by this definition, once you begin eating a calzone, it becomes a bread bowl

Now I'm hungry.

Thanks.

Now you did it.

@Catija you can't start a conversation like this without sharing your favourite... come on!

@Mast Go drink some water. If you still feel hungry after, you're entitled to one healthy snack to tide you over until your next 'big' meal :)

Yeah, suggesting a food-related topic without answering it is mean!

@Tinkeringbell Oooh, Uh... I really like avocado BLTs

Do I have to earn my snacks now?

Rye bread.

I'm already working too hard for my money, with which I buy the snacks.

@Catija BLT is bacon, lettuce, tomato? I keep forgetting that.

Yep.

@Mast No, but since you're a responsible adult, you have to think carefully before you snack!

@Catija Then I won't touch it :P Never had avocado, but my opinion on tomatoes is widely known ;)

@Catija Sounds a bit like this user who used to also have a ♦ in their name! It seems that the ♦ got moved from their name to the "about me" section

@hyper-neutrino Nice to see another Waterloo user here! Sorry I left that chatroom the other day, it was 3am.

@user1271772 It doesn't let you put non-alphanumberic characters on your username last I checked...

@Anonymous When the was "the last time" you checked?

@user1271772 It's not in their username it's in the description.

@Catija I believe that it was previously in their username though, but got moved to the about me section.

@Anonymous @user1271772 meta.stackexchange.com/a/230654/369802 and meta.stackexchange.com/a/296354/369802 are relevant, go read them!

@user1271772 A few years ago.

@Nai54 As far as I'm aware, that's not a thing we do.

Diamond symbols (generally) are blocked in usernames. Whether there's a different font/unicode that's available other than the main one, I don't know... but it's blocked.

@Catija It's okay now, because the diamond was moved to the "about me" section, but there was a time when it looked a bit funny in Chat because there was this user with a BLACK diomand, whereas the real mods had blue diomands.

@Catija You're probably right. I feel like I have encountered that user before and they had a fake diamond on their name (I may be wrong - I just have a vague memory)? Maybe they found some loophole?

@Nai54 You're all over the place, weren't you just in the gender pronouns coversation an hour ago?

@user1271772 Which one? I may have...

@Nai54 There's more than 1 of those a day on this site? :P

@Nai54 I'm pretty sure the user had the diamond in their username and I might even have a screenshot but would have to look through files from long ago to get it. It's not too important though because it's been fixed.

@user1271772 eh, where have we met before? sorry, I don't remember you anymore so I don't remember when the other day was

@user1271772 you mean the bigotry one on the main meta?

oh I know which one

the one on Writing SE that led to a meta complaint?

@Nai54 Yea!

@user1271772 How did you stumble upon that?

@hyper-neutrino It was that night at around 2am when we were summoned to a chatroom because of a lot of flags, but the user that was causing problems got auto-suspended for 1 day due to too many flags, so we called it a night after a while. I said "need to go to sleep because it's 3am in Waterloo" and you said "I'm in Waterloo too!"

@Anonymous rooms only get frozen for lack of activity or if a moderator does it manually

@hyper-neutrino It was a chatroom on a site that neither of us spend much time on. We just came for the flags.

@Anonymous Same warning for you as for other denizens of "that" room: Stop bringing the topic up.

@user1271772 You make it sound like going to a restaurant (we don't eat here often, but come for the salmon) :D

Sorry @user1271772 but you've just been baited into a conversation that shouldn't be had. I kindly request you drop it too.

Wow new faces

Oh, I remember now! Sorry, didn't realize it was you since you're using a different username here :P

That's either a good thing or a really bad thing

@M.A.R. Lots of them. Now keep them in one piece this time, will you!

@M.A.R. is here. happy hour starts early!

Like this @Tinkeringbell person, can't recognize 'em. Welcome to the Tavern!

Please take the tour

@M.A.R. Where's my tourguide?

on subway?

ಠ_ಠ

The page just reloaded, strange. I haven't been ROed and I haven't been KMed...

@Tinkeringbell this is the internet. You're supposed to know all the things and no one is helping you

@rene Ah, well I'll see myself around then, I'm not going to interact with someone that just came out of a can of recycled covid air.

It's really a dog-eat-hotdog world out there

@M.A.R. I fit right in then :)

@Anonymous Says who? You were kick muted, I pressed the button myself. See your warning above, scroll up a little. M.A.R. talks to much.

Here we do one of the three things: Rant about SE policies, or make bad puns

@Tinkeringbell How am I kickmuted? I'm talking here...

I prefer this phrasing: M.A.R. is delightfully eloquent

@Anonymous Don't make me do it again just to illustrate. Kick mute first time is only like 30 seconds or a minute or so

Second time is longer.

YOU . . . You just made me refer to myself in the third person

@M.A.R. #3 is neglecting to state the obvious?

@M.A.R. You're welcome :)

I know you love doing that ;)

@JohnDvorak off-by-one errors + you don't know

I was waiting for the joke to come to mind

I don't wanna strain my comedic talent

I'm scared to ask this... But what does M.A.R. stand for?

That's how George Lucas died

Ah, it's this joke. I am disappoint.

@Spevacus Massively annoying ramblings ;)

True to form, then. :P

(I kid, I kid)

Wait, was that guy George Lucas or his cousin

Who cares...

Okay maybe I wasn't kidding.

@Tinkeringbell one other rule of the internet is you're supposed to be correct and accurate about all things or they will use it to destroy you in an unrelated argument

@M.A.R. Me, my and myself had a chuckle about that.

Like, I bring up cats are cuter than parrots, and you would destroy me by saying George Lucas isn't funny

@M.A.R. I know. It's shortly summarized as 'Anything you say can and will be used against you' :P

@M.A.R. Who's George Lucas again?

Please don't use cans. They pollute the oceans

@M.A.R. Meh. Fish are overrated anyways.

Pollute the oceans, build a dam around everything, and use the new grasland to raise cows.

MAR = MARina the ARtist with Random Access Memory

There, that's how a Dutch person handles such things.

They're mostly made of plastic nowadays

Plastic is more expensive than fish

This is the hidden recession that will collapse the economy! Among other things

It also floats, which means that if we can get enough plastic into the ocean, we can just start farming on top of it, and save some money on dams.

I have the best ideas when I should be sleeping! XD

@Tinkeringbell Who knows if the oceans get polluted enough, fish may evolve to walk on land! Then we get walking sharks... all because of you (jk, ;) )

@Nai54 I'd take one as a pet!

@Tinkeringbell on a related note, if Earth was getting colder, I could have come up with the genius plan to have giant herds of cows expressing methane into the atmosphere

That really works well in my dreams

@Nai54 Here: google.com/…

@Tinkeringbell always on the bright side, you are (sorry re-watched a star wars yesterday)

@Tinkeringbell the secret the big industries keep from you

@Nai54 What did yoda say when he saw himself in 4k resolution?

Einstein discovered his theories of relativity while struggling in a bathroom at 3 a.m. Sadly, this detail has been lost to history

And that's how I know I will be the next Einstein

Mark my words

@M.A.R. I mean, it could work, probably. Though I would throw in a few pigs as well :) A lot of people on this world really value bacon.

@M.A.R. If that's what it takes, I hope I will never become a next Einstein....

I hate waking up at 3 am to go to the bathroom....

You have to make sacrifices

No one said it'd be easy

No one ever said those sacrifices had to be me though.

Guinea pigs work fine.

@M.A.R. When you become the next Einstein, make sure to keep your fly done up when you give your lectures: youtu.be/3LU6kbao3vo?t=215

Cue 80's montage

@Tinkeringbell even worse while camping... at least in a house there are no imaginary serial killers or bears out there :)

does pushups

aces history test

@Nai54 Hahaha true!

or mice.

builds a computer

Mice are the worst when camping.

puts on science glasses

Don't forget your lab coat

Your mom will kill you if you stain your good shirt.

Too busy kicking bullies here

@Tinkeringbell Just wait until you get to my age :/

@DavidPostill I am hoping to avoid that problem by not having a prostate :P

@user1271772 will do. Will keep all the insides fresh for future struggles.

@Tinkeringbell u meanie

runs away crying

@M.A.R. How's that mean! I'm trying to prevent you from making a mistake that would make your mom mad!

makes the words sound as hurtful as possible

@M.A.R. Hey you said you would kick bullies not run away crying you coward ;)

@M.A.R. Heh. Try harder, they're still just words :P

she also pushed me down the stairs! Of the Empire estate building!

@Tinkeringbell But you do have Skene glands

@DavidPostill Huh. TIL XD

Well I still hope those won't be trouble!

@Nai54 Tink does not fit the normal appearance of a bully, which is a white teenage blond boy whose dad owns the place

And if they are, I can always ask the doctor to remove them.... the answer will probably be 'no', but asking won't hurt, right?

Depends on the doctor

@M.A.R. White, check. Teenage... on the inside? :P blond... almost. boy... definitely not though I can pretend to be, it's the internet after all. And how do you know my dad?

@M.A.R. Mine is... stubborn.

That's a new adjective for doctors

I would dream my doctor to be stubborn

It's... on the one hand it's good, on the other it's sometimes very frustrating. I've been trying to get her to help me set up a living will that includes criteria for euthanasia, and she's just like 'you're too young to be even wondering about that'.

I'm almost 30 and morbidly obese. At what point am I going to be miserable enough that we can talk about this?

Has cold hands?

People keep telling me to think about my pension. The pension fund is going to be bloody ruined by the time I'm supposed to start draining it...

Oh yeah, that's another one.

@Tinkeringbell That's probably something for a lawyer anyway, you have to be careful with how you write that stuff so that doctors can't easily ignore it. Though I'm more thinking along a DNR and not euthanasia, not sure you can even determine that in a will

Except people here don't tell you to 'think about it', since most of it goes automatically anyways. It's up to you to start thinking that it might be drained dry by the time you might want to take a pension.

@MadScientist True, but a doctor should be able to provide some input on what criteria you could use? Basically one of the first sentences (barring the introduction) of a government guideline on euthanasia statements says 'it is useful to talk about this with your doctor and family and write them down'

She's just refusing to have any conversation at all though, based on the 'you're too young'.

I have questions I want the doctor to answer before I go pay a lawyer...

Ignore the family, talk to the doctor anyway.

@Mast It's the doctor that's the problem :P I wasn't really planning on telling my mom/dad, though my brother's are open enough to the idea that I'd probably share with them.

@Tinkeringbell If the doctor is no help, go to a different one. Dentists are hard to trade in many areas, but doctors should be doable.

Are you sure you can even set up euthanasia in your will? The typical cases are provisions on when to stop treatment

@MadScientist Yeah, you can. It's legal here.

I know that it is legal, but I would be a bit surprised if you can trigger it with your will while you're not able to actually consent

@MadScientist That's... precisely why you make the will when you're in your right mind, and put in a clause that things like dementia aren't an escape route.

It's tough, but if you make one when you're say 30, and you keep that up until you're 60, discuss it with your doctor regularly, reconfirming and restating the wishes in the will, and then at 62 you get dementia, you have a strong case.

I know it is no absolute guarantee, but whoever decides to ignore my wishes can bear the full brunt of my assholery in case my mind goes before my body.

huh, looks like the rules are a lot farther than I expected in the Netherlands

But the most important thing for this is to assign someone you really trust to execute your will. And that person has to understand your wishes, and be willing to actually enforce them

With a disclaimer that I'm not a laywer and this was information found through a few clicks around some websites (including the 'rijksoverheid' ones, official government pages)... yeah. I do think not many countries allow this.

@MadScientist True.

Finding such a person is going to be difficult, but I think I know a few that might be willing to step up to such a task :)

@MadScientist In theory, yes. In practice, it goes wrong at times.

@Tinkeringbell It doesn't have to be family.

@Mast I know ;)

Heck, you could write me down if all else fails. Most of the Netherlands is within 200km of me.

Hahaha I'll try to remember that :P

I'm done with family being stupid. If this is what you need, this is what you need.

@Mast I think chosing someone with no real relation would be a factor that could easily be used to attack the decisions

I think I should be fine though, I was thinking of also talking about this with one of my best friends :) She would probably understand :)

@MadScientist Not if you go to a notaris with it.

@Mast Heh. Your family stupid as well?

Some of them...

Don't have to be stupid. You need someone that cares about you, but still is able to let go

@MadScientist Most of my family... is stupid ;) As in, they say they care about me, but not enough to let me go :D

I've seen what dementia and brain damage does to people.

You don't wish it on your worst enemy.

Same.

Though the little experience I have with brain damage is more sad and sweet, it still sucks enough that I know I wouldn't want it for myself.

☕️

i noticed my sense of smell is off again today... hope that's not a precursor to a relapse

If you wake up with a fever tomorrow, get tested.

that or the coffee today just smelled like shit

Saturday Night Fever?

@user400654 maybe someone pulled a prank on you?

nah

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