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I forgot how annoying lawns are... but last week we had a bit of grass in front of our vacation place, where we were supposed to sit.

It's wet feet for hours in the morning/after every bit of rain, a lot of mess you walk inside, and insects crawling up your legs.

Aibobot

lol

which reminds me

I need to see if I can work out how syntax highlighting is added to or removed from tags

Tinkeringbell

@Aibobot I think we can do that on the tag's info page?

Not with the robo dog though.

I think.

Aibobot

OH

Looks like soneone fixed that too

TIL

also that's a +11. Yay for proper protocols...

boo for THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOW REP SOCK

Tinkeringbell

@Aibobot Bounty something ;)

Aibobot

8:50 AM

I don't believe in ~~fairies~~ meta bounties

Tinkeringbell

Oh, sometimes... which makes me remember: Do you know if people get a notification if someone puts a bounty on their question?

Aibobot

uhm. Don't think so

Tinkeringbell

But you're not 110% sure? :P

I'll go look XD

Since there's still feature requests requesting it... I hope not :)

Aibobot

9:13 AM

naw

lol

So... there was a system at work I needed to take a look at

when I went there...

it was working

and I was told there was someone over to fix it

I know the other vendor who handles this sorta things wasn't there

I wasn't there...

.... I have no clue who fixed it...

Tinkeringbell

A ghost of an IT person :P

Aibobot

Also, the other vendor jinxed himself

said it was quiet and there's no cases...

I haven't seen him all day

Tinkeringbell

I know those days... Where you think everything is going fine, and then all of a sudden...

Journeyman Geek

9:29 AM

Never ever say it's quiet at work

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😁😁😁😁

Tinkeringbell

True.

user416943

10:51 AM

Can someone help me?

Mithrandir

With what?

user416943

Why my curious badge wasn't awarded

user416943

I've looked at the questions but don't know

user416943

travel.stackexchange.com/users/89966/daniil?tab=questions

user416943

2 deleted questions

Mithrandir

10:53 AM

Uhhh... odd.

user416943

I don't want to post because I get duplicate marks and downvotes

Mithrandir

Try asking on Travel Meta.

user416943

ok, thanks

user416943

@Glorfindel not a dupe

user416943

read the question please, i have 2 0 score deleted questions

Magisch

11:55 AM

@Aibobot organizes a campaign of surreptitious serial voting evading all detection mechanisms

Machavity

1:23 PM

Did something change on dupehammers and retags? I just tagged a Q per the OP comment and then found a dupe. I wasn't expecting it to close immediately but it did

Machavity

1:36 PM

Opened a Meta.SO about it

Tinkeringbell

@Machavity Looks to me like the php tag was also there in revision 1? Perhaps 'one of the original tags' as described here looks at that...

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Tinkeringbell yup, just posted answer saying that. No bug. :)

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheDragonWizard Though you might want to click the link from the comment there, and point out that here, it looks at the original tags because Machavity seems to have added the php tag... and the meta linked there says:

> First, we now look at the question's current tags instead of its original tags, unless you were the one that edited them (either by doing it yourself, or by approving an edit from someone else).

Magisch

hey tink

still on vacation?

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Tinkeringbell where's that from? That's what I see from Tim Post:

> You can instantly close as a duplicate any question that was originally asked with a tag you have a gold badge for.

So this rule probably still apply.

Tinkeringbell

1:45 PM

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A: It looks like the duplicate banner changed. How does it work now?

We have made two changes to closure by users that own a gold badge: First, we now look at the question's current tags instead of its original tags, unless you were the one that edited them (either by doing it yourself, or by approving an edit from someone else). This is done to address the req...

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

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A: Increase close vote weight for gold tag badge holders

Update: this is now enabled everywhere! The rules are: You can instantly close as a duplicate any question that was originally asked with a tag you have a gold badge for. You can instantly reopen any question closed as a duplicate that was originally asked with a tag you have a gold badge for....

Tinkeringbell

Mine is newer :D

@Magisch Yep!

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell shakes fist

Tinkeringbell

Starting work again next Monday though. And I made the mistake of planning a dentist appointment six months ago thinking I'd be working, so I have to get there at 8 this Wednesday :/

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Tinkeringbell ouch

Tinkeringbell

1:47 PM

@Magisch Glad I'm back on this side of the border :P

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Tinkeringbell hmm... so either it's incorrect/not fully explained, or the change was silently reverted at some point.

Since the author no longer works for SE guess we'll never know. :(

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheDragonWizard No? I think it worked exactly like that answer I linked describes. Php tag was originally there. Then edited out. Then Machivity edits one back in. But because Machavity edits one back in, the system doesn't look at the tags Machavity edited in, but at the original ones.

So it doesn't look at original tags to start with, only if you edit the tags does it do that.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Tinkeringbell now I'm confused

lol

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowTheDragonWizard Mission accomplished :P

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Anyway, you can post another answer, linking to that answer and explaining why it's not a bug.

Tinkeringbell

1:49 PM

@ShadowTheDragonWizard Oh, it's not a bug :P

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

:D

Tinkeringbell

It's also not as simple as 'it was there originally' as the system no longer does 'You can instantly close as a duplicate any question that was originally asked with a tag you have a gold badge for.'

Magisch

I saw a chicken the other day

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I haven't quite figured it out earlier, but I know it simply checks to see if you added in the tag. For this reason, I edited the FAQ to say "within limits that prevent gaming the system".

Magisch

and then I remembered it is basically a small dinosaur

Journeyman Geek

1:51 PM

→ 10 messages moved to Chimney

Magisch

and decided against trying to pet it

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch I fed a goose this vacation... nice fellow :)

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch I was once stalked by a malicious gobbler the size of a citreon 2cv.

I don't get no respect.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

As a kid I fed spiders with flies. Sort of. ;)

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell I too have interacted with swans and geese before

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

1:53 PM

I helped flies go into the spider web.

Magisch

the swans were meaner then the geese

one swan decided to hit me with its wing, which hits surprisingly hard and is surprisingly painful for how fluffy it looks

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Wings can't be fluffy, they're super strong...

otherwise they won't really work.

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog It looks at the most recent tags. It only looks at the original tags if you were the one that edited the most recent tags.

Magisch

yes but swan wings look so soft

Machavity

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, that was it. TIL

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

1:54 PM

Even chicken wings are full of bones.

Mithrandir

@Magisch Appearances can be deceiving.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell Not necessarily the original ones only. I've answered the MSO question with the official citation.

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

Fluffy from the outside, stone hard inside

Magisch

imagine being a small kid and being so excited to pet a swan, then you approach it and it knocks you over with its wing

childhood dreams = ruined

then again emus are really nice in contrast, and they get a bad reputation for being bitey and chasey

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

Some of you might be thinking of original tags because for a small period of time, the check categorically checked solely for original tags without considering future retags, but a couple months later, it was changed to the one Shog quoted.

Tinkeringbell

1:57 PM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Oh nice, it gets even more complicated :P

@Magisch Emus are cool. My brother can get the ones at zoos do mating dances :P

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

To keep the FAQ simple, I simply stated there "within limits that prevent gaming the system" and provided a link to Shog's post.

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell you can hug emus and they're soft and cuddly

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell the Aussies lost a war to emus.

Mithrandir

Lesson learned: Do not pick a fight with Big Bird.

Magisch

do not pick fights with chicken either

chicken will mess you up

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

2:01 PM

It's also worth noting that until that was clarified in June 2018, the official statement from the team misstated that dupehammering is "disabled if you edited the tags".

Machavity

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I looked around and even asked other hammers in SOCVR. We just missed it

Hopefully others can find it now

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

When things get complicated, Sonic can usually uncomplicate it. :)

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Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I heard rumours, yes :D

Journeyman Geek

also my parents feed mynahs

they're smart enough to know which rooms humans are in, complain when my mom dosen't play music, and I've seen about a dozen gang up and dive bomb a crow.

Machavity

@ShadowTheDragonWizard I dunno. There are some things that defy his explanations

Journeyman Geek

2:10 PM

@Machavity a monster of depravity!

Shadow The Dragon Wizard

@Machavity that's hard to believe. ;)

Mithrandir

5:09 PM

Grrr. The bus should at least honk at you going past to see if you want to get on.

...in other words, I missed my bus home.

(I'm now waiting for a different bus, almost an hour later and a 20-minute bike ride away, but still... annoying.)

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Happens to the best of us. I've been on my phone a few times and if you don't wave, you don't get on :/

Public transport is always annoying.

rene

I wave to every bus ... I'm on a blacklist by now ....

Mithrandir

The bus disappeared off of my bus tracker, so I didn't even know that it was arriving... I was scouting out alternate routes when it blasted past.

Tinkeringbell

5:31 PM

@Mithrandir :/

That sounds hugely frustrating.

404

5:45 PM

Somebody could walk into this room
And say your life is on fire

@rene Of course, 404 is the expected status of any link in my posts.

But clicking the 12 profiles that were on top 1.5 years ago is likely to produce correct Top 5 at present.

rene

:P

404

1. Community 178,558 helpful flags
2. Andy 130,603
3. Floern 125,732
4. Pang 99,596
5. Jamal 47,735
6. gnat 41,836

After that, Tunaki and CRABOLO who are inactive, and a large gap to everyone else.

I expect Floern to pass Andy, and gnat to pass Jamal.

rene

Yeah, I'll have this on my in 6 to 8 years to-do list

404

6:07 PM

The information was collected, naturally, by scraping the profiles. I found myself blocked really fast when I used bs4 or such, but running a loop in browser's console with 1 request per second seemed agreeable.

The list of profiles to visit was the list of Marshals from SEDE.

rene

I assume in bs4 you weren't logged in?

404

Yeah, I wasn't going to write code to pass tokens and stuff.

SO CVQ dropped to 3.3 kiloquestions... if the experiment lasted two months, it might be down to 0.

404

7:39 PM

It's offensive, toxic, and potentially bad, but in a good way.

Feeds

8:15 PM

Note: How To will teach you lots of cool stuff about technology, data storage, butterfly migration, and more. Also you will never see your files again.

Mithrandir

8:28 PM

:/ all ads now

"The Tavern on the Meta: Where I make flippant jokes, sarcastic replies, complain about taking busses, and other people talk."

Tinkeringbell

8:47 PM

@Mithrandir Waait... So what you're doing isn't talking?

M.A.R.

8:59 PM

@Mithrandir Are you doing a parody of me? ಠ_ಠ

404

10:37 PM

@Feeds !!/report xkcd

404

11:58 PM

> in order for the election to proceed, we need to have at least as many candidates as there are slots (so, 2) — that way, as mentioned in the original announcement, we can have a non-competitive election.

I don't follow. A non-competitive election with 1 candidate for 2 slots is also possible.

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