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Journeyman Geek

11:00 AM

A lot of folks who hold opposing viewpoints might care as passionately as you do.

Martin James

@JourneymanGeek On meta, there is always opposition.

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames hmm'

"Us vs them" vs "A contest of ideas"

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName Not everyone is as capable of filtering their words ;) Opinions are opinions, and although it helps if they're expressed nicely, they're just opinions in the end ;)

Martin James

I mean, the opposition might be right, but it's always there:)

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell and sometimes folks with poor filters can be a good source of.. unvarnished truth

just need to powerwash off the guano ;)

Tinkeringbell

11:01 AM

@MartinJames More of a spectrum than a left-right thing I guess :P

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames or see it as "there's our side - folks who care about $site" vs...

I don't even know ;)

Spammers? ;p

Magisch

People who have a different idea of what caring means in this context

Somewhat Memorable Name

I'm thinking more of users like.... Evan

Magisch

If someone's arguing on meta, they clearly and obviously care at least a bit

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName Oh I can think of a few folks like that

Tinkeringbell

11:03 AM

@Magisch Yeah.. never tell someone on meta 'don't worry' :P

Journeyman Geek

didn't see the point in naming and ~~potentially summoning~~ shaming.

Martin James

@JourneymanGeek Meta is a temple to truth

Magisch

hopes he's not on that list

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames I consider it a marketplace of opinions.

And sometimes I'm selling. Sometimes I'm buying

Martin James

@JourneymanGeek More af a car-boot sale.

Tinkeringbell

11:05 AM

I don't think you'll ever reach 'truth' on meta :P

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames and every now and then, the crappy little trinket you picked up for a 5ver is a bloody original faberge ;)

Magisch

Meta is murder, after all

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch and proof anyone can be horribly wrong ;)

Martin James

@JourneymanGeek Do they have car-boot sales in oil sheikdoms?

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Meh... I don't think that's true either.

Journeyman Geek

11:06 AM

@MartinJames never been to one.

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell I was quoting a famous blog post

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Well, it isn't famous enough: I don't recall reading it :P

Martin James

Coms to think if it, do they have car-trunk sales in 'murrica?

Tinkeringbell

@MartinJames I'm pretty sure I've seen some on tv

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames for some reason I'm thinking EEVblog Dave and dodgy speakers

Magisch

11:07 AM

@Tinkeringbell blog.codinghorror.com/meta-is-murder

9 years old now

Somewhat Memorable Name

Compared to UserVoice? Meta is Murder.

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Hahaha okay that was a good read ;)

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell Jeff's blogs are actually pretty well written

Tinkeringbell

I thought you meant murder in the sense of 'downvotes, close-votes, deletions and nasty comments' ;)

Journeyman Geek

and a darned useful way to get insight into the decisions made, and changed into the early days of SE

Tinkeringbell

11:14 AM

Well... I don't have time to read all of them right away :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Excuses!

Tinkeringbell

I've finished my ice cream, lunch break is over, I should probably start compiling code again :P

Journeyman Geek

(naw, I just remember a handful so I look smart and erdutite)

rene

@Tinkeringbell I would leave that to the compiler. Have another ice cream ...

Shadow Wizard

ice cream?! Are you cheating on me with others, @rene? :D

Somewhat Memorable Name

11:16 AM

please start compiling the code as soon as possible so you can continue reading that blog, or just chatting with us ;p

Shadow Wizard

Oh wait, it's not that ice cream. All good!

rene

right, I guess I was OK

Tinkeringbell

@rene I don't think I can sneak out of this open floor plan office that easily :P

But yeah, the compiler is running

Magisch

Sadly my code compiles instantly

so I don't have an excuse

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Nothing goes instantly here :( I'm working with emacs and some proprietary language (magik). I need to compile, start sessions... I don't even have autocomplete or spellcheck warnings :(

Magisch

11:19 AM

we recently even bought a new server to make the latex compiling faster

a behemoth 25 page delivery note report compiles including barcodes in 2s now

That is with dev debugging enabled

Tinkeringbell

Most fun? I have to work on a server, and the connection fails at least 5 times a day

Which means I have to log in again...

JNat

@ShadowWizard meh, the "about me" is really supposed to be the one place where you can write pretty much what you want ("be nice" policy still needs to be observed, obviously), so... not inclined to do delete. What I've done in the past in these clear cases, though, is just clear their "about me," so I'll do that

Shadow Wizard

@JNat heh, smart.... thanks!

Poor spammer.... ;)

rene

@JNat sorry to bother you but would you mind checking if a dev or an SRE is aware / working on this bug. It is about to be closed as a duplicate which I think is wrong but that might cause it goes unnoticed.

for 6 to 8 weeks ...

JNat

@rene I pinged people ;)

rene

11:32 AM

awesome, thanks

Magisch

Just a Naturally occuring conversation here

Shadow Wizard

@rene why SRE?

rene

@ShadowWizard maybe a sql query / batch that is timing out?

that needs no dev, just someone kicking hardware / config

Shadow Wizard

@rene so why not pinging @bluefeet about it?

rene

I reckoned they are still a sleep?

Shadow Wizard

11:36 AM

But she'll see the ping when waking up... ;)

(no need for "they" when gender is publicly known :))

rene

I do try to take these kind of things into account when I ping SE staff ...

Shadow Wizard

You're too good...

Magisch

floral, almost

rene

So everything's an audit today? — ivarni 1 min ago

funny

Derpy

... noticed Shroud of the Avatar has "released" on Steam, been reading the reviews. As I feared they confirm my original feelings.

Magisch

11:46 AM

@Derpy What's that?

Derpy

@Magisch The aleged "spiritual successor" to Ultima Online. In the works AT LEAST since 2013, and still as now in a beta stage.

And no Ultima at all

Magisch

cheap knockoff mmo?

Derpy

It is made by Richard Garriot, so it is no knockoff.

That is the guy that made the original games, before EA bought and destroyed Origins

But the gameplay is nothing at all like the Ultima Online people loved in the old days.

Basically, the whole situation now looks like Mighty #9

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12:08 PM

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Derpy

@Magisch these quotes from a review should give you a pretty rough idea of the state of the "game"

> Before I quit, I knew this game-in-progress was doomed to fail for one main reason: Letting a privileged few purchase wide areas of the map, townships and such, for outrageous sums of real world cash, and then, along with a monthly subscription fee, making the rest of us slobs pay our new "lords" real world cash to "rent" a plot monthly for the privilege of living on their land

Magisch

lol

Derpy

and if this already looks bad....

> But wait..there's more..If one of the "lords of the land" quits the game, everything he owned, including the plot you rented from him, your house and everything in it, disappears! You'll have to start all over again! <look of incredulity>

Magisch

So basicly just a serf simulator for people with disposable income

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy ewww... sounds like a really bad game.

Magisch

12:13 PM

I guess. I'll stick to WoW

Shadow Wizard

I made a self promise long ago: never pay for online games.

Magisch

I pay monthly for WoW and feels its worth it

Well technically I pay monthly practically I pay with ingame gold

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard I made that promise too, yet I broke it for one game I play a lot ;) I feel like if I play it that much, the developers need some money to keep the game ad-free ;)

Shadow Wizard

12:35 PM

@Tinkeringbell hehe, well, I do pay one time for "small" games, or PS games, just not online games where the company is making tons of money anyway from people who get addicted. :)

Tinkeringbell

I guess I'm the addict in that case :P

Shadow Wizard

what game? If I may ask? ;)

Tinkeringbell

Empire 4 kingdoms ;)

I have a nice group of people there, next bbq will be somewhere in September

It's a mobile game... not really very interesting unless there's fun people

Shadow Wizard

> This app is completely free to play. Additionally it offers optional in-app purchases.

huh

Like printers which are really cheap, but the ink costs tons of money.

@Tinkeringbell and they all pay? Or just you?

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Out of a group of 65, I think about 10 pay monthly, and another 20 do single purchases now and then

The rest plays for free, and it's really a game that can be played well for free too

Shadow Wizard

12:41 PM

whoa.. lots of people. How you met all of them?

Derpy

@ShadowWizard free to play mobile games can be very different. Some are filled with microtransactions. Some you won't ever feel the urge to pay a single coin for.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard It's called an alliance :P People want to belong to a group, and ours has a system of 2 sub-groups. We recruit new players into the first tier, if they stay and reach a certain level, they get invited to go the second... and then they eventually end up in the group of 65

Somewhat Memorable Name

or just play... Ingress

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName I've heard of that. Doesn't that require walking?

Somewhat Memorable Name

@Tinkeringbell at least walking, can be as fast as riding a bike/car

Tinkeringbell

12:45 PM

@SomewhatMemorableName Doesn't sound lazy enough for me :P

Derpy

.... Ingress - did you realize Pokemon GO is based on Ingress?

Somewhat Memorable Name

When both were developed by Niantic... yes.

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy Yes, I knew that ;) That's where I know the name Ingress from ;)

Derpy

Many Pokemon GO Poke-stops where actually ported from Ingress as far as I know

that's why some of the Stops had such weird descriptions.

... I think somewhere there is a stone donkey statue with a description similar to

> Nope, this isn't the Concrete Donkey from Worms

Somewhat Memorable Name

lol, Worms

Magisch

12:50 PM

I actually played pokemon go for some time

Derpy

Worms does wonders to went out anger.

I still have my CPU level 1 enemy teams called "The SharePointers" with the worms "OWSTimer", "w3wc", "BDC Module" and "ConfigDB"

Somewhat Memorable Name

... looks like your truest enemies...

rene

@Derpy oooohhh ConfigDB ....

Somewhat Memorable Name

googling 'w3wc' returned The Hyphen Site™ as the first result!?

Derpy

typo, it is w3wP

W3wp.exe ==> IIS Worker Process

Derpy

1:15 PM

The dystopia we deserve

Tweeted by InnerPartisan on July 11, 2018 at 1:31 AM

John Dvorak

1:32 PM

What makes them think we deserve this?

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy Is that and as in only chicken wings with cheesy crust? you can still get just chicken wings? :P

John Dvorak

I'm more interested in a stand-alone cheesy crust

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha that shouldn't be too hard?

What is a cheesy crust btw? Is that like the top cheesy layer of lasagna?

Martin James

@Tinkeringbell Probably. Only the refrigerated container with the pre-packed, freeze-dried cheese version got lost.

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell Sometimes (mostly for american style pizza) they put cheese in the crust

So like a solid about 0.5cm diameter cheese strip is folded into the crust before baking the pizza

Tinkeringbell

1:41 PM

@Magisch Ooh... I knew that, I saw pictures of it. I think you can order those here too ;)

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Martin James

@Magisch Yeah - and it explodes out of the crust like lava, burning my face:(

Tinkeringbell

Somehow I was thinking the chicken wings had a cheesy crust

Magisch

I don't eat pizza tbh

Tinkeringbell

You're not alone ;)

Magisch

1:42 PM

there are boneless chicken cheese crust chicken wings

For when you really want to let your arteries know you hate them

Martin James

@Magisch It's all too much.. I'll just have the ham salad.

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Well, if my mind is allowed to sometimes make me think I hate me, I can certainly let parts of me know I hate them :P

Martin James

I much prefer the solid crust, (well, our dog does).

Magisch

@MartinJames you should post bailey pictures

John Dvorak

Martin James

1:49 PM

@Magisch IP usually post them in 'The Litter Box' :)

@JohnDvorak Umm.. I think the 'Bailey' reference was to our dog's name, rather than castle architecture:)

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2:20 PM

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Martin James

Pheasant plucker..

Magisch

did he really kill that bird?

John Dvorak

Is it really a pheasant?

Martin James

@Magisch Yup - I was walking him on his extending lead when he lunged into the grass verge. He held the bird down until it was dead, picked it up, carried it home and ate it on the lawn.

Magisch

Is that legal?

You'd get in trouble for killing a bird here

Martin James

2:30 PM

@JohnDvorak Well, not really, not by then. More a pheasant carcass.

@Magisch Well, the bird was on a grass verge at the side of a public road. If some landowner wanted to lay claim to it, s/he would have a hard time in court, (especially as teh evidence got eaten).

@Magisch It was not permitted/intentional on my part. By the time I looked round, there was just a cloud of flying feathers and the bird was already done for.

John Dvorak

It's still abetting if you as much as don't report the crime.

Martin James

I'm not a fan of pheasant anyway. They fly like the Spruce Goose and I've lost a screen once and headlamp twice to their near-useless takeoffs and pathetic climb-rate.

rene

Let's start with re-tweeting: SO members work on eliminating wild life and the picture as evidence.

John Dvorak

Sure, let's get more social groups against us. Why not?

Martin James

@JohnDvorak Meh - it's rural reality. If B sees a bird/rabbit in range, he will hunt it and kill/eat if possible.

rene

2:41 PM

@MartinJames you're more used to the climb-rate of a harrier?

John Dvorak

The bird or the plane?

Martin James

@rene I understand that hummingbirds can do VTOL. Pheasant are more VLLLLTO.

John Dvorak

@MartinJames but, the same can be said about armed robberies :P

Martin James

@JohnDvorak Bailey is rubbish with armed robberies. He can, however, hunt for food, I cannot change that:)

The weird thing is, he totally ignores cats, even kittens that would be a trivial kill.

Journeyman Geek

3:01 PM

Welcome Stack Overflow Valued Associate #599, Catherine Kuck AKA Catija!

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Martin James

@JourneymanGeek Ah.. I did wonder...

Journeyman Geek

I don't normally pin my own posts, but this one time I will make an exception. THIS ONE TIME

Martin James

Congrats Catija, well done, and I wish you well as you build up your severance package :)

John Dvorak

We won't let you live it down even once :P

Magisch

pretend I pinned it

Journeyman Geek

3:05 PM

True. ;p

Journeyman Geek

3:23 PM

ooh wee bit of news

Morning! :D

Morning

@Catija Hi!

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/313084/… (basically the russian CM's the new international team lead... though, I'm not sure what's left as far as international CMs are concerned)

rene

Making them team lead requires them to do managerial tasks. That doesn't need people to manage but it does guarantee 40% or more of your time is wasted ...

Journeyman Geek

3:28 PM

True

Somewhat Memorable Name

Morning!

Derpy

so... New associate... and they post a Meta Question. Change to ToS... and they use a blog post.

I will never understand them.

John Dvorak

Blog posts don't allow feedback

That's the sole criterion

Journeyman Geek

or there's a blog post later

but they've been saying for a while they prefer meta to blogs

anyway, now to bed. I might have a long day ahead in a good way. Potentially involving pizza, but certainly cake :)

Somewhat Memorable Name

> If you don't know how catija is pronounced, now would be a great time to ask.

Catija

3:42 PM

It's on my profile.

Somewhat Memorable Name

I noticed :)

Given the announcement stated the link to your profile and ended with this statement, it's quite funny (as in interesting)

Derpy

@JohnDvorak you realize this criterion would be very bad in my example? ;_;

John Dvorak

Why?

Catija

Most blog posts get feedback in the form of meta posts somewhere... so it's not quite "no feedback". It's also worth considering that moderating that feedback is easier on-site than in disqus or whatever the blog uses for commenting.

John Dvorak

4:31 PM

I mean, no feedback that affects your MSE rep

Shog9

Meta: where we talk with the folks who use these sites.
Blog: where we talk at folks who don't use these sites.

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

4:47 PM

Chat: where folks who use these sites complain at us?

Martin James

@Catija Oh.. I've been mentally thinking 'cat-ee-cha' :)

.. probably too much time spent in Spanish bars.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Cat I always pronounce your name with /dʒ/ when no one's around

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5:06 PM

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@SmokeDetector k

πάντα ῥεῖ

5:44 PM

@SmokeDetector k

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@SmokeDetector naa-

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:49 PM

@Shog9 Are all users with the staff bit able to migrate questions after 60 days using the main GUI, or does doing so involve having to tweak the database?

Kevin B

...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

cv-pls specific site: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/313095/…

canon

Something about this post reached into my mind and stroked it, lovingly: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/370957/621962

rene

the best part would be if all comments that were used in the test set were from that OP : Those may literally be my own words

Shadow Wizard

@canon very poetic

canon

6:58 PM

@rene lol

> I am not a helpdesk operator, and I reject any expectation that I should behave like one.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shadow Speaking of jobs, I see Stack Exchange has an open position in Israel...are you considering applying?

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog didn't see yet... will take a look!

rene

is.so?

not sure if that abbrev. will work ...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@rene is.so negative of late?

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@Shadow זכור להיות נחמד על הפת"ח ;)

Shadow Wizard

7:07 PM

@πάνταῥεῖ ?

Last word doesn't make much sense... ? @πάνταῥεῖ

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ShadowWizard Doesn't translate well?

rene

Ok, so you just declared war @πάνταῥεῖ ...

one mistake .... just one ...

Shadow Wizard

It's something like "Remember to be nice on the [name of Palestinian organization here]"

πάντα ῥεῖ

Google translate probably did!

Shadow Wizard

yeah I figured lol

Catija

7:09 PM

gare vs guerre?

πάντα ῥεῖ

Nobody ever wants war

Shadow Wizard

?

@Catija why aren't you blue yet? ;)

Oh... and belated congrats!!!!!!!! @Catija :D

canon

@πάνταῥεῖ To industry!

Shadow Wizard

You made history of being the first to be announced like this on MSE.

And you totally deserve it!

Catija

Thanks :D En-bluening will happen soon, I think. Waiting on the official announcement.

πάντα ῥεῖ

7:12 PM

@Catija You gotta first get through these small mountains of paperwork @TimPost mentioned?

Catija

Nah. Separate thing.

Shadow Wizard

@Catija isn't that MSE post by @TimPost considered official announcement? Can it be more official than that? ;)

Catija

Have you looked at my account recently?

Shadow Wizard

@Catija looking now

What about your account?

Catija

It's a lot shinier...

rene

7:17 PM

chat is caching ...

Shadow Wizard

oh wait...

I see it...

it's there....

DIAMOND!!!

It just... appeared!

Oh, hey... blue ;)

Fight the darkness!

yay!

@Catija I see you joined all SE sites 12 days ago or so... did you know you're going to get hired back then so prepared yourself? :)

(I mean all sites you didn't have account in before, which weren't that much ;))

Catija

7:23 PM

I've been sitting on this since the beginning of July. :) Got the offer three weeks ago. :)

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@Catija Your answers and patience are adorable.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shadow Charcoal participants are often members of many sites they don't actually participate in

Kevin B

too bad you can't be both blue and italic

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I am joining a lot of sites, just because of checking smokey's reports, and maybe flagging

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija By the way, to answer the question you asked me back at the airport: I don't use scripts like FIRE in Charcoal because I'm uncomfortable with the idea of my reviews identified as being "from FIRE"

Back when I was a Wikipedia contributor, I used an automated tool called Twinkle, and adjusted a setting to prevent it from adding a link back to the tool's home page in my edit summaries.

Shadow Wizard

7:27 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog sure, but they don't join 60 sites at once.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Looks like we have some dissent:

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A: Welcome Stack Overflow Valued Associate #599, Catherine Kuck AKA Catija!

Unfortunately I must say that I am not so impressed by the choice...or saying it otherwise that SE/SO is exactly going to the way I feared it would to. Sorry, I cannot congratulate the choice. Reasons. There was an old Sci-Fi chat "Mos Eisley" who was the predecessor of "The Restaurant at the E...

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog ... That's true... but I joined the sites I hadn't joined through Charcoal because of the job, not Charcoal.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog You don't come through being a mod on a site like IPS without singeing a few fingers. :) If there are things I can work on, it's good to know.

Shadow Wizard

@Catija looks like it goes way before that.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog she already got it...

(all sites)

I appreciate your honesty, that's really not trivial. To be honest, I think it's important to have opposition and know that not everything is perfect. So while I did downvote since I don't agree, I wanted you to know this answer is important and should indeed stay. — Shadow Wizard 2 mins ago

:)

(if we're into oneboxing)

Catija

@ShadowWizard Nothing I did caused Mos to implode. There were problems in there long before I used the room. The final straw involved joking about things that had no right to be joked about, and caused a bunch of suspensions for the people involved. There's a lot more to the story than what Thorsten's presenting.

Tinkeringbell

@Catija And not only to that story ;) Just keep your standards, I like them :P

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:34 PM

shouldiblamecaching.com

Magisch

@Catija I think most of us know that

Kevin B

I don't recall that user being at all involved in js chat

Shadow Wizard

@Sonic where you saw the SO job in Israel? I see here only two NY open positions.

Magisch

I must say though the answer is a low blow and even for someone who wasn't on stack at the time and has only read up on the mos eisley incident years later out of curiosity it's painting CMs and people trying to get the toxic cesspit nature to stop as the villains unfairly

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard stackoverflow.com/company/work-here/1003610/…

Shadow Wizard

7:37 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog oh. Well.. I'm really bad at marketing. Thought you meant programming position. :) (so, no... not considering.)

@Catija might be worth discussing later, probably in different room... but surely not now and not here. Cheers! :)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija Will you still be in an active role moderating the two sites you were moderating before you gained employment?

Shadow Wizard

@KevinB he's not, he just collected some stats to prove some point.

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Hmm, I am at least supporting our marketing department at facebook as much as possible.

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Nope. I'm not even on the mod list there any more. :)

Shadow Wizard

CM can't be ordinary mod...

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:40 PM

@Catija I asked Shog, and he did say that employees can moderate sites purely through their staff rights during their spare time as an employee

Shadow Wizard

SE can't and shouldn't control what their employees are doing in their spare time.

(As long as it's legit.)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

This is unlike Wikipedia, which requires their employees to have separate accounts for work and non-work purposes

Catija

I've got 170+ sites that need help. Those two will always have a special place in my heart and I'll know them better than most of the other sites around but I'm going to have to divert my focus if I'm going to succeed at what I've been hired to do. :)

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija From what I could tell, you had your heart set on becoming a mod on MSE for a very long time. How are you feeling now that your wish (if it exists) came true?

Shadow Wizard

It's like a ship's captain who has been promoted to manage all the ships.

Catija

7:43 PM

I think they call that person an admiral. ;)

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@πάνταῥεῖ "KC BBQ sauce depends on this..."

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I wanted to make sure that the CMs had the help that they needed. Me, personally, being a mod here was an interesting thought but I didn't think that they'd pick me over someone who'd been on MSE for much longer or had a ton more rep.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija I mean, you did have a very high candidate score on MSE, 35/37 (if I remember correctly).

Shadow Wizard

@Catija Admiral Catija.... sounds good! :D

πάντα ῥεῖ

7:46 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Really important reason, yes. Do you consider this spam?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@πάνταῥεῖ Don't believe so

πάντα ῥεῖ

So why your message? (+ ping)

Magisch

Hey, you have your diamond now :D

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@πάνταῥεῖ Just a quote from the question that I considered funny

Magisch

@Catija Think it's less a question of rep and more a question of style and personality

Catija

7:47 PM

@KevinB They're talking about Mos Eisley (a defunct room on SFF) and The Awkward Silence, the common room on IPS.

Magisch

From the outside it looks like you can be what the CM team needs right now

(Totally not biased btw hides)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@πάνταῥεῖ The reply was intended to associate my message to yours. The ping was unintentional.

Kevin B

Right, i was referring to his reference to JS chat in the answer

πάντα ῥεῖ

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Just share it, no ping needed.

Kevin B

it was quite a different situation.

Shadow Wizard

7:48 PM

@KevinB that's not related directly to @Catija but rather to the Welcome Wagon, which caused a big drop in chat activity.

Catija

@KevinB Ah, I missed that part. :)

Shadow Wizard

(in which she's deeply involved)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@πάνταῥεῖ How am I supposed to make the association clear? Also, people have done it many times to my [cv-pls] messages.

Catija

@Magisch I hope so! :D And I'm looking forward to diving in.

πάντα ῥεῖ

^^ Just be fast enough :3 (I obviously failed to be now)

Magisch

7:49 PM

still not convinced people taking their crude chat conversations elsewhere is a bad thing

I realize there needs to be a space for these, but chat.SE is probably not that space

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch of course not, it's a good thing.

Kevin B

like, the welcome wagon is clearly what set the problem in motion for us, but there were... other events that were the reason people stopped participating. It was more in how flags were being handled and what tooling RO's have to deal with it. but that's all mostly cleared up now (aside from the tooling part)

HDE 226868

As an IPS mod, we're gonna miss working with @Catija, but hopefully her work on the network sites will give us a chance to work together in a different way. I'm really excited to see how the let's-work-with-the-small-sites-and-grow-communities aspect of the ongoing push will turn out.

Magisch

the root access model showcases how you can still have crude and personal conversations without having to have them on chat.SE

Kevin B

8:15 PM

so... he was kicked for being problematic, and after the kick, was no longer problematic? sounds like the right tool was used.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog The answer consists of three parts. Part two has as much to do with Catija as, say, me, and the other two parts are just complaining about moderation

I don't see why the answer would or would not indicate Catija would make a good CM

So I agree with the delete vote

The congrats answers don't have much substance to them, sure. But this answer actively derails from the conversation

(/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻

Catija

Your emoji is very calmly flipping over the table, at least. :D

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Oh there's the blue name

Kevin B

required a refresh to show up for me

Catija

@HDE226868 Thanks! :D I've really enjoyed working with you and now I'll get to see you on a bunch of other sites.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

8:21 PM

@KevinB Well I didn't want a batman axe to see me flipping a table

Kevin Batman

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

9:03 PM

@Catija Out of complete curiosity, if I may ask: You used a different last name in your emails toward me, than is mentioned in the post by Tim Post. Why is that?

canon

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Multiple personalities...

Magisch

Maybe the tavern isn't the place to ask this

could be personal

Shadow Wizard

Probably pre-marriage and post-marriage names, one official and one in actual use.

canon

@ShadowWizard witsec...

Shadow Wizard

@canon huh?

United States Federal Witness Protection Program

The United States Federal Witness Protection Program, also known as the Witness Security Program or WITSEC, is a witness protection program administered by the United States Department of Justice and operated by the United States Marshals Service that is designed to protect threatened witnesses before, during, and after a trial. A few states, including California, Connecticut, Illinois, New York, Texas, and Washington D.C. have their own witness protection programs for crimes not covered by the federal program. The state-run programs provide less extensive protections than the federal program....

This? lol

canon

9:11 PM

yeah, lol

rene

Can someone visit this: stackoverflow.com/opensearch.xml do you also get a javascript dump at the end? I don't get that when not logged in.

Tinkeringbell

@rene Yep. Whole lotta nonsense

rene

strange

must go through a controller that adds that by default

Tinkeringbell

I guess so? what is that link supposed to do anyway?

rene

it should allow for browsers to offer you search from their searchbar into SO

Tinkeringbell

9:15 PM

Hmmm. Interesting. Well, it's not doing that the moment! :P

rene

that route is probably not meant to be used when logged in so I won't report it as a bug

@Tinkeringbell I think I tried it once in FF

Tinkeringbell

@rene I just used chrome... (incognito window). I got the xml when not logged in, not much more ;)

When I am logged in, I seem to get a lot of source code

rene

@Tinkeringbell see here: chrome://settings/searchEngines

Tinkeringbell

Oh cool. I used a lot of search engines :)

SmokeDetector

9:36 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How to scan every hard disk in Active Directory by tomandreson on serverfault.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: java leer tabla de un pdf gratis by peruj on es.stackoverflow.com

Dragonrage

lol, it confused me when Catija said she was blue. my chat extension makes mods orange

Catija

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Pretty much what @ShadowWizard said. If you follow the link in the announcement post to my IMDb page, it has the same last name you saw.

Mithrandir

9:54 PM

@πάνταῥεῖ yeah this doesn't make much sense

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:18 PM

@Catija Thanks for clarifying. Another curious question: does this mean we can't meet up again for watching planes (or any other purpose)? ;)

Purging comments. Whatever the merits of this answer, it is not a venue in which anyone who has ever disagreed with any moderator on any site ever should grind their axe. — Shog9 ♦ 4 mins ago

SmokeDetector

10:40 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened url in body: Twitter APIを利用した同時Tweetについて by Alina on ja.stackoverflow.com

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