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Frank

12:00 AM

better than it could be

user259867

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/651648/… rec

bluet

12:53 AM

reject please stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7151095

suspicious thread stackoverflow.com/questions/28708455/… spam?

Kevin Brown

Answer looks really strange, question is too broad

But I think the answer is technically valid for the question, so I wouldn't call it spam (in the traditional spam flag sense)

Mooseman

I beg to differ. I think the answer is spam. It's oddly worded fluff and links to scripts for sale.

Kevin Brown

1:10 AM

ChronoForms has a free version, though you're right - I didn't realize ARI was paid. Makes it slightly more suspicious, so it could fulfill the "no disclosure" part of it

Mooseman

cv-pls opinion stackoverflow.com/q/28709425/1234256

Undo

1:32 AM

Mooseman

O.o

hichris123

Uh... why did your rep go up from that, @Undo?

Undo

@hichris123 no idea, but it's sure interesting that I just got a random upvote on the very first link when viewing a profile on default settings!

hichris123

That was me, but I unupvoted -> reupvoted

I clicked the downvote arrow, and then the upvote arrow.

+10	3 mins ago	upvote
        3 mins ago  	unupvote

Undo

uhhh

that doesn't make any sense

@hichris123 unless you upvoted it previously and it didn't get applied because repcap?

hichris123

1:47 AM

@Undo Oh, that was probably it.

SmokeDetector

1:59 AM

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user259867

sad NAA webapps.stackexchange.com/a/74301/79865

SmokeDetector

2:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Gmail app duplicate notifications - one for Inbox and again for Custom Label by Rick on android.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore there's a pending edit.

SmokeDetector

@FamousBlueRaincoat Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

user259867

He has a point though: with 64% answered, Android Enthusiasts is second to last among Q&A sites, only Software Recommendations is lower. Still brings in a lot of traffic, 148k visits/day.

Shog9

147K visits are looking for refunds from freemium games their kids downloaded though.

@JanDvorak slashes, heathen

Kevin Brown

Or people looking for information on how to root their phones

Santa Claus

2:50 AM

The Odyssey excerpt I got to read on the 9th Grade English PARCC

AstroCB

I was wondering how I got to 1161 rep on Meta.SE even though I barely visit it, and I discovered that my average rep per post is ~61.1.

user259867

3:09 AM

My count of People Reached on the new activity page goes up every day because of my post under the announcement of the new activity page. So meta.

Braiam

@Undo ha! I read the letters at the bottom as "too bad" O_O

bjb568

@SantaClaus Wait… I thot you had to read <redacted>… ?

Braiam

in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 hours ago, by Faheem Mitha

@derobert So how many lenny boxes do you currently have?

in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 hours ago, by derobert

@FaheemMitha Too many. And I wish Lenny were the oldest...

#LinuxAdmin

bjb568

3:26 AM

argh y u no there developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/…

Can windows users see ↻?

hichris123

yes

bjb568

good

NoviceSEMetaGeek

@hichris123 what is that symbol/charecter?

hichris123

@NoviceSEMetaGeek It's kinda like the refresh button on Chrome, except turned 90 degrees.

NoviceSEMetaGeek

ok

AstroCB

3:43 AM

@bjb568 @NoviceSEMetaGeek fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/21bb/index.htm

NoviceSEMetaGeek

okey dokey

Braiam

YAY

cc @***

Santa Claus

@bjb568 No, I had to read <redacted>, not <redacted>.

NoviceSEMetaGeek

O GREAT!!!!!!

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bjb568

@SantaClaus ^

NoviceSEMetaGeek

3:46 AM

bad idea obama

Braiam

@NoviceSEMetaGeek why?

NoviceSEMetaGeek

then obama will be able to control the websites we see and not let us see any of the conservative websites

Santa Claus

@bjb568 I get to take some sort of research analysis section or something tomorrow. Hopefully I'll get to read something less than 200 years old.

Undo

@NoviceSEMetaGeek source?

bjb568

pls not fox

plsplspls not fox

Andy

3:51 AM

@Undo FoxNews

NoviceSEMetaGeek

commen sense

@bjb568 ???

hichris123

@Andy so ProgramFOX?

Undo

here's how I look at it. I do not want the government to touch the Internet. But I'd rather the Gov't be able to whack ISPs than have ISPs able to extort money out of sites.

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Doorknob

uhh, what is everyone talking about?

Undo

But.

Doorknob

3:51 AM

I'm confused

hichris123

;p

Doorknob

Is this about net neutrality?

bjb568

@hichris123 :P

Undo

@Doorknob net neutrality

bjb568

P:

@Doorknob yas

Doorknob

3:52 AM

@NoviceSEMetaGeek Not sure you fully understand what net neutrality means

Undo

I, for example, have exactly two (real) options for internet service in my house. Both of them are evil.

bjb568

same

Undo

And almost certainly price fixing

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Andy

@Undo That is 100% more options than I have

Undo

3:52 AM

@Andy well one of mine is cable, so it almost doesn't count

Doorknob

Comcast basically has a monopoly here. And Comcast is basically the antithesis of net neutrality. So this is very much meh.

hichris123

@bjb568 trying to figure out if that was emoticon-bot-bjb or real bjb.

bjb568

:P

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Doorknob Blacklisted user.

hichris123

3:53 AM

Anything is better than 15/1. Ugh.

bjb568

@hichris123 you shall nevar knoooooooooow

Andy

@Undo I'm saying I have the option of using my cable provider (who actually leases lines from AT&T...so, effectively AT&T) or dial up.

Undo

ugh

we have CenturyLink here and Comcast

IIRC

Doorknob

CenturyLink? Never heard of them.

Santa Claus

> fuck samsung its a piece of shit phone it will not stay on it should be smashed

Undo

3:54 AM

@Doorknob Used to be Qwest

NoviceSEMetaGeek

@Undo patriotpost.us/articles/32460

Andy

And, since this, I don't even have an option of broadband without paying $250 a month for a business line.

Braiam

I wouldn't want packets prioritization based on money that is/isn't being paid to the ISP from the service providers

that's not how internet should work. Point.

Undo

@NoviceSEMetaGeek I'm Republican, my parents are Republican, and I honestly think that Democrats are, in general, doing it wrong. But I honestly can't read that with a straight face.

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Undo

3:56 AM

> is for the federal government to regulate the Internet to make sure we pay the exact same price for the exact same access

As I understand it, this is not what the law does

If someone can show me that it is, then I'll likely be against it.

Santa Claus

@Undo I seem to have a similar problem, except I can't read anything with a straight face.

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Braiam

@SantaClaus so, you have a geometrical face?

(mine is 2D btw)

NoviceSEMetaGeek

@ Undo "The simplest way to explain Obama’s plan is that he wants to turn the Internet into a government-controlled and regulated utility, like telephone landlines. The Internet service to your wireless smartphones, hand-held devices, laptop computers and to the corporate giant in your region would be classified under Title II of the Communications Act as a telecommunications service."

This “Communications Act” was passed in June 1934. Yep, that would be more than 80 years ago. The scope of the law was to dramatically change the manner in which telephone and radio communications were regul…

Undo

@NoviceSEMetaGeek I have no doubt that Obama would love to control the Internet, but I don't believe this law allows him to do so.

Braiam

@NoviceSEMetaGeek mm... government control or private interest control, which is ~~better~~ less worst?

@hichris123 I'm using the simile on the post

NoviceSEMetaGeek

4:01 AM

@hichris123 Bingo

Santa Claus

Somebody take this conversation somewhere else, like here plz:

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/830/politics

Andy

whitehouse.gov/net-neutrality

Braiam

> stop bothering me with your arguments elsewhere
stop bothering me with your arguments
stop bothering me

hichris123

Actually, I'm staying out of this discussion. :p

Braiam

ಠ_ಠ

Undo

4:02 AM

I'm going to sleep soon anyway

Braiam

meh, as long as my internet is slow because I have an slow connection to my ISP and not because some moronic QoS between my ISP and a service provider, I'm fine

NoviceSEMetaGeek

infowars.com/…

Doorknob

> granting government the ability to regulate the Internet will grant government control of the Internet.

Uhh... nope.

bluet

@Undo slippery slope strategy

Braiam

> There is a real problem, to be sure. ISPs have used a method called “choking” to limit the speeds of streaming services and downloads. By identifying the addresses of the services that use large amounts of bandwidth and slowing down the connections to those services, they have made them practically unusable.
Users have complained and the ISPs have ignored their complaints. Since many ISPs offer their own streaming services or cable or satellite television services, they view these services as competing with them and cutting into their revenues. So, they make it difficult to use those serv…

Andy

4:09 AM

> There is a real problem, to be sure. ISPs have used a method called “choking” to limit the speeds of streaming services and downloads. By identifying the addresses of the services that use large amounts of bandwidth and slowing down the connections to those services, they have made them practically unusable.
Users have complained and the ISPs have ignored their complaints. Since many ISPs offer their own streaming services or cable or satellite television services, they view these services as competing with them and cutting into their revenues. So, they make it difficult to use those serv…

copy cat

@NoviceSEMetaGeek How do you deal with this if the ISPs ignore the consumers and they have a monopoly in the area?

Braiam

come on! they are actually saying that ISP are not doing fair play, then the solution would be an arbiter to make sure they don't abuse

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Doorknob

@SmokeDetector tpu

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@Doorknob Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

bluet

@Andy monopolies are illegal unless endorsed by gov't , if I understand correctly

Shog9

4:10 AM

@Undo he already controls The Internet. The rumors about wanting to are just to throw folks off the trail.

Braiam

you mean He

Andy

@bluet And the ISPs are granted said monopolies. Usually with promises. Yet, they don't deliver and generate billions.

But, you can't just "build a new ISP" to compete with the big boys. Start ups don't have the funding to build the infrastructure required (infrastructure that sits in my easement, I might add) without some kind of financing/government support

Braiam

the only thing you need and you don't have to create your ISP is utility poles, and it's because those are considered private property

user259867

SPAM security.stackexchange.com/questions/82467

user259867

never mind "attack vector"; it's a korean 24 hrs "massage" thing

user259867

4:17 AM

> Seocho-gu trip travel Massage Massage 24 Hour ※ <phone number>

bluet

that's about 23 hours longer than any massage i need

NoviceSEMetaGeek

@Doorknob "granting government the ability to regulate the Internet will grant government control of the Internet. Uhh... nope." your major mental flaw

Andy

@Braiam You can bury conduit. Comcast buried a conduit in my easement 4 years ago (tore up my lawn...didn't fix it...). I can not get Comcast service. They refuse to service my address, despite their conduit being literally 75 feet from my garage door

Braiam

@NoviceSEMetaGeek can you put it in a more succinct way instead of just links to elsewhere?

Andy

@Braiam This Ars article covers some things you need to start an ISP.

Braiam

4:21 AM

@Andy I think you need permissions for those, and the investment would just skyrocket. Not feasible if you are just starting up

Andy

I think Google had to get permits to string fiber too. I can't find the article I remember reading though, so I can't back that up

Shog9

@Andy I apparently have fiber lines running 30 feet from my back door, that the phone company laid with plans for future service in the area.

But, they do not offer any form of internet access here.

NoviceSEMetaGeek

@Andy same problem between me and att!

i have comcast and my download speed is about 450 kbps

Braiam

apparently I have a more competitive market: I can call and get 6 ISP to offer me service, the catch? all sucks in the speed/cost aspect (three of them also experience abysmal packet drops, lags and jitter)

user259867

> This question was voluntarily removed by its author.

user259867

4:30 AM

Why is the word "voluntarily" there? Do we even know? They may have clicked "delete" facing the barrel of a gun. In any case, the text will never say "involuntarily", so the word adds no information.

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Andy

@Shog9 I don't think I'd be annoyed if the conduit wasn't being utilized, but about a mile down the road it goes into an older neighborhood and they have fancy new (as of 3 years ago) Comcast service

bluet

@FamousBlueRaincoat maybe b.c in a lot of cases it is involuntarily, ie: roomba'd, reasons of moderation

user259867

@bluet But then it's not "by its author".

bluet

true

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user259867

4:44 AM

@SmokeDetector ignore it's English

SmokeDetector

@FamousBlueRaincoat Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

bjb568

4:58 AM

hehe reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2x21al/…

oh krap i suppozed to do teh workz fer teh pitiful clob

At least I'm getting up slightly later because missing skewl to get cast off finally.

goes to do actual work

user259867

Setting up an assignment on linear regression using Matlab: suggested that the prediction should be plotted using symbols □ (square) in blue color. LOL

user259867

It's plot(prediction, 'bs') in Matlab.

user259867

I'll show myself out.

SmokeDetector

5:17 AM

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user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu post gone

SmokeDetector

@FamousBlueRaincoat Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: serotonin supplements by Aira Lopa on meta.stackexchange.com

bluet

5:32 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bluet Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SmokeDetector

5:48 AM

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bluet

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250143/…

Jan Dvorak

@SmokeDetector del dup

@SmokeDetector delete dup

bjb568

So I get some werk done but now late

me tired

Night!

SmokeDetector

6:03 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, Blacklisted website: Fully supports my brain health by michael kings on meta.stackexchange.com

PeterJ

spam: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250145/…

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nicael

6:19 AM

Spammers attacking!

user259867

And exclusively on meta. It's as if they know how close I am to Marshal there.

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user259867

It's totally not me planting this spam to harvest flags.

Jan Dvorak

yeah... sure

bluet

question, should we flag as spam or close as dup of previous spam?

Jan Dvorak

6:26 AM

Previous spam is gone

bluet

1 still left meta.stackexchange.com/q/250149/244519

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/149642/… (it's not just for meta anymore)

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user259867

6:43 AM

> We'd like to visit them in their high school or junior high and show the demos and talk about how awesome it into be an engineer

user259867

Good idea. Upvote?

user259867

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/149643/…

user259867

SPAM superuser.com/questions/882273/…

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Jan Dvorak

6:59 AM

4x gone

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7:47 AM

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rene

8:05 AM

@SmokeDetector shit hits the fan is NOT offensive

Jan Dvorak

@SmokeDetector gone and gone

PeterJ

shit hitting the fan is only offensive when it flies off elsewhere

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