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6:19 AM

trying to see beyond the smoke

seeing only @M.A.R's tail

6:35 AM

@rene feature request for Kenny: when someone deletes their message, remove it from the train module. Is this doable, i.e. listening to delete events? (You're not pingable in Den and I'm too lazy to search for your last message there ;))

Reasoning:

6:56 AM

Open source, author says it's theirs.

forest distrusts StackExchange

7:11 AM

Is this even on topic for MSE? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/379526/…

@Luuklag I don't think so. He's asking how to use the API in Python, not what the API is.

@forestdistrustsStackExchange Also asking for "the right way" TM isn't really a question to begin with

forest distrusts StackExchange

I think generally we've accepted questions about programming against the SE API?

that said...yeah, it's not really clear what's being asked.

Why do they think it may not be?

Are there observed issues?

Do they just want a code review?

7:16 AM

I commented, and vote as needs details or clarity

forest distrusts StackExchange

I guess that's a good action, wouldn't want people to just start asking programming questions with SE stuff as an example and just have it be on-topic :)

"Hi I'm trying to write a Netfilter module to improve my iptables rulesets' flexibility. I keep getting a kernel panic at this line and I can't tell why. I'm feeding it the IP address of SE btw so this is totally on-topic"

7:42 AM

@Luuklag yes, API questions are on topic on MSE.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar Is this truly about the API though, or about the code they wrote to use the API?

When it's about how to use the API for personal use, well, there's gray area.

If the usage is useful for others, it might be good to try and help them anyway.

I think there's a conceivable clarification to this question that's on-topic on MSE.

There are also conceivable clarifications that aren't.

Aka case by case thing.

Yeah.

@Shadow now you've gotten it cross-posted ;-)

7:57 AM

Perhaps the parrot can do her magic and make it disappear on MSE then

I have opinions, but I'll stay out of the voting for a bit ;)

I'll keep the end-result in mind as 'precedent' when there's a next time though :D

8:18 AM

@RyanM ?

Oh, OP posted same question on stackapps?

Yep. I posted links in the comments of each.

Well probably better suited there.

Think @Glorfindel is mod there too, so easy for him to make final decision. ;)

Probably. It definitely shouldn't be on both, though...

Ah yeah, perfect :D

8:46 AM

Note to self: report this network spammer when JNat will be back.

9:17 AM

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar he is non-pingable again?

9:42 AM

That'd be weird, as I see the avatar lurking in the sidebar.

@Tinkeringbell true

@Luuklag he is, but since he did not respond to messages, I assume he might have retired from spam hunting, or taking a break.

So I meant "back from the break", I guess. ;)

1 hour later…

10:50 AM

Well actually LOA but guess it's kind of NAA as well.

yeah VLQ could also work

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar or generally batching them up to nuke em all in one swell swoop

Like the deadly ninja weasels of old.

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar it has three turds in MS now

@JourneymanGeek hopefully! :)

@Luuklag three is nice, is it also wiped by now? checking

heh, wiped and flushed.

@Luuklag not 100% also answer posted 5 hours ago, why Smokey reported it only now?

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar cause the accepted answer got edited, made smokey re-scan the post

11:10 AM

hmm another answer which wasn't reported yet for some reason...

11:21 AM

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar it was, last smokey message is that post

11:49 AM

lol

Are people hunting down IE questions today?

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Why do you ask

Noticed a 2. I approve and am curious :D

WSO2 joins Collectives™ on Stack Overflow

@JourneymanGeek it's @Glorfindel's broken links fix script, it's bumping ancient posts so people edit and close if needed.

2 hours later…

Feeds

1:28 PM

Jascha Drel on June 14, 2022

From inception, WSO2 had a firm belief in the power of open-source software. Its co-founders were early members of the Apache foundation, and their vision for WSO2 always incorporated the innovation and commitment of a global developer community. Over a decade ago, WSO2 helped to popularize the use of open source in the enterprise and…

@JourneymanGeek Glo did, with his dead link bot

2:07 PM

@Feeds onebox to join Collectives as well

Likely spam seed, account on arqade suspended as well. No good would come out of this one, that's almost certain.

Kevin B

2:21 PM

🚽

@KevinB for the new blog post, or the spam seed?

Would you be able to sleep tonight if you got another one?

lol

@Tinkeringbell I can sleep right after having coffee, so yes. ;)

Then you can go make yourself another coffee :)

783 days to go

@Tinkeringbell yay!

@Tinkeringbell now problem is what to eat while drinking it

Got some Loacker left, but had about 6 already

2:28 PM

Maybe not eat anything unhealthy.

Did you count your calories for the day?

Is there still calories enough to have a snack?

lol

>_>

/me hands @ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar a carrot

2:41 PM

@JourneymanGeek wondering what to do with the carrot

/me hands @ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar 3 blueberries, a barspoon of liquid nitrogen, and the cursed candy of the damned.

@JourneymanGeek Since you're here, cleanup on aisle three? meta.stackexchange.com/a/379537/622284

Also aisle four: meta.stackexchange.com/a/379538/622284

Cheers

@JourneymanGeek kaboom

Shadow turns into Blueberry Monster

@Spevacus handled

Thank you :)

30 days in the shack

2:50 PM

Weird part, they appear to be legit and fine on other sites. Account hacked?

@Journeyman they also have account on SU, anything suspicious there?

Maybe compare IP address used there and on MSE?

Well - his account still exists

No odd public activity on their SU profile from what I can see. Typical interaction on a question they posted a short while ago.

Yeah, weird.

and has some reputation on math

anyway, at some point a durian is but a durian. We'll deal with issues as they happen, where they happen, unless its obviously something that needs both my mod hats :D

3:19 PM

@JourneymanGeek hmm, OK, I guess. ;)

2 hours later…

rene

5:04 PM

@Luuklag that is the 4th similar question now by that same user across the network ...

@rene yeah, that user doesn't really believe in self deletetion.

rene

@ShadowWizardSaysNoMoreWar hmm, the bot commands can listen to all events but they need to do state management for themselves. So the command needs to keep track of the messageid for 2 minutes. Caching, Yeah!

2 hours later…

7:09 PM

@rene one more DV before its elligble for ordinary deletion on MSE

1 hour later…

8:11 PM

@rene so, status-review? ;)