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00:00
@Fundamental *super-enraged
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user259867
One thing leads to the other
super-engaged as in multiple marriage?
@JanDvorak the question is asking for
@JanDvorak users are free too mingle with multiple sites at a time
user259867
@hichris123 You haven't posted on SO since October, so your decision to not participate does not really affect anything much. Unless a part of the contest is to close questions (don't know, haven't read the rules).
00:10
@Fundamental Well, I'll probably post something soon. But the whole premise strikes me as stupid, since it's overriding intrinsic motivation in favor of extrinsic motivation.
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Q: Pass 2 variables to Paypal

Ciaran GaffeyI'm trying to pass 2 variables within a contact form to Paypal. I've got one of them working but not both. I can see in the console that the 2 variables are being collected but there's something going wrong. I'm using contact form 7 plugin and putting my javascript in there. Hence the on_sent_ok ...

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A: Pass 2 variables to Paypal

VladimirsIt looks like you are missing closing single quote (') and concatenation operator (+) after ...%2eie&lc=IE&amount='+my_price, try: location = 'https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=patrick%40thefitnessacademy%2eie&lc=IE&amount='+my_price+'%2e00&currency_code=EUR&button_...

^ typo, but contest eligible
@hichris123 cough rep cough
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Q: The problem with extrinsic motivation

Jon EricsonTL;DR: Stack Exchange favors standard, fast, and complete answers at the expense of novel, creative, and excellent answers. This bias results directly from reputation ratings, badges and other extrinsic motivations, which form the core of the system and can not be removed. Therefor, the quality o...

& Jon's subsequent answers
especially
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A: The problem with extrinsic motivation

Jon EricsonApparently, I'm now officially involved in Stack Exchange again. How did that happen? You might remember that about a year ago I planned to participate on Philosophy and Gardening. It turns out that I don't have many questions about gardening as I only have a couple of windowsills, a balcony a...

00:52
DD pull req, needs review github.com/bjb568/DevDoodle/pull/167
@bjb568 backs away
You are a contributor, right?
I mean collaborator.
... I know no Node.JS though. So... :P
Well, learn!
That's too much work!
00:54
There is client-side stuff too.
@bluet Not… that kind of review.
Yay, commas!
Yay, random ellipsis!
Yay, a full complete sentence!
Yay, whatever....
01:01
Yay, yays!
Yay, quadot!
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Q: summer bash 2015

Vickeljust finished reading the winter bash success story and thought, hey that was fun and maybe it helped to improve the quality of stackexchange sites. So my question is: Could we do a SUMMER BASH? during some days in summer (June), July or August. You could earn your "beachwear", like board short...

I'm totally imagining Summer Bash as that one episode of fanservice they stick into every single Anime series regardless of how serious it is. — Mysticial 3 mins ago
drools
figuratively, since not disgusting dog
Let's have that bash thing going on every day of the year while we're at it.
Can we bash bash during bash?
bash bashes bash for bashing bash during bash.
@bjb568 during [the] bash
01:16
poetry
im doin der sakespearz n itz gettin to me brainz
@bjb568 What play?
@hichris123 romeo and juliet
Doing it this quarter in English.
Ugh.
Caesar was actually pretty good.
Safari tab view is so useful.
02:29
Oh, it's friday night.
Nobody's here.
What does everybody do now?
@bjb568 Be with their family. Sleep. Do actual stuff.
"The family"… there's my dad, which is lying on the other cough internetting, "sleep" not tired, "actual stuff" I'm relaxing, catching up on Hello Internet
I already did skewl and some DD.
@bjb568 Go poke your dad. Then !!/turnoffcomputer.
@hichris123 I poke him daily. What would I do after turning off the computer?
And/or contribute to an open source project
02:36
Can't do that while listening to podcast.
@bjb568 ... uh, talk? Be with him? Do everything people did for thousands of years before computers?
@bjb568 Why not?
@hichris123 I'm with him too much. haay, imateen
@hichris123 focus, man
@bjb568 I am too, remember? In fact, I'm like 6 months younger than you or whatever.
@hichris123 I never told y'all my age…
@bjb568 Oh really. Well, you kinda told me where you go to school, and I'm fairly sure you did tell your age, so...
02:39
But anyway, I do spend plenty of time together and won't really benefit from more.
@hichris123 Find my age.
@bjb568 Probably in a deleted message.
But I'm looking...
@hichris123 Oh, there was some private info, sure. But I make very sure I don't post it.
Realworld-internet separation!
To people younger than me: There is in fact a real world!
Quite scary. Don't go there.
@bjb568 Oh, I know. It's the "I'm in my freshman year" part (tell me if you want to delete this).
Doesn't directly say age.
@bjb568 That implies 13-16, so...
02:42
:)
In fact, @Doorknob just happens to be at the lower end cough of that spectrum. And he may or may not be a grade lower than Fresh. :P
Wait wait he had his birthday.
Would anybody care to know my age on my birthday?
Typo == tired == sleep
==->
@bjb568 no
02:49
@bjb568 Well, I mean you might be sleep-typing now, so...
@hichris123 Oh, I might be? Why would you say that?
@hichris123 Yeah, I just turned 14 about a week ago. :P
@Doorknob Congrats!
darn kids always growing
@bjb568 Because you made a typo, which signifies you're tired, which signifies you might be sleep-typing.
@hichris123 Where?
I mean on my birthday.
I'm not going to say now.
03:39
in In Praise of Moderators, 7 hours ago, by bjb568
I think ROs are almost as bad as mods!
lol
next bjb complain should have the new cover sheet for the TPS Reports, otherwise is invalid
Also, lazy RO's need to try harder. "Almost as bad" isn't good enough!
03:56
No, assume good faith and let roomba take it
user259867
Okay. Deleted by owner.
gotta step up ur game, inf - MOAR KICKS!
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yay PIZZA.
Everytime I come here I see @Mooseman and it makes me want pizza :(
But this time, I have it!
Point taken, Shog. Lemme find a bot to kick.
04:09
finds @hichris123
Why do I feel like @hichris123 is going to get his head bumped by a Doorknob?
user259867
"Lemme find a bot to kick" -- "hides" => hichris123 confirmed as a bot.
user259867
The question now is, whose bot?
Oh I thought he was hiding because he told everyone it was @Doorknob's birthday.
I wasn't kicked... I don't think...
@Fundamental That was because I was just going to start up HiSmokey. :p
04:12
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How to reduces wrinkle depth? by sumaroyed on drupal.stackexchange.com
today we start early...
and Smokey appears
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
@SmokeDetector Is there a drupal command for that?
04:13
gone
flagged for spammer destruction
hrm, does the system automatically nuke them now?
"You would need to ask the people who are choosing which sites to spam for their motivation". Lol. I guess he posted at the wrong place then... — Patrick Hofman Dec 30 '14 at 14:15
04:19
actually, if they reuse their account, the easier we catch them
@JanDvorak But if we destroy it, more signal into SpamRam
@Undo is there?
Yes
user259867
I don't know if it's automatic or not, but reviewing flag history on Drupal (or other sites) shows the spammer accounts as destroyed, except recent ones.
So, the strong signals are not strong enough to combat drupal spam.
04:25
@InfiniteRecursion I'd like to know how much of it we never see.
Oh, smokey can do post bodies now
we just need some regexes
@Undo Great, @uni might have regex suggestions. How about adding filerepair forum for answers?
It only does questions atm
although I suppose there isn't any reason we can't expand to answers on questions that show up in the realtime list
Disable fox command for @Moosebot. New bot should have new features.
user259867
Most spam posts have >>>> at the end, before their spam link.
user259867
Would this many ">" appear in a legitimate post?
04:34
So, url preceeded by 3-or-more->-combo 4-or-more->-combo?
4 or more.
bash (for e.g.) has an operator that uses three >
Or <
Just had a question using it today actually.
user259867
Oh no, Python has >>>>
then there's this:
@Fundamental it does? :S
user259867
As a prompt at least.
04:38
ohhh, yeah. That's the interpreter.
user259867
Ending the post with bare URL is a pretty strong sign in general, though not 100%.
Python posts are not followed by a url, check for >>>>url
user259867
How about />\s*http/ ? Or rather />\s*<a href/
user259867
And maybe also require /<\/a><\/p>$/, link at the end of post.
Looks good. It will detect @ɥʇǝS's anti-aging lotion post too.
04:44
this is awesome
thanks folks
user259867
^ corrected after recalling a recent MSO post? :p
Maybe :P
:D
It wasn't recent.
@InfiniteRecursion 5 hours ago
I missed it :(
@JohnSaunders Just sticking this out there, can you point to an instance where a woman was offended at this usage? — Undo 19 mins ago
04:53
So are you offended @Inf?
@Undo How much of the post body? Is it just what's available in the websocket?
@Andy nope, all of it
Sweet
No @ɥʇǝS. I don't feel offended, I just ignore it. Please close it with one more cv. I feel uncomfortable seeing guys discuss about how they should communicate with us.
04:55
@InfiniteRecursion Afraid I don't have cv power on Stack Overflow, sorry :/
@InfiniteRecursion done
@Undo I'll be interested to hear how long your API quota lasts.
@Andy I'm hoping that by batching some of the larger sites into groups we can make it last longer
@InfiniteRecursion Smoke signals. I hear everyone wants to communicate with smoke signals
04:56
@Andy Smoke signals are the best.
@InfiniteRecursion I feel uncomfortable being expected to make decisions about what a whole other group of people wants, especially when the decision has already been made and I get ripped apart if I suggest anything else :P
user259867
@Undo Your filter grabs a lot of data, you don't really need that much. I build filters by unchecking everything and then adding stuff I really want. In this case: post body, user rep.
@Fundamental Mmmm, all I'm grabbing is post body, user rep, and I think a link to the user.
user259867
Hm, maybe I copied the filter incorrectly...
oh, copying it into the interactive thing is tricky
04:59
@Undo you have an API key right?
@Undo Will the delay filling the queue cause a problem? How often do you get 5 posts that need to be checked for spam in quick succession?
@hichris123 yes
@Undo To make you comfortable, I should post "How should I communicate with them male members of the community? Should I use he, Sir, or gentlemen?" :P
@InfiniteRecursion I would upvote it. Please do it.
oh I hate it when people call me sir.
04:59
NSFW lang
@hichris123 yeah
@ɥʇǝS Noted Sir
@Andy in my experience testing it, SO fills the five posts in less than a minute.
user259867
@Undo But it's supposed to work. (At least it works for my filters). When I past a filter into textarea and hit enter there, the fields update to what's selected.
@ɥʇǝS Please, sir, may I have another?
05:00
@InfiniteRecursion >.>
I see as it is now saturday everybody is back.
Hello @Seth. Is your day going well, sir?
You know, "noted sir" specifically reminds me of the peanuts..
@Fundamental in my experience you have to actually change it in the URL then reload
@hichris123 Are you talking to me? I don't heeeeeeeeear anything.
05:01
@ɥʇǝS It was intentional, Sir.
although it is grabbing more than I thought it was
@ɥʇǝS Open your earholes!
Yes, I am sir/master @ɥʇǝS.
user259867
"Yes sir" reminds me of Texas... don't hear it much in the Northeast, obviously...
Texas?
huh
user259867
05:04
Used to teach there, at the place where @BenCollins graduated from. (But he was lucky to graduate earlier.)
New England @Fundamental? They certainly have a reputation for... uh... not being super polite. :p
@bjb568 I THINK MY HAT IS COVERING THEM. SPEAK LOUDER!
Lucky Ben.
@ɥʇǝS You need a new hat, sir.
user259867
@hichris123 NY state.
@InfiniteRecursion Oh I'm sure.
@InfiniteRecursion ANY SUGGESTIONS THEN?
05:06
PANCAKES? WE'RE HAVING PANCAKES? YAY!
HOW ABOUT A FEZ? I HARD FEZES ARE COOL.
HARD FUZZES ARE NOT COOL
meh
@Fundamental ah lol. My parents lived in NJ for a time.
@bjb568 is that supposed to be something?
05:08
@Undo it'd work if your window was bigger
 __     __           _                                     ___
 \ \   / /          | |                                   |__ \
  \ \_/ /__  _   _  | |__   ___  __ _ _ __   _ __ ___   ___  ) |
   \   / _ \| | | | | '_ \ / _ \/ _` | '__| | '_ ` _ \ / _ \/ /
    | | (_) | |_| | | | | |  __/ (_| | |    | | | | | |  __/_|
    |_|\___/ \__,_| |_| |_|\___|\__,_|_|    |_| |_| |_|\___(_)
Here's a simple one.
@Undo looked like a kick-bait to me
Don't ████ me!
... okay
@InfiniteRecursion You did get an order direct from Shog to step up the kicking...
05:10
@Undo how much can a tiny duck kick? :P
You're a tiny italic duck, though
@Andy Yes, yes, I see your point. Perhaps a stetson would be better after all.
So you can kick much more than a tiny standard duck
05:12
!calc duck kick
!find ducks kicking
lol
!find pictures of ducks kicking
Totally doesn't help
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
twitch
05:13
@hichris123 said kick thrice....so...
Did you kick hichris?
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: best exercise to lose weight by desireekatz on meta.stackexchange.com
Perhaps.
Gotta say that's a nasy kick screen on mobile.
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screenshot?
post a FR :)
05:15
@JanDvorak I think he'd need to be kicked again.
@InfiniteRecursion nothings going to be changed
@hichris123 it's supposed to be a punishment
Why is it so empty?
user259867
Source of spam, for regex purpose. Note the lack of > before the link... :(
Because they didn't implement a mobile version. :P
@hichris123 eww, android
Eww, you can't accept someone's choice about a grey area.
user259867
"ending with bare URL" regex could look like /http[^>]*<\/a><\/p>$/
user259867
Combined with user rep=1 could be reliable enough.
Night all. Don't kick my bot too much! And hopefully I'll have pretty screenshots in the morning.
05:23
Night, Sir
@hichris123 ungrey it then!
@Shog9 *KIKZ
DID SOMEONE SAY KIKZ?
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: You must have this skin care option by chrisnelcos on drupal.stackexchange.com
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
user259867
05:32
more spam source for regexes. Again, no > before the link...
Jan didn't surprise us with a new avatar yet.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: How Can Make Weight Loss by ifrajan on drupal.stackexchange.com
They just keeeeeep coming
Sleep time for me, have fun :/
night
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Supplements For Building Muscle by Judy Ryan on meta.stackexchange.com
user259867
05:38
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Supplements For Building Muscle by Judy Ryan on drupal.stackexchange.com
t'was fast
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
05:39
combo x2. Combo x3 missed by one ID
user259867
Another thing in common: same link appears twice in the post. But this is not easy to test with regex, and not particularly strong (I think).
s/strong/sensitive/
not that hard to test. (...).*\1
user259867
This may be more useful: links have at least one hyphen.
They can check for known spam urls like neuro3x etc
0-o good observation, Fun
most URLs do, though
user259867
05:43
Indeed, even the URL of this room has them...
user259867
spam source #3, in case @Undo finds it useful.
Night!
I edit posts and make them gender neutral. TBH, I don't think any female or non-guy member will expect it from others to edit posts on her behalf. She should edit it herself like I do. Unless you assume that females members of this community don't have edit privs [now I am offended :D ], so just edit it if you feel it should be edited. — Infinite Recursion 4 mins ago
user259867
06:18
gone
Nuked it. It had 3 off-topic cv's :/
user259867
@nicael underscores are fancy and all, but my auto-ping-for-spam regex does not expect them, so I wasn't notified.
...zephyr format pls...
user259867
Spam link format should be in the formatting FAQ.
user259867
06:31
And now, there is no link at the end. It's like these guys folks are reading the transcript of this room. :/
user259867
babylisscurl looks like a rare case of repeated spammer. Exists for 11 days, and I vaguely remember the username.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Cleanse EFX Natural Weight Loss Slimming Herbs by lenfrew34 on meta.stackexchange.com
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
06:40
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
user259867
example of "classical" spam, with repeated >>>
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
@InfiniteRecursion Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
So borkey pings Fundamental for every report. Have @fun, Sir ;)
06:53
Is it just pinging Fundamental, or is it pinging the person who told smokey it was true?
Let's test...
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Andy Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
user259867
Maybe it got unborked.
I think it borked and exited. In response to my tpu, it pinged Fundamental.
And why does bjb do these things. No other bot is supposed to respond to Smokey's reports. It's annoying.
That seems kind of trollish
Yes, indeed.
> vulcanized meat
what is that?
user259867
> Eat much sassy fruits
@Undo @bjb568, please collaborate and reduce redundant bot reports ^
user259867
much fruits, so sassy
@bluet Poor Spock :(
06:59
nuked it
voted to reopen this since the questions isn't actually site specific
Lot of spam today, and lot of bot reports
and even more report acknowledgements
user259867
Possible pattern: URL on its own line at the end of post (without [n], as in the list of references).
07:06
robot vacation
18 hours ago, by Mooseman
It's a clone of Pham for the moment.
user259867
Odd that "how to Increase Penis Length With Safe and Effective Pump" does not trigger any of Smokey's regex parts.
2 or 3 instances of Smokey and 2 instances of Pham.
and Canary
and only the owl caught it...
I wasn't listing all the bots, only the ones with multiple instances running in the Tavern. The ones that make my life easy in this chat room.
07:10
dat url
a kingdom divided upon itself shall not stand
user259867
Not visiting, but guess it's the beginning of "until you read THIS"
user259867
Spammers are working too hard on a weekend. :/
I didn't kick @bjb568's bot for redundant reports because he already hit a new low by flooding another room with unwanted crap. If the botling floods this room any further, I will kick it. So please terminate it.
10 hours ago, by Shog9
user image
07:27
Morning good hellp you how are?
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Fundamental Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
07:42
No more duplicate acknowledgements for 30 minutes.
takes banhammer from @inf's hands and quickly puts it back in protective case -- Careful with that thing!
@Sumurai8 Thanks :)

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