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@UniformsForSale That's not a parabola!

I should say Hmm and test how many stars I will get.

@bjb568 Its @sha pissing

But the pee stream is piecewise-linear…

4:11 PM

Since some time.

@Rene the feeling's mutual. Let's burn the Tavern.

I must have missed the memo

Q: Is downvoting a question that has been closed by the moderators allowed?

-11

One of my questions on stats.stackexchange had been closed. Two users have downvoted it and the score has been reduced by 4. I would like to see the rule. If it is there, let it be discussed by the community.

Oh NO! 2 DOWNVOTES!

No problem, I have still down votes left...

Kinda funny how 2 downvotes got them 11 on meta.

meta is war...

4:22 PM

On chemistry meta where I have less than 125 rep, clicking upvote (and seeing kewl animation) then downvote sends negative feedback and increments the score by one…

UV not retracted

ಠ_ಠ

Unless it ain't my questions or answers, it's fine.

In case it was mine, then I put a ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) to scare the cat.

PeterJ

I can't repeat it, I wrote a userscript to remove the upvote button so I don't accidentally click it

2

user259867

@bjb568 It's the same everywhere. If you have <125, pressing vote down does not cast a downvote.

user259867

If you did cast a downvote, it would replace the prior upvote. But since you didn't...

But it should unupvote…

and have a mechanism to retract the feedback

and not seem to have duplicate feedback when you click it again and again

4:27 PM

And here's an image of @bjb scared of my ლ(ಠ益ಠლ).

user259867

If you think of the arrows as "increase score by 1" and "decrease score by 1", then yes. But this is not what they mean.

:p

@NormalHuman WELL, THE ARROWS ARE SUCK THEN

user259867

They mean "cast an upvote" and "cast a downvote".

@PeterJ Area51 is so buggy that such bug is not surprising at all... :O

I think they're just water molecules that you can click, at least on chem.

user259867

4:29 PM

It's Material Design painted yellow.

Goodbye world, going down to install El Capitan Public Beta 4.

@UniformsForSale still buggy, I don't reach that high

27m till I can use my laptop…

27 meters?

Miles.

4:33 PM

Mega

user259867

months

mail-orders

Mustard.

Huh, I put the wrong reason

askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/446783

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M illegal, must be plural

4:36 PM

Mortgages.

PeterJ

powerpoint should have a capital

Hallo from new beta

Halo

Does it feel like new-nav?

No, it's just incremental.

4:46 PM

...

ಠ_ಠ

(ง^ʖ^)ง

(grabs @UniformsForSale)

Ouch

(kicks UniformsForSale out of the door of the tavern)

4:48 PM

NoOoOo

(cold glare; walks away as if nothing has happened)

slurps mug

Everyone sees it now @Uni

(runs towards UniformsForSale who was slowly walking back into the tavern, and kicks him in the right knee with strong kinetic energy)

Flies out of tavern

Bounces back into tavern

4:53 PM

Good morning

Morning!

Can I kick people here too? I take some Kung Fu classes.

evening!

Actually, it's night in here. I was sanity-checking @Uni, seems the other @Uni hit her/him very hard.

Feeds

We will be taking Data Exploer offline for a few minutes to move things over.

Tweeted by StackStatus on August 8, 2015 at 4:56 PM

5:00 PM

in The Periodic Table on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by Loong

We will be taking Data Exploer offline for a few minutes to move things over.

Tweeted by StackStatus on August 8, 2015 at 4:56 PM

This needs sharing.

Data exploer?

Exploder?

It’s a former plover whose velocity’s been lost.

I wonder how much hurry they were in.

They didn't even check what they're tweeting!

@StackStatus Exploer? Really? Check your spelling!

Tweeted by EdwarrrrdYeung on August 8, 2015 at 5:02 PM in reply to StackStatus

Sup @Undo

Not much ;)

Not much?

user259867

5:05 PM

Smokey's still offline. :(

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Unpublished typos are invisible.

user259867

SPAM superuser.com/q/953926

@EdwarrrrdYeung @StackStatus Yeah, that's a terrible misspelling of Data Exploder

Tweeted by awesome_human_ on August 8, 2015 at 5:06 PM in reply to EdwarrrrdYeung

Kevin Brown

@NormalHuman gone

@NormalHuman it's 'cause FOX insulted him in Shadow's Den.

in Shadow's Den, 21 mins ago, by inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@sha @FOX sure hates smokey; it calls it opium equip.

5:07 PM

!!/alive?

@Undo Yup

yay

We missed you @Smokey ...

It was kinda nice to have a break.

6

@Smoke y give your uncle a hug. O.O

5:09 PM

Sup @durron597

for (p = 0; p < 1000; ++p) {
  sendMessage('chat.meta.stackexchange.com', 89, 'Sup @Undo', fkey().fkey)
}

Try it

no :P

I might not have diamond powers here, but I know people... in places... >:D

@UniformsForSale Anyone selling any uniforms?

teamfreehugs.github.io/js/min/ChatExchange.min.js

@durron597 Yep

user259867

I don't suppose I can get NormalHuman twitter name if the owner hasn't tweeted since 2009?... twitter.com/NormalHuman/with_replies

Hmm, not everything is up:

2

Q: Chat search is broken

I know you SO people don't care about chat at all. Nor do you care about fixing chat search, however I don't think you meant to really break it this time. Whatever I try to search it doesn't give any results, e.g.: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/search?q=foo&user=&room=11 results in: 0 mess...

bug chat

5:12 PM

> What if I have a request for a username from an account that looks inactive, but I don't have a registered trademark?
We do not accept requests for usernames that seem inactive. If a username you would like is being used by an account that seems inactive, you should consider selecting an available variation for your use on Twitter. In general, adding numbers, underscores, or abbreviations can help you come up with a great available username.

user259867

Step 1. Post "Hello Twitter"
Step 2. Reply to Kim Kardashian
Step 3. Announce you quit Twitter.

support.twitter.com/articles/15362

> What if I have a request for a username from an account that looks inactive, but I don't have a registered trademark?
>
> We do not accept requests for usernames that seem inactive. If a username you would like is being used by an account that seems inactive, you should consider selecting an available variation for your use on Twitter. In general, adding numbers, underscores, or abbreviations can help you come up with a great available username.

@Undo too slow old man

I beat you to the actual information

A: Should I use comma or colon?

5:12 PM

-1

I cant get past yor login requirements as I am considrd 'suspicious'. I hav an email.Dat shd b al u require.Actuly I find dis hole xercize suspicius so until u find a way 2 let me in,dont bodr me

Lemme make it a three.

@Undo um no

> What if I have a request for a username from an account that looks inactive, but I don't have a registered trademark?

We do not accept requests for usernames that seem inactive. If a username you would like is being used by an account that seems inactive, you should consider selecting an available variation for your use on Twitter. In general, adding numbers, underscores, or abbreviations can help you come up with a great available username.

@tchrist abusive?

@durron597 oh, I missed that :P

> I cant get past yor login requirements as I am considrd 'suspicious'. I hav an email.Dat shd b al u require.Actuly I find dis hole xercize suspicius so until u find a way 2 let me in,dont bodr me

5:13 PM

@UniformsForSale Well it's VLQ/NAA either way

How. Ever,
I enjoyed not understanding what the heck they wrote.

I can't get past your login requirements as I am considered 'suspicious'. I have an email. That should be all you require. Actually I find this whole exercise suspicious so until you find a way to let me in, don't bother me

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ^^

I think they posted something saying they can't post and they're irritated about it.

A: Tag scores are not updated and the issue is getting worse

I'm going to post this in here again just because.

5

The tag script now has not run for at least three days now. I know that this question is from March 2014, but this issue is absolutely not fixed. I could make a list of the tens of duplicates about this issue, but that would be somewhat of a waste of time. It harms those of us like me (lookup si...

Of course everything is getting worse.

Everything Is Catching On Fire

5:16 PM

►

@Undo Nearly.

Mostly a sample whence to derive smoke patterns. :0

Huh, just got this error message in the JS console

> too much recursion

> "Wait! Wait! I half a gooh proposhishon for you!"
"…It is difficult for me to understand you. Do you mean to say that you have a good proposition for me? Let me think… I am not interested."

You know why?

> var currentMode = ;

Slaps face

for (p = 0; p < 1000; ++p) {
  sendMessage('chat.meta.stackexchange.com', 89, '_Slaps my face_', fkey().fkey)
}

sendMessage isn't defined

5:21 PM

11 mins ago, by Uniforms For Sale

http://teamfreehugs.github.io/js/min/ChatExchange.min.js

Slaps my face

Sent through API

oh no

Bah, I sometimes ask myself what the hell am I doing here?. The most tech nerdy thing I've done is type "http://meta.chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/141/" by hand instead of copy-pasting it.

@UniformsForSale if you would have used jslint you would still have a face by now...

Feeds

The Stack Exchange Data Explorer is back online from Denver.

Tweeted by StackStatus on August 8, 2015 at 5:20 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M ProTip: use /q/141 instead. Easier to type.

5:23 PM

Yeah, that too.

@rene Thats compressed code

@Feeds Does this mean that it will update more often?

@Feeds not for me...

I think I wanted to torture myself from SE mobile.

@rene github.com/TeamFreeHugs/teamfreehugs.github.io/blob/master/js/…

5:25 PM

weird... data.se is on the 192/8 network...

oh right, is 198.168/16 that is reserved

@UniformsForSale don't complain to me, fix that code.. use a linter...

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

Hi @bjb

this is how you get yourself IP banned

I'm not spamming or anything

5:33 PM

You're anythinging.

It sends 1000 requests…

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

@bjb568 You can reduce the number in the for loop

setInterval is better.

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

@bjb568 Its just an example

Anything else you figure it out

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

5:35 PM

Hi

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

You're getting throttled right @bjb?

The cat has swallowed a parrot.

3

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

Blocks @bjb

5:39 PM

Hi @uni @uni @uni!

user259867

WinObjC tag was created yesterday, if you're into that kind of thing...

I wonder if @Uni pings the crab.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Crab?

The roundhouse kicker.

Ok, turned it off.

5:41 PM

2 days ago, by U̶n̶i̶h̶e̶d̶r̶o̶n̶

PSA: Uni will land in the chat room and land a roundhouse kick in your face if you ping them with @Uni without a decent reason.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M @bjb is dead

:p

Sup @jon

@bjb was abusing my API for chat

Ok, Jon, the setInterval is stopped.

Your API won't die now.

Kind of

5:42 PM

It's SE's API, not yours…

@bjb568 Its not my API, its your IP

Well, yeah :p

@bjb568 Nope, it just sends POST requests to chat's servers

@UniformsForSale Dunno, cats whose name start with b and talk in human chats are known to be immune to nuclear blasts.

the way our client does it

5:42 PM

@UniformsForSale i.e. the chat API

@bjb568 No such thing

Application programming interface

In computer programming, an application programming interface (API) is a set of routines, protocols, and tools for building software applications. An API expresses a software component in terms of its operations, inputs, outputs, and underlying types. An API defines functionalities that are independent of their respective implementations, which allows definitions and implementations to vary without compromising the interface. A good API makes it easier to develop a program by providing all the building blocks. A programmer then puts the blocks together. In addition to accessing databases or computer...

!xkcd find API

xkcdBot

@bjb568 Unrecognized command. Use !xkcd commands for a list of commands.

ACCESS LIMITS: Clients may maintain connections to the server for no more than 86,400 seconds per day. If you need additional time, you may contact IERS to file a request for up to one additional second.

@xkcdBot WE USE OAUTH

WAKE UP

............

5:52 PM

@U̶n̶i̶h̶e̶d̶r̶o̶n̶ People love you so much, they ping you 27 times when you're gone.

You know,

Yes, I know.

Good.

WUT?

@rene Their cursor moves outta their PC, apparently.

6:00 PM

Oh, that makes it a useful comment, thanks for clarifying that...

6:12 PM

vlq flags: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/302076/1768232

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: Basically, it is likely pregnancy by Perfect Biotics on drupal.stackexchange.com

user259867

Multiple VLQ flags don't do much... I think on the opposite, they make the flaggers ineligible to recommend deletion from LQRQ.

@NormalHuman NAA is fine too

user259867

Same thing.

Martijn already deleted it anyways

user259867

6:15 PM

Not that per-site metas have LQRQ.

7:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MPU9150 (JEFF LIB) + FIFO_OVERFLOW INTERRUPT + SERIAL PRINT by ozzmanli on arduino.stackexchange.com

7:39 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: APPLYING JSCRIPT WITH A DEFAULT VALUE by Master Machucado on stackoverflow.com

@SmokeDetector ignore- edited

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ASP.NET MVC - HOW TO SHOW TITLE OF STATUS IN GRID by user2083513 on stackoverflow.com

Boooooh @rene. Closing a question I probably would have answered. :D

Ah, would have been a dupe anyway of another question.

But still ... booooo

7:55 PM

@Bart eh? which one?

stackoverflow.com/questions/31896981/…

@Bart ...

Problem is not so much the NRE, but the fact that FindObjectWithTag will only return active objects. So trying to find an inactive one to make active ...

But the other commenter points to the exact same question being asked at the same time.

Yeah, that seems a coincidence... I think...

@Bart if the OP had asked that I would have left it alone...

No worries, it was fine and I guess he got the solution, but it was a bit more than the typical NRE if you consider the answer.

7:59 PM

Sure, let me continue closing all unity questions before Bart answers them....

:D fair enough. Then I'll get back to playing with this pixel art editor ...

You mean MS paint?

from the makers of edlin....

PyxelEdit

^ hurray for programmer art

Feeds

We have some performance degredation we will be tracking down tonight, but all services are live from Denver. Have a good day everyone!

Tweeted by StackStatus on August 8, 2015 at 7:58 PM

They're in trouble. I imagine Joel and David shouting.

8:06 PM

@Bart all kind of comments pass my mind .... but.... Nice, very nice....

Haha, thanks. Just a small thing to play with a tile engine I'm writing.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M I don't think they are that type of managers....

What type of managers?

@Bart maybe a stupid question but: can't you just pick one already available?

@rene what's the fun in that? :)

8:09 PM

Oh

It is fun....

OK

Haha, perhaps we have different definitions of fun

I think we might be close ;)

At least I'm writing it in Unity and not from scratch as I planned earlier. Does that make you feel better?

For me, fun typically means self-torture. You?

much better

8:10 PM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M that sounds like me when I write physical simulators

Or when I'm designing headers in LaTeX.

LaTeX is wonderful, but boy am I glad I don't have to use it anymore.

mumbles heretic mumbles

Frank

8:42 PM

"I don't need to 'get a life'. I'm a gamer, I have lots of lives." - unknown

Hey @Frank!

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

Frank

Hiya @Bart

user259867

9:11 PM

> Invalid attributes sent to Shitter

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/31898497/…

Jamal

@NormalHuman Hello there, Eric Cartman.

9:28 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: How to reset OTT TV BOX? by peter huskinson on android.stackexchange.com

@NormalHuman are you experiencing this? code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=497751

user259867

No, but I neither browse for 20 hours nor watch full-screen videos. That bug could be easily worked around by getting a life.

user259867

gedankenexperiment What if 15 rep gave one ability to vote on answers to own question, up or down. And 125 rep privilege was "vote everywhere, up or down".

user259867

More heavyweights join CS election: Gilles and Raphael.

Jamal

9:58 PM

nuke-plz superuser.com/a/954028/233069 (and the video link has absolutely nothing to do with it)

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ERP SYSTEM: ASSIGNING ROLES/ACCESS LEVELS? by O'Brien on stackoverflow.com

10:23 PM

holy crud - 1 more upvote and I get a Reversal

10:35 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: How to prevent adding malicious code, found in hacked Wordpress website? by Shehan Nirmal on security.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore- indeed, a lot of matching things there...

I don't know why, but each time I read "great many times" I feel that something slowly dies within me...

Perhaps often. :)

@Braiam does that happen a great many time? hides

And every time I hear paulatinamente I feel that something within me dies poco a poco. :)

10:41 PM

creo que esa sensación desaparecerá paulatinamente

Cabe esperar.

I spent like two hours today going through ELU and fixing all the posts with one of those great-many-times sort of uglinesses in them. Turns out that searching for "the below" is a very good proxy indicator for "this is a post that desperately needs copyediting".

Except I didn’t fix all of them.

Just several score.

that 'like' seems wrong

Cause?

seems redundant

It isn’t.

The sentence means something else without it.

10:45 PM

lol

either way, it's just grammar

How is it grammar?

whatever

So anything is anything. Gotcha.

I bet compilers hate you. :)

@tchrist did not say that

in any case, it is unimportant, I still feel that the 'like' is redundant

@tchrist I think you may have edited one of my ELU answers during your spree...

10:48 PM

@jimsug I think you may be right.

It was the kind of edit that I usually would have rejected because I didn't think it was necessary or even beneficial, but meh

Probably not one of the nasty ones, though.

Nah.

It was a couple of turns of phrase from aages ago.

Most took some actual work. Some did not.

There were ~200 hits.

I say ages, but I mean May of last year. Which was still a while ago.

10:49 PM

Sorry to have taken so long to getting to it. :)

5

A: Proactive vs Preemptive

Essentially, the difference between pre-emptive and proactive seems to be that pre-emptive connotes some kind of action that prevents something from occurring, and proactive connotes some kind of action intended to provoke a reaction, or some kind initiating action. See these examples and the sup...

I don't even know how that came up :P

Ah, "the below" :P

I searched for "the below" as a proxy for very badly worded posts from non-native speakers that needed more general copyediting than merely that alone.

A few well-written posts from native speakers showed up, but not that many. Yours of course is one of the very best. :)

Well, I know people have opinions on how things should be phrased. As long as edits aren't bad and/or change my post too much I usually let them slide. Ofc I tend to look at the editor's reputation as well.

And thanks :)

I hoped my edit made it a little better.

And you’re welcome. People edit my stuff too, you know. :)

Kevin Brown

I'm sure with 1.3k posts (on ELU) that happens a lot

10:57 PM

grrr chat search is down :(

@KevinBrown Often enough. After all, you know the old saying: “Those who know more than me will correct me if I’m wrong, and those who know less than me will correct me if I’m right.” :) I do have 2,118 posts scattered here and there, so it’s hardly unheard of. Both ways. :(

Plus lettuce be honest: brainos happenses.

!!/alive

@tchrist You doubt me?

Frankly, yes. There’s a link-at-end-of-post on MSE that you missed.

It may, however, simply be a horrible post and not spam.

Your call.

11:13 PM

@tchrist api queue

oh right

!!/apicalls

user259867

No, targeted regex.

user259867

Spammers with link at end do not post such links.

user259867

Specifically, they do not use URL parameters.

user259867

11:15 PM

!!/apiquota

@NormalHuman 8633

user259867

The current regex is //[A-Za-z0-9-\.]*/?[A-Za-z0-9-]*/?</a>(?:)?\s*\s*$

I see.

user259867

Which is a bunch of things that amounts to saying: only Latin letters, digits and hyphens in path.

I saw that. :)

Well, for certain \p{ASCII} type values of Latin.

user259867

11:17 PM

The reason to narrow it down was to make it viable for Super User, which gets a lot of spam recently -- but also a lot of questions with links.

The stuff at end is kinda curious.

I’m sure it’s been refined.

user259867

SE wraps every post in tags.

ah

user259867

And, for some reason I don't know, there is \n after the last

Maybe plaintext legibility.

I do that sometimes. It’s not a big resource drain.

user259867

11:19 PM

Maybe. It's because of things like this that I've written a regex-testing script that runs regexes on the actual posts returned by the SE API.

user259867

Without that, there was a lot of puzzlement.

Now I’m curious.

user259867

What is this even... cooking.stackexchange.com/a/59728

Some poor sot who forgot that the best place for CAPS LOCK is in the bin.

user259867

Who is also an M.D., apparently

11:22 PM

oh irony

Have you ever seen a physician’s handwriting?

user259867

I didn't know it extends to typing...

user259867

They have to type in all caps in order for the text to be legible..?