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12:08 AM
@Feeds also a darling of retro-youtubers
@Mithical with or without a working burner?
 
 
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1:29 AM
@Feeds You can add oneboxes to your chat. Here's how.
 
Ew, biometric authentication.
 
2:13 AM
@Mithical sorry to hear that. how long have you been sick?
 
2:56 AM
(sorry if this is off topic here) I'm looking at the rate of new users on stack overflow and noticed that the the influx generally "accelerates", but the slope "resets" near 2013 and 2017. Were there any big changes to the stack exchange platform that might have caused that?
I've only started being active in the past couple months so I'm kind of out of the loop. I've seen a fair share of posts about things that happened near 2019 though.
 
 
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5:45 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard I agree, I'll take a look
 
 
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7:39 AM
@M.A.R. are you sure? I got your fingerprint last night. :D
@DialFrost I... don't understand, sorry. Wrong reply?
No idea what Jo king is, or golfling, and how any of those related to my reply to Mith.
@forestdistrustsStackExchange hacker's wet dream
Get the fingerprints, get the jackpot.
I'm 1000% certain that hackers are going to break into central biometric data centers (of countries/governments), take everything, and be able to identify as whoever they want.
So it's worthless idea to begin with.
Password you can simply change if hackers stole it. Fingerprint you can't change.
But people are naive, so meh.... let them be hacked.
@tripleee oh, thanks, but it's actually double layered bug. The second layer is how come experimental reason with weight of 0 was posted here.
@starball mass user deletions, most likely.
There used to be a mechanism that deletes "idle" users that never did any action, it broke years ago and SE aren't going to fix it (too complex probably), but it did work for several years.
(Think feature request asking to fix it was declined, I'll look for it.)
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard ah. I did read about that on meta. they stopped it after 2017 or 2018, right?
on a separate note, I found something small but puzzling and want a second eye to see if I'm misunderstanding or not.
 
@starball yes which match the last "big change" in the graph.
@starball I can give you only one eye, need the second one.
 
The stackoverflow help center says "rude or abusive and spam flags expire after 48 hours", but this meta post says in 2017 it was change to 4 days, and in 2022, the aging away for these flag types was completely removed.
At least, that's what I'm understanding from reading it. Have I misunderstood something, or is the help center really out of date?
 
7:58 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard uh, it's not experimental, in the sense that it does not have "potentially" in its name
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard too heavy iirc
 
rules which don't have enough feedback yet are pinned to weight 0, I think until there are 20 messages with either TP or FP feedback
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard iirc a user. Golf might be code golf?
 
@starball that's pretty common that the help center is out of date. If you care enough, start a bug report on MSE, and a staff might update the help center at some point.
 
8:13 AM
is the help center managed by staff? or do mods also get to edit it?
 
@starball only staff can edit it.
They edit it on MSE first, then it "propagates" to the rest of the network, as far as I know.
Mods can edit parts of the Tour page.
 
okay. I'll make a bug report. thanks!
 
@starball do it on MSE, and link to the local page. Good luck! ;)
@tripleee oh, I see. But when looking backwards, I found quite a few of those posted only in the Fire Department, not Tavern.
@JourneymanGeek the query, or the deletion of mass amount of users?
@JourneymanGeek nah, that's far fetched. Might be anything. :D
@tripleee oh, I see.
(aka Kaboom ;))
 
[2] is gone now, the others still up
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard done: meta.stackexchange.com/q/383848/997587 :)
 
8:24 AM
@tripleee why not link directly to spam? Need extra click to reach it... ;(
 
oh sorry, I'll post better links if the spam is still up when I get back, I'm off to a meeting just now
 
@tripleee good luck with the meeting! ;)
 
thanks, just info sharing
 
The more info the better!
 
8:56 AM
@starball very few help articles can be customized by mods, but if you see the same on 3 sites, it's possibly something that mods cannot edit
oh, all privilege pages are only staff editable
 
9:14 AM
@MetaAndrewT. thanks for the info :)
 
@MetaAndrewT. I wonder how many of them are up to date. Got a feeling that very few. lol
They just don't have it in their workflow to update help center after making changes, so it's expected.
 
... who reads help center? :(
 
Bet help center still have bookmarks or even favorites and nothing about saves. Let me see...
@MetaAndrewT. that would be @starball ;)
 
@MetaAndrewT. huh! What a pleasant and utter surprise.
:D
Still, pity the help center search is totally useless.
2
 
9:28 AM
@tripleee Zoe chat spree still up 1 4 5
 
Zoë, the "e" got those dots above it ;)
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard I don't know
 
@tripleee only the "4" still up
 
oh good!
 
@JourneymanGeek pity
 
9:32 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard yeah, sorry for the careless typing, just a spammer
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard probably a matter of sheer quantity tho
and tbh the problem it solves (profile spam) isn't really seen as a major issue
 
@tripleee even spammers have names. :-D (though I bet 99% are fake anyway, unless they're really stupid enough to use their own real names.)
 
many of them are confused, they say "hello I'm Brittany" and the profile says Brian and the page they link to says Sriram
 
@tripleee hehe, yeah
 
@tripleee Sometimes its hard to keep track of all the fake identities if you're human
I think the fully automated ones probably have an easier time
 
9:35 AM
That's what you get when hiring kids who post thousands of those every day on hundreds of sites for less than $1
 
9:53 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard that just got sad real fast :(
 
10:08 AM
@starball read about it once, something about the spam industry. And yes, it's very bleak and sad, not recommending to read it.
TL;DR very rich and powerful people hire very poor and powerless people to do their dirty job.
 
 
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11:11 AM
I think this bug should be status-review.
 
11:24 AM
@bad_coder what makes it more important than other bugs? It's just one of thousands ordinary, non fatal, non critical bugs.
Anyway the queue is already more than full, and pretty much lost its value. With 182 questions there, and more added almost daily, but maybe one being done every month, in average.
It was nice idea. But expected utter failure.
So we can have the status review tag on all bugs and requests, it really doesn't matter.
If SE were serious about it, they would assign developers to actually work on bugs and requests from that pool, and fix/implement one every day, in average. That's the way to handle it. But meh, that won't happen.
 
also - while its the 'wrong' sort of staff - Bertrand works for SE and probably could get someone to take a look more effectively than we can
 
@JourneymanGeek who is Bertrand and why would they do that?
 
I noticed the same, but I suspect it is unrelated. — Aaron Bertrand Nov 4 at 16:20
^
 
But poking someone with sharp stick in order to fix a bug is very 2010-ish
It doesn't happen anymore.
 
Sorry, I'm a bit distracted but that guy :D
 
11:30 AM
@JourneymanGeek oh, Aaron. Didn't notice his last name.
 
@JourneymanGeek JNat handle cross site spammers.
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard that one is
 
Better custom flag on a specific site if you want spammer nuked.
 
11:31 AM
@JourneymanGeek you linked to specific site.
 
Yes
I'm clearly not very focused
 
Well, I'm not JNat, but why make their life harder? lol
 
yay
happy dance
 
(i've had a bit of a long day lol)
 
11:32 AM
bumping into @M.A.R while dancing
@JourneymanGeek OK, I'll ask. What happened? :)
 
New dining chairs delivered (which are nice and solid, and I like the store we got them from), had my 2nd booster (moderna bivalent) and... co-ordinating stuff over the phone with the parentals
and I love it when I ask "do I need to do $thing" when its easy
and then I get a phone call with incomplete information asking me to do $thing ....
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah, busy day indeed. You're hereby excused for making mistakes. :D
@JourneymanGeek how much $$$ for the thing? ;)
 
Oh
not a money thing
 
oh
Using $ implies money
 
or a variable :D
 
11:36 AM
illegal variable name
Or should be if not! :D
 
11:56 AM
@Tinkeringbell ARGHHHHHHHHHH
this looks like an Elementary school, all is missing is the standard japanese-style red backpack
they even wear the hat during class....
Horrible Horrible Horrible Horrible...
 
@SPArcheon the video doesn't start
@SPArcheon what's wrong with the hats? Missing red band?
Maybe those with two bands are the leaders.
 
ello
 
@DialFrost you dropped an "H".
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard yup :p
 
At least you didn't drop the "y" ^
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:(
 
12:56 PM
@ShadowTheKidWizard Or worse
DISEMVOWELMENT
@DialFrost ALLO!
 
@SPArcheon My copy of the game will arrive tomorrow, so I can play a little bit on Friday evening (maybe) and a lot Saturday/Sunday after chores :) I'll give an opinion after the weekend ;)
 
1:16 PM
@JourneymanGeek MAO
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard LM
 
@Tinkeringbell right now I am more worried by some review mentioning poor performance, frame drop and other technical issues.
 
Yep, I read a bit about that too. Then again, I think the initial reviews for Arceus were similar, and I played that and had plenty of fun, so ...
The review I read mentioned "It is hard to enjoy a nice village if the windmill in the distance isn't revolving smoothly"... I often don't pay that much close attention to details like that and they certainly won't influence how much I enjoy the gameplay.
I'm playing a game, if I want to watch windmills I will take a hike/bikeride.
 
@Tinkeringbell reviews exaggerate stuff all the time, and it is not like they won't forget to mention some issues either.
See some review claiming that Shadow of Mordor was decent on ps4.
 
1:30 PM
I'm not of Mordor
 
I'll have a proper judgment after this weekend, if I manage to wake up :P
 
@Tinkeringbell if you want some pings to help wake you up, just ask. :D
 
No. If I can catch up on sleep, I'd rather do that than game :)
I'm running short, since this weekend my neighbor(hood) has managed to ruin way too much sleep.
Lot of shouting matches at the neighbor (mostly in the late evening), and also some heavy traffic in the mornings.
 
@Tinkeringbell sorry to hear. Maybe as a preventive step stash the frog statue in the backyard for the weekend. At least one kid would be disappointed, but you'll have one less thing to worry about. ;)
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard Oh yeah. I removed the frog the same day. Until I can find a way to turn it into a poison frog, it's not going back.
I really want to clean the windows in the front, but I overheard the neighbor telling another person that they would continue work on the tiles in 2 weeks (last weekend), so cleaning this weekend would mean having to do it again next weekend.... they look so grosss though :(
 
1:47 PM
@Tinkeringbell oh, you didn't say, you just said you don't want to remove it because it's used to tell your friends where you live. ;)
@Tinkeringbell hire someone ;)
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard No, I said I had it for that purpose... and yeah... I would love if it could stay but in a neighborhood as crazy as this, it is apparently not a possibility so I'm disappointed but it has moved.
 
Post in the neighborhood Facebook "looking for someone to clean my windows", surely someone will do that for some bucks. :D
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard For something I can easily do myself? Why would I pay someone/waste my money on that?
 
@Tinkeringbell time is money
And cleaning is dirty
 
I don't mind cleaning. As long as things then stay clean for a reasonable amount of time (I know everything gets dirty after a while again ;) )
 
1:49 PM
@Tinkeringbell well maybe try looking for something that won't attract kids but act as a signpost.
 
But with a neighbor like mine, I can clean the whole backyard on Saturday, then go out on Tuesday and find a mortar/cementlike stuff all over my gravel and on my expensive tiles.
 
@Tinkeringbell yeah that sucks
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard It attracting kids isn't the problem. Adults not intervening but actually encouraging the kid they're in charge of to interact with something that isn't theirs at all, that is a problem.
@ShadowTheKidWizard It does. I just want to be able to feel a little bit of 'pride' in my work and what I have, and the arsehole makes it quite literally pretty impossible.
 
@Tinkeringbell well, but if there's nothing to lure them, the kids will just move on.
@Tinkeringbell well, guess that's just part of living nearby other people. ;(
 
Sure. But it's a really f-ed up way, having to adapt the world to a not-well watched kid, instead of having the watcher adapt the kid to the world.
@ShadowTheKidWizard It really isn't. My parents can just clean their backyard without such troubles, no problem.
They can clean their windows without having dust blow over from the neighbor.
 
1:57 PM
I know! Put a statue of really scary monster. Kids will just run away, and friends will know you live there. :P
 
They don't need to lock their backyard fence to prevent unwanted guests.
They get text messages when the neighbors have a party until late, or are expecting builders in the early morning.
They don't just have to take their neighbors into account, the neighbors take them into account as well.
Also, no shouting matches.
 
@Tinkeringbell well, that's ideal, but guess it's more luck than anything else, i.e. living nearby "better" people.
 
2:29 PM
@M.A.R. yes, I watched it. Not perfect, but much better than the past attempts. @Spe did you watch it by now? ;)
Time for double coffee, I guess.
 
A couple clips, but no, not fully. Apparently it was overall good.
 
@Spevacus yup
 
2:52 PM
All links are references to the author claims, can't see any spam there.
ah oops, there is spam. Can I change feedback?
yay
 
Ryan Donovan on November 17, 2022
Just because marketing uses a word doesn’t mean it’s a meaningful way to talk about software.
 
3:11 PM
@Feeds just when I was about to send the bug report about wrong onebox author, it's really Ryan this time.
 
3:29 PM
marketing accusing marketing of misusing technology terms
 
3:40 PM
@KevinB Ryan isn't marketing. I think.
> Ryan Donovan helps run editorial for the Stack Overflow blog. He's spend over 15 years as a technical writer embedded in software development teams across multiple industries. He lives in New York City and hopes to meet your dog some day.
Typo, but who notice.
 
routinely creates content for marketing, -> marketing
 
@KevinB not sure, he's "technical writer".
 
same difference
 
hmm
Still, it's one of the less bad posts, no ads, etc.
 
4:11 PM
Daily riddle: when will this man get out of jail?
 
4:25 PM
Is that the dude that got 1067 years? Why give him attention?
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard He is, actually. The Marketing team is responsible for the blog.
 
5:07 PM
@Tinkeringbell rest in peace, mr. frog o7
 
@Mast boom
 
5:50 PM
32 messages moved to Chimney
 
@V2Blast oh. OK, so @Kev wins. :D
@Sonic you're better at those things than anyone else I know, can you please go over the flag post privilege page and look if there are more things that needs updating besides what's already reported?
 
 
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7:04 PM
@Feeds "site feed" is nonsense, but onebox can still matter
 
 
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8:34 PM
@SPArcheon serebii.net/pokedex-sv/tinkatink they named one after me! :p
@ShadowTheKidWizard Also, just in: woman shouts to barking dog to "shut up, you're waking everyone up" and is now having a loud conversation with stinky smoke neighbor
Hypocrite.
 
8:57 PM
time to wake up
 
9:13 PM
I found two other inaccuracies in the page: 1. the screenshot of the flag icon is outdated, and 2. posts are no longer banished from the front page with three spam/abusive flags (the only thing that kicks in is the usual removal if it's a question and scores -4 or below on a main site due to the implicit downvotes). cc @V2Blast — Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog 1 min ago
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog edited into post. thanks! you may delete that comment if you wish
 
I prefer to retain comments in cases where they're quoted in posts, so it doesn't seem to others that I'm being quoted out of thin air.
@Tinkeringbell Grill smoke or tobacco smoke?
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog understood :)
@Catija hello! sorry to bother you, but can we get an update on sonic's question here about whether spam/rude/abusive on comments age away?
 
@starball I'm not aware of comment flags aging at all?
 
@Catija oh!
 
9:21 PM
I know Sonic asked that but I don't actually know whether that's a thing. Most of the time, it's not an issue? Not that this was, either but... yeah.
I had left a comment but removed it because I didn't have any evidence of it and... I think it honestly slipped my mind and seemed minor enough I didn't want to take too much time to investigate.
 
ok thanks! I'll take a quick look at the FAQs to see if they say anything about it
 
@Catija Apparently it was in November 2013 when the answer to my question was initially posted
 
on a related note, I think this post needs to be updated. It says spam/R/A flags age away after 4 days
 
(for clarity, it was under my old account)
@starball No it doesn't? I just edited it out in the last revision in June
 
whoops. I am confusing flag reasons. sorry about that.
but what is the "harassment/bigotry/abuse" reason?
is that gone now?
 
9:26 PM
It's the first comment flag type
HBA, unfriendly, NLN, other... or something like that.
 
sigh. sorry again. I should read things before I say things
 
That's the right order
 
thanks for doing discourse with me!
 
Sorry, this is Chat, not Discourse... that's Jeff's current project. ;)
 
hehe I know about it
 
9:28 PM
I think they meant the dictionary word discourse, not the software Discourse
 
Yeah, that's... the joke. :P Intentional misunderstanding.
 
@ThomasWard Not every question has the answer of "install/update software", and of the ones that do, they can be closed as duplicates of a canonical (the dictionary word, not the company) post. Just because Canonical (the company) says that a certain release is no longer supported doesn't mean that we, as a community, should stop answering questions about it if they still have useful answers today (e.g. a setting needs to be changed, there's a hardware fault, etc.). — gparyani Jan 30 at 21:35
 
Seems somewhat out of place here?
 
Well, your message reminded me of a comment I made a while back where the distinction between dictionary word and proper noun was relevant
 
9:42 PM
hmm
 

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