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01:17

At the same time, we don't want to disappoint those communities who are working hard to obtain a community to support their site before proposing, if their effort goes in vain

forest distrusts StackExchange

I think we should just shut down all the sites and replace them with one, huge site that takes any and all questions. We could call it Random.SE. To make it easy for people to remember the site, we could have them just go to stackexchange.com/b/. :^)

Journeyman Geek

01:39

@forestdistrustsStackExchange I think they did consider moving it all to SO, at least a bit

Rob

So we should call the site: to stir up or a mixture?

Shakshouka.com sounds exciting.

Journeyman Geek

a Melange?

forest distrusts StackExchange

@JourneymanGeek A few years ago 4chan did something like that for April Fools, merging multiple boards together. The results were absolutely hilarious.

Just imagine if here we merged DIY with Mechanics.SE or something. :D

Oh dear, or imagine Islam.SE and Skeptics.SE merged.

Rob

A similar suggestion, true, but mélange implies that the random assortment of everything combined is excellent, like chocolate on steak, squid ice cream, pickle milk, banana caviar, etc.

forest distrusts StackExchange

Ah. Yeah this would be more like... toothpaste and orange juice.

Rob

01:47

I have orange and other fruit flavored toothpaste; I enjoy it compared to extreme wintergreen mint flavoring.

forest distrusts StackExchange

oh my god

Rob

One of dozens of popular flavors:

It no one bought it, they wouldn't make it.

Rob

02:07

Farewell to Asteroid Bennu

►

PM 2Ring

02:18

@Rob Thanks. I don't understand how you got that PNG. The original link takes me to a page with this image: i.imgur.com/…

Rob

My edit was approved, so it's live now. I simply clicked on the OP's link, visited the website, right clicked (press and hold, touchscreen) and it said that the extension is PNG - so I simply added that to the original URL and used inline Markdown (preserving the OP's formatting; and obtaining the original blur free image). You're welcome.

@PM2Ring You are using this: https://i.imgur.com/8lr5HpQ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium, that's why, use this: m.imgur.com/8lr5HpQ

PM 2Ring

@Rob Ah. That explains it. I'll try to remember for next time...

Rob

I don't know why you got redirected, I had no such problem.

PM 2Ring

I just tried your m.imgur link, but got redirected back to the i.imgur .webp thing. Maybe it's because I'm using a phone browser (Samsung).

Rob

I am using an S9+, with FF Android.

PM 2Ring

02:32

I'm using an S9, with the Samsung browser (not FF or Chrome). I tried using the desktop view on imgur, and still got redirected.

It's a mystery... But thanks again for your help, and fixing the image on Math.SE.

But I guess it's a bit of a pointless fix, since the question's 1 vote away for being closed, due to being a homework dump, with no response from the OP.

Rob

@PM2Ring If I press and hold on the second link (mine) in the comment above and Share to the Samsung Browser I get the same result as you, but if I Share to the newer Samsung Beta Browser it defaults to the desktop and the goodness:

Old vs. Beta

PM 2Ring

Interesting.

Rob

It's free in the Samsung Store.

I prefer FF.

PM 2Ring

The main reason I use the Samsung browser is that handy button that fast scrolls to the top of the page. I might investigate the Beta... OTOH, I'm not a huge fan of being an unpaid beta tester...

On a totally different topic, this comment I posted yesterday on MSO has gathered a few upvotes. :)

People come to Stack Overflow (& other sites on the network) with misguided expectations, and then react as if it's our fault that those expectations are wrong. I like pancakes, but I don't go around criticizing the network because you can't order a stack of pancakes here. ;) — PM 2Ring 13 hours ago

Rob

SSaSamSammSammy ssosoftware is reasonably tested before releasing and not terrible for bug fixing; I've noticed no bugs - it's more that they have rigorous testing, but calling it Beta lets them release early; as opposed to "you being a tester".

Google KBD bug is back ^

@PM2Ring Yes, everyone's time has equal value; so two people is one dollar per second - based on average of 8 hour day average in my last half dozen jobs. Sometimes (frequently) it's not worth arguing if the other side isn't contributing half the cost.

PM 2Ring

02:53

Here's a "fun" story about a screwup caused by a Samsung dev mindlessly copying code from SO: stackoverflow.com/q/48610180/4014959 The OP of that question is a regular in the SO Python chat room.

Ryan M

@JNat cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21556662/john-harper

Rob

Hoist with his own petard

"Hoist with his own petard" is a phrase from a speech in William Shakespeare's play Hamlet that has become proverbial. The phrase's meaning is literally that a bomb-maker is lifted ("hoist") off the ground by his own bomb (a "petard" is a small explosive device), and indicates an ironic reversal, or poetic justice.The phrase occurs in a central speech in the play in which Hamlet has discovered a plot on his life by Claudius and resolves to respond to it by letting the plotter be "Hoist with his own petard". Although the now-proverbial phrase is the best known part of the speech, it and the later...

user400654

04:24

err, why is there a page 1/2 and next button in the middle of the answer list

Feeds

04:43

stackoverflow.blog/2021/05/11/…

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Meta Andrew T.

@Feeds ignore that it's not oneboxed, but... wut?!

Journeyman Geek

@MetaAndrewT. Yeah - I believe there's an official meta post coming later today. Apparently SE's still having a bit of trouble co-ordinating their announcements.

Catija

04:58

... can y'all please be kind?

user1271772

Certainly

Ryan M

06:29

@JNat cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/19895402/dazy-shuu-blog?tab=accounts

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Catija what did I miss?

@Feeds goodbye

Done my part.

@user400654 they changed the design of the paging.

Hi @rene! :P

Oh wait lol

Thought it's Den.

rene

Nope, we're both here

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

06:45

@rene @Zoe isn't here. :(

rene

Yeah, that is a bit of a quality drain

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

!!/bring Zoe

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No such command 'bring'.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

:(

Tinkeringbell

Maybe if we move everyone to the Den, Zoe will move to being here?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

06:46

She's not in Den either. :(

Oh she's pingable there though. :D

rene

Zoe Where Art Thou?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@rene Art of Code?

rene

06:57

sure, let's have a party. At a distance.

user400654

🎉

Tinkeringbell

There shall be no partying, not even at a distance.

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell -1

Tinkeringbell

What? Parties make noise, and I don't like noise.

rene

07:14

Let's make some noise !!!!!....

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell silent disco

Tinkeringbell

I've really not missed parties while things were locked down.

Though silent disco is acceptable, I guess.

rene

@Luuklag isn't that on Lowlands?

Luuklag

07:34

@rene dunno, you can do it everywhere I think

I don't think Chat is affected by this hideous font change?

This still reads pleasent

Journeyman Geek

Chat's not on stacks

nor do I feel its likely to happen soon

Luuklag

True, too much debt for that to ever be possible without a new chat redesign I think

Tinkeringbell

To be fair, I'm kinda getting used to it now. My eyes aren't as tired as yesterday, nor is my brain as fried, so that probably helps XD

Mithical

08:00

@Luuklag I mean, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to that, but I doubt it'll happen.

I did hunt for any questionable grammer in this post, but sadly found none to prove the point :P — Tinkeringbell ♦ 2 mins ago

@Tinkeringbell I do make an effort ;)

Tinkeringbell

Is the effort called Grammarly? Mine is :P

Mithical

Nope. I wrote it on the phone in a car, in any case.

Tinkeringbell

Oh wow. I couldn't have done that.

Mithical

I've never actually used Grammarly or anything similar. Been considering it.

Tinkeringbell

I really like it, it really helps me. To the point where I've started messing up more if it's not there XD

Mithical

08:06

My problem is that sometimes after switching languages too often I just lose all my words and grammar... in any language.

Luuklag

My chrome on Android has built-in grammar check

Tinkeringbell

08:18

There's a few more of those sprinkled across the post. Together with some perhaps questionable grammar, like 'over 100 millions unique users'. — Tinkeringbell ♦ 40 secs ago

I found some questionable grammar! :P

Journeyman Geek

39 seconds before I did.

Tinkeringbell

> 5+ years management experience leading a community facing team with millions of users

Wow. I don't envy the one that had to lead a team with millions of users on it!

That sentence is crooked as well.

Journeyman Geek

I think that's chopped and changed from the CM role description

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Probably, that may also very well be why there's a double space between 'facing' and 'team'.

Mithical

All in all... kinda sloppy, unfortunately.

Tinkeringbell

08:26

Yeah. Not the best kind of advertising.

Mithical

I can excuse proofreading errors, but I draw the line at misleading information.

Journeyman Geek

@Mithical I had a few conversations on some of the postings, not counting the ones I did publicly

Though meta.stackexchange.com/questions/357507/… is one

(granted I don't read them all, only the interesting ones :D )

Zoe the 1337 Princess

@rene You rang?

Journeyman Geek

AHHH WHO LET THE ---DOGS---WOLVES OUT?

Zoe the 1337 Princess

we let ourselves out, thank you very much :P

Luuklag

08:29

@Tinkeringbell I expanded my list a whole lot

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek That's to blame on @ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard then, Zoe clearly escaped from the Den :P

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell The leash is too long?

Journeyman Geek

@Zoethe1337Princess INCREASE THE SECURITY! PAD THE PADLOCKS! LOCK THE LOCKPADS! KEY THE KEYPADS!

I mean, Hi!

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag Good one :) You already had my vote though

Zoe the 1337 Princess

Hiya ^^"

Mithical

08:33

All the nitpicking kinda sets the tone for the job itself, also... you will be handling this bunch of smartasses who all have strong opinions on how you should do your job and will call you out on mistakes.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Tinkeringbell

@Mithical ... we didn't start the fire ...

Journeyman Geek

And that's just the mods? :D

Mithical

pfft :P

Journeyman Geek

@Mithical on the other hand, treat em right, and they get stuff done even before there's a problem, :D

Mithical

08:40

@Luuklag "dQ..." Hmmm... 🤔

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag I believe the proper term is "Bait" D:

Luuklag

You've seen the link too much @Mithical

Journeyman Geek

Blame @Zoethe1337Princess :D

Mithical

^

Zoe the 1337 Princess

I've been asleep, it's clearly Journeyman's fault :p

Journeyman Geek

08:43

I have proof

Zoe the 1337 Princess

That's a very sus link you have there :eyes:

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Zoethe1337Princess :P

rene

@Zoethe1337Princess yes, I guessed the party could use some schwung

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

09:06

@Zoe where's the cake?

Luuklag

Is it true that the accept event is not noted in the timeline of an answer, or its parent question?

Ryan M

@Luuklag two non-moderators can play at this hunting-down-questionable-grammar game :-)

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag I think so, yes.

Luuklag

Yeah, have my upvote @RyanM

Ryan M

You had mine as well, those double spaces were painful to see ^^;

@Luuklag Yes, it's impossible to tell when an answer was accepted without digging through the poster's rep history. It's annoying. There's a meta post about this...somewhere.

rene

09:11

Both answers failed to understand that the job application is setting a standard ...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

9

Q: Accept vote isn't shown in an accepted answer's timeline

Checking the timeline of an accepted answer of mine, I can't see the accept vote for my answer. As per https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/271754, it should be available: The accept vote is available on the accepted answer's timeline. This feature request also confirms that is has been available ...

Another good thing that used to work and went poof.

Like tag subscription. And other features that were just removed without any notice.

Zoe the 1337 Princess

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard The cake is a lie!

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Zoethe1337Princess :-O

JNat

@RyanM gone

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Also this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/272892/… I commented to Des there, to hopefully get it fixed :/

JNat

09:17

@RyanM gone

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag lost cause, deferred means "It's in the list, but won't be done in the near future" which means long years, in the best case.

Luuklag

I know @Sha but couldn't help myself anyways

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

They removed it for a reason, most likely.

Luuklag

Need to vent some frustration every now and then

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag punch ~~someone~~ something. ;)

Luuklag

09:20

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Probably because it took effort to keep it. It was easier to remove

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard nah, I'm a keyboard warrior

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag queries timeout, yeah.

So instead of wasting precious dev time on optimizing queries....

!!/coffee Bluefeet

SmokeDetector

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Bluefeet

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Maybe this will help.

Or Nick.

Ryan M

per Des, "This seems like a bug/missed usecase" so it probably wasn't intentional

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@RyanM meh, they changed something which indirectly caused it, that something was on purpose. And they won't undo it, so...

Still, if they would have planned to fix it any time soon, status-planned would be used. That's not the case.

Deferred means this:

:D

Luuklag

09:27

That pile isn't hearly as high enough ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

It's in the list, sure! But in the bottom.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Well, FIFO would say that that is a good thing :P

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell hear hear the shelfstocker ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell FIFO is a nice guy, LIFO too. :P

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag XD It's a good practice!

Rob

10:36

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Did that really "work", say there's more than a half dozen answers; you need to check each one to see if it was ever accepted, whereas if the record of accepts is stored in the question's timeline (since it's the question that accepts the answer) people only need to check one place to see what, when, and any changes to which was accepted. --- It's any Bounty (which appears, totalized, in a green box next to the associated answer) that ought to appear in the answer timeline; and

would clutter the question timeline if it appeared there.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob it was useful stat; maybe not ideal, but people used it.

Rob

It's still available.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob maybe, but only few would bother to go look for it, it's not that important. That feature was useful because it was simple to use.

Similar, but not same, is tag subscription. Once upon a time, before the overhaul of tag popup, you could hover over a tag, click "subscribe", and that's it - you got emails whenever new questions with the tags were posted. Now? You have to go to stackexchange.com and use the old and unfriendly "Filtered Questions".

Making things more complex for users is just... bad.

Rob

11:18

💤

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

🛏️

Rob

😀👍

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

11:55

Smokey disturbs @Rob's sleep. Not nice.

:P

Luuklag

luckily pings don't wake him up :)

nah, its just marketing

@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21510143/ramya-sai?tab=accounts

Tinkeringbell

While it's nice to know and thanks for that, what is the point of this announcement? As proved beyond any doubt by now, you're not looking for someone from within Stack Exchange community, you will rather bring someone from the outside. It's fine, I wish you good luck with that, but can't see the benefit of telling us you're doing it. — Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard 1 min ago

@Sha there's at least also a bit of info about someone leaving the company...

So there's some point to it.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell meh, just me being bitter. Edited some more juice into the comment.

Oh wait you oneboxed after edit.

Catija

I mean... y'all should know about it.

JNat

@Luuklag gone

Catija

12:03

And... you're kinda coming across really rude.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Catija it's "nice to know", yeah, but without real purpose. Sara never worked directly with us as far as I can tell, so it won't directly affect us.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I think you miss the point of that post, by a long way. And that contributes to the comment really showing the bitterness to the point of kinda being rude.

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Meta Andrew T.

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard eh, some mods got employed on SE.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Catija that's not my intention, in such case feel free to delete.

@MetaAndrewT. lol

In the distant past.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard O.o I did not expect you to say that XD

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:05

@Tinkeringbell which part?

Catija

It's extremely exciting that the company has decided that we need a VP! It means they're really thinking about the communities and want to give y'all a voice at the leadership table - even more than what Teresa is already doing.

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Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard "It won't directly affect us". But you saying that is a good thing ;-)

Catija

An executive who works directly with the CMs and hears about what the community needs is awesome.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I'm lost, lol.

Luuklag

@Catija what should we know?

Tinkeringbell

12:07

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard That's good, stay where you are. Someone might come to rescue you but it won't be me :P

Meta Andrew T.

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard you mean, like in 2018?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

It's an internal change in SE management, so it won't have direct impact we will be able to see.

Tinkeringbell

I do hope it has the impact Catija just described :D

Luuklag

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I don't know. I can recall some terrible interactions between Sara and the community. So her not affecting the community (or maybe more the other way around) is not true...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Luuklag better for me to not comment. :)

Luuklag

12:09

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard that is also a comment ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

lol

SPArcheon

knew it.....

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

But let's be realistic... such hire can take months.

SPArcheon

Mad Scientist

@Catija what happens above the CM level is very opaque to us, so it's hard to get excited. This could be good or bad, we'll only see this in a few years

Luuklag

12:11

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard True, but could also be resolved next week. It all depends.

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon Deception... The background wasn't invisible :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@MadScientist that's kind of what I tried to say, without success. lol

Luuklag

Strange thing the job offer has no closing date

JNat

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard if we hadn't posted, how long do you think it would have taken for someone to eventually notice Sara's diamond was gone and go to MSE asking "what happened to Sara?!?1?" We just decided to proactively get it out there, so y'all aren't left wondering. I don't think that's such a weird idea

Catija

@MadScientist really depends on the person. That's how it has been... but some people like being more hands-on when it comes to working with community. I think that'd be great in this case.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:13

@JNat not weird. Not bad also. Just.... less exciting than you see it from the inside.

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell I don't know what you are talking about and I never edited the link to make your message wrong

Mad Scientist

The stuff we see from that level is either mostly PR, occasionally quite encouraging PR that indicates positive changes, and then there's apologies for seriously messing up, nor non-apologies. In general we only see actions there that are negative, the positive part is quite invisible to us for the most part.

Catija

@Luuklag I don't think our job postings generally do.

Tinkeringbell

@JNat And well, this seems like a 'smart' post. I doubt many people would've appreciated a more standard 'Farewell Sara' one :/

Luuklag

@Tinkeringbell Yeah I think we then get back to my comment from earlier on ;)

Catija

12:14

Jay was really active on MSE, for example. He was our VP before Sara.

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon Ahhh, yeah. I must've been wrong, moderators are wrong all the time :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Catija who is Jay?

JNat

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard while what's to come can be exciting, for me the main goal of the post was to keep y'all in the loop, though

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

oh, Jaydles.

JNat

Jaydles, New York, NY, United States

50.9k 21 114 139

discussion feature-request area51 support status-completed stack-exchange profile-page

Luuklag

12:15

@Catija okay, culture difference I guess.

Mithical

I for one appreciated the post.

Luuklag

@JNat much appreciated

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Mithical you're not alone, most here do. :)

Luuklag

But that makes me wonder, is Theresa your sockpuppet @JNat?

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JNat

no comment

6

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:16

lol

Mad Scientist

@Catija Jay was great, but I didn't know he was a VP. I got one of my mails about an issue on another site answered by him when he was new, didn't think VPs do that ;-)

JNat

;P

Catija

They're never on camera at the same time... so can't confirm.

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Journeyman Geek

I thought he was "Vice President of People and Culture" or something?

Luuklag

@JourneymanGeek Titles are changed every 6-8 months ;)

Catija

12:16

That was at the end. He wasn't, originally.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

One Person Two Identities ;)

Luuklag

So Catija, Jnat you guys already applied?

Catija

Hahahahahahaha

No

JNat

lol

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag I donno, do they have enough Vices?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:18

They're looking for someone who is/was already at least VP elsewhere.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I don't think it says that?

Rob

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I've been awake for several hours, and am not sleepy.

Mithical

Prefer to keep your hands in everything personally? :D

Luuklag

@JourneymanGeek Then Tarryn might need to apply, I bet they have plenty of those with all those cuttingboards being made

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek implied

Journeyman Geek

12:19

And well - if you were a VP of I donno, toilet paper dispensers, you might not be all that good at it

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob you slept

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag I might have to break out the castle gif at this rate

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Mithical who?

SPArcheon

Can the vice replace each user avatar and name with a pony one? Or in case that wasn't possible, just Shadow's?

Luuklag

@JourneymanGeek que?

Mithical

12:19

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Cat & Nat

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon That's way below a vice's paygrade, when a simple mod could do that :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Mithical oh

Journeyman Geek

@SPArcheon I could. I just need you to leave 500 dollars in unmarked 2 dollar bills at the designated location...

Rob

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Does anyone?

Luuklag

2 dollar bills mmmmm

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

12:20

@Rob not now, too noisy

Luuklag

@Mithical Sure sounds like a gangster duo now

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@SPArcheon fine by me, I love to be surprised. ;)

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell the mod can change it once, but the vice can make it a rule.

Catija

@Mithical I just don't like managing. I want to focus on being in the communities and not having to be at meetings so much. While there's room to be more active as a VP, there's not as much as just being a CM.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@SPArcheon feature request: name/avatar change by CM and above can't be changed by the user or by site mods.

@JourneymanGeek my toilet dispenser at home is never empty, I count it as a big success. :D

Luuklag

12:24

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard People, we found our new VP

of toilet paper

Rob

3 hours ago, by Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

It's in the list, sure! But in the bottom.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob oh, you were sleeping on the pile?

@Luuklag yay! :D

Rob

12:38

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard opportunities for learnings, sharings, and careerings.

Tinkeringbell

@Rob You're forgetting spellings.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob true, the world of toilet paper dispenser is very dynamic and complex. I also share my knowledge with my family members, and can totally make a career from it.

Teresa Dietrich

Hello Tavern folks, how are you all

Tinkeringbell

Bored. And you?

(btw that's just me, I'm not speaking for everyone)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I should be working, but instead talk here about toilet paper dispensers. ;)

I even have BCP: stash of paper in my car trunk. :D

worked in the beginning of COVID: markets had no paper at all, I had stash in the car.

@TeresaDietrich guess that's the place to apologize for my comment, didn't mean to sound or be rude. Thanks for the post! :)

SPArcheon

12:47

@Tinkeringbell Now, if Teresa and JNat started speaking like Huey / Dwei / Louie to make Shadow go crazy that could be entertaining for a while. Furthermore, I made too much popcorn.

Teresa Dietrich

lol, i was just reading above

If i didn't post proactively, you know i would get called out about Sara leaving and the new job posting, just trying to be transparent and timely

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon If it's salty popcorn, I don't mind if you share!

Teresa Dietrich

so I'm a sock puppet now? Does that mean I get to stop all my other responsibilities and turn them over to @JNat?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@SPArcheon stash the popcorn, you might need it later. ;)

JNat

@TeresaDietrich eeeeeeek, please no

Tinkeringbell

12:49

@TeresaDietrich No, you got the concept of being a puppet the wrong way round ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@TeresaDietrich yeah, you got burned too many times with "Hey, why didn't you tell us about [change here]?!?!1?" :D

Teresa Dietrich

exactly @ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard you can ask the team, i was like okay, i need to post as this role goes live on our site

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@TeresaDietrich we have a local sock guru here. cough looking at @Tink cough :P

Reminds me, long time no mention of your socks, Tink. Got a new pair(s)?

SPArcheon

^ or you know, we could also make Shadow even more crazy if @Tinkeringbell switched to a pony avatar.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Nope, I didn't. Haven't seen any anymore either, I think they switched to merchandise with 'forget-me-not' flowers... if that's the proper English name.

@SPArcheon Hey, you already got me to drop my shape, don't push things.

Catija

12:53

Pony parrot?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@SPArcheon Shadow The Crazy Wizard?

@Tinkeringbell :(

SPArcheon

I mean... isn't it strange @ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard? @Tinkeringbell somehow knowing what happens in the Sugarcube without even being there?

Tinkeringbell

@Catija If anyone mentions another pony, I'll switch back to penis-shaped parrot.

Mithical

4 hours ago, by Mithical

All the nitpicking kinda sets the tone for the job itself, also... you will be handling this bunch of smartasses who all have strong opinions on how you should do your job and will call you out on mistakes.

;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I'm now tempted

Tinkeringbell

12:55

@SPArcheon All that shows is that there's a snitch in that room :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

p.... po..... pon..... pond!

Teresa Dietrich

is that a selling point @Mithical

Mithical

Depends on how you look at it.

Catija

@Mithical it gets a bit tiring, I think. Depends on the person.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Back to work, got a report to finish.... and follow up on local news, which aren't good... cya!

Tinkeringbell

12:56

o/

rene

@TeresaDietrich It is. I mean: you get to handle me ... if that isn't career changer I don't know what is ...

Catija

Handling blurry flowers is always fun.

Mithical

@Catija I'd expect so... it's not an easy thing to do.

Journeyman Geek

@rene I'm unclear on whether that's a selling point. Its even a bit blurry :D

Mithical

The flip side is that you know all those people are doing it because they're committed to the community.

rene

12:58

@JourneymanGeek I hear the new fonts make me sharper: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/52173432 ...

Journeyman Geek

@TeresaDietrich Well - it means people proofread stuff for you. It also means everything gets overanalysed sometimes :D

Teresa Dietrich

its a double edged sword :)

off to my full day of sock puppet meetings, later folks

Mithical

\o

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell Oh yeah, I gave up on finding my soldering iron, and ended up ordering a nice one I've been eying for years :D

So... it'll probably turn up tommorrow

Does mean my keyboard fix is delayed a month or so

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Bad excuse :P But if you needed that, I hope you enjoy the new one!

@JourneymanGeek Why, you could still do that with the old one, once it turns up tomorrow!

Journeyman Geek

13:11

@Tinkeringbell Was looking for an excuse. Else buying a 100ish dollar soldering iron to fix a 30 dollar keyboard makes no sense :D

@Tinkeringbell well yes :D

Luuklag

@TeresaDietrich Sounds fine by me

@JourneymanGeek No overnight delivery on soldering irons?

Journeyman Geek

@Luuklag Got it off aliexpress

cheap and slow

Luuklag

@JourneymanGeek Well that shouldn't be too slow, seeing you already live on the right continent ;)

They usually manage to get things to me in about 2 weeks time

Feeds

Building a space-based ISP

Ben Popper on May 11, 2021

There are requirements that make software engineers sweat. Massive distribution to thousands of nodes. High reliability and availability. Multiple distinct platforms. Rapid network growth. his is the world SpaceX’s Starlink program, which has set a goal to provide high-speed broadband internet to locations where access has been unreliable, expensive, or completely unavailable.

Luuklag

@Feeds What should we do with oneboxed grammar errors? ;)

Can we @ping Ben?

nope

Journeyman Geek

13:29

@Luuklag Its wildly variable :D

Its half the fun I guess

Luuklag

Yeah by the time you get it you forgot that you ordered it. Thats the extra fun part

@Sha your popcorn meme is about to be deleted

Luuklag

13:56

Really nice post you wrote @Catija. Good to see that Sara is more then the one incident that stained her relation with the community.

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