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user202362
00:14
I don't receive any emails from stackoverflow at all
user202362
for the past few months at least ...
user202362
I have been aggressive in culling spams though ...
user202362
but I have not touched email settings for this site
user202362
00:52
TechCrunch reported that the career-advancement social media site is rolling out a new mentor-mentee connection feature. LinkedIn first started testing the service last month, but it is now available in San Francisco and Australia. The company plans to eventually make it available to all users.
user202362
lol
user315433
01:14
Time to appoint a new pro-tempore moderator? by Glorfindel on poker.meta.stackexchange.com
user315433
On very slow sites, it might make sense to email moderators if there's a mod-only flag sitting for 24 hours, and they haven't seen it.
user315433
If they get like 5 flags per month, it's understandable they wouldn't be staring at the empty queue all the time.
user202362
01:31
it's all about probabilities - if there are only 2 mods and there is a long weekend for one of them and holiday for the other, then the chance of a flag ignored for more than 24 hours is high
user202362
even after the email
02:17
Knew it
user202362
That's because the bot tends to 'blame' it on one of the last few active users, isn't it? And this time it was pretty much just me ...
Maybe they should RO-ify you
user202362
I totally agree, although I don't think that's going to happen
2
02:34
@Telkitty Everyone in the room is eligible, theoretically
>.>
maybe that changed
yeah, gonna say it changed
02:52
So, why exactly do we need to shut down docs just because it isn't too active?
It takes resources to run, maintain, and moderate anything. Especially something in that weird trough where there aren't enough folks to self-moderate, but enough activity that someone needs to do it
Okay...
03:30
Oops, forgot I can only do that in charcoal
user310756
yeh it's still alive - needs one more flag I think
user202362
04:12
user202362
apex predator migration methods ...
user202362
wait ... apex predators don't usually migrate ...
user310756
lol
user315433
05:19
0
Q: Would more-heavily involved moderation bots be benificial to Stack Exchange?

BRUHQuora has bots that do a lot of moderation, such as: auto-question-tagging, marking questions as "needs improvement," auto-question-merging, and auto-answer-collapsing. If bots like these were implemented on Stack Exchange, would they make communities better, or are they completely unnessecary?

user310756
05:45
@Michelle yep :D
29 messages moved to Chimney
user310756
@rene who are you, Santa Claus?
No, Zwarte Piet
user310756
Piet?
user310756
ah
user310756
06:01
so who's santa then?
user202362
a better question: 'who's satan then'
@YvetteColomb Sinterklaas and takes place around Dec, 6th. So the timeframe kind of matches ...
06:22
@Michelle I recognize that profile picture...
Is there a tool/SEDE to list questions based on their spoiler block percentage?
(checking meta and SEDE...)
06:38
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.healthynutritionfacts.org/testo-blend/ by juinjitor on apple.SE
06:54
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How many beaches are suitable for swimming in Cebu City? by Asa ni Quen on travel.SE
@Elias for SEDE that would require a full table scan and a crazy like clause. Might work on smaller sites, forget it on Stack Overflow
@rene I guess so, though I don't think SO has questions with many spoiler blocks :p
anyway... I've posted the meta post
1
Q: List of questions sorted based on their spoiler markdown percentage

EliasOn some entertainment sites (e.g. Anime.SE where I'm actively participating on), sometimes spoiler markdown is used to... hide spoilers. While its usage is usually considerate, sometimes it's overused until there's nothing left shown normally on the post like this question. (however, this meta ...

@SagarV don't be ridiculous ...
@rene check patrick's comment there
07:09
Yes, I did. Still disagree
@rene ^^^
@SagarV Post on MSE if you don't like it. I know what Tripleee is doing and why he is doing it. It is on-topic. Close voting it is wrong. Down vote it if you think it is not useful.
@rene I appreciate his work on Charcoal but I think it is unnecessary
down vote all of the posts then. Close voting is wrong.
ah then leave it
stuck at a problem
oooooopss
07:29
20K batch of three one, two, three /cc @bart @sha @tra
Nice try.
@BhargavRao thanks
not you?
07:32
Nopes
one day we'll trap you :P /CC @Sha
"Open in incognito" is a convenient feature~
@Elias on your side. but the sites can still track you based on ip
The thing is, mods are used to room links being shared in the TL, so we're quite quite used to opening links in incognito.
07:36
@BhargavRao So that one click is you. I'm sure
Nope, I didn't click it this time because I was sure that it'd be a link to the chat room.
Heh, it's like person A downvoted and person B commented, then OP was angry with person B
@Elias that's quite usual thing.
In such cases I edit the comment and start it with I am not the downvoter. but .....
@Elias that one question you linked in your post is clearly abusing spoiler markdown
user310756
@Telkitty @ShadowWizard is :D
@Yve :p
user310756
07:42
@SagarV so many pings - so little time rolls eye balls :D
@rene all three voted
hmm? Why I'm being pinged!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!??!?!?1!?!?
explodes
16 mins ago, by Sagar V
one day we'll trap you :P /CC @Sha
how was your kbd?
is she fine?
uh did your pour coffee or H2SO4 ?
07:57
@SagarV new keyboard... old one is... de..... dea.. can't say it :(
@ShadowWizard you said it survived many attacks for the last 10 years
whoa.... single downvote here caused the OP to rage quit.
Amazing.
@SagarV yeah.... actually 12 years.... but... guess age is affecting... she couldn't recover this time. crying
@ShadowWizard he is a member for 5yr and 8 months O_O
@SagarV was
08:04
was ? not yet
He quitted SO, so...
I think he will stay for some more time to check anything happens to that post
>Thank you Shadow!
But your keyboard is in another castle!
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Horse and Carriage Lyrics (by Ma$e and Cam'rom) by user4048 on musicfans.SE
@SmokeDetector can't help with such question...
08:06
@SmokeDetector fp
@SagarV You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
@BhargavRao please suspend rage quitting stackoverflow.com/users/1079192/timberwolf
@ShadowWizard does this mean to suspend the user, or suspend the process of rage quitting!?
@ShadowWizard is it a reason for suspension? he didn't made any rude posts/comments on SO.
@Elias bit of both
08:08
"You're not allowed to rage-quit now, please wait for a while until you get the permission"
Sometimes suspensions are a useful tool in trying to get people not to self destroy their content
@SagarV he started to turn his posts into offensive crap
@ShadowWizard Was already in the process, had received a few flags.
now afk
@ShadowWizard example
08:11
@Elias got it
@BhargavRao did you rollbacked it manually or is there a mod tool for massive rollback
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in username, mostly non-Latin answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How to implement a WordPress comments function? by xenical on wordpress.SE
@SagarV its manual
08:26
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 1 out of 3): rap lyrics help by user125135 on musicfans.SE
Out of 1500 questions on Music Fans, 1/3 of them are ...
Identify this song which goes like blah blah, blaaaah, blahblah, blaaaah might be a legit question there.
@BhargavRao I happen to know that song ... I sing it all the time ...
08:32
Ah, some flowery song.
check
ba ba ba, ba ba ba 🍌
@SagarV Close enough.
08:40
how to link add in image in chat?
@Derpy yup!
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Q: Allow moderators to undo vandalism edits with a single click

nhinkleWhen users decide to rage-quit, they will often try to remove all of their previous contributions by editing them out. This event triggers an automatic "potential self-destruction of content" flag. But currently, the resulting clean-up must be done manually, which can be a pain and "noisy" if a u...

08:59
status-ignored
status-great
@SHa any Idea
18 mins ago, by Sagar V
how to link add in image in chat?
@Noobie123 hehe like 999% of the requests...
@ShadowWizard you mean 999‰ ?
09:29
Spam??
-1
Q: Does anyone know anything about the matchup Anish Giri - Ding Liren this week?

GurjenAll I know is that they will play in Wenzhou (China) this week (see http://www.2700chess.com/). What's the time control and is it being broadcasted?

09:40
@Noobie123 I would say so
@rene still it exists there
gone
Not sure why Oded did the close/re-open action ...
on that?
yeah
Might be to clear flags or so
I didn't noticed that. didn't checked the rev history too
09:42
or to prevent the -100 penalty for the user
@Noobie123 nah just the common off topic crap of MSE
but it gone as spam
my spam flag marked as helpful instead of disputed
oh ooops
that one was spam, meant this one meta.stackexchange.com/questions/299397/… which needs 2 more votes @Bart @rene @TravisJ
I pinged you there to ask about this @Sha
32 mins ago, by Shadow Wizard
Lol
@Noobie123 loL
eating pingz
09:45
grrr
munch munch munch
@ShadowWizard already voted on and was in my one, two, three set. Pay attention, will you. ;)
@rene buh, my delete vote was the first you voted now!
When it's deleted we can prove it. :D
@ShadowWizard what's the bet
100$
Ok?
09:47
rene are you ok with 1000 UC
I'm not Ok with anything
Meta isn't a personal blog platform. — Shadow Wizard 12 secs ago
I'm not going to re-iterate what I already said on that post.
lunch time. Oh it's 15.30
10:02
13:00
Had Hummus
om nom nom
hmm... hey @Sag you new here? :D
@Nick is this backup still running these days? (aka is this answer still relevant) — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago
@NickCraver I know you might... miss... comments, so trying my luck here, it's something I really would like to know ^
whoa, reply! Ignore above. :)
10:44
@ShadowWizard yeah
11:16
@SagarV welcome!
@ShadowWizard tq
only welcome? no coffee? no snacks?
@SagarV no, you are still new. You should work hard to earn all that respect.
:D
very close to Jon Skeet
12:07
was going to offer a muffin, but this one seem more appropriate.
@Derpy typo
that's the picture Google gave to me. Are you doubting Google?
user202362
12:23
why shouldn't I?
yes. what's the problem with doubting google
user202362
please give me statistics or any scientific base on why I should not doubt it
user202362
Some people believe in Quran too
I trusted google maps 5 times and in that 5, 2 times it took me in the wrong route
@SagarV it can be worse, few times people got killed here because they reached the wrong place
12:30
> The Google is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
Didn't it say that in the Hitchhiker's Guide?
> Two Israeli soldiers were said to be using navigation app Waze when they mistakenly drove into the Qalandiya refugee camp overnight, sparking clashes as security forces deployed to rescue them that killed one Palestinian and wounded 15 people.
this is what happened to me once ^^^
@Sha
@SagarV that's because you are limited by your human perceptions to a lame 3-dimensional space. Google in its wisdom knows that the suggested route would be shorter if you would just walk along on the fourth axis.
and I took that route by thinking that the other one is one-way
@SagarV lol
12:47
user202362
sometimes I judge by kid's willingness to obey without questioning and wonder how badly they will end up as tool and get abused
user202362
like those little lambs get raised as dinner
@Derpy new kind of free hand circle
user202362
circles
user202362
but that's the nature order of things, I should not interfere
12:52
sunsetting docs tmrw
@SagarV one circle wasn't enough.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in body: How to teach your kids Chinese? by Hihilulu on parenting.SE
13:44
!!/alive
!!/location
@Mithrandir The Netherlands
Smokey too?
Hi all!
Shalom!
Buenos dias!
Ola!
@Mithrandir one instance for sure ...
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA שלום
@rene unfortunately, none of them are responding...
13:56
@Mithrandir Como estas?
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA I don't speak... Is that Spanish?
lol yes
three years in high school
ha
@Mithrandir maybe Smokey is upset ?
@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA snace?
13:59
@Mithrandir snake was unavailable. as was "minesweeper" ;-P
so I have snace and mineweeper
😀
Minesweeper was made in react. Snake was made in vanilla es6
using browser native imports (if they are available)
phancy
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: What does “titi” mean? by user14483 on french.SE
You dastardly unicorn. Why won't you listen to commands?
!!/blame
!!/blame
Woah, a new improved Smokey from The Netherlands :D
14:06
It might still need to learn a few tricks of the trade
14:34
"Dear Kevin.
I appreciate your invitation to create yet another account which I will be liable of damage from in the very probable event the company we are handling our data to gets its user database stolen - again....."
user315433
14:55
> Dear Kevin,
I am moved that you email me because you really like this job for me. I never knew you cared... As much as I hate to hurt your feelings, I must say that a junior position with half my current salary is not a direction I want to pursue at this juncture of my career.
!!/alive?
@ShadowWizard plz send teh coffee
!!/status
@ShadowWizard Running since 14:41:52 UTC (19 minutes, 59 seconds)
Huh, how @Smokey was fixed?
15:02
@ShadowWizard art fixed it
thank Jeremy Banks
@BhargavRao nice... so each bot has to get manual fix?
@ProgramFOX got a bot too but he is away now for 10 days. o_O
in SOBotics on Stack Overflow Chat, 25 mins ago, by Jeremy Banks
I'm afraid that more minor changes to chat may be coming in the near future. I will try to avoid unnecessary breaky changes but can't guarantee anything.
Anonymous
@ShadowWizard ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anonymous
No official stable API unfortunately...
user315433
15:08
As long as bots use Chat Exchange, and that one gets updated...
@Michelle There are different chat libs for different languages.
Anonymous
but really you should all be using ChatExchange, because it's the best. ;)
user315433
Forgetting to include contact information does not mean it's not spam.
15:16
looks like Smokey is still slightly dead
is this a new behavior that the edit link is not disabled, but when clicking the link, this popup appears?
point in question: trying to edit this answer pending edit just approved
@SmokeDetector gone
@Derpy *_*
@Derpy awesome page for HTTP 500 error
@Mithrandir I assumed you came all the way here from that faraway restaurant just to ask for a free pony picture without all the other ScienceFiction&Fantasy crew knowing
15:29
@Derpy you was wrong
@rene now, IF we could actually manage to convince Oded to use that on the meta site...
@Mithrandir Yes, my young jedi, now you finally start to understand.
I've never watched Star Wars either.
Battlestar Galactica?
user315433
@Elias Yes, I noticed it several days ago.
15:37
@Mithrandir can I at least still annoy you with an archaic "It was I" quote, Darth Sidious style?
@Mithrandir Dr Who?
@rene nuh uh
Or by calling you Gandalf?
@Mithrandir Do you even have a television?
@rene nope
15:39
That explains it.
@Derpy meh, I don't mind that
OK, let's switch to Radio Plays ...
well... have to go for now. Later
@Feeds Didn't realize that the feed included the xkcd alt text. Nice.
16:44
Apparently, many people who ask questions on SO aren't even familiar with their debugging tools, stdout, stderr, etc. That bums me out.
Debugging tools: Stack Overflow, stdout: ( C and C++ if you're desperate), stderr: Meta Stack Exchange.
Many tutorials on programming start straight to coding and never touch debugging
Because... coding is more fun than debugging! (until you're stuck)
Debugging comes after testing and I'm not a tester ...
17:04
:/
17:18
Has the post off-topic stuff hour on MSE started?
I don't see anything though
@Elias two posts, deleted by SE staff within minutes.
user315433
17:46
Two hours in the Data Science nomination period, and there are 2 candidates for 3 positions.
user315433
(And one of two existing candidates is not particularly strong, CS=5)
user315433
1
Q: Moderator Election - We need more candidates!

Grace NoteIn a bit over 3 hours, the nomination phase of the moderator elections is scheduled to end. However, in order for the election to proceed, it is necessary to have at least one more candidate running than there are slots. This allows for there to be actual voting phases, so that the community can ...

Today's Listening | Glitch Hop / Country
mostly just Glitch Hop
@Michelle not to mention they doesn't answer the election questions...
user315433
17:55
They is a weak candidate for sure.
user315433
Let's start a rebellion against plural-form verbs with singular they.
@Michelle "We need more candidates!" Citation needed. wtb data.
ouf, I may have a problem
Maybe still better than my Steam collection...
@Elias I doubt it. What's your steam collection at?
That's all just stuff I bought just now lol
if you google my username I think the first hit is my steam account
Er, well, if you google my old username
18:19
1
Q: Can we on EE.SE do something about the "hot nework questions" list?

pipeI don't know the logic behind what goes up in the "Hot network questions" list, but I do know that it is often the same week-old questions, already with several answers and one accepted, and OP has long left the building. Even protected questions will show up. As it works now, it mostly serves t...

@NickAlexeev most of this is public, actually
18:41
@Shog9 Are the details about the influence of the close- and down- votes public?
19:01
@NickAlexeev for close votes it doesn't look like it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/272230/…
@NickAlexeev there is no influence beyond downvotes affecting the score
19:47
I'm the rubber duck here: meta.stackexchange.com/q/299420/158100
user315433
19:58
Nomination period on Data Science extended. 3rd candidate: VividD. I'd be more likely to vote for YCS if he ran.
user315433
If they get one more like this and the election goes ahead... I don't know what's the point even. That site should not have graduated.
user315433
20:34
Town Hall Chat topic: what does Health site have to do to get closed?
Kill someone.
Does that apply to other sites, or just Health?
Mostly just health. If SO killed someone it would probably end up getting into the fight club formula where X + Y have to be more than Z in order to issue a full recall.
I mean... Ol' Frosty got a life sentence, so...
21:00
@TravisJ We've probably killed someone's career (at least) with that bad crypto advice...
I let msft handle my crypto
brofish
user315433
Given the kind of answers commercial-health-blog owners post there, it might have already happened.
@Michelle DON'T VACCINATE YOUR CHILD! MEDICINE IS WITCHCRAFT! ANTIBIOTICS ARE THE DEVIL'S SPERM! etc etc
user315433
IPS mods announced: 4th diamond for HDE, 2nd for Catija, 1st for John.
user315433
21:10
How does one get to the list of moderators without knowing the URL? Or to stackexchange.com/about in general.
user315433
Election roundup: Philosophy ends tomorrow, Data Science and Cross Validated (what a coincidence) collect nominations, Arduino collects questions.
21:26
@Michelle "about us" in the top bar on se.com
21:56
@ShadowWizard not extremely new
maybe a month or so?
22:10
@Shog9 thanks! /cc @rene ^
user315433
Hm, the query Highest Upvoted Deleted Posts is from February 2016...
user315433
Granted, it also tries to get Title which isn't there, so maybe it simply didn't work before.
32
A: Can some metadata about deleted posts be included in Data.SE?

Jon EricsonYes We've added a new table called PostsWithDeleted that includes metadata from all posts, including the deleted ones. If the post is deleted, we've nulled out all fields except: ID PostTypeId ParentId CreationDate DeletionDate Score That's helpful for doing meaningful research that requires...

22:45
ah, yeah, Score isn't new; Tags and ClosedDate were added later though
Score was just omitted in the schema for some reason
@ShadowWizard Looks like July 21st, 2016 was the completion date on Tags & ClosedDate. My, how time flies...
user315433
23:03
Is WB: SE killing stories? by Redacted Redacted on worldbuilding.meta.stackexchange.com
user315433
Of course, it's full of millenials.
@Shog9 whoa... Amazing indeed!
user315433
23:45
user315433
Marc would get more likes if the red circles were freehand.

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