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user202362

00:30

user202362

what do you think of this ^@ shog

John

The correct way of pinging is @Shog9

user202362

00:57

this is quiet, I assume everyone is drinking

John

01:09

🚫🍺🚫

Journeyman Geek

01:22

I'm at work ._.

On the other hand, everyone else comes in on an hour later and all I have is some web page editing (until half past 12 at the other other building...) so I'll be slacking off unless needed

Journeyman Geek

01:50

annnnd done

user315433

02:01

Nov 1 '14 at 0:13, by cVplZ

@Frank there's no need to ever ping Shog, he sees all

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hello people.

Jason C

05:37

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Elephant

07:18

@SmokeDetector why?

the last answer seems legit. probably one-time case

rene

07:35

delv-pls 20K save meta.stackexchange.com/questions/297025/ios-save-button needs one more so either @Bart or @sha

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cv-pls off-topic meta.stackexchange.com/questions/297030/… needs 2 more votes and then delete votes.

Should have tried my canned comment first, sorry ...

user202362

I am getting this on tavern page, why?

rene

@Telkitty something is busy ... try IE6 as that breaks all scripts

user202362

chrome ...

rene

08:01

I'm on chrome and I have no repro ...

Can you try running chat over https?

Elephant

@Telkitty does this always happen even after refreshing? no repro on Chrome, even with other userscripts running

though jQuery is quite old already, sometimes need to rest

rene

quite old from 2011 ... I must be what? Pre-historic?

user202362

doesn't happen any more

Elephant

hey, jQuery was from 2006. it is quite old... like, remember the original Friendster?

rene

09:10

wrong room @BhargavRao? ... ;)

Bhargav Rao

err nope.

rene

welcome back then ...

Bhargav Rao

Been lurking here for a few days :p

Bart

09:23

I felt a disturbance in the force

rene

:D

Looks like this is going to be a regular Saturday: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/297033/…

We'll meet our targets ...

Bart

Myeah, hammered.

Elephant

grab popcorn

rene

I've used Datanet-1 long before the internet even existed. How is that relevant?

Shadow Wizard

11:08

@Telkitty isn't it obvious? The Anti Telkitty code was too busy.

@rene sounds dangerous, like Skynet-10

@Bart nice hammer you got there!

Bart

11:55

Given how the comment thread progressed after that ... I'm glad I used it.

Elephant

throws popcorn away

Bart

Throw it in the direction of me pls

The Dark Side

Of course, he's not an elephant :P

rene

It's the popcorn that matters ...

The Dark Side

^

And not where it is coming from ...

:P

Jason C

12:34

afdshlkjhglkjdsahflkajshfadsfkh

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@TheDarkSide That gif is giving me the inexplicable urge to pick things out of my teeth.

The Dark Side

@JasonC We are together on that.

On our respective teeth, that is. :P

Jason C

Lol

user202362

rene

12:51

I guess we can delete this: meta.stackexchange.com/a/297039/158100

Elephant

13:04

If SE implemented anonymous close-vote and delete-vote just like anonymous voting (which doesn't seem to be useful in daily use), I wonder what would the result be.

rene

More drama on Meta I guess

> Thanks, in advance

What is that comma doing there?

Elephant

@Elephant Perhaps I used wrong term... not about anonymity, but that feature when you can "up/downvote" a post without logging in.

@rene it's his signature, "in advance"

rene

@Elephant ah, yes. Well, it is now gone

@Elephant Hmm, that would be interesting. I don't think that should be binding but ... i don't recall that has ever been proposed. How do you think it will help in driving quality up?

Elephant

Dunno, probably will only emphasize controversial posts where users want to censor it.

In the end, "more drama on Meta I guess"

Journeyman Geek

lol

take away bugs and drama... and what's left?

Elephant

13:21

dream

Elephant

14:03

Heh, I (ab)use my "about me" to keep my "what to ask" questions by HTML commenting them. Perhaps, it can act as multiple drafts.

user315433

14:40

You'll also notice that account hasn't been used for over a year. That seems to be an archived account at this point. We're not gonna continue updating something that never gets used. — animuson ♦ 33 mins ago

user315433

So, it's okay for SE to have an abandoned account just sitting around, but when this happens to a site, it's taken offline...

Jason C

15:02

not a reply

@rene @hichris123 don't move any smokey messages today i'm testing auto move scripts

@SmokeDetector @Guero Ignore. Testing. Sorry. Multiple replies.

rene

OK

Prepares for complete transcript to be gone due to broken RegEx

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Elephant

Sometimes I wonder what the uploader think when they uploads music with still image to video sharing and appends the title with "1080p HD"...

bjb568

15:19

snail time

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Jason C

15:42

test2

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Elephant

@JasonC just a friendly advice, but you may consider the sandbox first :)

(oh, and the topbar chat room browser works)

Jason C

I could move some smokey messages to the sandbox I suppose. Except, I'm inconsiderate. So, ha ha ha.

Oh sweet

Thanks for your testing help and bug reports btw

Elephant

sure, no sweat

Jason C

That overscrolling thing is stupid. I kinda feel like the option to not scroll parents should actually be an official css overflow style or something.

Shog9

Like the option to disable zooming on mobile? Yeah, that's my favorite :-|

Jason C

15:57

Blame the programmer, not the option.

Shog9

Oh, I do. Bitterly.

At least chrome lets me disable it.

user315433

Disabling zoom disabling .... next, a CSS option to disable that

Jason C

16:47

How about overflow-x: reboot-computer;

Other options include overheat-battery or call-911, for mobile views.

Jason C

20:33

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Sweeeeeeeet

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Not really.

Jason C

Totally:

First auto move test success

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@JasonC interesting

Jason C

@hichris123 @rene ^^^ Also feel free to start moving messages again. This script works but it's fugly, I'll send it your way after I clean it up.

user315433

21:20

> enhance

Jason C

22:04

Enhance, Enhance, Enhance | NTSF:SD:SUV | Adult Swim

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Henry WH Hack v2.0

Nothing much has happened since I was gone.

Jason C

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Shog9

22:46

Heh... Eh, @Jason, y'know that big chunk of code you wrote to make scroll-to-message work properly? Turns out chat already has functionality for a fixed top-bar built in - to enable it you just gotta add a special class to <html> before chat initializes.

Jason C

@Shog9 Lol... you know, I saw some header offset stuff in the code but couldn't figure out how to tap into it.

Shog9

Not much help now that you've already fixed it, but... For future reference...

Jason C

Well I'll gladly simplify it to that, I don't like reinventing wheels.

What's the class?

Shog9

To make it work, you gotta do three things:
1. Add `document.documentElement.classList.add("fixed-header");` to the userscript (should be like one of the first things that runs, and NOT part of the code that's injected into the page.
2. Add `// @run-at document-start` to the script metadata, so that we get a shot at modifying the DOM before chat initializes
3. Re-add that bit of logic to listen for the "load" event before injecting the script. This'll now be needed by both Firefox *and* Chrome, since otherwise we'll be running before chat is ready.

Jason C

Ah, sweet. And changing it to document-start should theoretically prevent it from missing window load events?

Shog9

22:51

@JasonC right, so it can be as simple as the one-liner I sent you originally

Jason C

How do you set the height of the fixed header?

Shog9

You don't; it's always assumed to be 44px

Jason C

That's kinda funny.

44, or 34?

Shog9

44; no idea why

Jason C

Lol... awesome, thanks. I'll test it out as soon as I'm done rewriting this smokey message move thing, which might be one of the worst chunks code I've written this millenium.

Shog9

22:54

I have a sneaking suspicion someone already tried to make this header-in-chat thing work once upon a time, and gave up.

Jason C

Maybe it's really hard to get the right parts of master.js into master-chat.js.

Shog9

I'm kinda curious now

Github's blame is hanging Chrome :-|

Jason C

Heh

Shog9

4 3.3Ghz cores & I'm waiting on a damn webpage to load user images.

...gave up & used git blame, which was almost instant

Some days I really hate programmers

Jason C

I can't reasonably understand why I ever have to wait for my computer to do anything, to be honest. I mean, we're in the freakin' future.

And I still have problems setting up printers.

Shog9

23:04

ah! This is for the new mobile theme!

Jason C

Ohh

Shog9

Makes sense; that too has a fixed top-bar.

Jason C

And it is indeed 44px.

Shog9

@JasonC Yeah, and it's almost always the software that's the problem; printers themselves are fairly reliable... But printer mfgs can't write software to save their lives.

Jason C

Which makes no sense, they've been doing it for longer than I've been alive.

Shog9

23:08

The less software you install to support a printer, the better the printer works. If you see it installing the .NET framework, just save yourself time and burn the computer.

Cloud Print is pretty great. Printer lives in a spare room, and I can send stuff to it from anywhere I can get a data connection. And no mfg software save for one little driver on one little machine that I never print from directly.

Jason C

I like how my printer drivers are bigger than my first hard drive.

Yeah, I've tried Cloud print, I like it, but Brother has a similar service so I just use that.

They've got a decent android app too.

I'd probably get more value out of cloud print if I used other computers more, but I just carry my laptop around.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

23:24

@Shog9 Don't say that SE developers are in this room.

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