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7:00 PM

haha! Still there.

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Q: How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using cURL in PHP?

I'm trying to connect to a Tor hidden service using the following PHP code: $url = 'http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/' $ch = curl_init(); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_URL, $url); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true); curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_PROXY, "http://127.0.0.1:9050/"); curl_setopt($ch, ...

Travis J

smh lol

The deleted answers are priceless

"this guy is a drug dealer from Silk Road" from Oct., 2013

Shadow Wizard

lol

Probably hundreds of such comments too, all deleted.

Bart

@rene yes it is

Travis J

I wish I could see deleted comments

Shadow Wizard

@TravisJ run for moderator... get a diamond.... :D

...get hired by SE...

...hack SO...

Travis J

7:04 PM

I ran, but it was a tough election... #Martijn

Shadow Wizard

oh lol

Travis J

SE can't afford me :P

Shadow Wizard

Better luck next time!

So part time dev ;)

Travis J

hacking seems wrong, and also potentially not even an option

Bart

I ran once. But then I was told I should run "for" them, not "away from" them

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Shadow Wizard

7:05 PM

Working only during nights

Travis J

lol @Bart

Shadow Wizard

But it's really rude that DPR does not browse SO from jail, answering questions, reviewing posts, etc.

After all he did, why not try and amend this by being helpful? :D

Bart

I love it when people talk about hacking. "You studied CS, right? So you can hack as well!" ... ehm, no, I'm lucky if I can successfully turn on my own PC in the morning.

Travis J

hah, yeah, all you need is moar people on teh keyboard

Shadow Wizard

@Bart lol... reminds me, long years ago someone I knew from childhood and we lost contact over the years suddenly appeared and asked me to hack something.

Bart

7:08 PM

Haha

Travis J

I really don't understand why anyone would hack anything.

First off, its morally wrong. Second, it is a felony. Third, it is really complicated and takes so much time that just making something would have been more profitable.

Shadow Wizard

@TravisJ fame... respect.... feeling powerful...

Jason C

It's really fun? And also if you have a goal.

Shadow Wizard

The "big" hackers have noble goals, to take down what they consider evil companies or governments.

Travis J

I don't think hackers get much respect, nor fame. You can get 15 minutes of fame easier by mowing your backyard during a tornado.

Bart

7:10 PM

I can understand the challenge of it being attractive. I remember getting a PSP years ago. And an exploit came out where you could crack the thing by exploiting some behaviour of a chip on the battery ... I have no idea how that worked, but just figuring that out must be great.

Jason C

Sure they get respect, sometimes.

Shadow Wizard

@TravisJ not worldwide, among themselves.

Jason C

In any case, if nothing else, think of it as the same reason people post answers on PPCG.

Travis J

I suppose non invasive hacking, such as local video games, has its place.

Bart

Hey now, don't you go hacking video games. I need to make a living. For shame!!

Travis J

7:11 PM

Defense contractors for the government that hack, I mean I suppose it is still hacking, it just seems different in that scenario.

@Bart - power overwhelming?

when you have one sunken colony and one zergling to rule them all

Shadow Wizard

As teenager I "hacked" several games to bypass their protection... that was ugly, I used something to alter the executing file on the fly in the memory, so it wasn't permanent.

Jason C

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Travis J

I think mIRC caused a lot of hacking because it was already so questionable just to pull from there.

Shadow Wizard

These days most "real" hackers work for governments. North Korea, Russia, China.... and USA too of course.

Bart

Nah, not the USA. Just those evil Russians with their evil hacks ... right ...

Shadow Wizard

7:15 PM

I bet the first three use intimidation more than money to keep them at bay...

Travis J

I mean, attacking the idea of democracy is kind of evil.

The defense of "yeah, we did that, but it wasn't state sponsored" doesn't seem all that convincing either.

rene

I saw a documentary about StuxNet y'day where they interviewed one of the programmers. Turns out StuxNet was just an on-the-side project of something much bigger ...

Bart

Got to keep yourself occupied during the weekend I guess :D

rene

Possibly, yes :D

Travis J

@rene - You mean like shutting down Kiev's power grid?

Shadow Wizard

7:22 PM

@rene that one was developed by both USA and Israel armies together, it's not a secret anymore...

I work with someone who might have taken part writing it...

Travis J

Did it get published during that "unleash all teh secret hacking tools" thing?

Shadow Wizard

@TravisJ not sure... it was published in our local media at some point.

It was aimed to slow down Iran's nuclear plans.

Travis J

I meant the source code

rene

@ShadowWizard yeah, I didn't get the full-story on that or forgot about it.

Shadow Wizard

@TravisJ oh, don't think the source code itself was made public... not that it really matters though.

rene

7:26 PM

@TravisJ I'm not sure if the source code was leaked but it got reversed engineered when Symantec found it and they wanted to write counter measures

Shadow Wizard

They used exploit in Siemens machines, the code is probably some very low level C or even assembly... no idea.

Travis J

Most hacks aren't done from low level, unless they are from firmware. Mostly it is from heap spraying.

Sometimes it can even be injected powershell if you get into a windows machine.

Not sure why there is all the hacking effort anyway, just hand out free IE copies.

Shadow Wizard

lol

John

10:56 PM

Oh please. I put a bounty on this question and what does it get? Nothing! Rather give my bounty to a high-quality, well written "I agree because..." than give it to the trash

Shadow Wizard

11:18 PM

@John welcome to the club! That's the fate of most bounties in MSE, always was. But still, one out of ten do work somehow, so I keep putting them. :)

Shog9

@John I mean, I can post an answer that says "I agree, but also think folks should put non-trivial code into answers"

...but I doubt you'd want to award it a bounty

Shadow Wizard

so cruel, you can just cancel the bounty. :)

Jason C

2017, and the "Add new credit card" button on the Delta Android app payment screen just... doesn't work. Ends up on a broken form. Amazing.

What's that movie where one day a year everybody murders whoever they want?

I want that, but just for me.

And also I want it to last like, a week or two.

Shog9

why on earth are you using a Delta app?

I vaguely recall installing that once on a flight where they said it'd let me watch free movies... It didn't.

Jason C

I fly delta almost exclusively so the app is very handy.

It's actually pretty nice. Except I just got a new credit card. And, fail.

The movies are always free though.

Shog9

11:28 PM

After years of using Stack Overflow, I have very little faith in the ability of android app developers to produce anything that consistently works.

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Jason C

Yeah, I actually had the same destruction of faith, for the same reasons. Although, granted, I started with very little faith in developers in general to begin with.

John

@ShadowWizard No I can't.

Shog9

Remember when Microsoft rolled out .NET, and was like, "We're gonna drag all the VB devs into the 21st century, with type safety & exceptions & data structures that aren't arrays & stuff"... And the VB devs were like, "FU, MS - we liked using variant arrays for everything! REDIM 4EVAR!"

...I think they all went to Android

Jason C

I resent that, I did not go to Android.

Shog9

yet

Jason C

11:32 PM

I actually have vb6 on here, and I still use it from time to time, lol.

Shog9

you poor bastard

John

@Shog9 I want a description re-enforcing why the feature-request should be implemented, not something that should be a comment. :)

Jason C

I love it so much, but it's more about the nostalgia.

John

Or a developer answer saying "this request has been implemented"

Jason C

I miss the cool factor of having a massive collection of activex controls. Like 10 columns of them in the palette.

80% of them broken.

I still get some of that glory in rad studio with vcl components I suppose. Another miserable piece of software.

Qt5 added support for activex controls on windows, for some reason. Kinda funny.

Shog9

11:37 PM

oh yeah, the good ol' days.
programmer, I need to do a thing!
user, you are in luck - I wrote an app to do that thing!
GIMME!
first you need to register these controls.
...ok?
and one of them needs a different version of the MSVCRT
can you just make me an installer?
Yes! Here you go.
Your installer crashed.
<10 hours later>
...so I wrote you a batch file to do that thing...

Jason C

Although qt5 dropped qwebview which is annoying. Embedded ie is cool but not cross platform.

@Shog9 My installers never crashed.

Shog9

Best thing ever? Controls that did random stuff in their dllregisterserver export. Like, copy files, or contact a key server.

Jason C

And hard coded "C:\" in pathnames.

Shog9

And required full admin access, both to install and to run

Jason C

Aw, that reminds me, I haven't done anything on drives A and B in so long. I miss you guys.

@Shog9 Oh btw I found a way to implement "get value" with window events, although then you have to make everything promise-y.

pastebin.com/sx6MwLjt you can pass a jquery deferred object through the event and use that.

Also it appears I don't actually have to pass jquery as a parameter to the injected script, since $ already works on the page.

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