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12:12 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog What I found in the FAQ answer is significantly more restrictive than what I read your statement to mean. The FAQ says that close-votes for close-as-dup with the now-closed question as the dup-target are invalidated to prevent circular closure. That I was already aware of. I thought you were saying that all of the dup-target's close-votes were invalidated (i.e. including those for non-dup reasons and with different dup-targets).

Anonymous

12:51 AM

I'd expect an inverse correlation between experience and "feeling a part of the community". Results are probably wrong.

3:52 AM

If any employees are around, I'm having trouble accessing profiles belonging to new users on Stack Overflow

Example: stackoverflow.com/users/9886646/shane

Another: stackoverflow.com/users/9886958/pajson

@AndrewMyers I can't look at your profile Something bad happened

user image

Not just new users, then, nor even Stack Overflow specific

Perhaps only on MSO, MSE and SO.

Somewhat Memorable Name

... that explains why I can't open this profile on Anime.SE too

(okay, not really explain, but same symptom)

It's network wide

Somewhat Memorable Name

4:00 AM

apparently now it affects all users, but only for "profile" tab. Still can access if directly accessing the "activity" tab (add ?tab=topactivity)

and.... ~~it should be fixed now?~~ looks like intermittent issue

4:23 AM

User pages are down?

4:41 AM

@Catija yes

Activity page is working.

And something is happening on Area 51 too.

I tweeted at StackStatus but I doubt that anyone's watching it right now.

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Q: User profile pages seem to be failing but not the activity tab

I can not currently visit user profile pages on any site I've tested. Activity pages work just fine. Visiting anyone else's profile link fails since links default to the profile tab unless you're looking at your own page or you're on a site you moderate but if you force the page URL to the activ...

bug profile-page

45 mins ago, by Nog Shine

It's network wide

:/ I guess I should read up... why didn't anyone write it up?

I asked about Area 51 though

It is about responsive design.

Yeah, there are a bunch of errors being caused by them mucking with the top bar parameters and not excluding SE.com and area 51 from the changes, I think.

5:13 AM

And now it seems to be fixed...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

At least the redirect to the activity tab on one's own user profile works

It is status-completed

When does it turn to red? ^

[mod-tag:status-completed] ?

Hmmmm... uh... [status-tag:status-completed] ?

... does that even work in chat?

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A: What Easter Eggs do the chat sites have?

All chat domains, all rooms: this is fine Typing the message this is fine as-is results in server side rendering of the message into this: This isn't case sensitive, however formatted message won't be parsed as picture. Meta Stack Exchange/(any room): red tags Send a message consisting sole...

I know you can do it in posts...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:24 AM

status-completed

According to this, yes.

That's the wrong red.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

[status-completed]

25 secs ago, by Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

status-completed

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

status-just-put-it-in-brackets

5:25 AM

status-completed

. No words before and after it

Presumably, it has to be the only content of the chat message.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija Yes.

Still the wrong color.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

It uses the same maroon color formerly used on MSE (prior to the MSO-MSE split), and still used today on Meta Super User

@Catija Mod-only tags used to be that color.

I like color of red in the questions

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:27 AM

That color is still used on Meta Super User and Meta Server Fault.

It's about the same color as the direct reply highlighting.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Catija Speaking of Easter eggs, did you try the Easter Eggs user script for chat?

There is something unusual on Top Bar of SU too. A minor bug.

I think all the bug reports about Top bar will get [status-norepro] soon. Should I report them or not?

Somewhat Memorable Name

5:49 AM

status-waffles

I don't even know which one is by-design or bug...

6:46 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog sorry, still don't think it should be reopened. Others can still do it though, as in any other case. :)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:04 AM

@ShadowWizard Why not? The part of that question that's duplicated in the target has been edited out.

7:21 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog "reviews I can't do" and "reviews I already handled" are the same idea. Nothing can change that.

I don't think we should start new request for every small aspect of a broader feature.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

This request is broad, covering all possible cases, except for the one in Yvette's question. (If her question weren't tagged as planned, I'd have closed her question as a duplicate of the broader question.)

Journeyman Geek

cough which is why overzealous dupe-closures on meta are bad ;p

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog usually I would agree, but the fact @Yve's request is both popular and got official response makes it the best "root" request for any similar requests in the future.

Journeyman Geek

@NogShine The one where its too narrow?

well narrow compared to other sites

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard What gives you the authority to claim that? Have you looked at the code and figured out that fixing Yvette's issue will also fix the other issues outlined in the other post?

If it indeed does, SE employees can close it as a dupe.

Somewhat Memorable Name

7:36 AM

@SmokeDetector darn... this is not a plagiarized answer, but ended with spam... If I were a regular, I'd remove that link... I don't know

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek The question in question is this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/310798/…

You can vote to reopen if you wish

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog slightly more interested in broader trends and influencing people too ;p

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Your actions on individual posts can set precedents

Journeyman Geek

heh, maybe?

but looking at Joe's answer, I kinda get the dupyeness too

also there's a broader and even older issue at play

that its too 'expensive' to render per user indicators

Somewhat Memorable Name

If else, edit Yvette's question to be more general and rollback the duped to the original "review banned"

Journeyman Geek

7:40 AM

I don't really like to do that either.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@SomewhatMemorableName Can't roll it back, it's in a different question

Journeyman Geek

So, broader idea I have - meta is one part helpdesk. Closing stuff "too quickly" kinda weakens that aspect of it.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

The requests aren't the same. It's not a duplicate.

@JourneymanGeek I'm trying to get it reopened here

Journeyman Geek

yup

And I'm a bit amused since I've had this same conversations with your chaos emerald requests before.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

How often do you see those these days? Search.

Somewhat Memorable Name

7:43 AM

As of current, Joe's answer is applicable to all request regarding review indicator

Journeyman Geek

Often enough that I'm busting your ass for it. I did throw it the reopen vote.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Compared to before?

7:58 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog my brain gives me the authority to think. Maybe I should have added "in my opinion" there.

You can disagree, all good. :)

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog they rarely do it.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Yeah, your statement up there seemed like you were trying to claim you were the ultimate authority about it and knew it

@SomewhatMemorableName exactly my point.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard Shog does it.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog hehe, well, I'm not.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog maybe, we should not count on it.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Quick trick: if you're in bed and chatting on mobile, and have an always-on desktop computer in your room, simply pull up the chat on the computer, and then it will make the ping sounds so you're notified when you're doing something else on your mobile device

8:04 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yes. SO and SF

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard I'm experienced at pinging Shog.

Journeyman Geek

@NogShine I think its a known/reported issue for some reason

and ya, likely to be fixed with the new responsive design

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I don't think he'll appreciate being pinged just to reopen or close a question... maybe he will, but more likely he won't.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Next to come up: Shogs golden rules of pinging e_e

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I'm just using the one-month allowance outlined in Shog's 9 Rules

Shog's 9 Rules of Pinging

Feb 4 at 19:49, 8 minutes total – 11 messages, 1 user, 9 stars

Bookmarked Mar 29 at 0:57 by Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

πάντα ῥεῖ

8:07 AM

e_e

Somewhat Memorable Name

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog nice trick, but I hate the ping sound. I prefer SE app's notification.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@SomewhatMemorableName It's delayed

Somewhat Memorable Name

not a problem for me.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Other chat servers use different sounds

Meta server sound is much better than Chat.se.

πάντα ῥεῖ

8:17 AM

And sometimes "silence is golden"

Journeyman Geek

heh

I set my own notification on mobile.

It goes... quack

8:33 AM

@JourneymanGeek not "woof"?

Journeyman Geek

naw, would confuse the newbie

πάντα ῥεῖ

@JourneymanGeek Are you working on an answer for this?

Journeyman Geek

no?

Question is far too confusing to post a good answer

πάντα ῥεῖ

Well polygeo wrote something comprehensible now.

I also had an idea to answer something, but didn't want to get ninja'd by you ;)

Journeyman Geek

go ahead

I'm actually busy with something else ;)

Journeyman Geek

9:26 AM

ok, got it nearly working, so lemme answer that ;)

one moving part down, 2 more to go

πάντα ῥεῖ

I was just to start about all of the wrong assumptions the OP made in their question. But you addressed that now.

Journeyman Geek

Yup ^^

πάντα ῥεῖ

10:04 AM

sd tpu-

sd k

πάντα ῥεῖ

Ya know, I <3 to be "explicit" ;)

1 hour later…

11:25 AM

> Thank you a lot and sorry for my England.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Well, we have even Gauland :-/

Journeyman Geek

@rene his england not powderful

@rene was expecting fish.

Do we have fish unicode?

🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟🐟
🐟🐟
🐟

LOL

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3 hours later…

2:34 PM

My tag score for the tags on this question is 555+75+143+49. Is that enough to vote on this question and all its answers? — rene 4 hours ago

Showoff

3:08 PM

@rene his England is no longer an empire

Or United

Gee, England is so tiny I wonder how it could possibly disintegrate.

It's an atom. I'm Democritus

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ it was in the news that Britain will face famine if the Brexit negotiation doesn't work out as they hope ... that was their own prediction ...

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ a bit yes, but also sincere to know where the cut-off is

Somewhat Memorable Name

3:52 PM

@SmokeDetector i herd vampri weak aginst ☼

@SomewhatMemorableName ai hørd vampirs r wik aginst !!/blacklist :p

3 hours later…

6:53 PM

→ 87 messages moved to Chimney

I guess age is removed from the SEDE schema due to GDPR? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/368976/578411

We can be thankful to the Europeans for breaking a lot of SEDE queries ....

Maybe we can run :

  SELECT count(*)
  FROM [Data.StackExchange].[dbo].[Queries]
  where querybody like '%age%'

7:52 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Can "Kristall" mean "broken glass"? by Виктор Парфенов on german.SE

πάντα ῥεῖ

sd tpu-

@rene probably... next to be removed: location. Because people will whine that their location is public and demand to hide it.

(using GDPR as excuse of course)

Heck, I saw someone demanding to opt out of automatic inactive account deletion, using GDPR somehow.

GDPR is the new hammer you can hit your thumb with.

And throw bloody splinters everywhere.

Breaking SEDE is one such splinter...

Sterling Archer

8:51 PM

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/19916465 I saw this useless edit, which was immediately approved by a low rep user. Is there a way to flag this for suspicious behavior, or should I just roll it back?

Also why did it only require 1 approval

Oh because OP approved it

nevermind

whitespace in code + six-char padding. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Sterling Archer

Comment: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I hate those edit comments. I'd rather no message than spam

It's not spam by SE's stan... etc.

Sterling Archer

who's stan?

darts

9:55 PM

5

Q: In Stan is there a way to use parameter posterior from old analysis as prior in new analysis?

Normally within the model block I might specify a prior on a parameter with y ~ normal(mu, sigma); But what if I already have a posterior on y from a previous analysis, and what to use that posterior as the prior in the new analysis. Can I import a set of samples from the old posterior and s...

@JohnDvorak how many?

Too bad Stan lost his darts.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:36 PM

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/310833/excel-formula-help

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:47 PM

chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/310575/… (@Shadow @rene)

delv-pls 20k+ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/310833/excel-formula-help

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