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user5389107

7:00 PM

I think it's more inclination and not talent

Friend of mine is a nurse and I have nowhere near the talent and energy required for that

Sonic Wizard

It's from the same guy who made the "kitchen staff" post: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/305940/…

user310756

@Shog9 yep and you know my people skills are off the richter scale. Being a woman and all that.. Apparently I should have stayed in

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I always respected the "kitchen staff" at the companies I've been working at.

user310756

vet sci or med sci

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sci fi

user310756

7:03 PM

@Shog9 lmao

Martin James

@Shog9 Well, if you grow tired of software and moderating, you could always try Limbo dancing.

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3 mins ago, by πάντα ῥεῖ

I always respected the "kitchen staff" at the companies I've been working at.

We have to share the elevator, no?

user5389107

@YvetteColomb You're pretty nice though

hey

How many highly-contributing users on IPS were suspended since then!?

user5389107

in b4 yvette for australian pm

would do better then abbott

NobodyNada

7:10 PM

Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change. Not all of us are engineers, you learn by asking, down-voting is simply rude and disrespectful — Joe 5 mins ago

siiiggghh...

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Yes.

Martin James

I'm tired of engaging whth those people. I suspect they are tying to just wear everyone down by continually posting 'Unwelcome' moans until nobody is left to refute them:(

πάντα ῥεῖ

But at least they're getting a basic point: "you learn by asking"

Martin James

@πάνταῥεῖ ..or reading the f... freely available help information.

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@Martin At least the triage needs to be left to humans. Poor AI like smokey helps, but can't be leashed out automated.

RTFM is considered rude :3

hey

7:17 PM

Read The Fun Manual

Martin James

@hey Ah.. I always wondered..

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I've been bringing up these decent variations earler. Just a little research, hold on please ...

user315433

@πάνταῥεῖ Not true for me, I learn by answering.

user310756

@user5389107 erm to a point. I am not tolerant of certain behaviour patterns. I am old and cranky

user315433

I knew nothing about Python scientific stack before beginning to answer questions about it.

πάντα ῥεῖ

7:20 PM

Another rubber duck talker! Great, you'll make it @bro

user310756

@user5389107 I went to school with his sisters, they're really nice, shame he's such a tosser

hey

My job is to talk to a rubber duck, and ask it to write the code for me.

user310756

@Shog9 yeh the inbuilt prejudice in that statement is high

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@hey That rarely worked out in an immediate way for my experience.

user315433

Isn't Upvotes make posters smile. SMiles are good a bit condescending? It's treating the OP like they can only understand baby talk.

Martin James

7:25 PM

@hey Should that be rubber duck/drake?

πάντα ῥεῖ

Folks: Sometimes when listening to the colleagues mumbling while at coding stuff. If their WTF rate raises, I see some need to jump in. Why not here?

user310756

@hey that's a generalisation - but I can see that

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: Is it safe to use phone while charging with portable powerbank? by Sanket on android.SE

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sd tpu-

user5389107

@YvetteColomb Every time I think of Abbott I think about his "As they do the ironing" comment

ridiculous

user310756

7:29 PM

@user5389107 him and Hockey. Don't get me started. I actually don't mind Turnbull.

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5 mins ago, by πάντα ῥεῖ

Folks: Sometimes when listening to the colleagues mumbling while at coding stuff. If their WTF rate raises, I see some need to jump in. Why not here?

The remainder mechanics is left to the "You missed to switch on your monitor."

SmokeDetector

8:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Is everyone cheating genetics these days? by Sugar Spee on biology.SE

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sd why

SmokeDetector

@πάνταῥεῖ [:6900736] Body - Position 941-956: teeth whitening

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sd fp

@SmokeDetector fp-

sd poof

Sonic Wizard

@πάνταῥεῖ Time for another feature request on GitHub: only consider report messages for the short "sd" syntax.

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Could we have a smokey bot plz! /sarcasm off

NobodyNada

8:05 PM

@SonicWizard Oftentimes we want to poof why data, !!/test commands, !!/errorlogs, etc.

Sonic Wizard

You can still use the "reply" button for those

hichris123

Turns out searching for comments with "woman" in them leads to quite a few flaggable comments:

Beautiful answer by a beautiful woman. — Mick Ilovski May 11 '15 at 4:19

I'm commenting off topic just to say that you're beautiful. — Tushar Gogna Feb 18 '15 at 8:37

is the brain of a woman enough smart to program ? — user3522371 Jul 25 '14 at 19:23

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Necromancer

hichris123

Yeah, there's about 1000 on SEDE, so I've been going through the more obvious ones.

hey

Strange that I mostly found the reverse situations:

Please note that I'm a girl so I'm not that good at computers in general, but I try. — Catherine Jace Feb 27 at 15:50

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8:08 PM

More recent dates should show some more actual prominent examples.

hey

A girl coder omg — DJphy Apr 20 at 17:15

hichris123

@hey Yeah, there's definitely examples on both sides. But a non-zero amount of non-deleted anti-women comments.

hey

the rest are about unrelated djangogirls, factory_girl ...

user315433

@hey Also flaggable, IMO.

user315433

Being a member of the group does not excuse the behavior.

Sonic Wizard

8:17 PM

one-more-dupe-vote-needed meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309578/…

user315433

Closed

Sonic Wizard

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309579/…

user315433

> If someone judges anyone or anything on digging up the worst failures from the past, honestly they deserve the same. Because that's a rather shitty way of going through life for all involved. Move on. Improve. Enjoying the failure of someone else makes you small, not them. -- Nick Craver at 1:10 PM - 28 Apr 2018

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omg girls. Is this nerd kindergarden? C'mon

user315433

Not sure if Nick meant a certain Twitter activist digging up locked SO posts from 2009, but it would apply well.

Sonic Wizard

8:22 PM

delv-pls 20k+ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309579/…

user315433

flag-please: I'm out of comment flags on Math but this is 1-flag deletable.

user315433

(gone)

user315433

> The toxicity at @StackOverflow begins the first time you visit and find an answer to your problem, and try to thumbs-up it and it's all "You need five thousand internet points to do that, n00b" -- Billiard Lentil at 1:26 PM - 28 Apr 2018

user315433

Good luck to SO team if they try to please everyone.

user315433

8:38 PM

> I think that if we’d set out to build the best Q&A platform for everyone’s needs, it wouldn’t have helped anyone. By narrowing our focus to a specific group we thought we could help, we were able to create a product opinionated enough to actually make a difference. stackoverflow.blog/2015/09/15/…

user315433

Too bad Jay forgot his own words in 2018.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Yeah, that sounds quite unprofessional nor resilient.

SmokeDetector

9:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected: How can I change the default line spacing for Google Docs? by nigger on webapps.SE

user315433

4

A: On the false dichotomy between quality and kindness

First off, thank you for taking the time to write this. I've become very weary these past few weeks seeing folks trade arguments over this problem, as so often the participants treat each other like idiots... It's refreshing to see thoughtful analysis instead of yet more polemics. I agree with ...

user315433

Sounds like an argument in favor of hiding negative scores from the askers. Not sure about answerers.

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XKCD mansplained:

> Better to let the heat lower, and stop arguing at all (and rather have fun with whoever was calling from the "off").

user315433

There's a precedent of sorts: seeing close votes on your own post is a privilege granted at 250 rep.

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Mine?

user315433

9:13 PM

Generic you

πάντα ῥεῖ

The first mention of a seemingly real person at a network, will letting them be lacerated by a swarm of help vampires. We need more consolidated / official mechanics, not the empathy.

John Dvorak

Education? Thought control?

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rationality

^teaching

John Dvorak

9:42 PM

More bricks in the wall?

user5389107

9:59 PM

@bro I could see recording downvotes but not showing them on questions for a day or so after asking

Would avoid the "why bother to fix it it's already downvoted" trap many new authors fall into

So a theorethically new author could fix and get their question back on track before the downvotes show, whereas now a lot of them don't bother once their question is at like -6 and closed. Feels like a hole you're never getting out of

user315433

10:13 PM

I am not sure their thinking is "I really need to have positive or nonnegative score on this question". It's more like "I need an answer to this".

SmokeDetector

10:48 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: Is there a Waze-like app to keep track of each other among travel companions? by bella on travel.SE

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