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user202362

02:06

I was never very fond of mathematics but was deep in love with physics and ended up as a engineer so how. Maybe I was never very good with abstraction ... or maybe I was more preoccupied with being pragmatic. Maths is a great tool, but more times people are more interested in what a great tools can make than how good you are with that tool ...

user202362

For example, I post an ad to rent a house, one of the webpages indicated that I had 31 views from 9pm yesterday - 11am this morning for the ad. 31 is a number, it means very little by itself, in order to make sense I could compare the number against what the ads for other houses in the suburb are doing.

user202362

I could also use metrics such as the amount of phone or email queries I have received.

user202362

I have seen old, cheap, rundown houses that had nearly 3000 views before it's rented out, and I have seen a brand new, upscale, relatively expensive apartment in the same area that rented out with just 36 views.

user202362

02:25

a number is only the abstraction of all the variables behind it at that point

user202362

I am only interested in the number because the variables behind the number is very close to the variables that I am interested in ...

user315433

> If I explain my views on non-black turtlenecks (grey is acceptable, but not white) odds are someone else will want to share their opinion too. meta.physics.stackexchange.com/a/9662

user315433

Dark non-grey colors here: navy or maroon.

user315433

I also have an opinion on outstay vs overstay but maybe that's one opinion too many.

ɥʇǝS

@zaq I wanna hear it.

user315433

02:35

Mari-Lou A already expressed it better than I would, in To outstay vs. overstay one's welcome

user315433

My familiarity with the word comes from a slightly different context... "overstayed my visa" has over 10,000 Google hits; "outstayed my visa" is under 300.

user315433

(For the record, I've done neither, so there's no need to take a stand on my behalf.)

ɥʇǝS

why.. would you expect me to support you overstaying a visa? Or am I misunderstanding?

@zaq Interesting read.

user202362

02:53

“Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion"

user202362

no opinion of their own

user315433

@ɥʇǝS Perhaps not you, but supporting the folks who do such things in search of a better life is pretty common stand-taking material in some circles.

ɥʇǝS

03:09

@Telkitty source for that quote? Very interesting.

@zaq hm.

user202362

How much is 'welcome' worth? Would it save me if I was about to drown in a river? </sarcasm>

iled

Hi all! I have read some posts here on meta on this issue, still, I decided to bug you here in chat just to make sure. I have been doing some reviews (triage, first and late posts).

It looks that there is a trend, where when I flag as "too broad" or "unclear what you're asking", those tend to age away, while others such as "off topic" or "NaN" are quickly accepted. I mainly use too broad or unclear when people just ask for "teh codez", or very incomplete questions without a MCVE. Is this flagging incorrect?

user315433

@iled Not an answer is a different story: those flags go to a different queue and get processed in reasonable time. (Same for other flags cast on answers)

user202362

@ɥʇǝS Apparently it's by Søren Kierkegaard

user315433

The Close queue habitually has more tasks in it than there are reviewers willing to look at them. So they tend to age away.

iled

03:16

Oh, that makes sense. Is then reasonable to recast those flags again, right?

user315433

You may have had more success with off-topic if those are very straightforward cases so that the post gets several flags quickly.

user315433

You may recast the aged away flags, but... I wouldn't bother. If the question is so unclear that it can't be answered, it's the author's loss.

user315433

I would downvote and forget about it.

iled

I understand that. I do not have access to those queues, I imagine that there is also the need for a unanimous vote among reviewers

I see your point, but it is not only the authors loss, it is also the cluttering of the site... so, in a way, its everyone loss (ok, I know this is somewhat exaggerated :P)

user315433

If a question has score <0 and no answer, it's automatically deleted in 30 days - even if it's not closed.

iled

03:21

I see. I did not know, I thought it required more negative than -1.

Thank you for your input

user315433

For reference: stackoverflow.com/help/roomba

user315433

Speaking of which, does anyone know the rationale for the clause "or a score of 1 in case of deleted owner"?

user202362

Grow the Pie (phrase)

Grow the Pie is an expression used in Macroeconomics to refer to the assertion that growing the economy of a nation as a whole creates more availability of wealth and work opportunities than does redistribution of wealth. == Summary == Growing the Pie could be called "more for everyone." This is as opposed to centrally controlled economic theory, where some give up some of their slice of the pie, that others might have more. Growing the Pie refers to a theory that free market economics grow the size of every slice, and thus raises the standard of living for all participants. This theory proposes...

user202362

I am always in favour of growing the pie so there are more for everyone than allowing more people to access the same pie, so some people have to get less ...

user202362

Being nice != being ignorant or being weak

Shog9

03:27

@zaq presumably one fewer person cares

iled

Good point

Does the number of available flags per day change according to some metric (i.e., rep) or is it static?

user315433

@iled Yes, you get more if you have good flagging history and/or high rep.

user315433

Reference: stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/flag-posts the very bottom of the page

user315433

The Help Center does have a lot of such information.

user202362

To me, being a nice person means (s)he sees things are they truly are, is capable of being nasty but choose not to. But a lot of the times, a seemingly nice person is just either ignorant, weak or just pretend to be nice.

iled

03:34

@zaq Thank you for the link. The other one about roomba was very informative as well. Sorry for making questions that already answered in the Help Center

user315433

Well, I didn't say it was easy to find there. :)

user315433

Help Center is great when you know exactly what you are looking for. Its search engine is weird.

iled

:)

I actually never came upon this page. E.g., I did not know it was possible to retract flags. Once I raised one spam flag by accident (wrong reason), obviously it was declined (even though that post was closed for some other reason) and it is ruining my count :p

ɥʇǝS

@Telkitty thanks!

iled

Let's say I'm on review and I edit a post from there. In the meanwhile, the same post receives an edit from a user that does not require peer-review. My edit adds a little bit on top of that other user added, i.e., my edit is relevant for improving the post, but the difference between his edit and mine may not be that relevant, even though it adds something. Is it reasonable that my edit gets rejected?

user315433

03:51

Usually this doesn't happen because that other user will be asked to review your edit prior to submitting his. But if the actions are nearly simultaneous, it happens. Yes, your edit may end up looking silly in the diff window, and be rejected.

user315433

One example: suggested edit corrects some typos, while a 2K user corrects the same typos and removes "thanks in advance" at the end. Then the reviewers will see a suggested edit that only adds "thanks in advance". 8-/

iled

In this case, his edit went first. I got the warning that there was an edit just before I submitted mine; I open it, and decided to submit mine anyway since it added something (even if little)

Ahaha, yes, that is weird. In my example, it was more like the other way around, I adjusted more things than the >2K user

Still, I understand that it may look silly to reviewers, e.g., if the suggested edit just changes one or two characters

user315433

The simple solution is not to worry about on occasional rejection. I had a few perfectly reasonable edits rejected. :shrug: Needless to say, all of my edits are perfectly reasonable...

user315433

(Except for adding politics tag to a certain post.)

user315433

Can @bjb568 give an insight on Why does my cat not eat the hearts of its prey?

bjb568

03:59

Would you eat a heart?

Cats aren't monsters.

user315433

> If you kill anyone, make sure to eat their heart, to gain their courage! Their rich, tasty courage... tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CannibalismSuperpower

user315433

Perhaps cats don't consider their prey courageous.

user315433

Also, people do eat hearts regularly... How should one prepare beef heart? for example.

user202362

shy creatures are usually not courageous, no

user202362

I like clumsy, daring & intelligent creatures, like Australian magpies

user202362

04:09

but judged by the size of local baby pies, they are probably someone else darling already

Shog9

heads-up, I just changed the Hangul spam regexes on Stack Overflow to try & cut false-positives a bit... So, if I got that wrong, we might see either Hangul spam or folks complaining about a runaway regex making their attempt to post timeout.

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user202362

user315433

There's always much fretting about a hypothetical wrongly-spam-nuked post; few consider how many legitimate posts are blocked by spam-preventing heuristics and are lost when the user gives up...

user202362

this pie often comes to the window next to me and stare at me from there, of course that's because I feed the magpies

iled

that looks like a quite angry bird

or hungry, depends on the point of view

user315433

04:16

A bird that ends in GRY...

Jason C

@Shog9 I just tried to make a post and it timed out. It kind of feels like a runaway regex or something. Any ideas?

iled

has approved 345 edit suggestions and rejected 728 edit suggestions and improved 0 edit suggestions --> does this tell us that this user is in a reject-spree? Rejects so much and does not bother to improve any?

Shog9

@JasonC probably your network. See what TWC says when you call.

Jason C

Pfft. TWC is for the sheeple.

Shog9

well, I've never heard of your real ISP; they might actually have good customer service

(Also, making a joke about 'em in public is probably irresponsible)

Jason C

04:24

"Hello and thank you for calling Time-Warner. Please choose one of the following: Press 1 to repeat this menu. Otherwise press # to hang up."

user315433

About the sheeple, you mean?

user315433

You will be led to judgement like lambs to the slaughter--a simile whose existence, I might add, will not do your species any favors.

iled

That looks like Pulgasari

Jason C

That plot summary looks spectacular.

23% on Rotten Tomatoes, sadly.

user202362

The problem with being friendly with local birdies is that, they will constantly coming to your window and trying begging for food. When you see a bird the size of 2 normal ones, you would have this struggle inside whenever it comes begging for food - should I feed it with meat or should I make it hunt for its own food?

Jason C

04:34

Feed the smaller birds to it.

iled

@JasonC Its really worth to see it. It is an old movie, with "special" effects that are jokes nowadays (people laughed at them in a recent screening). Some weird acting. Super low budget. Kidnapped filmmaker and wife. But the plot and storyline are very good.

Jason C

I do actually intend to watch it. Annoyingly, Netflix doesn't even know it exists.

qwer

Survival of the friendliest

iled

@Telkitty get a cat (don't worry, he will spare their hearts)

Jason C

I don't think I will ever actually understand how SO's review queues work.

iled

04:41

@JasonC don't bother with netflix, youtube is free

Jason C

Suhweeet

iled

:D

Hint: the "monster" is a metaphor for the dictator/king/govern -- the movie was actually censored for a couple of years

Jason C

Heh... I haven't done much CV queue reviewing on SO in a while. These questions are absolute crap.

user315433

It'd be nice to have a sequel to Off topic questions have to be cleared out of the way, but NOT via closure

user315433

(Not necessarily by the same author)

user315433

04:50

> "Should I downvote, vote to close or flag? Should I do all of that?" - we need to make this much, much clearer. meta.stackexchange.com/q/285889

Jon Ericson

05:02

@zaq Navy I can live with. It could make a decent base layer for a pullover sweater or blazer. Maroon? The less said the better.

Also, I'm surprised I picked outstay. Huh.

user315433

The color reminds me of Texas A&M, those were good times. And of an album I like...

user315433

Barenaked Ladies - Pinch Me (Video Version)

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Shog9

05:22

Speaking of Texas, some anonymous benefactor has been beefing up the migration FAQ

user315433

As in, FAQ on SO's position concerning migration to the United States?

user315433

Texas could bring a fresh perspective there for sure.

Shog9

Of course. Hence, Texas.

SmokeDetector

05:41

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Received a letter from Toll Roads asking for Toll Due. Is that a scam? by fucku on travel.SE

iled

05:58

Trapped in wikipedia, I found my self reading about Alvin and the Chipmunks

The starting point was being writing a function to blur an image.

user315433

06:18

Convolution with a Gaussian?

iled

Bingo!

gaussian -> blur -> song2 -> damon albarn -> gorillaz ->virtual bands -> alvin and the chipmunks. I think Wikipedia should be renamed to Wickidpedia.

user202362

Texas always reminds me of taxes ...

iled

06:43

Austin reminds me of autism

Journeyman Geek

07:02

Oo

Shadow Wizard

07:37

Weird.... can it be.... no... so unlikely.... Shog handling custom flags on MSE?!

Oh well, better late than never. Probably.

</rant>

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to optimise images in magento 1.9.x to speed up the page load by Tanapornclinic on magento.SE

rene

@ShadowWizard :( what makes you special?

qwer

@SmokeDetector apparently it's NAA and not porn

rene

@qwer I tpu-ed it as spam

qwer

I also flagged it as spam too though shrug

Shadow Wizard

07:47

@rene hmm? Why special? All flags are taking months to be handled.

I have already raised a custom mod flag asking exactly that, but it is pending since November 19th... Still, thanks for the bump. I guess the [status-norepro] was assigned because it's only reproducible on specific sites. — Glorfindel Dec 12 '16 at 18:48

I don't think I've ever had a custom flag on MSE handled in less than a week. Maybe I'll check the times.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: How to optimise images in magento 1.9.x to speed up the page load by Tanapornclinic on magento.SE

rene

@ShadowWizard yes, staff have better things to do. You are either special or Shog arrived on that particular q/a pair which made ~~declining~~ handling your flag a piece of cake. Having to click through the flag queue is just boring.

Shadow Wizard

!!/report magento.stackexchange.com/questions/161418

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard Post 1: Already recently reported

Shadow Wizard

spam seed ^

@rene yeah, I didn't blame anyone, can totally understand, just saying it's pointless to flag, knowing the flag will be ignored. And those weren't my flags that got handled today. :)

(see homepage, several questions got status tags by Shog - those are result of flags asking to add those tags.)

rene

07:54

@ShadowWizard Thursday is his status-* day

Shadow Wizard

@rene hmm.... wonder why

Maybe Shog is in.... good mood?? :D

M.A.R.

Good mood declining requests?

Shadow Wizard

08:18

@M.A.R. Good mod approves requests

;)

Dunnno how many he declined, just how many he approved....

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: infiniteallurehelp.com/gladiator-flashlights-de/ by FrncElion on apple.SE

SmokeDetector

08:41

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Need program to help remove information from scanned documents by Connie Yu on softwarerecs.SE

M.A.R.

09:09

@SmokeDetector K

Oh wait, I already feedbacked using FDSC

Shadow Wizard

what's FDSC?

and yeah, it didn't record your feedback here metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/58445

@SmokeDetector k

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard Flag Dialog Smokey Controls, that is, a userscript that feeds back to metasmoke when we flag

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. huh. Well, nothing like that for me. Nice that it detects duplicate feedback and blocks it.... :D

M.A.R.

It didn't use to

But with Smokey getting official and all, such superfluous stuff seems necessary

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. who fixed it?

M.A.R.

09:15

Either Undo or Art

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. You mean either @Undo or @Art, wonder who of them... ;)

Anyway, will the coffee and tea also be official?

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews coffee for @ShadowWizard

M.A.R.

Ahh, both of them are now pingable here

Shadow Wizard

yup

M.A.R.

Must be because of the meta post

Good thing they're not pingable in Den

Or maybe bad thing

Shadow Wizard

09:19

@M.A.R. well, Undo came here few days ago in response to my ping, Art didn't post here for a while but visited the room yesterday or today without posting.

rene

And now they're doomed

Shadow Wizard

(he wasn't pingable yesterday morning)

rene

We'll ping them everyday ....

Shadow Wizard

nah, I will only ping @Bart every day.

It's fun.

lol actually @Art is pingable in Den.... so tempting..... :P

rene

That reminds me: @bart did you check kamergotchi.nl you might like it ...

Bart

09:21

Zondag met Lubach is my Monday morning routine ;)

rene

ah, good!

Then you're up to date ;)

Shadow Wizard

throwing Zondag met Lubach back on @Bart

Bart

For shame!

Shadow Wizard

in Shadow's Den, 15 secs ago, by FOX 9000

@ShadowWizard [Powered by Yandex Translate] Sunday is Well

Is this correct?? ^

M.A.R.

Admittedly, for the first time ever, English sounds cooler than other European languages.

''Zondag'' sounds alien

rene

09:25

@ShadowWizard Zondag = Sunday and Lubach is the Dutch Seth Meyers

He is the same person who opened the whitehouse petition to make The Netherlands second: petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/…

Shadow Wizard

oh, lol

We got it in Israel too, let's see...

Lior Schleien - America first, Israel second

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So looks like he's our local Lubach.... :P

I wonder if anyone is going to polish this turd... know it's tempting for many people. :/

rene

@ShadowWizard I'm already sold, great stuff ;)

Shadow Wizard

:)

He got a satiric TV show every Saturday evening, best of its kind.

He's openly attacking politicians, especially right winged, and doing it with awesome skill.

He even brings them to the show itself for interview, and able to maintain serious discussion while still stinging them. (not alone, there are few others in the panel)

let's see if they got Wiki....

Gav Ha'Uma

Gav Ha'Uma (formerly Matzav Ha'Uma) is an Israeli satire show hosted by Lior Schleien, Orna Banai, Guri Alfi and as of the fourth season also Einav Galili. The show was broadcast from January 4, 2010 until January 15, 2015 on Channel 2 (Reshet) as "Matzav Ha'Uma" ("מצב האומה", "State of the union") and from February 3, 2015 on Channel 10 as "Gav Ha'Uma" ("גב האומה", "Back of the union"). Guri Alfi, one of the show's regular panelists, appeared in only a handful of episodes of the 2nd season of "Gav Ha'Uma", and departed from the show in favor of hosting his own late-night talk show in Channel 2...

You got such TV shows? @rene @Bart

rene

09:47

@ShadowWizard well, atm I only think Zondag met Lubach is getting at that level. There were some previous attempts but those kind-of failed. Maybe Kopspijkers and before that Keek op de week (only in Dutch sorry) are worth mentioning.

Bart

Dit was het nieuws

Maybe

The original ones

rene

Yeah. the original ones, sure. Still not as good as the BBC episodes of Have I got news for you

Bart

Oh, not even close

And even Lubach in the first season wasn't great. I'm glad they let him continue, because the first season was cringy

rene

10:05

yeah, but you can see that the full-time writers group does pay-off now

Stijn

in Belgium we have De Ideale Wereld, with a presenter we stole from the Netherlands

Bart

Meh, Eindhoven ... practically Belgium ... :p

Stijn

is he as popular with you guys as he is over here?

M.A.R.

10:22

Tavern on the Dutch

rene

@Stijn I think I only know Jan-Jaap ...

Bart

10:39

@Stijn I had to look him up. Never heard of him.

Then again, I've left the country more than a decade ago, so who knows

Shadow Wizard

10:52

@rene heh, we also got several failures, which are just bit funny but not satiric at all.

@M.A.R. עברית על הבר

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard עבריתהברעל

Shadow Wizard

two delete votes needed here @Bart @rene

@M.A.R. why poison? :(

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard I dunno what I typed

rene

@ShadowWizard completed

Shadow Wizard

@rene yay!

M.A.R.

10:59

I just rearranged your ''Hebrew at the bar''

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. it's all matter of a space...

:-D

M.A.R.

Nice

Shadow Wizard

בר is Tavern
על is On

M.A.R.

So On Tavern is Poison?

Shadow Wizard

ה is just "the" (when next to a word, if on its own, it's God)

M.A.R.

11:02

So Hebrew has articles

And I actually wonder whether you're a native speaker of English, or Hebrew

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. Hebrew, English I just learned since childhood :)

@M.A.R. lol.... no... Hebrew on the Tavern. ;)

rene

12:02

Is this spam: meta.stackexchange.com/q/291435/158100 ?

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/questions/291435/…

M.A.R.

rene k

Stijn

@rene that question together with the website in their profile, I think it's spam yeah

rene

yeah, I posted first before I visited the website ...

Stijn

+ this answer

-1

A: Is this really THE Bill Gates ? Or a Prank account?

No this is not Bill he is not free for this, Or he is not updated with latest technologies that people use today. He bill gates has lots of money to manage.

also spam

rene

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/291434/158100

SmokeDetector

12:09

@rene Post 1: Already recently reported

rene

oh

forget it then ...

Oh, I did that myself by flagging it as spam ...

needs moar coffee

Journeyman Geek

That's more low quality trolling ;p

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek yup, don't think it was spam.

rene

it had a link to the website in it, and the website was a webshop

Journeyman Geek

ah

Shadow Wizard

12:14

@rene nope, maybe author edited during grace period

this isn't webshop

rene

@ShadowWizard you are a spammer: i.sstatic.net/p36zs.png

Shadow Wizard

heh, your ISP is poisoned

I mean the answer is crappy and website not in English, but not spam. :)

rene

@ShadowWizard sure, XS4ALL has their roots in the hacker scene, so ...

Shadow Wizard

how you explain different contents for same address?

oh, OK... spammer indeed. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/291435

Still weird how he manage to have a website which appears legit to some users, and not for others.

on a totally different matter... @Oded how was the conference? Your speech? :-)

Oded

12:30

@ShadowWizard was a good talk. Lots of questions by the audience.

One of two talks in English - all the others were in German.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded nice... and they had drinks and waffles? :)

M.A.R.

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Q: Does someone loose reputation points for withdrawing/deleting a question?

On stackoverflow if someone posts a question and then decides to withdrawal it, do they suffer a reputation penalty?

If your rep points are brown, maybe

Shadow Wizard

lol

Oded

@ShadowWizard lots of good food. Had a good lunch there :)

Shadow Wizard

@Oded guess SE paid it all? :)

Oded

12:35

@ShadowWizard nope. Conference invited me. SE paid for my expenses (travel to/from airport and food).

Conference paid for flights & hotel.

user202362

was it one of those $1000+ per attendance conference?

Shadow Wizard

@Oded oh, thought SE sent you. How they reach out to you?

also, is it considered a day off from work?

Oded

@ShadowWizard through our marketing department. And since it was through marketing, it was considered work.

We also get 3 speaker days from SE - for conferences we submit to.

That's on top of 3 conference days to go to as an attendee.

And none of these are taken out of our vacation time.

Shadow Wizard

12:51

wow, cool!

M.A.R.

What was the conference about? Missing a lot of context here

Shadow Wizard

Any video of you there? Pictures? :)

user202362

@M.A.R. conference is trying to making money, SE is trying to sell its services of course - through the marketing department remember?

M.A.R.

@Telkitty Yeah, but the how is more important than you think

@Telkitty Actually that looks more sleepy than cynical

Shadow Wizard

@Telkitty not sure @Oded represented SE there, i.e. he wasn't introduced as "Stack Exchange developer". Or maybe I'm wrong? Oded?

user202362

12:55

heh

user202362

Bart

Stack Exchange does consider him the best. So I'd say they're more than glad to have him introduced as such.

Oded

@M.A.R. Basta! conference, for .NET/Windows developers.

basta.net

user202362

Oded

@ShadowWizard I was hoping they would record it, but no such luck.

@ShadowWizard I was there as a Stack Overflow developer, so... kinda representing SO.

Shadow Wizard

12:59

@Oded oh, no big deal. Nice name.... any relation to בסטה as in שוק? ;)

user202362

@Bart Stack Exchange has many bests, he's obviously one of them :p

Shadow Wizard

@Oded heh, so @Tel was right. :)

M.A.R.

@Oded Oh, how many languages do you speak?

Bart

@Telkitty He is the official best. They said so on their own website, right @Oded?

user202362

I am thinking of setting TRAPPIST my avatar

Oded

13:00

@M.A.R. two - English and Hebrew. I gave the talk in English, most talks were in German, and I couldn't make sense of them...

@Bart once upon a time, yeah...

Bart

:D

M.A.R.

@Oded Aww, I wanted to ask whether the German for 'speak' is 'schpeak'

Bart

Nah, that doesn't sound nearly violent enough. It's "sprechen"

Oded

I approve of the above.

M.A.R.

I make fun of German chemists over at our chat a lot

Should I feel guilty or something?

Bart

13:03

Not guilty ... just scared

user202362

scare is for those who care

Shadow Wizard

I wonder, is "Shpitz" real word in German/Dutch? @Bart

In Hebrew it's שפיץ and it does have meaning. :D

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard It means 'spits'

Shadow Wizard

lol

hope not...

user202362

13:07

only 40 light years away ...

Bart

@ShadowWizard would be Spitz in German I guess.

Would mean something like a sharp point

And @M.A.R. was close, because that would be "Spits" in Dutch

user202362

Juno hit a top speed of about 165,000 mph (265,000 km/h) relative to Earth, making it the fastest human-made object ever (though New Horizons' initial speed was faster than Juno's speed after launch).

Even if Juno were constantly traveling that fast — not just getting a speed boost en route —  it would take the spacecraft 158,600 years to reach TRAPPIST-1.

M.A.R.

@Bart M.A.R. is always close. Look behind your shoulder

Bart

I never knew you were a whiteboard

M.A.R.

You didn't look closely enough

Your primitive glasses eyes can't see molecules

MWAAHAHA

user202362

13:14

@Bart do you feel happy, if you do, M.A.R. is right in you, or at least the molecule of his avatar is ...

Bart

@Telkitty it's so sad when you realize that we'll never be able to get anywhere near such planets. Then again, humans still haven't been to Mars, so let's start there.

@Telkitty ... not sure if that makes me feel happy or violated

user202362

:x

Journeyman Geek

@Bart maybe both.

Shadow Wizard

@Bart huh! Same meaning as in Hebrew...

user202362

13:25

user202362

Bart

13:37

@ShadowWizard not surprised

Plenty of Hebrew made it into German and Dutch

Mesjogge for example

And of course Yiddish has plenty of German origins

rene

@Bart are you mesjogge?

Bart

Some will argue that

M.A.R.

I will argue against it

You're saner than me prolly

user202362

13:52

I find you avatar(Serotonin) almost a pick up line 'lemme be in you and show you some happiness' ~_~

Shadow Wizard

14:04

@Bart yup, but Hebrew itself is far more ancient

Just got tons of new words added to it over the years :)

Anyway, was going to say @Oded is a "Shpitz" - in Hebrew slang it's a good thing, meaning someone who is really good. ;-)

Oded

14:20

Aye. And it probably comes from Yiddish.

Shadow Wizard

@Oded according to this, German. :)

Oded

@ShadowWizard looks like both: שפיץ (Spitze) – חוד, קצה (גם ביידיש).

Shadow Wizard

@JeremyBanks but it wasn't migrated.... just closed as off topic at some point by 5 users. Why was it auto deleted? (which started the war with Community :))

@Oded yeah, but the source is German/Dutch. :)

anyway it's a cool word, I like it. e.g. השפיץ שמשפריץ is funny.... :P

user315433

@ShadowWizard It was migrated from SO: web.archive.org/web/20160604053919/http://…

user315433

14:36

Hence, being closed => rejected migration => deletion in 30 days no matter what the scores/answers.

user315433

That rule obviously wasn't intended for metas, but...

user315433

Jeremy cleared migration history to prevent this from repeating.

rene

Ha, I'm the fourth answer there ...

user315433

I don't know what the closing of that post was supposed to achieve, anyway... If someone wants to close all meta posts where no more input is ever needed, there are thousands of status-complete bug reports, etc...

rene

Yeah, I consider anything with status-* to be done, no closing needed

Shadow Wizard

15:20

@zaq huh, by redacting the migration revision?

user315433

AFAIK clearing migration history is something that diamond users can do, they don't need to have employee privileges.

user315433

E.g., Clearing a question's migration history doesn't restore its deleted answers by BoltClock's a Unicorn

Shadow Wizard

Oh, nice

user315433

> Useless fact of the day: The Stack Overflow Data centers have 1,240 Cores in all servers -- George Beech at 7:20 AM - 23 Feb 2017

user315433

Hm... do people normally put "Author, PhD" on book covers? amazon.com/Text-Mining-R-tidy-approach/dp/1491981652

user315433

15:34

First time I see it, at least.

Bart

Not that strange in the scientific community. And with an R book I'm not surprised

Stijn

How do you recognize a PhD? ......... they'll tell you

user315433

This doesn't even tell me if the PhD is in German Literature or in Chemistry...

user315433

Now I'm worried that when our postgraduate student friend publishes their book, it will be overlooked for the lack of the letters...

user315433

2+2=4 is it right??? — Dominic Mondol 26 mins ago

user315433

15:45

^ how to deal with this user? Consider the post on which I'm commented.

user315433

Unfortunately it seems below the red-flagging zone.

Stijn

I just have to share this rant I came across

> I know its not Rant Wednesday , but my rant yesterday was mediocre at best.
>
> Yesterday , i learned that there are people out there who swear by recruitment via Frenology. Frenology , for those that aren't aware , is the pseudo science of using cranial features to explain the behavioral patterns of a person. This dates back to the belief that humans are guided by 4 types of fluids and those have an affect on the fysiology.
>
> So to put this in perspective for you ; You go to a selection interview. You talk to the people , they take measurements of your skull and then tell you that you …

M.A.R.

Argh

@Stijn Morons type ''physiology'' as ''fysiology''

qwer

Eh, 2+2=5

Stijn

@M.A.R. it's a Dutch speaking community (mostly talking in English), so the mistake is acceptable here :p

user315433

15:50

Radiohead concur

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