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jadarnel27

15:01

I think I need more coffee. Me no type good.

Undo

What the heck happened to the CV queue?

rene

Your tool went crazy?

3ventic

The threshold for a question to enter review was bumped to 4 close votes

rene

@Undo this

3ventic

So all questions with <=3 close votes were thrown away from the queue for the time being

Undo

15:04

wow

rene

The closegraph is nice hichris.erwaysoftware.com/closegraph.php

Undo

rofl

mehow

Hi, I have got a quick question I don't really want to ASK a new question on meta...Can I get banned for deleting my own answers? I'd say no, but just want to make sure

Undo

@mehow Why are you deleting them?

mehow

I know there is a limit for deleting like 5 or 10 a day but could this possibly get you banned?

@Undo because someone else gave exactly the same answer and his answer got accepted not mine so there is no point for mine to still be there

Jeroen Vannevel

15:13

@mehow Only if it's proportionate to your positive input to the site

rene

Unless they have negative votes

Jeroen Vannevel

you've got > 10k rep, I wouldn't worry about it

mehow

specifically stackoverflow.com/questions/22071480/…

gotta be >10K a I have already deleted it

but this happens on many occasions and i really dont mind deleting my own answer if someone else gives almost the same one but just wanna make sure I am not doing harm to myself in any way :P

well thanks peoples :)

Laszlo Papp

15:32

@Oded: I had seen your photo and name for his post about implementing that feature, and then even in the comment to Wooble, but then it changed at some point to his name. Fwiw, I have not smoked any drugs and I am not aware of any hallucinations that is diagnosed by any doctors for me. I did not make a screenshot because who would have thought... :-)

Shadow Wizard

@LaszloPapp both m0sa and Oded got their real face pictures as their profile picture and they're indeed bit similar in that small icon so I'll take a guess that you got confused :)

rene

I would be offended if I got mixed up like that...

Shadow Wizard

Hmm... long lost brothers?

Jan Dvorak

(SPAM) movies.stackexchange.com/questions/17561/…

Undo

You made me make a movies account >.<

rene

15:39

same here

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak you got a bot too? :)

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard yep

rene

By the time it is winterbash 2014 I have no sites left to join

Shadow Wizard

@rene there will be new sites, SE is growing ;)

rene

Let's hope so

Shadow Wizard

15:42

When is the big celebration for having the close vote queue finally dealt with?

We need beer, cakes... lots of food

Undo

Give me six to eight weeks to find some food and cake.

Shadow Wizard

but cake is a lie, @Undo

Bart

@ShadowWizard They both look pretty bleak ... should get out more, those devs. Get some colour.

Jan Dvorak

one more flag needed ^

Shadow Wizard

@Bart actually I discolored Oded on purpose, lol

Bart

15:46

Phew, and here I was worried about @Oded's well-being.

Shadow Wizard

Oh, he's fine. London got a good sun.

Bart

London .......... sun ..........

rene

The Dutch shipped boats to England and pumps...

Shadow Wizard

See? It's there :D

Bart

That's factor 60 weather right there @ShadowWizard. Hope they protect themselves

Laszlo Papp

15:59

@ShadowWizard: L. O. L.

no, I recognize Oded of course, and I did not even know the other person, and that caused me the big surprise at the change. Well, call it hallucinations, even though I am pretty sure about because I saw it at more places. :)

if it is really hallucinations, I need to visit a doctor. :-)

Bart

-1

A: Where to download movies

try download free full movies where you can find all the latest movies in high quality without premium membership.

Spam answer on a spam question? ^^^^

Jan Dvorak

@Bart is it even worth flagging?

Laszlo Papp

:-)

Bart

FLAG ALL THE THINGS!!!!

Laszlo Papp

I would expect a lot of spam on such a site to be honest.

@ShadowWizard: it is not yet April's Fool. :-)

Shadow Wizard

16:18

But it will be soon

It will be cool if all the dev team will switch avatars

Ben Collins

@Bart there are a few of us that should probably take updated photos

Amaterasu

16:40

well, got a disciplined badge

Laszlo Papp

@ThiefMaster: can you remove my corresponding post here, too?

it was a bad joke.

Martijn Pieters

@NickCraver: so, no more reputation recalcs, eh?

never mind, found the discrepancy.

User was removed. Bah.

Nick Craver

#winning

Martijn Pieters

16:57

Absolutely!

Flyk

right! home time!

Amaterasu

hellooooo, is there a CM floating around?

Shog9

No

CMs dare not enter this place

Amaterasu

ha ha ha

@Shog9, can I get your assistance please?

Shog9

depends entirely on what you need

since you haven't stated that yet, I really couldn't say

Amaterasu

17:08

good point

I need your assistance in clearing some deadwood memberships of mine

Shog9

one sec. just ip-banned myself

13

Amaterasu

omg...

Shog9

ok, we're good

what's up?

Amaterasu

lol, yeah just need a couple of deadwood nukings please

Bart

Indeed @BenCollins. Your photo looks nothing like your (I assume more recent) avatar.

Ben Collins

17:11

heh

the lighting effect really washes out the stripes

Amaterasu

@Shog9 a couple sites that I am not comfortable in participating in at all need to be nuked off my account please

Shog9

@Amaterasu did you use the contact form? Or are you just more comfortable listing them publicly in chat?

Amaterasu

@Shog9 I used the contact form, but are happy to list them

Shog9

@Amaterasu found 'em. Two email

Amaterasu

awesome

Shog9

17:16

@Amaterasu ok, you're scheduled for deletion

Amaterasu

@fantastic - thank you

Shog9

I sent you some boilerplate with details and so on

Amaterasu

also, as one of the deadwood deletions is my oldest memebrship - is it possible to have the account summary page to sync with a different page?

Actually @Shog9 I do not need to have the 'please delete me' in the profile anymore now that the countdown has started?

Shog9

@Amaterasu not unless you cancel it

@Amaterasu it should do that automatically once the account is gone.

Amaterasu

@Shog9 awesome, so I can just have a regular everyday profile across the board and those 2 sites will just automatically drop off in 24 hours

this is a very good system

@Shog9 you are a legend (even if you accidently IP ban yourself..lol)

Shog9

17:27

@Amaterasu yup

Bart

@Amaterasu Only makes him more legendary.

Shog9

@Amaterasu indeed, I am legendary for my incompetence

Amaterasu

That is epic, totally epic!!! @Shog you're not incompetent, you're just testing the buttons...

Nick Craver

@Amaterasu no no, he really is legendary for it

Amaterasu

I sense awesome stories here

Nick Craver

17:31

you remember when the sites were offline for almost an hour and we said it was a DDoS? well...

2

Amaterasu

LMAO I was waiting for something like that

dang I needed this laugh

@NickCraver so when my laptop reset...

TGMCians

17:53

hey everyone !

stackoverflow.com/review/close/4160807 , this was wrong linked to unrelated question as duplicate mistakenly by me, can it be rollback ?

Ben Collins

@NickCraver that's because he clicked buttons from a couple of different laptops. Distributed.

Nick Craver

about 10k laptops? so it wasn't a botnet?

Undo

Distributed Denial of Shog

Amaterasu

poor @Shog9...

Shog9

If y'all keep it up, IT's gonna stop filling my requests for more laptops

Amaterasu

18:12

lol

@Shog9 can you request a laptop for me?

TGMCians

Any here who can reply to my question ?

Shog9

@TGMCians what question is it supposed to be linked to?

TGMCians

It should be linked to NetworkOnMainThreadException Duplicate 1

Reason for all errors doing network operation on main thread that is not allowed in android

Second duplicate 2 "How to use an existing database with an Android application " is unrelated to the question which OP asked

So can you rollback that, delete if you can

Shog9

@TGMCians you can retract your own close vote

just click "close" again

TGMCians

Where I could not find option to retract my own close vote ?

Shog9

18:26

@TGMCians I've closed-reopened-reclosed this now, so this is just for future reference.

TGMCians

okay thanks Shog

Richard Tingle

-11

Q: Reaching a standard of gender-neutral language

Does SO have any standards on the idea of gendered language? I believe that it is unwise to allow male pronouns to rule the day. Let me give you an example. I just posted a question where the original title was "Why did a user delete their own question?", wherein I intentionally used the vague (...

I’m quite confused as to why this question has been so badly received. Any ideas?

Jeroen Vannevel

Hadn't seen it yet but I know I am tired of that whole gender stuff

Way too politically correct

Could be people are just done with the subject

Richard Tingle

18:41

@JeroenVannevel Could be it I suppose, a similar discussion did happen just recently

Bart

I would guess that's it as well @RichardTingle. When I saw it my first response was "not this again". Though I didn't vote on it at all.

TGMCians

@rene I am reviewing CV

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHAT DOWNLOAD DO I NEED FOR WINDOWS 7 64BIT on askubuntu.com

rene

18:59

@TGMCians Great, the size seems to attracht more people :-)

TGMCians

yeah

Bart

Size does matter

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected: I need to translate this C code to MIPS assembly. Here is the C code: on stackoverflow.com

Bart

... bad keyword?

Undo

rofl

Bart

19:09

You can't spell assembly without ass

jcolebrand

19:20

you can't spell room owner without kick

3ventic

Sure, you can! Kroom iowckner!

Dammit!

Laszlo Papp

19:51

-1

A: How do I fix a "initial content not found" error?

I'm getting this problem now in Flash Builder 4.7 and it's kicking my ass. If I go into YourApplication-app.xml and fix the tag (as outlined above), I STILL get the error. The trouble is that the SWF file has disappeared. If I put an old copy of the SWF file in there, I can successfully launc...

please flag it.

rene

@LaszloPapp done

Laszlo Papp

thanks.

TGMCians

done

Laszlo Papp

-1

A: Add Google Play Services to Eclipse project

it seems not to be working.. the copy into your workspace.... i cant still see the lib in properties/android/add...

TGMCians

should be delete

please flag it for this also

Laszlo Papp

19:59

or move to comment.

rene

done

the flag that is

TGMCians

@LaszloPapp Can we move these to comment ?

rene

Only a mod can

TGMCians

okay

Laszlo Papp

I am not sure about moving it to under an answer.

I have never seen that yet, but it might be possible.

rene

20:02

I'm not sure if it is that valuable

Laszlo Papp

also, I am not sure if it is possible in case of "not enough reputation" users.

rene

normally only answers that request clarification or add something usefull to the question are converted to a comment

Laszlo Papp

it might be useful to know it is not working, and it turns out to be an extended answer after some chit-chat.

rene

It was high but it never ever touched 150K — rene 1 min ago

Shadow Wizard

> I appreciate the pseudo-scientific aspects of this discussion. However, there are many historians by who by serious and thorough research of all available historical documents can shed a great deal of light on the subject given needed definition. What characterics define the individual in question?

meta.stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/25174

Hillarious

Laszlo Papp

20:09

@rene: are you happy with the cv change today?

Bart

Ha, what the frick is that all about @ShadowWizard ...

Laszlo Papp

omg, are you really already campaigning for the next election?!!?! the last election just ended yesterday! I'm worn out! — LowerClassOverflowian 12 hours ago

I am not sure this is a constructive comment.

TRiG is Timothy Richard Green

@ShadowWizard Awesome.

Laszlo Papp

what to do with such comments on meta?

Bart

Just let it be @LaszloPapp

rene

20:11

@LaszloPapp yes, but only because I see more people in the queue now and that is the real solution

TGMCians

I am leaving now! bye

Laszlo Papp

@Bart: yeah, I do not reply to such posts. They are not worthy.

rene

bye @TGMCians

Laszlo Papp

yeah, bye-bye

Bart

I'm guessing he was just joking. Meta is somewhat different in that regard @LaszloPapp. You can flag it if you wish. But then again I told a guy he was pregnant in a comment today, so I shouldn't say too much about it ...

Jan Dvorak

20:13

Let me celebrate when the CVQ is no longer OVER 9000!!!

Laszlo Papp

@Bart: jokes are good if understood by people, but I do not know this person.

Bart

Admittedly not everybody has my great sense of humour.

rene

hahaha

we have something in common...

Laszlo Papp

the problem is that with these posts, even if a bad joke, it can be misunderstood and can be seen as an example of such behavior without joking.

Bart

If that is what you fear, by all means flag it. Even just as too chatty. Losing the comment won't be a great loss. Just don't flag my comments. That's all I ask.

Laszlo Papp

20:18

@Bart: I do not see comments from you in there.

Bart

Haha, nevermind @LaszloPapp.

Laszlo Papp

sure.

-1

A: Can't Drag Dynamically Appended DIV

I saw the demo and then i tried, but in my console shows .drag is not a function Im new on this, my apologies. I do not know what im doing wrong. :(

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WASTEBIN IN KUBUNTU on askubuntu.com

Laszlo Papp

wow, there is a copied content option these days in the suggested edits review queue

Raghav Sood

2

Q: Allow flagging from within "New Answers to Questions More Than 30 Days Old"

I frequently use the New Answers to Questions More Than 30 Days Old tools to find spam/NAA answers. A lot of them are often very obviously spam such as this, or very obviously not an answer, such as this. To flag these, I need to open them in a new tab, flag it, shut the tab and go back to looki...

feature-request flags moderator-abilities new-answers

Laszlo Papp

20:33

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4181730

what?

rene

One approved, but we were just in time

Laszlo Papp

yeah, saw it, thanks.

Jan Dvorak

that's incorrect, not too minor

3ventic

> sI'milar

Laszlo Papp

it seems most of the time I would like to reject an edit, I get the error that it was already approved.

@JanDvorak: yeah, it is both.

3ventic

20:34

I haven't seen many sI'milar edits recently.

Jan Dvorak

@LaszloPapp most of the time, it's time to flag

Laszlo Papp

"did anybody had sI'milar issues."

had -> :)

anyway, I do not even get time to give reviews usually because it gets approved that fast.

it is like 50-60%

hichris123

Having the CV queue below 20k is weird...

Laszlo Papp

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4181760

I can hardly find a useful edit. :/

Jan Dvorak

@LaszloPapp is this one not?

Bart

20:38

What is good about that one @JanDvorak?

Jan Dvorak

@Bart added code blocks for what is code

capitalised HTML

Bart

Ehm, are we talking about the same post? That's code formatting for non-code items

Jan Dvorak

generate_cert looks like code to me

3ventic

looks like a word with an underscore to me

Bart

Hmm, maybe. But then again changing text to "I tried putting this" and other not all that necessary edits just don't make it good enough for me.

Jan Dvorak

20:41

@3ventic well, the exact same word with underscore is used as a part of the URL as well.

Laszlo Papp

@JanDvorak: yes, you could argue that, but most of the edit is noise.

it does not hit the signal/noise threshold in my judgement.

:-)

maybe I am too restrict.

Bart

You've got to be freaking kidding me. How is this a good edit?

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4181790

Jan Dvorak

@LaszloPapp I thought the criteria was "improves something, doesn't left something glaringly unfixed and doesn't break anything"?

3ventic

You 2k+ people should use the little "improve" button and make those edits that do have merit to them (capitalize the I and HTML for example)

Bart

Nah, wait. Taking that back. That might actually not be bad.

hichris123

20:43

That's... a horrible edit.

Jan Dvorak

@Bart in a question? No way. In an answer? I don't have enough knowledge to tell, but it does smell of too radical anyways.

Laszlo Papp

@JanDvorak: yes, but it breaks IMHO.

(it also does not fix everything)

hichris123

Wrong one, oopsie. :P

Laszlo Papp

@Bart: that edit can be good with improve

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 because?

@hichris123 oh

Laszlo Papp

20:44

@Bart: if you check, the loop is endless

the variable is not even "volatile"

but yeah, leaving the commented stuff in is bad.

Bart

Yep @LaszloPapp. On second glance I have to agree with it. At first glance I would have rejected

Laszlo Papp

That is the kind of "let us improve it" review for me.

rene

We need a second glance queue

Laszlo Papp

because it fixes an errata.

(I just removed the comment fwiw)

hichris123

Ug, that edit... :( stackoverflow.com/posts/21576132/revisions

Bart

20:47

"You chose to reject this edit. Are you sure? Are you really sure?"

Gah, someone is posting kbd only edits

Laszlo Papp

yeah, I approved one.

Undo

oh my god

@animuson: <kbd> abuser, code 3: stackoverflow.com/users/1808674/…

hichris123

@Bart Yeah... :( Improve -> Uncheck helpful... but I'm not quick enough!

Bart

@Mr.Radical Please focus on the post as a whole when editing. Your edits need reviews and cause bumps. Editing only to format KBD is annoying when you don't fix all other issues a post has. Please don't keep doing that. — Bart 12 secs ago

Laszlo Papp

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4181876

hichris123

20:52

@Bart Yes, yes, yes!

Laszlo Papp

I was too late.

I wrote a custom comment to be polite, but it was already approved. :)

hichris123

@LaszloPapp I know... :(

Bart

Aaaand I'm out of suggested edit reviews. Dangit

Undo

^ My history

Laszlo Papp

I am out, too, because I do not care about it anymore.

Bart

20:55

"Bart has approved 856 edit suggestions and rejected 877 edit suggestions" ... I'm getting mild.

Laszlo Papp

haha, I hit you. :)

hichris123

Where's that why do we close questions meta post?

Laszlo Papp

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4181897

what do you guys do about those?

Undo

... And I'm out of reviews

Laszlo Papp

technically speaking, it is valid, but I am not sure it is worth it.

Bart

20:57

Approve.

Laszlo Papp

Laszlo Papp has approved 372 edit suggestions and rejected 650 edit suggestions

I approved it.

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4181893

Bart

The one that was asked recently @hichris123?

Laszlo Papp

you wasn't?

improve or reject?

hichris123

@Bart Not sure... it's like the one where we say that we close questions to improve the question...

rene

too late

Laszlo Papp

21:00

yeah, just saw it.

:-)

why is it so that the people who start reviewing do not get enough time to finish that within a reasonable amount of time?

Jeroen Vannevel

0

Q: Group link-only answers and veiled-as-answers answers into their own category

Alright, I have taken both this and this question into account. Both of these questions have been answered by stating that these link-only answers should be custom flagged with a clear description of what is wrong with the flag. I have taken these things in consideration and I believe that when ...

discussion flags 10k-tools link-only-answers

hichris123

@LaszloPapp If only we had time to click improve... but we don't. So many reviewers... :(

Laszlo Papp

yes, but why does the system work that way? It does not feel right.

At least at first.

rene

@Undo You can do the CVQ

Undo

Already maxed out my reviews there too

rene

21:05

Ah

qwertynl

Hi all

Laszlo Papp

so how is the review queue working from today on?

Bart

Why is it that during work I'm always full of project ideas to try, yet during the evening I can't be bothered?

Laszlo Papp

can I still use my filters?

@Bart: that is an easy one. Your mind is drained.

Bart

It's terribly annoying though.

qwertynl

21:12

I got a new job! w00t! :-)

Bart

Yay, congrats @qwertynl!

qwertynl

Thanks :-) I am so excited!

Bart

So what and where?

qwertynl

Senior PHP Engineer at stealth.travel

I am so happy :-D

Undo

neat

Laszlo Papp

21:14

@Bart: well, perhaps you can surround yourself with like-minded people? I think that helps with keeping the spirit up.

qwertynl

@Undo Thanks :-)

Laszlo Papp

still working at the age of 94?

retirement is for weaks? :)

hichris123

@qwertynl Not JS? Since you're Neal, of course...

qwertynl

@hichris123 Haha it will probably be an all around job :-P (and JS was not my previous job either ;-))

Bart

JS is not a job. JS is a way of life.

qwertynl

21:17

lol

hichris123

jQuery is a way of life... not JS.

qwertynl

haha no. Angular is a way of life :-P

Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.

^_^

hichris123

:P

qwertynl

:-D

Laszlo Papp

-1

A: Red5 demos not working

Anyone that is not used to neither java or flash got it to work properly? Because sinceraly i am about to burn Red5 into the trash cam...sounds that when I fix the Java I get problems with the Samples or even with Red5, and when I fix the problems with Red5 nothing happens to the applications...s...

hichris123

21:49

@Pops So I hear (apparently) that you've been assigned to us at Arduino? Great. :P

Bart

... and I have another account.

Pops

@hichris123 ...oh? Who told you that?

hichris123

@Bart Yay!

4

A: Why aren't we in public beta yet?

Sorry about that, folks! We normally do write a post when a private beta is being extended. Arduino just needs some more time to come up with some additional questions, just to make certain there's plenty of interesting things for folks to do once the doors open. Nothing to be alarmed at, you're...

^ Since you got blamed. :P

Pops

So you just assumed I was assigned, rather than being an excited volunteer.

Anna Lear

@Pops since when do you excitedly volunteer for anything?

hichris123

21:54

Uh... since when do you want to do work?

Bart

... well, that picture was rapidly painted.

Pops

@AnnaLear Oh, I dunno, how about... when you suggested I apply to be a CM?

Jeroen Vannevel

Your point would've been made better if you volunteered for CM

Anna Lear

@Pops oh, so now it's my fault.

Pops

A-yup.

Hey, uh, @AnnaLear... why did all my diamonds disappear? I would have e-mailed you, but I can't seem to log in.

Bart

21:59

I wonder why Pops went quiet after his "A-yup". A strange last message.

Anna Lear

Nobody here but us trees... >.>

Pops

HALP MY MOUSE IS MOVING IT SELF

hichris123

And there goes @Pops from the database... may he rest in peace.

Myobis

Hi, Is there a shorthand to link to a specific question from a comment ?
I just see [link](http://example.com) in the "help" info

Did I miss something ?

Bart

So, who do we get now for Arduino @hichris123?

That's it @Myobis

hichris123

22:04

@Bart I dunno.

Myobis

Thanks @Bart

Bart

Isn't there a shield that can do the moderation @hichris123?

You're welcome @Myobis

qwertynl

I AM TOO EXCITED!! AHHHH

hichris123

@Bart Huh. We may have to make that one ourselves... Pops was a talented in the moderation world. Maybe ask that in the Arduino chatroom? :P

Bart

If I'm going to make as much use of the site as I'm making of Arduinos, my participation will be of no significance. Whenever we think about using it for a project, either the project falls through, or we find another solution.

hichris123

22:08

lol. But you're still there to help with flagging and whatnot. :P

Bart

That's the story behind most of my 75 accounts.

ManishBot

22:24

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Value being inserted as 2147483647 into database on stackoverflow.com

Bart

That check also seems pretty useless with Baba gone

3ventic

23:54

it's useless when it's picking up 2^31-1

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