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Rob

01:03

@EkadhSingh My answer on the next link gives the link to the SEDE Moderator Score Calculator.

Feeds

02:28

Gotten the Ferris wheel operator's attention

Rob

03:16

Seen a funny xkcd

Journeyman Geek

04:13

@JNat stackexchange.com/users/21597327/… one for the spammer backlog

Journeyman Geek

05:31

@JNat and one more spammer stackexchange.com/users/21201591/john-s

Luuklag

06:54

@Rob that's off the charts ;)

Glorfindel

07:26

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog thanks for the report. Fixed it locally, but GitHub doesn't let me push it :x

Luuklag

07:50

@JNat: cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/20917158/erickcostasilva?tab=accounts

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

08:07

@SmokeDetector boo

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard k

JNat

08:29

@Luuklag gone

@JourneymanGeek gone

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

The font change has been reverted

JNat

@JourneymanGeek gone

Luuklag

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog intentional?

JNat

@Luuklag and gone

Luuklag

*hurries to find new spammers

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

08:38

@Luuklag f+

2

Q: Is the "Segoe UI" font reverted on Windows OS?

Till Yesterday I saw "Segoe UI" font was used in the Meta Stack Exchange due to this change, but now I can see "Arial" font applied everywhere on this site. Is the change is intentional? I'm on Windows 10 Pro, Mozilla Firefox 89.0 (64-bit)

(in case someone wants to post bug report, it's already reported)

Luuklag

I also commented on the original font change announcement yesterday evening

Rob

09:05

So, it's like: Seagull you eye - ewww

Luuklag

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21122230/gv-lisa?tab=accounts

If you ever feel bored @JNat ;) You could nuke this, I don't think they posted anything though. mathoverflow.net/users/279376/atlanta-retaining-walls

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21316292/…

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:18

"Luncheon meat"?! huh?

????

super false.

So now functions are spam? What's next?

Soon all posts will be reported... sad

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:39

ff

Luuklag

ffs

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

But really... sometimes Smokey devs are really too trigger happy.

Luuklag

Well I see where this came from, it tracks for hashes, which those coordinates do imply to an extent

but I don't see the coordinates in the post

so they must have been deleted during the grace period?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag don't know what you mean, but this is the original, before any grace period edit.

Luuklag

yeah, but I was talking about those p1: p2: things

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

10:46

No idea what they mean...

Meta Andrew T.

11:07

@Luuklag just realized that all of this font change yesterday was only applicable on MSE, and it did change. Sorry, I was comparing on non-MSE sites yesterday >_<

Luuklag

How strange is that...

Journeyman Geek

11:29

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I suspect this is a "take a look" rather than "autoflag" notification

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:06

@JourneymanGeek sure, low weight, but still... can't see any way some random function can be spam.

So it just flood us with false positives.

I don't care for a flood, but when it becomes too massive, actual spam might be lost in it.

Journeyman Geek

Its onnneee post

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek it's not the post, it's the super weird spam reason. If other functions are spam key words too, it's going to be much more than one post.

Journeyman Geek

maybe!

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

!!/coffee !

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard brews a cup of jQuery for @!

Journeyman Geek

12:08

But its clear its not spam, its the first time I've noticed it and... uh...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

lol

Journeyman Geek

not really worth fussing over :D

Spevacus

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard FWIW: This reason was created to combat an extremely abusive troll (one that apparently SE had to step in for, iirc). It's not a great detection reason anymore, but it does catch some stuff.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

> This looks for particular patterns of non-English / non-human text such as hashes

This got nothing to do with the post reported earlier.

It had some code with function name.

(Written in English.)

Spevacus

Yes, the detection was made a couple years ago and apparently done in a bit of a rush so as to keep up with detecting posts it needed to catch. Like I said, it's not a great detection reason, but the only downside so far has been that Charcoalers have an extra few posts to review :/

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:19

Anyway.... meh, I said my part... I disagree this weird reason can be useful, but I also don't have the full picture.

Arulkumar

13:06

Seems some more issues, [New onboarding for review queues](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/363485/312043) is not working, reference: Learn more link in the [close votes review page](https://meta.stackexchange.com/review/close) redirect to page, instead of open as a popup.
I hope some old code was in place instead of new code.

Spevacus

Yeah it looks like we just rolled back the last few weeks or whatever.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Yup

If not a bug, really weird action.

Meta Andrew T.

Last few weeks? May? Mayday!

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

First suspect is some very critical bug, probably security related, that until fixed, just sent back in time.

Poor bug.

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Or some setting from one of the costumers ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

13:11

Hopefully they can easily restore all changes after deploying fix for whatever this is, otherwise it's going to be very messy...

@Luuklag :D

hyper-neutrino

14:44

i keep forgetting i can't do anything here

Ryan M

@hyper-neutrino If you'd like that remedied, you can ask for privileges in CHQ and they'll get inherited over here. Unfortunately, it's not smart enough to realize that you do have privileges there because you're a moderator (which, in fairness, would be fairly tricky to implement).

hyper-neutrino

@RyanM Ah, alright. (Right, I don't think I ever explicitly got any perms on CHQ and just automatically got them from the diamond). Should I ping you / someone over there or just leave a message?

Ryan M

@hyper-neutrino Yeah, you need a SmokeDetector developer to do it. Just a simple matter of editing users.yml and rooms.yml.

hyper-neutrino

oh, cool

rene

15:50

→ 58 messages moved to Chimney

Spevacus

@hyper-neutrino Give !!/amiprivileged a try here. Makyen has merged the PR that adds you to the explicit privileges list.

hyper-neutrino

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@hyper-neutrino ✓ You are a privileged user.

hyper-neutrino

yay, thanks!

Spevacus

Nice.

No problem!

terdon

15:59

@Spevacus I thought that was automatic for mods, is it not?

1 hour ago, by Ryan M

@hyper-neutrino If you'd like that remedied, you can ask for privileges in CHQ and they'll get inherited over here. Unfortunately, it's not smart enough to realize that you do have privileges there because you're a moderator (which, in fairness, would be fairly tricky to implement).

Never mind.

Spevacus

@terdon It is, but only if you... Yep.

terdon

Someone must have done it for me, I guess.

Spevacus

Basically Smokey just reads if your name is blue/you have a diamond on the chatroom it's seeing you from at the time you send a message. (It's a bit more technical than that but... yeah).

terdon

Ah! OK, so yes it is automatic for mods, but only on chat.se not the other chat servers.

That does make sense.

hyper-neutrino

well, MSE mods would probably have the reverse :P

Spevacus

16:01

Yep! Unless you're on chat.SO and you're an SO mod, or you're on chat.MetaSE and you're a Meta SE mod.

Ryan M

@Spevacus Well, actually it's exactly that technical.

10 Rep

16:13

Is this a mod tool that only mods can see, or is it public? It shows "annotated posts", whatever that is.

hyper-neutrino

@10Rep It seems to work for me as well. I think it's just "all posts with a post notice above it"

Mithical

@hyper-neutrino Yep. It's a public page.

Spevacus

So... What's going on with this question? I can see it but the timeline shows it was deleted.

hyper-neutrino

o.O

Spevacus

Might ask about it on MSO...

10 Rep

16:18

IIRC deleting a post automatically locks it from interactions... so maybe locking it again was what undeleted it?

Ryan M

That, uh, looks like a bug. Possibly the server blew up partway through the delete operation?

After the vote but before it took effect, maybe

Spevacus

I guess? It looks like it was red flag deleted, due to the delete and lock occuring at the same time.

Mithical

Or migrated.

Spevacus

It's also tripping people up in audits on it.

Wouldn't that show in the timeline?

Rob

Undeleted for use as Audit.

Ryan M

16:20

It looks like a red-flag deletion. Two reasons: 1) the deletion and lock are simultaneous, 2) there's a red-flag-deleted answer from the same user

@Rob Nope, audits use deleted posts all the time

Rob

K

Spevacus

Will it actually undelete it for use as an audit? I thought they could stay deleted for that to happen.

Rob

If it was deleted I couldn't see it.

10 Rep

I've seen a lot of deleted posts used as audits... that's definitely not the reason. And it is deleted...

Spevacus

I dunno. I'll ask about it on MSO in a bit. I"m really curious now.

Rob

16:23

^ Thanks.

Ryan M

Example audit of a deleted post

Meta Andrew T.

@Spevacus I believe it has been asked on MSO, let me try to find it...

Spevacus

Appreciated. I'm on my phone right now at lunch.

Otherwise I would do so atm

Aibobot

@hyper-neutrino Well technically - ChrisF has mod powers on all 3 servers, and Tink and I have mod powers on 2

hyper-neutrino

@Aibobot hello robot dog :D

took me a sec to realize who you were xD

Aibobot

16:29

lol

I use this account on my office PC

I try to seperate as much of my personal and work stuff as possible

hyper-neutrino

that's a good idea :P

my sock unfortunately does not have reputation to chat on MSE

Rob

@RyanM For me it says: "Question not found", and it links to this 404: stackoverflow.com/questions/67514448/… - You have more than 10K, but I've only one; so showing it that way to me would be an easy Audit to beat.

Ryan M

Ah, yeah, sorry, I forgot that it's only visible to the reviewer and 10k users. But it does show it as not-deleted in the review itself (even to non-10k users). Of course, it's obvious if you open the question in a new tab, but that's true of all audits :-)

Rob

Whereas the link I gave above the user has 751 rep, failed the audit, and I can see the question.

Spevacus

@MetaAndrewT. Any luck? I haven't been too successful, but it does sound somewhat familiar.

Ryan M

16:42

Yeah that one is in a very strange state.

Meta Andrew T.

@Spevacus sorry, I can't seem to find it either, though I believe I have read about it from somewhere and thus noticing this (and a few other posts from SEDE by rene)

Rob

Sep 8 '20 at 18:28, by Rob

2 days ago, by Rob

1 hour ago, by Rob

The mysteries of The Stack continue. 🧚

Aibobot

@hyper-neutrino I really suck at low rep socks :D

10 Rep

I found this, it seems like it applies to an answer but not a question. Could it be related?

Never mind, the original question wasn't migrated, so it can't be the same phenomenon.

Meta Andrew T.

It's a quite recent meta post, not older than 2020 I believe

Unless it's deleted for whatever reason

Ryan M

16:50

Somewhat related is this question of mine in which the requisite number of close votes were cast, but a question wasn't closed. Not quite the same, of course, since this is an entirely different vote type. But could be a similar underlying cause.

Rob

It probably isn't:

@mmking It was on MSO but was closed making it a rejected migration. — Taryn ♦ May 18 '15 at 19:58

That's 404 4 me.

Spevacus

I'm gonna write up a question on this for the sake of it. I tried searching other sites' annotated posts and could not find another example of this, so I'll just keep it to MSO.

Spevacus

17:03

Went ahead and posted it after unsuccessfully searching some more.

Glorfindel

17:14

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog meanwhile, the 0.5 version of the script is working again. I blame meta.stackexchange.com/a/366367/295232

Rob

So that's the giant S

Spevacus

We found it!

I wondered where they hid it.

Rob

17:37

It could be a big N, as the time is known to nanoseconds (whether accurately, or displayed with such precision, is another matter):

402

A: Command to get time in milliseconds

date +"%T.%N" returns the current time with nanoseconds. 06:46:41.431857000 date +"%T.%6N" returns the current time with nanoseconds rounded to the first 6 digits, which is microseconds. 06:47:07.183172 date +"%T.%3N" returns the current time with nanoseconds rounded to the first 3 digits, ...

Meta Andrew T.

17:57

@Spevacus aargh, I'm an idiot. It was actually discussed in the Tavern...

Mar 19 at 13:47, by Smitop

how can a post be deleted by Community but still publicly visible (despite no undeletions happening)?

Spevacus

Interesting!

Rob

and a Pirate.

Journeyman Geek

19:51

If this works, in a short while I am going to feel royally stupid, and smart all at once

hyper-neutrino

should we be concerned?

Journeyman Geek

We have a ~3gb git repo with a bunch of work stuff chucked in

I THINK I managed to pull just the latestish version + the branch I need

which is ~250mb

which should be enough to get my work done

(git clone depth --1)

I think I can unshallow it later

hyper-neutrino

oh that's cool. never knew you could do that

Journeyman Geek

20:12

@hyper-neutrino Oh, been looking it up cause of git server sucks :D

DavidPostill

20:35

R/A flag needed on chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/152781/… - NSFW image

hyper-neutrino

how is that still up o.O it's been 20 minutes and that is blatantly in need of a whole nuclear arsenal

Kevin B

maybe people close it immediately upon seeing it? (no idea what the image is, given the NSFW status)

hyper-neutrino

maybe? idk. it wasn't caught by smokey (the question), had a manual report

I posted (with warning) to my chat room to ask it to get nuked, not sure if it helped, but it's gone now

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DavidPostill

It's gone thankfully. It was full frontal nothing hidden fornication ...

Mithical

@DavidPostill cc @Jnat can we nuke that from stack.imgur please?

DavidPostill

20:41

I've no idea how to ...

hyper-neutrino

(I think only CMs can, I think the reply was just for context for JNat)

Mithical

(yeah)

DavidPostill

I've asked in TL

hyper-neutrino

image is gone \o/

DavidPostill

yep

Ann Zen at 1 Year Anniversary

22:34

Journeyman Geek

MSO?

Spevacus

yee

Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.

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