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12:40 AM
I'm looking for a mod
better start ping spam until you find one who replies
1:02 AM
hehe, found one.
3:27 AM
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@ShadowWizard OK; thanks for justification/clarification. Now I am interested in knowing the (list of) SE sites that are non-proposed i.e not established through Area51 i.e conventional sites not newer. Should I ask about it in MSE? or already asked before?
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@Pandya good question, besides the trilogy sites there are bunch of sites that have been "imported" from existing forums (e.g. MathOverflow, and I think Music as well, and maybe more) so go ahead and post a question. Couldn't find such a question in quick search, though I might have missed it.
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@hichris123 sorry that you got involved in that discussion. Thanks for trying to moderate it.
8:27 AM
so sleepy.
Morning @Derpy ;)
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any idea about this?
Isn't that whole question off-topic?
@Bart well, yes ... but ... I will not get myself suspended because I close vote a question that is answered by Tim Post ...
@Bart it is a site recommendation. Maybe if the question is reworded to where can I ask questions about improving my chances on the jobmarket I think the answers still hold.
9:18 AM
*"I am a freelance web developer but I don't have any work right now. My portfolio is dry.

Are there any sites within the network where I could ask questions related to the nuances of freelancing and portfolio building? Or perhaps even ones where I can look for work online?"*
As a rewrite?
@Bart that sounds OK
magically the answer can be delete voted now ...
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the football season is starting ....
9:47 AM
Then again, actual football is often more like "grass diving"
I was searching for rabbit infested football field images, but bumped into this instead:
10:17 AM
sd fp-
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10:36 AM
Q: What are the stack exchange sites that are non-proposed i.e not established through Area51?

PandyaRecently I've found some sites that are a part of Stack Exchange Network and non-proposed. In other words, I'm talking about sites that are not established through Area51 like SU. So, Which are such sites that are part of SE and not proposed aka not established through Area51?

@ShadowWizard I've just posted:
sd k
Welcome for Better title and wording. /cc @ShadowWizard @rene
how be you all?
10:38 AM
@Pandya SOFU, AU and Math Overflow?
@Bart Not AU.
@Tropiks Writing intersection tests for the Xth time ... I should really keep such code in my personal data ...
Ah, collab came later then?
@Bart just answering questions where i can and researching Hough circles
10:40 AM
@Pandya I believe there is a dupe out there for that
searching ...
@rene good (welcome to find and vote to close then)
@Pandya any search with Area 51 give 1000 hits, at least ...
Btw, you can always verify against area51.stackexchange.com/?tab=launched
this might take a while
@Oded In addition to the list you've provided, I can't find some site like StackApps on Area-51
10:46 AM
lol - i have a comparatively significant amount of answers at neutral
by the way @Bart what is an 'intersection test'?
@Pandya stackapps is special, much like Area 51.
@Tropiks related to collision detection. Intersections between spheres and general meshes. Spheres and boxes. Rays and meshes. Etc. etc.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in link text in body, pattern-matching website in body: Want to Launch a Startup? 8 Fast-Growing Industries to Consider by Robert B on webapps.stackexchange.com
I've written that stuff far too often, but my codebase doesn't migrate with me between jobs :)
10:50 AM
@Bart actually sounds very interesting!
what kind of work do you do?
@Tropiks the general idea, yeah. The practical implementation, not so much. Especially where you get into floating point issues.
I'm a dev at a gamedev company
@rene Trying to is the key... still feels strange because I'm not a room owner. But, at some point, you just have to step in...
@Bart very cool! I am a mere medicine/public health physicist
@wizzwizz4 Though I can't find some sites which are listed after Web Applications on Area51 like Arqade and so on.
10:53 AM

Launched Q&A site for passionate gamers from all platforms (computers and consoles)

@hichris123 15. In absence of all room owners, the members lead by example. which you did, and I'm thankful for that.
@Pandya That's because it hasn't always been call - Oh, Bart's already answered. :-/
@Bart oh! yes difference in name in actual site and Area51 I see; thanks for pointing out
@Pandya They changed it somewhere in the beta. That's why it's still gaming.stackexchange
@wizzwizz4 yes I see....
@wizzwizz4 I think "Web Applications is the first one in Area 51 from that list" is useful from meta.stackexchange.com/questions/284184/…
10:57 AM
@Pandya I assume that is metaphorical, and you are not telling me that you literally see (i.e. vision).
@Pandya Thanks.
Oh, and it's The Server's fault: jsfiddle.net/Ldvwp8uv/12/embedded/result
@Pandya nice, and glad to see you got excellent answer from @Oded. :)
(for some reason I thought there are more, might check it later)
@ShadowWizard Same here... Stack Apps is one, but I assume @Oded treated it differently because it's not like other sites on the network.
@ShadowWizard Yes but I think @Oded should add some note for MSE and StackApps
hello @ShadowWizard!
@wizzwizz4 yup, it's more like MSE which also didn't go through Area 51
11:00 AM
@Pandya MSE is a meta site, although technically a site.
@wizzwizz4 And the question is also technical I think!
If this message appears on the starboard, I will be cross.
@Pandya maybe, it's up to him. Worst case, someone can post another answer about those special cases.
@Tropiks oh, hello!
@wizzwizz4 it's the meta of all metas... but still not ordinary Q&A site of Stack Exchange.
@ShadowWizard It's the only site on the network that is its own meta.
I swear I am invisible at work... may have to test the theory by going to work in a ballerina tutu
11:03 AM
@wizzwizz4 hmm... yeah something like that. MSE is special in many ways. :)
@Tropiks or green hair.
@ShadowWizard Although, [meta.meta.se] doesn't link to Meta Stack Exchange...
Aug 27 at 21:11, by Shadow Wizard
True. Even after years of being active in MSE it's impossible for me to fully explain the difference...
@ShadowWizard or green hair, tutu and a Trump mask
This will fit you ^
@ShadowWizard now visualise that with a big bushy beard, nerdy glasses, a bald spot and attached to a fat disfigured body
11:08 AM
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How about specifying word "Trilogy"?
11:13 AM
@Pandya That edit doesn't improve the answer. It's best added as a comment below.
It's a bit invasive editing other people's answers, unless you're fixing spelling, grammar or content errors. Adding too much extra information makes it into your answer, not theirs.
ok; no-problem. I thought If specifying that word be useful.
@Pandya It would be, but in a comment. Not by editing the answer.
That's what comments are for! :-)
We have lost another spammer. sniff... sniff
Goodbye spammer.
@wizzwizz4 OK; Btw, I think you've come to Tavern on Meta after many time; upon my invitation!
spammer? where?? where???
@Pandya This is the first time I've participated in Tavern on the Meta. It popped up in my Inbox, saying "Pandya has invited you to Tavern on the Meta".
11:20 AM
spammers are the ingrown toenails of the interwebs
/me cringes that that thought, having had ingrown toenails
I have had spammers....erm... I mean ingrown toenails too
well, on 2 of my 9 toes
11:36 AM
missed that...
11:52 AM
how are you, @qwer?
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@Tropiks fine as usual
12:09 PM
scratch my back and I'll scratch yours only when it itches ...
12:26 PM
holy cats....
user image
wtf x 2
what in Zeus's thunderpants??
12:29 PM
animals likes to be lightly scratched
Just between you and me, kz, me too :p
have you ever tried? it feels great, for me at least >_<
lol no
12:36 PM
that is one happy cow
true, happy cat, happy fish, happy cow :p
there is a happy deer too:
@Oded there is an https issue with the ads that load on sponsored tags, reported here
12:43 PM
@Tropiks a even better one:
lol that's awesome!
Can I join too?
what is that?
12:54 PM
Should I be embarrassed to say that I really want to be lightly scratched too at the moment? :x
@Tropiks do you know Pokemon Amie? The (free I think) 3ds app that allow you to pet the pokemons from your recent generations games?
that is a "parody" video that show what a mlp base version would look like.
lol, never got into the Pokemon thing
anyway, will have to go for a while.
I also probably will have to connect a friend ps4 to the internet
(which I understood will need making a free PSN account for no reason at all since I just want to download updates the same way you can download them without accounts on a wii, and will also at the same time sign up you for free to the "let us know what game you have installed, when you play them and how you play them / what throphy you got" service... and make the data public if you forget to change the default privacy options)
sounds quite in depth
1:37 PM
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1 hour later…
2:47 PM
These cute animals make me feel guilty about my carnivorous proclivities, but the bacon, egg, and cheese roll I just ate kinda made all that guilt go away.
3:02 PM
Bacon solves everything
cheese and (unfertilized) eggs are kind of okay, but bacon is pig
@Bart actually, pizza fixes everything
don't make me hungry right before bedtime
waffle time
isn't that daily @Shog9?
3:06 PM
I was thinking more along the line of bacon and egg roll with hot chilli sauce
it should be
Is this an spammy non-answer? meta.stackexchange.com/a/284191/158100
first link is to a paid service
flushing the chat buffer with awkward cat picture
3:13 PM
@Bart spam it is then
now trying to concentrate mind on awkward cats and not food
dough is bad for cats
3:29 PM
10 months later ...
4:27 PM
Hmmm, somebody just edited one of my SU answers to say that it's wrong
5k user on SU and 76k user on SO.... pretty bad behaviour.... :(
I think @Oded covered all the considerable points and I've accepted following answer:
A: Which Stack Exchange sites weren't proposed in Area 51?

OdedThe original three (also called the trilogy) came to be before Area 51 existed: Stack Overflow Server Fault Super User After that, one site that was created via the Stack Exchange 1.0 model got fully merged into the network (the idea was to host sites on different topics for other people - th...

We've got an useful Q/A post today /cc @ShadowWizard
He did.
@Quill (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
4:48 PM
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sd k
5:19 PM
@Pandya yup, well done!
@Quill heh. Want another voice in there?
(though I'm also low rep on SU)
No, that's alright. Just thought it was funny
Sadly funny
Fadly sunny
5:35 PM
Deadly runny
Vividly punny
@Shog9 what? Is he back? :D
@ShadowWizard asked a question on SO recently
@Shog9 !
How many 'welcome back's did he get?
never really left?
5:39 PM
So zero.
I don't see him on meta.
Maybe I don't have enough eyes.
@DEAD he left meta.
Waffles is no longer in the building, unlikely anyone that matters read your comment — waffles Jul 16 at 13:55
@ShadowWizard I now matter
Maybe anti-matter
No that's U
@Shog9 oh, and posted self answer. Nice. :)
5:43 PM
@Shog9 define "leave"... for me it is zero activity. Anyway... he did have a proper goodbye party so all is good. :)
@ShadowWizard I mean... Look at my SO activity.
@Shog9 you don't count. Plus, I mean overall network activity. Though he does have some in SO.
There's leaving where you walk away, and then there's leaving where you slam the door after you, nail it shut, and then set the house on fire. I don't worry much about the former.
5:48 PM
@rene hehe, real bug fixer!
And without a diamond he can insta-close as dupe almost any question...
@Shog9 of course. He left in a good spirit, which is good. Was there any SE employee who left using the second method??
If there is, you can bet I'm not going to talk about it
@Shog9 I know, just a small "yes" would satisfy my curiosity. ;)
But I'm open to disagree
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sd k
5:57 PM
@rene eager for ice cream, aren't you? ;)
as always
6:16 PM
when an old question gets deleted, people who posted answers don't lose their rep.
that is not true when an answer gets deleted/converted to comment/etc, right? the OP still loses all the rep no matter how old?
(i am trying to formulate my opinion on what to do with 'borderline' old answers that were acceptable and popular when they were posted, but probably wouldn't pass muster today)
6:58 PM
@KutuluMike wrong. The criteria is 60 days old (or 90? I always forget) and having score of 3 or more. No matter if question or answer, and no matter how it was deleted.
Interesting side effect is that reputation from bounties is preserved in such cases, while the bounties themselves might have been refunded in case the question was deleted.
One of the better SMBC's.
7:31 PM
Burnination is going well today
A: Assisting with godaddy deletions

George StockerI went through the last fifty Godaddy posts to be deleted with this search query (As a moderator I can see all deleted posts). I'd like to say that all those deletions and closures were warranted. Most of them are, but some of the deletions and closures weren't. I've reversed the ones that aren'...

I'm glad someone actually took the time to look at all of them...
7:47 PM
he did only 50 ... we did 1600 ...
It seems that some people didn't look too well at them...
2 days ago, by hichris123
Some is the keyword there. :P I appreciate that but it seems like a loss to have just Tunaki look when it was really a group effort to close the questions...
I know it's hard to control everyone looking at questions, but it's terrible that 5 close voters + 3 delete voters all could be so wrong on site policy.
Yep, don't worry we seem to have consensus that this was the last burnination under our control.We obviously aren't good enough for that.
I wouldn't go far as to say that, but I think it's just too uncontrollable of a beast to have a room of people dedicated to closing questions look at a bunch of questions at once and decide whether they should be closed.
8:03 PM
You have that uncontrollable beast already: everyone with flag and vote privileges. What the room adds is that they can be held accountable as a group. Something you would never manage with meta, or review bans or comments to individual users
It seems better to not have a group. That way, you don't have a bunch of people thinking the same way, you don't have [cv-pls]s on decent posts, etc. Group accountability equals "You all are terrible"... which isn't true, only some people are making mistakes.
That's not to say that it's bad... it's just a more interesting beast...
Someone write that meta post @hichris123 I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that and I'm happy to have a single close vote event per week on a few tags.
@rene of witches?
@rene And that's the other thing. There's a room of 20 people who are probably going to disagree with a post like that or anything disagreeing with the room. So, who would want to go up against that?
if the irritations are only expressed in other chatrooms, in mod flags, and angry mails to [email protected] there is not much to go on as well. And, yes we have attracked the care-takers, who are not known for being sensitive to feedback of the kind you're doing it all wrong.
8:19 PM
Quite true buuut... the pain of drama is probably more than most people want to bear.
If you think it is better that the room is shutdown, start building your case now with some metaposts and evidence. You'll take the hit, sure. But more users will join in because after all we do things that have impact and that hurts now and then. In the end meta will find enough users that rather see us stop.
I don't think the room needs to be shut down. Something needs to change, but probably not that drastic.
And with enough momentum on meta it is much easier for the mod team or CM's to have it stopped.
@hichris123 define something
If you ask our regulars what they want to change that are other things then you want
They want more powerz
You seem to want better reviews
@rene If I knew I'd tell you. :P
Yeah, something along those lines. More responsible reviewing.
But except some basic monitoring and 21 rulez what else is left?
8:26 PM
But... how do you convince people that their application of the site guidelines is wrong? That what they've been doing for months has been harmful to the site?
@rene I wish I knew.
I can't beat common sense into them
At first I thought this was related. :P
Q: Who reviews the reviewmen?

Mr AndersonNote: I am not including a link because the purpose of this post is not to call anybody out. I recently edited a question. The user had misspelled the word "within" in the post's title. I looked at the pending review, to find out one of the reviewers rejected the edit: This edit does not mak...

@hichris123 It certainly is
that post is the sentiment. They all expect a proper site (I think) but as soon as the consequences of that impact their own posts you're called out on meta.
9:18 PM
9:36 PM
just a general query, if I have 2 x 0-score (1 accepted) answers, 1 x +1 answer (accepted) and 1 x +2 answer (accepted) - but have a 0 and -1 score deleted, would I be at risk of an answer ban? or am I overthinking things (again)
You probably wouldn't be at risk of a ban.
Also, you should see a warning even before you would be answer banned: meta.stackexchange.com/a/231118/237685.
that's good - no warning given, so I must be safe :)
Thank you @hichris123
how have you been?
10:54 PM
Where have all the people gone?
preparing to be happy
...it's really quite a chore.
@Tropiks Decently well. :) How about yourself?
Before the hour of happiness starts... I'd like to complain about a question about complaining being deleted: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/333588/…. Was it moderator deleted? Because I didn't think it was closed.
> As this question has been requested to be deleted by the poster, and it appears to be causing some acrimony between specific people, I'm going to remove it.
Comment left by the moderator who deleted it.
11:11 PM
Aww. I actually wrote a good answer to that.
And that question really wasn't as bad as it was made out to be. It was just some person asking "how should complaints be made?" Not "I want to complain"...
11:44 PM
More the drama in comments, I think
Anyway, I have chili, I have a beer, and I'm making cornbread. Happiness is imminent!
Happiness is great.

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