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> If I ever quit, it’ll be because of email. -- Nick Craver at 1:44 PM - 23 Feb 2017
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Paranormal

Proposed Q&A site for phenomenon believers in: Psionics:Psychokinesis/Telekinesis; ESP:Astral/Lucid/RV/NDE/OBE; Energy:Meditation/Consciousness; Magic:Occult/Healing/Reiki/Crystals/Runes/Rituals/Exorcism); ET:Aliens/UFO; Metaphysical entities: Spirits; Astrology, etc.

Currently in definition.

Should totally be renamed "Alternative Facts"
Alt-normal
@zaq a shit sandwich
@JasonC great minds... :P
@Sklivvz beat me to it :p
00:12
high five
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@JasonC yeah, need a script for that!
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It's not obvious to me what the featuring of Smoke-announcement post was supposed to achieve... okay, greater awareness of it, but...
user202362
abnormal distribution
user315433
Could be an item for mod newsletter, maybe. (Hm, May 2016 post is still in progress)
00:17
@zaq I'm not sure what else featuring is useful for.
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Usually it's "here's a new development, which may change how you interact with these sites"
I'm off to bed, later...
@zaq I kinda like that it's featured. It's cool, and it's a ton of work done by volunteers. Everybody should know about it.
As opposed to, say, featuring Joel's political anxiety attacks.
down to one outstanding flag on MSE
Quick everybody raise some more flags.
user315433
00:25
Okay, maybe feature a post about SOCVR next...
@zaq because they are taking automatic action on all sites? You don't think that's something those sites would like to know about? Considering sites like The Workplace have their auto deletion amount set to 3 that'd be a big deal for them for sure.
I think the charcoal folks already knew about that change and so built around it, but that doesn't mean they'll know about other such changes to other sites. That's just one example.
What's that thing you can type in comments that inserts a link to how-to-ask?
@zaq If you make a baller post about it, maybe they will.
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@JasonC [ask]
Sweet thanks
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This post is one of greatest spam-related mysteries on Stack Exchange.
user202362
00:32
pest.stackexchange.com
user315433
00:44
Congratulations to the new Community Management Team Lead @Shog9
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Also, JNat is now Community Operations Team Lead and Juan M is International Community Team Lead.
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Leading the whole international community sounds like a daunting task.
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congrats
01:08
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website answer: Opening multiple documents by Printable Calendar on apple.SE
user315433
@SmokeDetector Good call, bad grammar.
'in', yeah.
Sigh, there's always one...
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So, the 15 members of Community Team now have 7 distinct job titles:
8 x Community Manager
2 x Director of Community Management
Community Growth Operations Specialist
Community Management Team Lead
Community Operations Team Lead
Director of Community Development
International Community Team Lead
Did shog get promoted? Congrats
TFW you think your computer is frozen then you remember you're looking at a screenshot.
user315433
01:22
There are 114 job titles in total, the most common being "Developer" (x30). And 85 of them are held by one person. (I mean each... not all 85 by one. Although Nick Craver comes close.)
Two ways to read that, one more entertaining than the other.
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As long as they are unique, one can replace job titles with names, saving the trouble of remembering both things.
MSE user number is even more memory efficient.
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Or would be if people had accounts. Even Kristina Lustig, UX researcher, doesn't have one.
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Or it's not linked.
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01:30
Kristina Lustig, London, United Kingdom
1 1
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She does, it's just not linked. Can I send a PR to that page?
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> My roommate brought home some birthday cake, even though his bday is in August. He referred to this as a "life hack." -- Kristina Lustig at 12:43 PM - 22 Feb 2017
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She (or rather her roommate) should have an account on Lifehacks
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer, blacklisted user: Opening multiple documents by Printable Calendar on apple.SE
Rob
Rob
Why was ^ that reported twice?
user315433
01:42
Another answer was posted, so the question became active again, and all answers got re-scanned.
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> I recommend this applicant for admission as follows:
Not recommended | Unenthusiastically | Fairly strongly | Strongly | Enthusiastically, without reservation
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Such nuances of feelings, so confusing.
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I much prefer Looks OK | Needs Improvement | Unsalvageable
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Considering that the admissions committee is going to triage the applicants anyway...
@zaq ah, thanks
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02:23
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A: Open justice v secret police

Jon EricsonI volunteer at the county jail on Saturday mornings. In the jurisdiction I live in, trials are generally open to the public, there are detailed records of the proceedings and, critically, it's easy to find out if a prospective employee has a criminal past. More than false or sketchy convictions, ...

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Things we didn't know about Jon Ericson, 200 points
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100 pts was "makes typos often"
user315433
02:46
The answer Who are the Community Managers, and what do they do? does not match the company page. Tim Post removed himself from the answer, but Abby stays there despite having identical job title. Hmm.
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Perhaps the list in the answer should be replaced by a link to company page, which contains the same links to profiles? Having both seems redundant.
Then we gotta re-do the list if the company page gets redesigned and the link breaks. If we weren't lazy, we'd just update the answer.
user202362
03:01
what happened to rock's rep?
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@Shog9 Yes, but which way? Tim is on the Team according to the company page, but explicitly does not want to be in the answer.
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Also the other 2 properties with lower rent were both rented out last week, now my house becomes the lowest 3 bedroom property in the area.
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Or maybe that was an overreaction to being demoted to management, and he wouldn't mind returning to the list...
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Would it be possible to include typical timezones the team members are active in within this list? — Zhaph - Ben Duguid Jan 23 at 11:49
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03:18
in Ask Different Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 hours ago, by Tetsujin
@grgarside - I've not been following it myself, but the spam recently has got beyond a joke, so I'm up for anything that can remove it sooner. I'm really hoping that by signing myself up for it that is realised - I'm not in any way positioned to join in with the actual 'smart' analysis - way beyond my skills - but if allowing my account to participate in the filtering will aid the overall effort, I'm proud to be a part of it.
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Not sure how it really aids the effort, one access token is as good as another...
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In fact, distributing the flags between more users makes it less likely that they'll notice and retract the mistakenly cast flags.
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Come on, at $565 per week, my 3 bedroom house costs only as much as a brand new 1 bedroom apartment across the road. Although it's not available until tomorrow - still a bit painting to finish this afternoon. Quick, before it's all gone!
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A: How much vanilla will kill a person?

QuansithutThe primary question is "If I drank a shot of expensive vodka from a 750 ml bottle and a clone of me drank the same expensive vodka from another 750ml bottle but one that had 6 Tahitian fresh vanilla beans that were split in half and soaked for six months in said vodka, would we have different to...

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Life is great - I get to do so many interesting things <3
03:51
@zaq Good question. I'll bring it up.
04:18
spammy time
@SmokeDetector why
@qwer Body - Position 536-556: buying" a green card
@SmokeDetector f
04:38
they claim SO is affected by cloudflare vulns but i dont know how accurate that is
Rob
Rob
Any site behind cloudflare was affected
user315433
Yeouch, one buffer overflow that thankfully did not impact Stack Overflow https://twitter.com/taviso/status/834900838837411840
Rob
Rob
Twitter's blocked here - can you give a summary?
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IDC personally, I can't change my password anyway...
Rob
Rob
I don't see how someone can say SO wasn't affected. Perhaps no one has found leaked SO information cached, but that's quite different.
04:44
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: brainfireadvice.com/biovivacity/ by Bikalyb on graphicdesign.SE
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> Yeouch, one buffer overflow that thankfully did not impact Stack Overflow - Geoff Dalgas
i thought they dropped cloudflare months ago; hence the skepticism
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Also, hi @Quill, a bearer of bad security tidings.
Yup
And I don't think they used the specific leaky features
@Rob non Twitter sauce.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: x4up.org/pure-nitro-max/ by iiomr pus on apple.SE
Rob
Rob
04:49
@JourneymanGeek Cheers - that's the first article I wrote. From what I understand, though, is that information from anywhere could be leaked to sites that were using those features
That is, a faulty feature used on site XYZ may leak memory which was related to site ABC
Also
@Rob I blame being on a phone on a bus
05:09
@zaq none in the past day.
Only one false-positive with the new expression
and... That was an answer written entirely in Chinese, so I can't get too upset about it.
The author obligingly translated it to English and posted it anyway
Two other answers were allowed through untranslated, and later deleted because no one understood them.
05:53
how did my edit get rejected because of a "subsequent edit" but the OP edit using my exact edit reason? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/15260462 strange.
user202362
hey @quill, I love your cat
user202362
Also hacking doesn't count as being courageous, say 'no' to online violation!
Anonymous
06:09
@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure whether you needed to be using those features to have your information leaked, maybe just to be a destination of the leaked data.
Anonymous
@Rob Stack wasn't using Cloudflare during the period when this vulnerability existed.
06:29
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Engine Bogs down with A/C on highway by Auzaro Industrial goods on mechanics.SE
07:11
perspectiveapi.com this seems neat
07:51
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Is there a connection between Lord Buddha & Hinduism? by Damaceen on buddhism.SE
08:14
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, offensive answer detected: Do Martial artists live longer by nigga on martialarts.SE
!!/alive
@Glorfindel Of course
Well, not in Charcoal HQ ...
!!/alive
@Glorfindel Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
@Glorfindel plz send teh coffee
08:30
@SmokeDetector the irony...
Rob
Rob
09:12
@JeremyBanks Fair enough, didn't know SO moved away so long ago
@SmokeDetector Did that seriously just happen
God, that's glorious
09:47
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Some Ossec agents not able to communicate with OSSEC server by jerger on unix.SE
user202362
10:03
@SmokeDetector spam? Googling "It’s a piece of bad news that the development team of the Perian plug-in for QuickTime has no longer maintained on this product" (exact phrase, quotes included) returned some infamous multimedia converter sites.
confirmed spam. Googling"You suddenly fail to play AVI, FLV, WMV, and MKV etc. files in QuickTime" also returned some.
@SmokeDetector k
How come new beta sites aren't automated by now? Apparently it still requires human intervention when 100% commitment is reached, usually done on a Tuesday.
10:35
Literature SE now has temporary moderators
@Stijn I consider that a feature.
@Stijn It's how they keep Jon busy.
A new site already needs a lot of work by the community moderators, it's not really worth to automate creation itself.
I haven't been actively involved in a beta before, so I wouldn't know :)
@Bart that reminds me.. @JonEricson did you manage to catch up with the survey badges? :p
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Movie trailers and online movie site using asp.net with c# by Nazia Ruhi on superuser.com
11:03
@SmokeDetector f
@Stijn You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
Why is literature.stackexchange.com/q/1807/139 downvoted? It has way more useful details than your average Sci Fi SE story-id question.
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12:10
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I never realised there was a unicorn on the UK passport, I always assumed it was a horse
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I mean, it couldn't be a donkey because nobody uses donkey on their passport
What's donkey with horn?
@qwer unicorn 2.0
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mutation is the key to fairy tales
user202362
12:18
maybe the first unicorn people saw was indeed a donkey with Fibrous dysplasia or Exostosis / Osteoma
12:49
This is the first I'm using 2k-edit privilege to edit 2 answer posts simultaneously... (moving some info from a post to another)
Interesting bit of history, apparently the chained unicorn represents the braveness of Scotland
Goes back ~700 years
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chained ... brave ... ~snap~
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“People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought, which they avoid.”
— 	Søren Kierkegaard
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so true
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Democratic voting system is nothing but a system where every one votes for their self interest ... or at least what they think is for their self interest
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13:05
I wonder who voted for 'the public good'
I've been reading up on that Cloudflare issue, from what I gather it's one of the biggest screw ups ever on the internet. You should change every password you have and accept that possibly a bunch of private information got leaked.
user315433
13:20
I'd rather accept that nobody cares about my private information.
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I sure hope that someone care about my private information - I have my private mobile number on a large ad on one of the busiest roads in Sydney in the hope of someone would ring me and rent the house!
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forced impression on passersby motorists ~ 10000 a day
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spam the motorists ...
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it's only slightly larger than A2 size ... should have used A0
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating words in body: explain the impact of the cuban revolution on Cuba's economy by boomer on history.SE
13:29
SD TP-
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Hey I just spammed you
And this is crazy
But here's my number
So call me maybe
It's hard to look right at you baby
But here's my number
So call me maybe
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@SmokeDetector Doesn't look red-flaggable; it's a LQ question in title + filler in post body
@Telkitty is it that hard to find someone to rent your house? Over here you get to visit a house in a group together with an agent and you pray to be the lucky one who gets to rent the house.
The most recent one I had to provide proof of income, job history, why I want to move to that city, why I want to move to that house,...
In addition to the usual warranty (?) worth 3 months of rent
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@Stijn no, it's the 3rd day on the market
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but wider audience is always better, more choices so I can choose better tenant
user202362
13:38
I know that I am being a b!tch :/
It's your full right :)
 
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15:18
@Telkitty Just ... please don't make the mistake of only considering people with a pristine record, no single history of bad credit and a super-awesome job
15:39
SHA-1 collision and CloudBleed. Wow.
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@SmokeDetector Undo started out with the username ErwaySoftware... If he linked to metasmoke (metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com) then, it would have been reported.
Is this guy sharing his SO credentials with the world? github.com/request/request/issues/1523
(I think I know Python pretty darn well, but I feel incompetent about web stuff...)
15:55
@b_jonas lotta folks aren't big fans of Story ID questions, period
@Telkitty this is every system of government. Only thing that changes is who gets to vote.
MS now has over 100 registered autoflaggers
Which means undo sits on the biggest database of API write keys of SE anyone outside of SE staff has ever aquired
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Not sure. There used to be unofficial mobile apps.
17:29
Migrate to Skeptics.SE:
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Q: Did Robbie Williams write any songs for Take That?

Keith McTaggartThe title says it all really. Great writer is our Robbie but I'm wondering if Gary Barlow allowed him to write for Take That.

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17:46
Oooh Take That. :swoon:
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I know Robbie didn't write that one...
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Congrats to @Pandya, a new mod at Hinduism! Please welcome your new pro tem moderators
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Getting a mod message from "The Destroyer♦, a Hinduism Stack Exchange moderator" may be scary...
Beats "I am become death"
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18:14
Did Hinduism set a record for pro tem mod shuffle? I'm losing track of it.
I highly doubt it
I guess it depends on what you're measuring
...but I still tend to doubt it
there are a few sites that've gone through multiple complete sets of moderators
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2014-07-14: senshin, cheenbabes, Mr. Alien
2014-11-06: +Keshav Srinivasan
2016-02-08: +Ankit Sharma, -senshin. -cheenbabes
2017-02-27: +Pandya, +TheDestroyer, -Ankit Sharma, -Mr. Alien
18:31
Which backfired a bit, as it tends to do
19:14
oh @Pandya congrats for the diamond! Use it well! :D
lel, I'm going to a math conference and missing school, but I forgot to give them an absence note, so I'll be calling in sick
user315433
19:35
What conference, a link?
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in Ask Different Chat on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 17 mins ago, by patrix
The Smoke Detector and whoever is currently active on the site manage to catch the spam posts rather quickly, usually they are gone within minutes. And while having a separate queue for bot-flagged spam would be helpful to verify detection accuracy it seems that right now the number of false positives is zero.
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Yes, that... I think having a list of recently spam-nuked posts would reduce the number of concerns the mods may have about SD.
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Hm, @Andy's Smokey-announcement post links to the FR about retracting flags via the API, but it's not in the Linked column. (?)
@zaq The post was created on MSO and migrated. That probably has something to do with it
19:45
@JasonC that was submitted to gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com right?
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> The older I get the less I treat braces as optional. What is happening to me? -- Nick Craver at 9:48 AM - 24 Feb 2017
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Yes, some people change their outlook on life after they get their semicolonoscopy result...
20:11
@zaq tpu-
20:29
can any mod help me? I lost some reputation causes by a documentation reputation recalculation. I am guessing an reason and would like to know if I am right
I wrote some very basic android examples which where migrated from one topic to another. For some reason I was not in the edit history (some restriction I cannot remember), now I would guess that this not explicitly from me created examples caused that reputation lost. Can anyone look if I have any reputation left from documention changes?
@ɥʇǝS Of course
Happiness is quickly fleeting.
I found an example which is from me: stackoverflow.com/documentation/android/1552/…
@rekire that whole Docs rep calc is riddled with bugs and I imagine it is of the same quality of Q/A rep calc in the early days that needed a recalc now and then as well to sort out strange stuff. Give it 6 to 8 to resolve ...
And if it is not bugs then it is unclear functional specs
20:44
I remember that I lost that time back also rep^^
Yeah, the system cached that experience and now re-applies it
21:24
@Stijn I did. There might be a few folks who didn't get one because they screwed up entering their profile urls. Probably should check my tickets.
22:16
I feel like I've probably posted this somewhere before, given I've had the query open for three months... But on the off-chance that I didn't, here's some data on questions asked after viewing a help center page:
Slug                               Questions asked after viewing ... Well-received Pct Well-received
---------------------------------- --------------------------------- ------------- -----------------
how-to-ask                         9979                              6323          63.363062431105
bounty                             3214                              2370          73.739887990043
whats-reputation                   3048                              2108          69.160104986876
mcve                               2105                              1548          73.539192399049
(that's over a 60-day period, starting 30 days ago)
"Well-received" means score is >= 0, not closed and not deleted
"Pct Well-received" for ALL questions posted during that time period is 70
@Tom are you saying you won't be satisfied until someone provides information which agrees with your theory? He provided a reason for the shape and showed designs to suggest it was only supposed to be a heart. It's pretty easy to see that at some angles it may look like mickey ears, but this is quite a convincing argument that it is coincidence. It would be hard to have it look like a heart from every angle. — JMac yesterday
Found Jmac's sock
@Shog9 why would someone look for "What's Beta?"
22:33
@M.A.R. who knows.
@Shog9 the highest >50 times clicked percentage is 84, and searching
Should tell peoples to search more
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So the best questions are asked after finding out your sockpuppet got busted.
Don't ask is 60
user315433
How come there is no slug dont-answer?
@zaq or when you're looking for a job
@zaq people go ahead and answer anyway
Writing a good upvoted question after reading about harassment is 50/50
22:44
@zaq there's a historical reason for the on-topic / dont-ask split; the former corresponds to the mod editable section in the old FAQ
@zaq If you are talking about user-was-removed, my guess is many people seeing that who are innocent bystanders have already demonstrated an ability to write upvote-worthy posts.
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Does masturbation cause muscle loss? by Muscle Palace on fitness.SE

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