstation. :O
 
@PrincessLuna Nowadays with UEFI that doesn't happen any more
 
@Fabby Wrong
 
9:29 AM
@PrincessLuna quixote (?)
 
(unless you install ubuntu in MBR mode and W10 in UEFI mode: then it's still possible)
 
I have UEFI, and it still overwrote the /boot and /windows bootloaders with GRUB
 
(but then: you overwrite the boot loader, Ubuntu is just the tool you used)
 
@Fabby I never asked for every single bootloader to be changed
I wanted an extra one, not three that point to one
I had to create a recovery disk to fix the screw-up
 
@PrincessLuna Well, I have REFInd as my boot loader and Windows, Grub, ... are its little helpers.
If i want, I can drop to an EFI shell and correct anything myself manually: rock stable.
 
9:32 AM
But the reason I can't change to Linux is because of Nvidia Optimus. Linux is horrible with systems like that
 
@PrincessLuna 2 GPUs or one?
 
@Fabby Ubuntu overwrote it :upside_down:
@Fabby two. Intel and Nvidia
 
@PrincessLuna That works nowadays. When was the last time you tried?
 
2-3 months ago
 
mmmh...
What's your nVidia HW?
 
9:34 AM
GTX 950M
 
And you don't have an HP?
 
That should work...
 
Should but didn't
 
Did you go to Ask Ubuntu for help?
 
9:35 AM
Ask Fabby is better! :P
 
@ShadowWizard I'm going to switch away from Ubuntu...
Manjaro with KDE Plasma will be next: No more major upgrades ever!
 
Couldn't use the NVIDIA GPU, so I needed a different package but that didn't work without the unofficial driver which every guide said needed bumblebee, but bumblebee was broken so I ended up removing it, but even after that when I managed to switch, it didn't work
 
@Fab what you think about Red Hat being bought by IBM? Good or bad?
 
@ShadowWizard Good or bad for what? The product or the people?
 
Quite simply didn't work. Tried playing Minecraft just because, idk, why not? It didn't work on the NVIDIA GPU. It booted with the Intel GPU
 
9:37 AM
@Fabby for us, the common people. :)
 
@PrincessLuna Yeah, that's the trouble with bumblebee: you always have to specify which.
I'm just always running on nVidia and screw the batery life.
 
I tried the guide on askubuntu for installing Nvidia drivers, but that didn't go too good xd
 
@ShadowWizard I'm afraid: IBM is a big organisation with a long decision-making process
 
I had to uninstall bumblebee and rely on Primus (I think that was it anyways xd)
 
@ShadowWizard RH will be less nimble.
@PrincessLuna I know an expert on AU on that stuff.
He could make it work just the way you like it.
 
9:40 AM
I uninstalled it though
The OS*
 
:D I got that!
 
I'm planning on getting a new computer too, so I'm not gonna bother re-installing it. Dunno if I'm ever gonna mess with stuff like that again
 
@PrincessLuna Sad to hear that... You should try again after taking a full CloneZilla Backup
 
@TheLittleNaruto so, you have any idea, like if I want to study about that, then any site related to it or something?
 
@Fabby so it's not just me who thinks big companies should not get a hold of major open source projects?
 
9:41 AM
because, as I see it, I'll have to prepare for that as well @TheLittleNaruto
 
At least not on an Optimus system
 
@PrincessLuna And you should ask for help: don't forget you're a N00b when it comes to Linux
@ShadowWizard It depends: if they keep it as a separate Business Unit with its own management, I don't have a problem
 
@Fabby I spent hours on google. Found a bunch of outdated answers most of the time. Had to guess pretty much everything. I got relatively far though
But Nvidia drivers killed it xd
 
@ShadowWizard (E.G. Micro$oft bought GitHub to be able to pour money in it so they can use it for W10 source control)
@PrincessLuna You forgot one thing: Ask a question on AU
 
@Fabby wait, is that why they bought it? xd
 
9:44 AM
@DroidDev Well we have to know the internal implementations of some API present in Android. you can check source code in googlesource. Also if possible , in your app make your own FileProvoder with custom URI, it'll help you to understand how does FileProviders work
 
@PrincessLuna We get so many dumb questions that a smart question gets a lot of attention!
 
@Fabby You forgot one thing: it'd be closed as a dupe with the 'use a bounty' message
 
@PrincessLuna if the dupe helps you: good thing. if it doesn't: edit.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I've seen stats on SO. Editing rarely helps. If there is a dupe, I'll find it. If it doesn't help, I'm fucked
Don't have enough rep to offer bounties on AU
 
Same is with ContentProviders, if you'll understand working of these, you might come up with your own Room library @Dro
 
9:47 AM
@PrincessLuna But you have people you know and you have access to chat...
Hungry! Need food!
 
@Fabby I asked a question in chat once. Beyond that, I don't like bothering people
Especially when most of it is documented already
 
Dual NIC, GPU, HD, ... is complex...
 
Yep
Network drivers were install and play though
Same with Bluetooth
 
@TheLittleNaruto that's true. If I make sample projects about anything, I'll learn about it. But, is there a site, just like we practice data structures, where we can go and practice various concepts of android
 
And just about every driver except the GPU stuff xd
 
9:51 AM
@Dro product based companies generally avoid using any open source because of few reasons:
1. They have to undergo a licence process of the open source used.
2. They can't rely on open source, because development of these may stop at any time, we never know.

That's why they see if in such case, the developer they are going to hire can come up with thier own set of library or not.
@DroidDev No idea! And I doubt there would be any, because it would be very requirement specific.
 
@TheLittleNaruto hmm....I'll check
 
@PrincessLuna try Broadcom... Nightmare!
FOOD!
 
Soundblaster cinema and killer network drivers both died xd
 
@Fabby even if they do, who knows for how long it will be kept like this?
 
I still have audio though
But Win10 killed a lot of the OEM stuff
Which is why I'm planning on getting a new computer
 
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