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Joe Friend

16:00

@ShadowWizard That's a bit problematic since I only point to his report for CR updates. I can talk to @jnat about adding an in-progress update to his. That seems reasonable to me.

Mithrandir

@Catija I happen to be a fan of dark themes

Shadow Wizard

@JoeFriend still.. won't it be better to have one "thread" about it, possibly with two answers?

Joe Friend

Gotta head out for those meetings.

Catija

@Mithrandir That's sort of irrelevant to my statement? I wasn't passing judgement. Just making a statement.

Mithrandir

I know

Shadow Wizard

16:01

@JoeFriend more reason to have it all in one place, no?

Mithrandir

I was making a statement as well :P

JNat

@ShadowWizard That post is supposed to show what goes through that particular process. I don't see the benefit in repeating whatever Joe writes in DAG's updates, so I linked to it instead :)

Shadow Wizard

@JoeFriend cya, and good luck!

Catija

I feel like I'm listening to the same conversation twice. @JNat :P

Shadow Wizard

@JNat of course.... and the more I hear, the more I think it would be best to merge those two.

JNat

16:02

@Catija Yup :P

Shog9

@ShadowWizard the original motivation behind the CR report was to demonstrate - during a time when we were getting frequent complaints about not doing anything - that we were, in fact, doing things. We kinda hoped to inspire other teams to do similar posts, and in fact this did happen (both DAG and the Jobs team have similar update posts), which is very helpful during dry spells such as this.

Catija

@ShadowWizard But what if the Venn diagrams don't completely overlap?

JNat

@Catija as the lack of updates in mine suggests, they really don't ;)

Catija

@JNat Yeah. I don't think they should be merged... I haven't actually looked at the DAG one yet, though.

Shadow Wizard

@Shog9 putting everything aside, seeing "Nothing" two months in a row is.... not a good sign. I know things are done, but many others will see that and think "huh, so they're not doing anything". Though not sure how to solve this, and not sure if it's really better than keeping us in the dark. :)

Shog9

16:07

@ShadowWizard I mean... The ideal solution here is to actually start doing stuff.

I don't see a downside to being honest here.

Shadow Wizard

@Shog9 things are never ideal...

Catija

@JNat If several teams are each doing a monthly updates post, I think it makes sense to link them but not necessarily dupe them. Clearly, they're not identical... but that's sort of why I was confused that the CM list has to only include items that require dev time. If you include other valuable things you do that help sites do their jobs better, your list will see less barren.

Shog9

If we aren't open about the periods where we're struggling, why should we expect y'all to trust us when we say we are working on your problems?

Catija

It's not as if you haven't accomplished anything... you do a lot... some of it you can't talk about, I'm sure.. but some of it you can.

Shadow Wizard

@Shog9 guess you chose @Oded on purpose? ;)

JNat

16:08

@ShadowWizard I mean, if you read through the original question, you'll see that the post is supposed to only show stuff that goes through... y'know, I don't need to repeat myself ;P

Shog9

@ShadowWizard the wheel is never wrong

Shadow Wizard

lol

You got some actual Wheel of Blame in the office? @Shog

Would be really cool.

Shog9

stackoverflow.com/error

JNat

@Catija hmm... will give that some thought

user315433

We really like this blog post for you

user315433

16:13

@ShadowWizard Yes, but teaching math at a university means a large proportion of people I interact with are Chinese.

Shadow Wizard

A: How can I see all the images of the error page?

OK, here are all 34 error cats! (click to enlarge) Community User Exposed At Last Adam's cat lolling around Brent Ozar (thanks Martin for cracking this one up!) Benjamin Dumke-von der Ehe aka balpha Oded Emmett Nick Craver David Fuller...

user315433

41% of the students I currently advise, for example.

Shadow Wizard

@Desire interesting, didn't know that.

Catija

Is that a toy computer?

Shadow Wizard

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

noooo

no!

Wait, let me find it

user315433

16:18

> Up until a year ago, Stack Overflow didn’t send much email. [...] The assumption was that users didn’t want or need emails from us. If they wanted to hear from us, they could visit the site.

user315433

Glad to know they finally saw the error of their old way.

user315433

Users need the email from SO desperately.

Catija

/sarcasm?

Shadow Wizard

dang they moved it to MSO

Q: What kind of computer is being used in "Workin on ur problemz"?

What are the things between the normal keyboard and the monitor in this picture? The image appears when you strike upon an error on Stack Overflow.

discussion

@Catija ^

user315433

> Slack is down, but IRC is up. Just don’t ask anyone there how it works, or ask first timer questions, or join the wrong channel, or say hi. -- Duane O'Brien at 5:10 PM - 31 Oct 2017

Catija

16:21

@ShadowWizard So.... it is a toy computer...

Shadow Wizard

> V-Tech Talking Whiz Kid Mouse PRO Deluxe

lol

user315433

If one can manage all of the above... they can also post on SE.

Catija

> It’s a now-obsolete toy computer for children; even the newer models of this series from VTech are no longer sold.

Shadow Wizard

@Catija it can't be a toy if used for such a noble cause. ;)

Shog9

Note the more expensive "PRO Deluxe" model and avant-garde kneeling desk - let it never be said that devs here don't get the best.

Shadow Wizard

16:25

Implied: they get when they purchase it themselves. ;)

I'm sure @Oded can't get such Deluxe computer these days. :D

Oded

That's why I go with one of these:

Catija

@Shog9 AKA couch end table?

@Oded Ben got a tablet for his first birthday...

Might be an upgrade... at the least it takes up less space.

Oded

Now I am jealous

user315433

Mechanics election already has 6 candidates for 1 position, with 1 nomination poem posted so far.

canon

17:17

Question quality vs "don't justify downvotes"; the holy war continues....

user315433

10K on SO. Delete all the things! But low-view questions are hardly worth attention.

user315433

Currently going through Score <=1 and Views >= 500 group.

user315433

"Difference between IF statement and While Loops" ... okay, that is a kind of thing people search for, but I'd rather them not be around here, so.

canon

wait, what?

what's the difference between <img> and <video>?

rene

@canon one moves, the other doesn't?

canon

17:24

I was being sarcastic... but .gif and .mng can be animated.

rene

vdeo and mg

@canon I wasn't ... :(

Catija

Do gifs really move, though? Yes, I understand that video is a series of still images but most gifs are comprised of static images without motion blur.

canon

oh, hey... didn't even realize there was an .apng

cool... pity raster images are so web 2.0

rene

@Catija yeah, technically different things happen.

b_jonas

Someone asked outside of SE how many couples are there living in Hungary who have been married for at least 75 years. I wonder, is there an SE site where such a question would be on topic?

(ref: hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Tudakoz%C3%B3/… )

user315433