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7:00 PM
What are the rules? Just mushrooms or any food?
 
Rob
@Catija Her profile says "staff" and "Product Designer", so that's more accurate than my shorthand terminology.
 
Shog is here!
 
Lies
 
Hax?
 
I'm just hunting mushrooms
 
Rob
7:15 PM
TBF, They only posted on MSO, and not the main, so that's why they have 101; not from locking.
 
@Shog9 those are not mushrooms
But you can still make a good soup from them.
Dang text prediction is awful
 
Chat on mobile is suffering incarnate.
 
Try Slack on mobile. Then you will know what suffering is
 
@Tinkeringbell I hear it is better to start with pregres though.
 
Ingress
 
7:24 PM
@Shog9 Is that a dare? ;D
 
@Spevacus actually I like it, except one HUGE flaw, can't reply from transcript.
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask !ereh si gohS
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Oof, yeah. Agreed.
On the latter part
 
@Spevacus do you... Often take dares that end in suffering?
 
@Shog9 Hey that was fun! Back when the outside world wasn't lava lol
 
7:24 PM
@Shog9 Uh... Next question? :D
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask you can, just gotta flip to desktop mode and tap very carefully
 
@Shog9 yeah that's what I do as last resort
 
I had a userscript at one point that made it easier, not sure where I put it
 
It feels like spending tons of efforts on something that should be really simple.
@Shog9 /dev/tools
 
Rob
7:26 PM
It's worse with my browser's breakage, I have to flip to landscape mode sometimes to retrieve the text entry box.
 
@Spevacus do you like wax? ;)
 
What crazy browser is that?
 
Rob
Ear or body?
FF
 
@Shog9 FF, he already admitted using it
 
Carnuba
 
7:28 PM
Dang mobile also makes me slow
 
This, is true
 
2slow
 
Rob
It's a lack of wax
 
^
 
7:28 PM
It's the 5g waves baking your brain with their Coronas
 
How many times have you been hit with a corona wave from your nearest 5g tower?
I've lost track of mine.
 
Thought it's alien scheme to purify humanity
Beep
 
Well, it is doing a poor job of it
 
Rob
It's Whawhaw, doing a brain probe
 
7:30 PM
does this conversation make anyone else want a beer?
 
Don't you have one already?
 
If I worked from home...
 
Shadow, serve Link a beer
 
@LinkBerest yeah the 8% alcohol beer I had last week.
 
I have a whiskey and coke - its not the same
 
7:31 PM
Where's our !!/beer command
 
Rob
🍺 there you go!
 
Oh that'll do 🍻
 
....I thought we had a beer command (is it only tea?)
either way - thanks for contributing to my increasing state of inebriation ;)
 
Rob
🍸 for JB types; shaken not stirred.
 
!!/coffee @LinkBerest Sober up, mate
... C'mon smokey, don't do me like that
!!/coffee @LinkBerest
Alright, I'm out.
 
Rob
7:33 PM
!!/wine
 
@Rob No such command 'wine'.
 
the commands only work for people who are on SmokeDetector's list
 
Rob
No whining!
 
That would cut out 90% of chat in the tavern lol
 
Took me a while to find, but here you go!
@Link ^
 
7:35 PM
I do like their houblon
 
@LinkBerest no, coffee should work for anyone
 
Rob
 
!!/coffee
 
@Mithical brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Mithical
 
actually this is my day off so I am actually having a few whiskeys and cokes (w/a few nice Irish red ales as a chaser)
 
7:37 PM
@Rob candle
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask I do indeed enjoy candles.
 
@Spevacus whatever floats your boat... ;)
 
I'll... float your ... boat?
 
Also, no pain no gain, also my motto. :D
@Spevacus doubt you can, but feel free to try...
It's a heavy boat.
Yay +30 to Maccabi
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Why not all of the above:
 
7:40 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask What sport?
 
The sport of blank rectangles, lovely
 
Rob
Bball
 
Lol upgrade your fonts
 
@Rob ...baseball?
 
7:41 PM
Basketball.
 
@Rob not base
@Spevacus true!
 
Rob
Blackball
 
Blanket Ball
 
bowlingball
 
7:42 PM
Body Ball
 
Billiard Ball
 
Rob
Done with shoe polish
 
@Rob wrong location
 
Looks like one of those "super balls" we used to play with as kids
 
@Mithical also, not many sports where +30 is possible... ;)
 
7:43 PM
I wouldn't know
A +30sec lead is pretty significant for a breakaway from the peloton
 
Empty hall, so weird.
@LinkBerest what, the basketball? 🏀
@Mithical not seconds, points. It was 80:50
 
@Rob Is that Gipsy Hill London? never had that brew but I like their stuff
 
sounds points-y
 
(I know nil about basketball)
 
7:46 PM
@Mithical two teams, one ball.
That's about it. :D
 
the ball bounces and goes through hoops, i know that much
 
Nets? Hanging down from hoops?
 
It just should go into the basket, the way it goes until reaching it is usually less relevant.
@Mithical oh, yeah. Lol
 
🚽
why can't i choose the color of the toilet
 
7:48 PM
And yes the player holding the ball must either bounce it against the floor, or throw it to another player if not trying to score.
@user400654 because it can't speak for itself and whine about racism.
:P
Toiletism.
 
*eyeroll*
 
I used to have pink toilets once, when living with one of my (ex) girlfriends.
 
my childhood home had a green one
 
Well, she suggested to replace it when I moved in, so we bought something transparent with flowers, as far as I remember.
 
all the paint in the room matched it. i wonder what came first, the green toilet or the green walls
 
7:51 PM
But only after a month or so.
@user400654 never asked your parents?
 
it came that way when they bought the house
 
My childhood home had two toilet rooms: green and brown.
 
we renovated that room a few years ago
 
@user400654 nice, what became of it?
 
@Rubiksmoose I started with Postgres and survived...
 
7:53 PM
now it's white, with a marble floor
dark trim
 
@user400654 boring
:P
 
Also Dang. I go to wash my hair for a minute and I miss the alcohol talk!
 
at lest it's not baby shit green
 
@Tinkeringbell only hair? Why?
@user400654 baby poo isn't green
And it doesn't go into toilet
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Rest of me was still clean after the bath yesterday
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Feed it spinach.
 
7:55 PM
@Tinkeringbell you... Don't shower every day?? 😜
@Tinkeringbell it will vomit all over the place
;)
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Too bad for your skin to shower every day
 
Rob
@Mithical It was a revolution of the video game industry, when it came out:
 
Good excuse! Will use it next time I'm challenged about it. ;)
 
Rob
 
@Tinkeringbell I had no idea what postgres was so I was just making a dumb joke (post- vs pre-)
 
7:58 PM
Open source database
 
Rob
^^^ So when someone says "pong" to you @Sha, don't think it's about showering :)
 
Mhm I know that now (though will almost certainly forget it)
 
These days it cause me headache as it freeze node.js but otherwise it's pretty neat.
@Rubiksmoose will check up on you in 6-8
 
Its still my favorite DB even if none of the people I currently work for use it
 
I really don't get why everyone goes crazy over it... MySQL always seems way simpler and more solid to me
 
8:00 PM
@Rob lost you on that one. ;(
 
Rob
British usage
 
@ArtOfCode think pg has more "modern" appeal.
 
i've never used pg, and dislike mysql
 
Lead programmer of my company chose it, didn't ask why.
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask lexico.com/definition/pong
 
8:03 PM
from what i've heard of it, i'd probably like pg
we use mssql
 
@Rob huh, had no idea...
 
Rob
Oracle rulez
 
@user400654 it has neat admin interface
 
@ArtOfCode at what scale? (I love it cause I started with it and used it for years so I know I'm heavily biased - and anything looks better than the Oracle stuff I have to use now)
 
8:04 PM
not about pg, but... yeah
@LinkBerest yeah, I'll give you anything's better than Oracle. I'd take MySQL at any scale, though
 
I actually didn't mind SQL Server - and the reasons I hated MySQL I've found were more due to the way it was (ab)used than any failing of the software so pg or mysql at large scale might be another one of those
 
I owe my online identity to Oracle
I had to ask some questions about it in the early days of my programming, so started using a forum.
 
to be honest, as with a lot of things - it's almost always less about what you use, and more about how you use it
 
@ArtOfCode It came with a cute mug
 
if you try to use PG like you'd use MySQL, it's going to be horrible, and vice versa
if you try to treat MySQL as MSSQL, it just won't work
and your surrounding ecosystem matters, too, what you choose to supplement and back it up with
@Tinkeringbell eh, extrinsic motivation'll do nicely
 
8:07 PM
luckily most of my stuff now-a-days is Spark or Mongo with some SQLite databases used to feed them (usually can avoid the Oracle stuff but then there are those weeks....)
 
@ArtOfCode yep! Also, half the project was already built and using it by the time I joined ;)
 
Rob
 
@ArtOfCode SQLite is simpler yet, and more solid...
 
More solid?
 
Can't get much more solid than single file, in-process!
 
8:12 PM
I will say: MySQL & SQLite seem to have the most SQL Injection answers on SO by far (presumably because they're the DB used most for beginner programmers)
 
Also PHP had some terrible routines in the early days, and was often paired with mysql
 
that....would also make sense
 
So... There's just a TON of bad info out there waiting to trip people up
I really really like SQLite though. For what it is, it is the best. But, you gotta accept its limitations.
 
Rob
"Each SPARC M5 processor provides six cores, with each core able to switch between up to eight threads (48 threads per processor) using a modified LRU (Least Recently Used) algorithm for thread choice." - So, 1532 threads ...
 
More grief comes from folks sticking with a tool past the point where it has become inadequate than from choosing the wrong tool
 
8:16 PM
@Shog9 Yep, was having that discussion yesterday
 
@Shog9 ._.
Our stack is HP/UX, Java and Oracle (on sparc solaris)
 
hands JG a 🥃
 
... is the emoji italic?
 
apparently it is
 
Who knew that was even possible...
 
8:19 PM
my rectangle is italic so yes
 
I THINK we have sqlite somewhere.
 
So... Woul it also be bolded?
 
🥃 🥃 🥃 🥃
 
bold looks the same as normal to me
 
8:21 PM
I see no difference bolded
(bold > italic > regular > strikethrough)
 
so box, slanty box, box, box with a line? :D
 
@Shog9 We tried using H2 for a project recently (I pushed for SQLite but was overruled by a lead who wanted to stick with something made in Java) only to completely reverse that decision and move everything over once he tried to use it (tried being the operative word - apparently the latest version doesn't allow for command line database creation)
 
@JourneymanGeek yes
 
and so was the "dancing beers" emoji created
 
Rob
8:37 PM
Oracle licensing can cost over 2M / year: dba-oracle.com/t_licensing_pricing.htm (old prices); I guess if people pay that it's because it saves them money.
 
8:50 PM
@Rob yeah its a lot less expensive now (though I didn't look at what full package that was offering - the price is still high and adds up quick)
 
Rob
That's why AMD came out with their 7Fx2 (higher clock and fewer cores) Epyc CPU, saves $ on licensing fees (in some circumstances).
 

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