@EleezatheOtherWorldWizard I think the last time you were here, we were all engaging in the Wizards meme

@EleezatheOtherWorldWizard yes

Sooooooooooooooon

o/

\o

@SmokeDetector poof

@Tinkeringbell hows life?

Mostly business as usual, and there?

How's the new job?

Quite hectic, juggling a new job and moving in 1,5 weeks

My only "free" time is my commute these days

The new job is challenging, not so much in a technical level, bit on the political aspect.

Nice colleagues in a small team.

Sounds busy. Moving just before christmas is ... always not a good idea :P

Is the new place much better?

Well, its on an island.

For me it'll mean a longer commute, but ill work from home 4 days

My wife has a new job nearby

Gtg, arriving at the station now

Good luck :)

@Luuklag buy a more formal suit, you'll gain more respect. ;)

!!!:

@ShadowTheKidWizard pfft, you need to show dominance. You need to wear a suit made from the skins of your enemies!

@ShadowTheKidWizard @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog - so with respect to this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/383026/…

This is not a forum link's to sonic's chat history here talks about a specific staff member who... uh... has a history

and wasn't involved in mobile apps development. Its clearly confusing enough that both of you are confused

I'll be clearing out those comments shortly, but yes, I know Kasra and Brian were the mobile apps team, and they're both good folks

@JourneymanGeek or just a Ye dress:

@ShadowTheKidWizard .... No

@JourneymanGeek so this comment is the problem, totally unrelated to anything, misleading and confusing. Please delete it.

It's not the reason for the app downfall, that's 10000% for sure.

yup

@JourneymanGeek well, can replace Ye with @Luuk's boss, or rival. :P

@ShadowTheKidWizard hm. That seems a rather... pants.. idea

@trip long time no "still up", everything is fine? ;)

@starball I'm Shadow. I'm not your tour guide. :P

(that would be @M.A.R)

AND SUCH SIGHTS YOU WILL SEE! Like the muncipal dump! And an anonymous septic tank!

@EleezatheOtherWorldWizard can't see a reason for SE to sunset winter summer spring autumn bash, it's almost zero effort since they re-use existing code and designs, and gives a decent boost in activity, views, etc.

(and yes it's now officially Winter Summer Bash)

@ShadowTheKidWizard Just checking: You do know how seasons work?

@Tinkeringbell we have 2

"may rain" and "will rain a lot"

We have 4: pleasant if you're lucky, too hot, too dark and wet and skyrocketing energy bills :P

@JourneymanGeek "May" is a month not a season, silly

@Tinkeringbell winter cold. Summer hot. Spring and autumn sometimes hot sometimes cold.

Simple! :P

Used to be something like that here too, but with climate change...

oh it's still hot and cold, just in wrong places. :D

@SPArcheon usually it doesn't rain here during May, but it did when my brother got married. ;)

maybe I'm slacking (-;

@tripleee omg

It's like.... like.... eh... @Journeyman won't munch lost souls....

:D

here's one for you though

flag-pls spam returning spammer superuser.com/questions/1757357/…

one munches on spammers and herds lost souls

@ShadowTheKidWizard well, for one @JourneymanGeek does seem to lack eight more tails, I wouldn't worry for now.

chews on @SPArcheon's tail

._.

maybe that's how foxes work. They're either are cat or dog and end up being a fox if they somehow have more tails

@NordTheLoftyWizard it is a well known fact that dogs turns into foxes when they grow eight more tails. Cats simply turn into a bus when big enough...

a bus :O

looks like that cat with the wide smile in Alice in Wonderland

@tripleee yay! :D

even if I'm lost, I will never ever take that bus, you can count on that

@JourneymanGeek it's magical, now you're filled with joy and happiness. :P

@ShadowTheKidWizard tastes faintly of plastic :D

@NordTheLoftyWizard take this bus:

that bus gives me Vacation vibes. I like

that blue color is pretty good tbh

It's an hostel.

I guess they don't pay taxes if they keep moving on the road

movable house ftw!!

insider.com/tour-double-decker-bus-hostel-2021-10

> contenido no deseado

@JourneymanGeek [I will use that reference as evidence that you secretly watched the show ](youtube.com/watch?v=SrYH0GOsbWo)

@SPArcheon call me biased, but I preferred this version of the show. The latest feel like a retcon/rebranding to be honest

but then again, the first version (before 2000) was probably weirder than the latest one, so I guess it depends

@NordTheLoftyWizard Still trying to understand if they originally planned some sort of connection to the previous generation since the movie actually started with some pretty evident call-backs.

yeah, it's like what they did to Ben 10. When they did Ben 10 Omniverse, they just did a semi-reboot, and then used the excuse of hey, the universe was "rebooted" ;))))) for the different graphics and backstory of the characters

then the latest series came out. I don't want to talk about that one :/

@NordTheLoftyWizard this tempts me to nudge you to talk about it. :D

Honestly the latest version might have been watchable to me if I never actually started watching it from the first series

185 and counting! ;)

How to party when reaching 200?

!!/hats

@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'hats'.

of course no such command

busy busy adding strings in code is not easy

@Mithical at this point I think it's safe to say that it's really better to actually delete any code related to hats in Smokey, it's not like anyone will ever update it again, and it's taking extra bandwidth when loaded.

@NordTheLoftyWizard ^ want to talk about this one instead?

ah, the og series

@SmokeDetector k "also voting ring, it somehow get upvotes"

@SPArcheon I preferred this one a lot more than the latest "thing" they did (but then again, I ended up watching a lot of those episodes for some reason...still don't like it compared to the first one)

@JNat cross site spammer with possible voting ring, it's getting upvotes on obvious spam somehow. Can you please check?

@SmokeDetector k

@ShadowTheKidWizard yeah, I need to post a bit more on meta.SE but didn't find anything worth for that yet

I did managed to get beyond 200 on SO though, so, yay?

@NordTheLoftyWizard not talking about rep ;)

But kudos anyway! :D

I'm still far from 200k on MSE

I'm also fine as #8 overall, no need to push legends down. :P

@SPArcheon I think I saw that one too yeah. I can at least watch this even though I don't really like it...but I can't make myself watch the latest Ben10 series. Maybe in 10 years when I'm extremely bored, but now I can't see myself doing that

maybe I could do the same for the latest MLP but don't know yet. Guess we'll see

@ShadowTheKidWizard What would you need 200k for anyways?

@Tinkeringbell so I can have such a shirt, of course.

How ugly.

@Tinkeringbell ugly but more rep than you! :P

suspends self

Ah. Yeah. More rep = more ugly.

Also, being half Shog is huge achievement all on its own. :D

@Tinkeringbell calling Shog

@NordTheLoftyWizard did you watch MLP out of your own free will? ;)

well, yes and no. I mostly started watching because of my sister...then I kind of continued but stopped at some point

I don't remember the season where I stopped at, but I think it was past the season 5 probably

it was years ago though, if that make sense

@NordTheLoftyWizard huh. Well, I did watch a couple of episodes with my kids. :D

They didn't like it, so it ended there.

@ShadowTheKidWizard I can see why it's not always liked. Thankfully, my sister didn't force me to watch Barbie movies yet, so I'm safe! touch on wood

actually, she probably hate Barbie (as of time of writing) so maybe I'm even more safe

@ShadowTheKidWizard Seems he's not picking up :P

@ShadowTheKidWizard I could try a ritual to turn them into "baby shark" fans if you prefer...

@ShadowTheKidWizard shog4.5?

@ShadowTheKidWizard tbh past 100k I stopped seeing the point of chasing rep

But I also have every milestone and badge I want out of meta

Why would you want milestones and badges?

weird, Yaakov isn't advertising hats this year.

@SPArcheon maybe he finally got a pass from it, letting others do it. ;)

@JourneymanGeek that would require a big slicer

@JourneymanGeek I never chased rep. I post when I think it's right and I have something useful to say.

@ShadowTheKidWizard that's a fine joke.

@Tinkeringbell stick on the shirt, of course. ;)

@SPArcheon think they never even heard the song. :D

They're just not into those things.

@SPA anyway, Yaakov did mention being super busy with a project called "Staging Ground" (not sure what it is, probably part of Teams) so that's why they don't yet fix any bugs in Saves, new inbox, or any bugs in general.

After that super important project will be done, they'll start fixing bugs in other things.

Unless, of course, there will be another super ubber important project. And there will be.

@ShadowTheKidWizard and then you find out that this year balpha worked on it.

@ShadowTheKidWizard Staging Ground is a (first) SO thing, bit like a sandbox for new questions.

@SPArcheon this can be! :D

And it is unicorns. ONLY unicorns.

@Tinkeringbell let me guess, available only for Teams.

No, it's explicitly a main site thing to stem the flow of crap

hahahaha

hahaha

umm

!!/coffee to stop laughing

@ShadowTheKidWizard brews a cup of espresso for @to

choking on espresso while still laughing hard

There's no stemming/reducing the flow of crap.

So it's a pity they waste their time on impossible missions.

Pleasant surprise it's not Teams feature, but still. Few months at least until they'll even start working on anything else.

@SPA looks like we found the dev who's working on WSB this year:

@ShadowTheKidWizard Okay, rephrased then: To make the flow less visible ;)

It's indeed not likely to stop, but at least easier to ignore, hopefully ;)

I fear that not even SCP-015 would be enough to handle the amount of bad/low quality content on the network.

@Tinkeringbell that would be welcome.

@SPArcheon GPT-666

@ShadowTheKidWizard scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-015

@Tinkeringbell well, cause past 30k, there's no real benefit to rep

Not what I asked.

@Tinkeringbell well, there's gotta be some motivation

And 'no crap' isn't enough of one?

"doing good" isn't always enough :D

and the other potential tangible benefit of being a high rep user and a mod (potentially getting hired) ... well, seems remote

I mean, sure, it doesn't buy bread or a home. But neither do rep or badges.

Sure but SHINY!

So something like say, the epic badge does have some value

or was that legendary

@JourneymanGeek So extra vulnerable to stains?

well no,fingerprints

fingerprints are also stains.

Oily/greasy ones. Sometimes moist. But stains.

depends

also scratches

stains stay, fingerprints smear

Stains don't necessarily stay, they can be cleaned.

Scratches are also a risk with non-shiny stuff, it's not that shiny stuff is particularly more vulnerable to that.

on the other hand

I kinda lose interest in shiny once I got it :D

But ever seen a 'shiny' kitchen cabinet? You can clean them every day twice and still they look gross.

@JourneymanGeek Ah. Greed.

@JourneymanGeek the first badge I got on SO (or noticed getting) was Unsung Hero. Somehow, it motivated me to keep going. :D

@SPArcheon well, yeah, still not GPT. ;)

@Tinkeringbell he's busy contemplating.

@Tinkeringbell lol

@JourneymanGeek that's not good, so does it mean once you'll become CM, you'd lose interest in being a CM? ;)

@NordTheLoftyWizard isn't Barbie banned these days? It's a relic of a past idolizing skinny females and powerful men, tempting kids to try and achieve it in any way.

There are 'curvy' ones these days.

Skinny, curvy, whatever... it still focus on body and set a false image for kids.

"If you won't look like that, you won't be popular!"

Eh, sure. Let them all look like furbies then, those are popular.

It's a toy. Do your kids want to look like ferrari's because they play with red toy cars?

@Tinkeringbell yes, that would make most kids look better.

:D

@Tinkeringbell it's a toy meant to make them want to look like it. Toy cars don't do that.

On SO, 1 rep point is currently going for ~$2.50.

@PM2Ring Time to make graphs. Is that better or worse than in the past and what does that say about the state of the economy?

@ShadowTheKidWizard You severely misunderstand barbies. The original barbie wasn't made 'to look like'. If it's just about looks, there's no use in barbie having all these 'careers': looks are brainless.

I don't really care about barbies, never have, but if that's how you see the world, it's a misunderstanding that needs correcting.

Sorry, I haven't been keeping track. And you'd really need to compare similar scams. It takes more work to generate rep by writing answers for someone than by upvoting them, or giving them bounties.

@Tinkeringbell Barbie and Ken (?) have the perfect look. Perfect body. Kids won't go and Google what the actual meaning should be. That's what they see. So yes, I consider this to be bad toy.

@ShadowTheKidWizard hmm, maybe not banned, but the social consensus is that it's probably looked down upon by most people, etc

@ShadowTheKidWizard They both don't even have genitals... how are they 'perfect'?!

@Tinkeringbell only because there's no consensus what the perfect genitals are. ;)

Anyhow, good on you to label the toy bad, and not your parenting.

Easy cop-out.

The toys are far from perfect, like any other human or human-looking toy. Not being able to convey that to your kids and teach them any toy is fake is... not the toy's fault.

@Tinkeringbell well, my kids were never into it so didn't have to go through it. I'm talking about what I remember from the past. (Not playing myself, but seeing others, and seeing commercials.)

Commercials are just as fake as the toys they're selling. Someone failed while parenting you then.

Do teddy bears teach kids that they should look like bears? Or that it's safe to play with live bears?

@Tinkeringbell no doubt in that. :D

@PM2Ring nah, just that's it's fine to poke bears, then when the kid poke a real bear they're being eaten. ;)

Bad toy too. :P

@SmokeDetector f

@ShadowTheKidWizard well being an awesome one would be next, and there's big boots to fill

@JourneymanGeek whose boots? Anyone leaving?

@ShadowTheKidWizard naw

I hope not!

I was thinking past ones

@JourneymanGeek oh, but their boots already filled.

ehh :D

I think there's gaps in how things are in general

@JourneymanGeek example? Sounds more like gap in the sense "What [name here] would have done", but those who work for SE these days doing fine job.

@ShadowTheKidWizard sure but that's kinda a thing

Its less a critique of individual CMs than 'yanno, if would be nice if...'

and admittedly part of it is 'people keep telling me I'd be a good one. but...'

@JourneymanGeek whatever is missing, I don't think it would be different if other CM's would still be around.

@ShadowTheKidWizard everyone has their own way of doing things

Ana kinda is really good at the big picture stuff, Shog was shog, Aarthi did an awesome job on the ground

Ohh you talk about distant past.

Ages since I heard the name Aarthi.

Wasn't she CHAOS team?

yup

11 years ago lol

stackoverflow.blog/2011/09/15/welcome-chaos

So there's things I'd try to do

yup

These boots are way too old to fill now, anyway.

lol

you'd be surprised

Unless you want to re-create CHAOS? ;)

Oh, that's something I've asked for/about quite a few times

but I won't be a good fit for that.

I mean, I'm someone who's worked with the existing communities as a mod and user. The clever thing with chaos was it took folks new to SE, gave them mentorship, and let them build up new communities

I'd love to try to work with/around the tech communities that semi-left

security and server fault lost a lot of regulars who still hang out in the same places

and of course, see more in community hiring

@ShadowTheKidWizard abruptly stop playing Candy crush

Y-yes sir, may you help us

Has someone created a WB chat room yet? Or all of you waiting for Wednesday?

I could make a Warner Bros chatroom and spam it with Disney trailers

@Catija what happens in Wednesday?

beady eyes

@ShadowTheKidWizard Haaaaats

Anyway, think WSB rooms are in se.com chat, not here. No?

Yeah, I just feel like a lot of the regulars in here also hang out in the WB room and I don't know where else to find the WB regulars.

@Catija you're 23 years old? Kudos! :D

@Catija actually those who usually win or in top 10 aren't here, I think. Here we mainly rant about bugs and missing stuff. ;)

But this is the room the chicken visited.

This is the OG WB room.

So why making a new room? ;)

Well sometimes I'm correct.

None of the top 10 are here. ^

I feel like Caird is sometimes.

yup

@Catija but not top 10

@JourneymanGeek Onagadori Goshiki

lol

Interesting

so someone has a pedegree pet chicken

yup

"The principal characteristic of the Onagadori is its exceptionally long tail, which exceeds 1.5 metres, and has been known to reach 12 m. The tail consists of about 16–18 feathers, which under the right conditions never moult, and grow rapidly, gaining some 0.7–1.3 m per year.[4]: 329 [5]: 989  The saddle hackles also grow to a considerable length.[4]: 329 "

0_0

Super Chicken!

Fits wb perfectly

🚽

@KevinB chicken too big to fit in there, it will clog the toilet.

@Catija Why only wait till Wednesday and not even longer? First one to make a room loses :P

Call it a game of winter bash chicken

the one who makes the room gets to choose who the owners are

I have a feeling that the Parrot doesn't like Winter Bash.

SO is down!

And I think that the site TOS mentions that in this case all programming questions can be submitted to Catija while the maintenance is ongoing, right?

I'm pretty sure that any answers to a programming question I might right would be less correct than ChatGPT answers.

@Catija The novelty of getting my own hats has worn off, so now it's just a flood of bad quality content to moderate. Yeah, not the biggest fan

flag-pls spam webapps.stackexchange.com/a/168190

→ 33 messages moved to Chimney

@tripleee k

@Catija but they would be more pretty. :D

flag-pls rude aviation.stackexchange.com/a/96416

Expected fart but yeah, rude works too. ;)

Still needs at least one more flag though. :/

Afternoo

Can a moderator please comment on meta.stackexchange.com/q/383727/377214 indicating that their bug report was fixed, with a link to github.com/StackExchange/Stacks-Editor/issues/215? The author deleted their report for unknown reasons, but the bug was still a valid bug being tracked on GitHub and was fixed today, so it would be nice if a moderator can use their power to comment on deleted posts to let the author know.

That user deleted that post for whatever reason they had at the time. Which comes with a consequence of no more answers/comments/votes on the post, which may have been exactly what they wanted... I'm not going to comment on a post that's been deleted for almost a month.

That's not what that ability is for.

@SPArcheon I had some time off today :D

I still need to tweak things, a quarter waffle is no good

@Tinkeringbell Okay, maybe letting the author know is a bad argument. Now that I think of it, the author is only notified if the comment was posted within one hour of deletion by the same moderator who deleted, so I guess my request would not serve any purpose.