uh

No

^ woods near where I grew up where I used to hike daily

@LinkBerest there's been cobra sitings in my neighbourhood :D

and my roomie has to do his duties on grass so...

yeah, we had only had to deal with the occasional bear

AND someone had our local cats relocated

so we have had rats

(big rats)

oh, so now the cats are scared to come back?

naw

they kept the rat... and snake population in check

there was this old black one that apparently chased off at least one cobra. Also fell sleep in a drain and everyone thought it was dead.

@Aibobot if they are being big scaredy cats - you might want the cat breed I grew up with

my uncle had one - loved that lazy (insanely big) cat

@LinkBerest street cats :D

it used to sit on the piano - length-wise

He also had two Irish-wolfhounds so didn't have many "critter" problems :)

...neighbor problems sometimes (neighbor did not train his pit very well and then got made when Wily - the cat - beat it senseless after it tried to bite him....it wasn't stupid enough to try for the wolfhounds - as it was the size of their poops)

hah

Mummy (one of the other local cats) would swat any dog who got too close on the nose

no claws

oh, when the cat is big enough - it don't need no claws

or ornary enough

also true

fear a small but determined cat

then there was the ginger cats.

which were friendly - I think the 'last' one I got to know was this big grizzled one eyed tom

who would block your path randomly and demand you provide tribute in belly rubs :D

heh, my wife doesn't understand why I like cats (I also like most dogs to be fair) but to me it was never a cat vs. dog it was a role that needed to be filled

dogs stopped coyotes

cats stopped critters

big cats did both

well

my folks don't like cats in general. For some reason we're ok with dogs

also can't legally own a cat in an apartment here

but then - I'm country and she's a yankee so there's always a disconnect there

personally I like anything that won't kill me :D

@Aibobot boo

lol, wolfhounds will only kill a person with slobber

same with my gran's GSD

they also have a pair of streetdogs now (was 3, but parvo got one :/) and their predecessor was basically a born ratter. Also stashed them neatly out of sight, which was a problem.

actually, my experience with GSD is that they are meaner by nature (though certainly a great trainable breed) - my experience with them is also entirely as military dogs and their one of my favorites though

@LinkBerest depends on training, and such

yeah, hence the expanded explanination (they were still awesome)

but both the ones in the family, and a lot of the ones I see here (including ex-military) are pretty sweet fellas

there's a white GSD who retired from the military that lives nearby

really well behaved, good with kids, sat on my foot and demanded pets despite never having seen me before...

The wolfhounds were the nicest dog breed I've met - but I've also seen what they will doe to a coyote which they see as threatening their "pups" so ....

Get a monkey, they've armed themselves with bioweapons.

robot monkeys should be the next advancement

bit too big for apartments (and we have size limits ._.) and they live... not that long?

Ash's hit 15 and seems healthy other than his kidneys

@Aibobot well, my uncle ran a farm so lotsa room and good life expectance due to this (fresh diet + room) but yeah, very not-apartment friendly breed

also, my parents feel a pet is too much work

so we got a dog by accident

literally is the list of allowed breeds

in theory that's only for 'government' housing but...

had a spitz once - pretty good dog & I love terriers (excluding the very small, tiny, super-specialized breed versions which are just mean to the animal in my book)

yeah

I was thinking of adopting or getting a westie or wheaten (but ugh, the latter is not on the list) in future after I move out and ash passes on

(Might take ash with me, IDK :D )

westies are really good dogs (have a bit of a yip & digging phase you have to get through but that's standard with terriers)

yup

I love schnzuzers

but the voice...

Ash thankfully got the voice from whatever his paternal side is :D

Snauzers squeak.

hah, yep

Was going to get a Wheaten before all this covid stuff happened - might still next year

donno if that's just the minis

nah, they are all squeaky (the minis are worse but still) - my godfather had 2 and 2 wiener dogs

ah, they're too big for HDB,14 kg, HDB limit is 10...

I could not own a weiner dog

it would get extremely fat

they do those sad eyes of doom

....one of his did

and my parents are very asian

"THE POOR DEAR, HE IS ALL SKIN AND BONES"....

the other was the most mischievous pup I've ever known

would have gotten fat if it wasn't getting chased around the house so often

then would get cornered and out would come the "puppy eyes"

...and then my godfather would give him a treat

.......you know that dog also probably got fat just not quick enough for me to notice before I moved away

@Rob and if I'm advancing it to robot monkeys: I need robot pirate monkeys

why?! well, if you need to ask you just don't get it

@Aibobot @JourneymanGeek Hey, can you please change that image into a link? It's a non-HTTPS image and triggering a security warning, and the server doesn't support HTTPS.

uhh

ok

The image doesn't load via HTTPS, so a link is better, to avoid an "Image not found"

One sec

On my phone

uploaded it.

Thanks, the security warning's gone now.

I keep forgetting about that :D

also as a mod - not having unlimited edits sucks :D

sdc coffee

@rene brews a cup of Americano for @rene

That's not coffee

something something canoe?

!!/watch pillsfact\.com

@SonictheMaskedWerehog You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4269 for you.

!!/watch now-u-know\.com

@SonictheMaskedWerehog You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4270 for you.

lemme try something

sdc 2approve

@JohnDvorak No such command '2approve'.

darnit

sdc approve 4269

@rene PR #4269 is not currently open, so I won't merge it.

@JohnDvorak you have them all approved?

not my doing

oh, ok

got it, thanks

my co worker is asleep sitting down

with his head balanced on his thumb

it is a work of art.

LOL

sdc coffee coworker

@rene brews a cup of Macchiato for @coworker

it is quite impressive

what is

oh the sleeping while sitting?

I can hibernate.

@SmokeDetector you rebel against @rene ?!

The message sounds... human. Bot expected to post something like "Can't merge PR #4269 since it's not currently open". ;)

@JohnDvorak Americano?

> Caffè Americano is a type of coffee drink prepared by diluting an espresso with hot water, giving it a similar strength to, but different flavor from, traditionally brewed coffee. The strength of an Americano varies with the number of shots of espresso and the amount of water added

Wikipedia is never wrong! :D

Where is everybody?

Rushing to try and finish 20 things before the sprint ends in 30 minutes.

Are we supposed to close questions that used to be "too broad" but aren't multiple questions as "needs clarity"?

@Aibobot That's how I usually do it

@M.A.R. either one

@M.A.R. yes.

@Aibobot Yes

@M.A.R. No

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Yes.

friday!

@M.A.R. May Be

Is there a way to find edit suggestions that have been rejected by reviewers but overridden to 'Approved' by the post owner? (the fact that the post is now considered to be "Approved by User1 and User2" when they both rejected is also ridiculous, but not harmful) The suggestions are all listed under 'Approved' in the 10k review tools. It would be very helpful if they would be under 'Controversial' instead.

I saw some related questions, but nothing about user override, and I believe that in the first case the question still shows up under the 'Controversial' category.

I shouldn't have to be looking at this, but when high rep users start accepting obvious spam-edits on their own posts and you only find out because someone flagged it days later...

@MetaAndrewT. where?

@Discretelizard probably only in SEDE

@ShadowWizardWearingMask not really here though...

Here neither.

but since tomorrow's holiday, I'll assume today's already friyay...

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Yeah, I was afraid of that. This should be visible in the 10k tools, IMO. I think I'll make an FR. Or would this be a bug? Expected behaviour for me would be that these show up in 'Controversial', but the review being marked as if it were accepted is 'by design' (a rather poor design IMO, but still by design).

@MetaAndrewT. Lucky you!

@Discretelizard Is it one user that suggested the spam edits?

Or, is it just the one user (either the one making the edits or the one accepting them?) that you want to investigate?

@Tinkeringbell No, it was just a single spam-edit, I was using the plural for an unspecified amount. (or is this a specific grammatical construct? Plural seemed natural to me) It was an anonymous edit, which are listed in the 10k tools. But that was the second 'accepted by owner, rejected by all reviewers' edit I rolled back and encountered by accident today, so I was wondering how many slip under the radar. If it was just a single user I can just look at all their edit suggestions.

@Discretelizard Yeah, I wanted to point that out, that you can either check all their edit suggestions, or check a specific person's review activity.. I just wasn't sure if you were having 1 bigger problem with 1 user, or were seeing different people do this ;)

@Discretelizard since it's a new feature, it can't really be a bug as we don't know how that new feature was/is supposed to work exactly, in comparison to existing tools. So better mark it as feature-request, yeah.

As a bug it might just get a quick status-bydesign.

@MetaAndrewT. what holy day?

I'll celebrate Holy @M.A.R whenever it occurs.

;)

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Yeah, that's what I would expect as well. Thanks.

@Discretelizard cheers!

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Eid al-Adha

oh

oh

@LinkBerest youtu.be/XXnlVlkkkxM we were talking about it just today :D

@MetaAndrewT. They're closing quite a few mosques over here, because they can't guarantee social distancing... only a few are remaining open.

(specifically for Eid al-Adha only)

@Tinkeringbell is that not a good thing right now?

@Tinkeringbell Lucky you?

@MetaAndrewT. I don't have to go to a mosque anyways :P

But then, less mosques = more people in the same building...?

@MetaAndrewT. Yeah, that's the topic of conversation over here now.

It's also a regional shutdown, so people may just spread out across the country (small country, you can drive to the other side in 5 hours so if you have friends/family you can stay with... )

Basically, we're expecting this to make things worse, not better ;)

Ouch.

hello, I hope this is the right place to ask. On some questions the layout is broken for me and then I can't read the whole text. Is there something I can do about it? here is a screenshot: imgur.com/a/6iAo80V

@undefined What browser are you using?

@Spevacus Firefox

@undefined Hmm... what version?

@Spevacus 52.9.0 (32-bit)

@undefined You're running Windows XP, aren't ya?

@undefined Hi and welcome, this chat room is an open topic and yours is especially fine. First of all, you might be interested in the community-curated FAQ on Which browsers are officially supported, and what else do I need?

@Spevacus I'm at work and here we use Windows Server 2003 sp2

@undefined wow that's ancient. It's no different than using IE6.

While it's not 100% correct, SE tends to support only newer versions

I'm pretty sure most websites are broken for you, not only SE. @undefined

@MetaAndrewT. hello, oh so it is because my browser is too old? Then it is okay. I didn't know it would cause problems

@undefined Yeah Firefox has been updated quite a bit since then, and SE only supports relatively recent versions. Your bottleneck is your OS in that case, since Firefox won't let you update beyond that version for that OS (as far as I'm aware)

You better off using your phone to browse SE. :)

I just wasn't aware that the broken layout is caused by the browser

The server sends HTML, CSS, and JavaScript to the browser; How it's being parsed and displayed is the browser's responsibility.

@Spevacus yes right, I cant update the browser any further

No worry, and yeah, that's the problem with competing standards, I guess...

And in recent years SE made major changes to design, moving to design that is easier to fit to different screen size, in order to have better mobile experience for users (aka "responsive design")

@ShadowWizardWearingMask ah I understand. And when the server send something which only works in newer browsers then my old one will display it incorrectly, right?

@undefined exactly

Precisely!

Quick question: Can you have two users on the same SE site with the exact same username?

Mhmm.

Yes, username is not unique

Luckily JavaScript is less sensitive to changes and "lasts" much longer, so basic features should still work, but the design itself being broken is expected.

alright, then I finally know why it's happening. Thank you all for your help and support :)

@Ollie Go over to SO's user search and search for "Ollie" :)

@undefined cheers, and have a cup of...

!!/coffee undefined

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Cappuccino for @undefined

@Spevacus already did. There's like, four other users with my name.

yummy

Or the Jeff Atwood and this Jeff Atwood...

!!/latte Ollie.

@Ollie No such command 'latte'.

Aw, man.

@Ollie well try counting the Dan's.

Wowee :)

@Ollie you can't cheat Smokey! ;)

@Shadow I can't have latte?

:)

Just try enough times, and statistic ensures you'll have one... ;)

sdc coffee Ollie

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Espresso for @Ollie

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Ristretto for @Ollie

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Espresso for @Ollie

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Latte for @Ollie

Here ya go.

@Shadow stop it:)

sdc coffee jQuery

glug

@MetaAndrewT. brews a cup of Espresso for @jQuery

you wanted a latte, you got a latte. :P

@ShadowWizardWearingMask, no, I got several.

Which is good.

Remind me, is jQuery coffee or tea?

Because I wasn't the only one drinking it.

@MetaAndrewT. coffee

Last one is...

sdc coffee ShadowWizardWearingMask.

@Ollie brews a cup of Cappuccino for @ShadowWizardWearingMask.

Well someone should add that unicode magic Smokey has for blame in the coffee command as well, to let us choose the coffee. ;)

Sometimes I get tired of plain black coffee.

If we could request some strong black with milk and sugar (something I have only occasionally:), that would be great.

!!/coffee

@Spevacus brews a cup of Macchiato for @Spevacus

!!/+500reputation

@Ollie No such command '+500reputation'.

Sorry Smokey :)

!!/blame

@DavidPostill It's rene's fault.

@DavidPostill no way :)

TRUE!

!!/blame Spevacus

@Ollie It's user400654's fault.

Humph.

!!/scream

@Ollie No such command 'scream'.

What commands are there?

@Ollie Check 'em out here: charcoal-se.org/smokey/Commands

!!/lick

@Spevacus licks ice cream cone

!!/amiprivileged

@Ollie ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

Roar.

Ooh, !!/tea

Is there an easy way to join all SE sites at once?

Apparently not :D

Do you think there should be one?

Hmm. Smokey gets angry if you're poking them too much.

I find it kind of frustrating that I have to go through the "Join this community" stage when clicking on a Smokey-spam-report that's on a site I'm not registered at.

Like that one a few minutes ago.

@Ollie apparently if you're a CM, you need to do it manually on every site when you first get hired ;D

LOL. Part of the onboarding process, eh?

If you can suffer through ~180 "Join this community" presses, you might be dedicated enough to be a CM. Maybe. ;D

Spam.

The dog ate it already, it seems

@Tinkeringbell, yeah.

Efficient.

aw

ayyy

You're faster following spam reports at the Charcoal HQ

But it's a lot harder to grab them out there ;-)

The Tavern catches older, unresponded-to Smokey reports. You can sit in Charcoal and help nuke spam posts to your heart's content, assuming you're quick enough ;)

@JourneymanGeek every site?

Every site.

Do you have to if you're a mod?

naw

Naw. You're only a mod on the site you get elected/appointed on.

Good.

I'd kind of like to be a moderator some day...

Well... and on chat.SE as a chat mod.

So - general conditions for being a mod

1) win an election

2) don't work for SE

3) your chat parent profile MUST be a site you are a mod on

Minimum of 30 minutes a day is recommended, but I do a surprising amount of modding on my phone

Oh

@JourneymanGeek on your phone?

How do the flag dashboards handle on mobile?

@Ollie You probably won't ;-P

an SO account is useful but not essential

@Spevacus I usually go for low hanging fruit

@πάνταῥεῖ no, I won't! :)

That would be h3ll.

@Ollie as someone who's allegedly a slightly experienced mod...

> Allegedly

Just don't refresh people's profiles from mobile and everything will be fine.

there's often no rush. Find a community you like, spend time there, and you might get shanghaied into it eventually

@Spevacus thanks :)

I was going to say that.

Spelling optional

I think I was 4-5 years on SU before I became a mod. @DavidPostill was under a year... :D

but highly recommended.

@Jernimun Giik sometimes it's important :)

Meta was a bit of an odd one, and I don't know how exactly I got picked :D

Gotta go now, ta!

Later!

@Ollie I do a lot from my phone, especially because I (used to) take the bus pretty often and not be near my computer... which doesn't work so well in the first place.

also depends on the phone

@JourneymanGeek Just under 3 years actually :)

I thought you didn't have an yearling badge?

@JourneymanGeek I think I was missing the electorate badge :) Coz no election to vote in ...

oh right

my bad

EVERYTHING ELSE I SAID is true.

Everything? ;)

except the things that were not?

But about being a mod, mostly!

@JourneymanGeek Okay. I think I can agree with that ;)

@ShadowWizardWearingMask 3 years after?

Daiso is still amazing and delightful

yup

More bread 3 years later.

@SmokeDetector :(

I'm at 60K again. I think I have those bounties compensated by now.

@rene less than half than me?! That's just wrong. :D

You know what.... it's time to...

Done.

Clock is ticking.

@JourneymanGeek my aunt used to make a "spice" mix with coffee, salt, and ... other stuff ... then temper the chocolate, sprinkle on "spices", and roll into bars. She'd sell them as homemade candy bars and everyone loved them.

that clock looks broken

or its stuck in a time loop

@ShadowWizardWearingMask :D

@user400654 well it gives the general idea...

@MadScientist Have you seen this user? physics.stackexchange.com/users/207641/aspiring-mad-scientist

4 rows of users, the most we've had in a long time I think!

@AnnZen is not even in there.

@user1271772 Depends on your screen size. Mine is still stuck with only just three rows, which is pretty normal.

Good point. I was able to make it only 1 row, by zooming out.

But it does seem we have more users than any time in the recent past.

Like I said, three rows is pretty much the average here, has been for a long time.

So I doubt the validity of that conclusion.

You pretty much say that everything I say is wrong, so there's no point arguing with you.

Well, I could try to defend against such an accusation... but I refuse to cooperate in your self-fulfilling prophecy, so congratulations.