@ShadowWizard I thought there was a way to see the linked questons on the site with some unlinked url? But it seems I got that wrong?

So the list of posts that are targetted by a specific post

Maybe I just misremember

I maybe be going out on a limb here, but it seems to me that really great private gardens vastly outnumber really great public ones because the owners have incentives - the gardens are a reflection on the owner, the owner "owns" any issues that may develop over time, and the owner has an incentive to invest in paying for or learning the expertise required to manage the garden.

Ah, the HOA is like meta. :)

You gotta have standards, give them a half-an-inch, and they'll take a mile.

HOA are the stakeholders that own and enforce the standards for the community.

Hey, just what are you implying about meta!

:)

HOA's are what they are. If people don't want to put up with their rules, they shouldn't buy houses in HOA neighborhoods.

@QPaysTaxes It's a bit easier to get competition on cable than government.

@QPaysTaxes why do you think they wanted to sell?

I'll go out on a limb though, and argue that they are a type of government.

> Associations provide services, regulate activities, levy assessments, and may, if authorized by CC&Rs or a state legislature, impose fines.

@rene not sure what you mean? The "linked" section in the siderbar of question contains all question closed as duplicate of that question. There are more though, e.g. mentioned in comments, and this there is MSE feature request to distinguish the different types of linked questions.

@ShadowWizard nvm ... I must have dreamed it ...

@QPaysTaxes how do you define government?

Is a municipal government a "government?"

which branch?

:)

The only thing that really differentiates it from an HOA is the power to compel by physical force, but even that's a gray line because some HOA's pay for security officers that act like law enforcement.

Of course it does have force of law...

They're explicitly provisioned for in state laws, as I understand it.

HOAs are not branches of the state.

This is contract law only.

I was originally comparing HOA's to StackOverflow's meta, where the stakeholders of SO can communicate with the governance of SO, and occassionally have some influence.

Mods would be the police.

Sure, it's just a meta phor.

:D

Get off my lawn.

"Don't walk on the grass" - condo association rules.

Good fences make good neighbors.

:)

@rene so flowers dream? Good to know! ;)

:D

@QPaysTaxes Its completly asinine and unknown to me, and entirely uncommon in germany though

If I have a house and want to fill my lawn with literal trash and paint it neon pink I can unless I violate city laws

@Magisch That probably would.

Well maybe

But you get the point. No authority other then the city and city council has a say or means of enforcing what I do on my home property

State, too, building and criminal codes and whatnot usually determined at the State level.

Well thats usually by proxy

But there is nobody fining me for having a slightly unacceptable hue of door paint

or grass clippings on my lawn

I think a lot of people buy into HOA's not realizing what rules they are binding themselves to, but they probably decide it's worth it for a beautiful and safe neighborhood.

also, painting your house neon pink is not explicitly against any laws here

Sounds like fun, let us know how it works out.

:D

Source: Some guy decided to paint his house neon pink and despite upset neighbours nobody could do anything about it

Its why I used that example

That's just what you want as a homeowner - neighbors who hate your guts.

Some old people with too much disposable retirement money and no further hobbies really enjoy neighbourhood feuds

Yeah.

Personally I never had unreasonable neighbors

When I last asked them to turn party music down they did without an argument and were mindful of it on weekdays ever since

Getting along with your neighbors is like getting along with fellow posters on the site, I guess. Sometimes I'm annoyed, but I don't hold grudges, and I remember that no-one gets up in the morning planning how evil they're going to be today. And the more experience on the site I get, the bigger the perspective I have.

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