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@balpha - just to know, a friend of mine wants to perform some test on an application he is developing. What was the collation you were using that caused the "ᔕᖺᘎᕊ bug"?
@Bart He is working on a decision support app in an oversea company after he moved there. He just want to see if he can reproduce that search bug in that app
@rene took me ... 1 minute, no ... 5 minutes before it timed out :/ ... yes just SE when I am not using tor, because the chat page just loaded fine on tor
Bart, who runs blendernation.com, has agreed to run an article when our site graduates. All articles have a featured image; we need one.
So this is a call for artwork. The size for featured image on an article is 728px wide by 336px tall.
There is no set theme (as I have no idea what should g...
I had a bad dream last night. I was typing up a clickbait news article about a crap science paper for my history teacher, and in the font I was using italic "a"s looked like alphas.
I'm particularly torn because it's just adding tags - so the review queue is filling up with automated retags on a bunch of crap questions that should just be closed.
Taggerbot is Turd-polishing. Mythbusters did a thing that yes in fact you can polish turds, however, I'm leaning toward discouraging Taggerbot since it's taking crap artifacts on stackoverflow, and making them look a little better.
Bringing crappy posts up to a tolerable level is not a recipe for the best site on the internet, it's better to take crappy posts, and delete them, and wait for a great answer to come along.
The power of the tag system comes from the words being targeted and well-placed by intelligent agents who know how a specific question through the Google AI search window can be tracked to the right answer. The taggerbot adding thesaurous words, and adding tags like; "Camera" to questions involving a camera are not going to be adding a great amount of value at best. At worst it will be adding lots of meaningless noise.
lol. Taggerbot added: "Camera" when there was already a more specific Tag: "Android-camera". I see this as a bad thing. Why not add a tag for "Phones" and "handheld computing systems" and perhaps even "android" and "Photographs" and "grapics"? Drawing the line on unnecessary tagging should be just enough for an intelligent agent to quickly get everything they need. There doesn't need to be a tree linking back to the entire semantic network structure of what kind of question this is.
Although maybe that kind of thing is the next-generation of question-answer website systems. A tree structure linking every word to every other word, and an associated tree for how they relate to the others, I work on this kind of thing in my AI class on semantic networks for lexigraphical parsing of sentences.
My take on it: treat this thing like it's a human. Is the edit good? Approve it. Bad? Reject it.
There's a good chance that this becomes useful - but that can't happen if we shut it down. Let people experiment, as long as they aren't breaking things. We have a guy who figured out how to automat...
@Undo if the review queues are being flooded by a human adding tags of questionable value while leaving a bunch of stuff that should be fixed that's not exactly a great situation either
So yeah, if this was a human I'd probably tell it to stop what it's doing
@mikeTheLiar I keep hearing that argument... and it isn't holding water for me. (1) There's a limit to how many suggestions one can have in that queue anyway, and (2) This at least gets that stuff in front of a few people. They should improve them. If reviewers don't, there's a decent chance that someone that sees them on the front page will. Net gain overall
I used to like making those kind of ideological arguments, but then I realized we're trying to run a real site, in real life
The API is there to be utilized. There are write capabilities via the API. The API is being used in many applications. It even has end points to edit questions, see suggested edits and issue flags.
The question on whether or not this is welcome is more complicated. Beginning with the ever releva...
@ArtOfCode Taggerbot only looking at the top tags and related tags seems a sensible restriction. Probably need to be careful around the "related" tags too.
I'm still looking at the code and algorithm, but I've seen many fresh SO editors adding in broad tags - tags that should be burninated, not added to posts.
@ArtOfCode, I haven't looked at the related tags api end point. Does it provide you with the ability to do combinations of tags? Or only one at a time? Can you filter out tags that have over X question (possibly allowing you to filter out overly broad tags like 'image' or 'file')
A requirement of a robot is that it doesn't waste resources. In this case, the edit review queue is a finite resource of programmer's time and good will. When you submit hundreds of tag edits adding things like "camera" when tags such as "android-camera" already exist in the thread, you are burdening a person with good will who wants to edit the site, and filling his monitor full of irrelevance, scaring away that potential good-editor from the site. Unless you can get your approval rate for edits consistently over 60%. Right now it looks like it's under 40% approval rate. — Eric Leschinski1 min ago
^^^ Only, I'd want it to be a lot closer to 100% approval and demonstrably improve the question more often than not.
Repeatedly submitting tag edit suggestions constitutes abuse for both humans and bots. It's not helpful and all of these edits should be rejected as no improvement whatsoever. Suggested edits must substantially improve multiple aspects of a post, as explained by the editing help. — bjb5682 mins ago
I don't think it's possible to make a helpful suggested edit bot.
I want to see approval rates above 80%. And more importantly, I'd rather have these suggestions spread out more evenly and properly throttled to prevent flooding the review queue.