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bjb568

00:00

Better?

hichris123

Ohhhh @JonChan are all of the community blogs going to switch over to the Jekyll/GH Pages format?

Dronehinge

500 low quality reviews needed

user259867

@hichris123 The ones that are not dead yet.

user259867

Which is approximately 0 of them.

user259867

/speculation

user259867

00:04

@Dronehinge It's like 3 minutes into the UTC day... can I have my coffee first?

user259867

It's low-quality, too.

hichris123

@1999 Well, some sites (like CR) wanted blogs but were told "no new blogs at the present -- we're redoing our blogs". I guess this was the redo?

user259867

And why do our reviews have to be of low quality anyway?

Jon Chan

@hichris123 we talked about it but not in the foreseeable future

user259867

@hichris123 This doesn't look like anything that would fix the problems of community blog. It's just a technical facelift.

user259867

00:06

Admittedly, the thing not being wordpress widens the integration possibilities... some time...

hichris123

@JonChan Meaning... you're going to do it in 6-8 weeks? Or you're not even sure if you're going to do it?

@1999 Also, multiple users can work on posts much easier. And you just clone & send a PR.

Shog9

Did someone here have a keyboard script for review? I was about to write one, and I realized it sounded familiar...

Doorknob

@Shog9 kind of

Shog9

oh, just close

Doorknob

The code is terrible and it's outdated and it only works for the Close Votes queue and I don't use it anymore... but, I mean, I guess

Shog9

00:11

WELL YOU ARE NO HELP

Doorknob

D:

How could you ever open doors without me?

2

Shog9

kick them

it works enough of the time

MORE OF THE TIME THAN YOUR SCRIPT DOES

Doorknob

This just in, @Shog9 abuses doors. Would you want a door-abuser as your CM? :P

Shog9

...I'm thinking the right way to go here is to intercept the loading of @balpha's keyboard shortcuts and load it manually, patching in updated shortcuts before execution.

bjb568

YAY, NOW STOP RANTING ABOUT DOORKNOB'S SCRIPT AND START RANTING ABOUT THE BORKED BLOG.

Shog9

00:14

No my problem anymore!

bjb568

you dropped a t

Shog9

Also not my problem

user259867

@Doorknob Ever heard of infrared sensors, you outdated door technology?

bjb568

@Shog9 But that one is…

user259867

They don't carry germs.

Shog9

00:16

@bjb568 nope. Clearly, it is yours.

bjb568

@1999 Yeah they do, you just don't touch it.

user259867

Don't carry them from one person to another.

bjb568

Who wants to touch somebody's doorknob, anyway?

user259867

How many of the current SE employees were moderators at some point?

user259867

I can remember 6.

Dronehinge

00:18

@Shog9 should do a Man VS Food type of thing on SO. He should try to clear the close queue pretty much by himself, could even broadcast it on yt. And we could cheer him on!

user259867

Tim Post, Anna Lear, animuson, JNat, cky, bluefeet

Shog9

@Dronehinge Not actually possible

Not for any significant length of time

figure at most 5 minutes

I mean, I could turn it off, but... That's cheating.

@1999 you missed Grace Note

hichris123

@Shog9 Was Grace Gaming?

Shog9

And Sklivvz

@hichris123 correct

And Jon Ericson

user259867

Right. I.e., mods on sites I never visit.

user259867

00:22

No central data repository of former mods info, of course.

Shog9

Technically Nicolas Chabanovsky would count too

user259867

Not really, he wasn't a moderator of an SE site.

user259867

The role was admin at hashcode, and CM here.

user259867

As far as I know.

Shog9

@1999 mmm... I could look this up, but it'd be a pain. Essentially, would look for employee status changes where an associated user were mods at the time of the status change. @jmac was looking for something like this the other day too.

user259867

00:30

Oh, jmac was a mod on Workplace.

jmac

@1999 and me. You shouldn't forget me.

James

Morning

user259867

I wouldn't dare. I would gladly forget the site, though.

user259867

Anyway, the current list is in the answer: What advantages do moderators enjoy? by 1999 on meta.stackexchange.com

Braiam

@James so... you are at +8?

James

00:34

Yes :) Well reasoned

Shog9

19

A: Stop execution of Javascript function (client side) or tweak it

Firefox now supports the beforescriptexecute event (as of Version 4, released on March 22, 2011). With that event and the // @run-at document-start directive, Firefox and Greasemonkey now seem to do a good job intercepting specific <script> tags. The checkForBadJavascripts function encapsulate...

perfect. This looks like exactly what I'm after.

Braiam

> This feature is non-standard and is not on a standards track. Do not use it on production sites facing the Web: it will not work for every user. There may also be large incompatibilities between implementations and the behavior may change in the future.

Shog9

don't care

Braiam

inb4 Shog breaks something

bjb568

wat u doin shogz? nu

James

00:42

i iz in ur stakkexkhangz beraknig ur javascrptz

user259867

A personal userscript is not a production site.

user259867

The new blog being on GitHub has pros and cons...
Pro: easier to track bugs and other issues.
Con: no rep for posting bugs.

James

y yu du diz ktti

Doorknob

@1999 called me outdated D:

user259867

and slow, too.

Doorknob

00:48

You're 16 years outdated, you hypocrite... :P

Kasra Rahjerdi

The New Stack Exchange Blog

Jon Chan on July 1, 2015

Today, we're proud to announce the new Stack Exchange blog, all shiny and new! It's been six to eight weeks in the making and we're really happy to have you all see it. Get a run down of all the new changes we've made!

hey does this onebox now

YES

Shog9

well, look at that.

@KasraRahjerdi the photo is misaligned.

Kasra Rahjerdi

@Shog9 i'm currently taking a break from drilling my tower to install a fatty new GPU in

so... /shrug

James

every tavern member starts twitching at the mis-aligned photo

Shog9

@KasraRahjerdi drilling?

Kasra Rahjerdi

00:51

@Shog9 yeah... my new card is too long to fit in my case but JUST barely, it's hitting the expansion slots (the case is ~8" thick, it has a wall set up 5.25" deep for the screws of the HDs, if I remove that the card will fit)

had to get new drill bits delivered though (thank god for Amazon Now) since I want to drill just the rivet out, not my entire life

Shog9

ah!

Dremmel + grinding bit should work too

Kasra Rahjerdi

yep, that's my next step if the drill I have is too big to fit in the small space I have

or you know, just spend $100 on a new case

but this way is more fun!

Shog9

yeah, no vacuuming up metal shavings with plan B, clearly inferior

Lynn Crumbling

sd tpu-

sd gone

bjb568

What other kind of shavings are there besides totally metal ones? Facial hair is made out of aluminium right?

user259867

01:04

Wasn't Marc Gravell an ~~appointed~~ elected SO mod before the "first" election, or am I imagining it? Can't find a source.

user259867

Yes he was: blog.stackexchange.com/2009/05/welcome-new-community-moderators

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Male Muscle Exercise Prolargentsize by Bella Brian on askubuntu.com

James

sd tpu-

AstroCB

@JanDvorak Now i want one of those.

@Shog9 Now that sounds familiar.

Mar 19 at 2:48, by Shog9

cool. Share if you get something figured out; I could use it...

Mar 19 at 2:50, by AstroCB

@Shog9 This sketchily replicates the actual shortcut functionality with the extra keys, but it doesn't add it to the menu or anything.

^ That's as far as I ever got.

SmokeDetector

01:19

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: number of home on into the body by SaiKhan on askubuntu.com

AstroCB

Why would someone wants to be a moderator other than hired? You gain reputations by asking and answering questions, it is also a great way of learning and self-learning process. What are the benefits for the moderators? — Pangloss 2 hours ago

James

sd tpu-

user259867

Bug fixed in 30 minutes. But no rep either for me or for Kasra.

Braiam

@1999 stars bug report... so 1999 isn't sad

user259867

You can star those?

Braiam

01:26

nope, just follow

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: How To Increas Stamina And Energy by kelly ours on meta.stackexchange.com

James

sd tpu-

I wonder if these things actually work

hichris123

@KasraRahjerdi Your fault? 'cause there's a meta post with meta EXP waiting: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/259875/…

Shog9

@1999 you know there's nothing actually stopping you from posting these on MSE....

Braiam

finally... no more WP madness

Shog9

01:34

shhh! It'll hear you....

Kasra Rahjerdi

@hichris123 yay!

user259867

Github looks like it's better for tracking, though.

user259867

Just needs rep system added to it, is all.

bjb568

yeah, cuz that worked so well on SO…

melikes it like it is

user259867

timehop Six years ago, Hilarious Comedy Pesto won the internet.

user259867

01:37

Naturally, this is now featured as their top network post.

Braiam

01:48

Google Drive is down... and up again

user259867

02:03

Anyone tried Chrome Secure Shell?

Doorknob

interesting...

user259867

(Looks like it's my best bet for accessing EC2 from a Chromebook, except the part with keys is kind of complicated)

Yi Jiang

@Shog9 Might want to look at this github.com/StackExchange/blog/blob/master/disqus_import.py#L7

Doorknob

maybe you shouldn't post that in a public chatroom...

Shog9

uh...

I will calmly freak out to the proper authorities.

Doorknob

02:09

> calmly freak out

Braiam

git blame blog/disqus_import.py | grep secret... umm. yeah

Yi Jiang

@Doorknob Well this is the fastest way to get someone's attention, and this is a SE hosted chatroom, so I don't think anyone here will try to hack the blog's comments :P

I hope

Doorknob

glances at nicael

Braiam

glances at stuff

hichris123

@Undo So here's an idea: why don't we make an API request to get the last <x> SO questions recently modified every time we make a request for SO instead of just getting the ones identified by ids x, y, z, a, & b?

Braiam

02:13

@1999 that seems cool... (cool being 'I've been in need of that')

user259867

I'm still puzzled by this part:

user259867

> If you have a key stored in a single ".pem" file, you must split it into two files before importing.

user259867

This article explains how it's supposed to work

user259867

However, the .pem file I have from Amazon is just the private key. Not much to split there.

user259867

Maybe I should copy-paste the .pem file here, since we don't keep secrets nowadays...

Braiam

02:16

they seems to assume that you have the public and private keys in a single pem file

you only need the private one

user259867

Ah, that makes it easy. Thanks.

Braiam

> it is a common task to split a single pem file to a number of pem files,

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: For somebody younger starting off even know by Beth Lewis on drupal.stackexchange.com

James

sd tpu-

Undo

@hichris123 That makes a lot more sense than what we're doing

it'd bump bandwidth up a little bit, but meh

@SmokeDetector gone

SmokeDetector

02:31

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: DJ the truth surveillance video from by Usman Dil019 on superuser.com

Undo

sd tpu-

James

has it changed?

Yes it has

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: o know that sound well it mean she’s by Mary Dailey on drupal.stackexchange.com

hichris123

@Undo Although the added processing time... I dunno. I'll play around with the idea. also should probably cc @ProgramFOX.

SmokeDetector

02:49

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Drugs to increase muscle mass by Bruce Walker on drupal.stackexchange.com

user259867

03:02

If processing time is a concern, consider getting just <x> most recently active posts instead of <x> questions with all of their answers. Old answers on a question with recent activity rarely yield anything worth flagging.

hichris123

@1999 Well, I'm not sure how slow/fast Smokey is at processing a post. It might be fast, it might not.

Tiny Giant

03:17

meta.stackoverflow.com/q/298376/4639281 The user also seems to have some bad reviewing practices.... stackoverflow.com/users/1815321/… What do you guys think?

Looking at the reviews, it doesn't even seem to matter. Most of them were reviewed by other users with the same bad practices. Those triage button text really needs to change. What a waste of time and energy.

Undo

03:51

@hichris123 Processing time on JSON, then running regexes should be fairly low

I'll test it

@hichris123 Quick (and probably totally incorrect) benchmarking says it takes ~0.02s to run a post through the regexes.

And that's on my 2003 closet-server-laptop

although that's only the titles

user259867

Question body + all answers would take quite a bit longer, I suppose.

Undo

probably, I'm going to check those next

user259867

/info says SO gets about 7 posts per minute, which seems low... quiet time of the day. More like 20 posts per minute normally, I guess.

James

Quiet this morning

Undo

SmokeDetector

04:06

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: Longevity on you know not only does affect by mattie spring on superuser.com

Undo

So it took 0.3s to process a question with four answers.

although this is all over.

We could probably afford to just shove them off into a thread on their own

We haven't had a 100% CPU event in weeks

~5% on the closet server right now, and it's drastically underpowered compared to whatever else might run Smokey

James

sd tpu-

user259867

If API is used in this way, one doesn't really need websockets... just request active posts since the last request ("min" parameter of /posts). A simple algorithm just for SO... which would justify having another API key, I think...

Santa Claus

0.3s seems like a while

Undo

@SantaClaus Remember this is on a machine that really shouldn't be alive anymore

I'd expect far lower numbers on EC2.

Heck, let's try it

Santa Claus

04:12

How old is this closet server?

Undo

like ancient

Santa Claus

Oh 2003 never mind

Undo

2001 probably

and it's a laptop

Santa Claus

You said already

Undo

not high-end for its time either

compaq nc6220

Santa Claus

04:13

What OS?

Undo

Ubuntu

Server

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@Undo Undo's EC2

Undo

okay here we go

user259867

SU spam still at -4

Undo

.03s for a three-answer question just now

Santa Claus

04:17

Much better

Undo

Also, it's running at nice -n 19. So that isn't helping any.

.1 for a five-answer

Actually, I think JSON parsing might be taking far too long. I'll look in the morning

.05 for two answers

And sleep time. Night all.

user259867

SU spam gone.

jadarnel27

"...and vice versus."

SmokeDetector

04:36

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: LED to dim when connected to digital pin? by Hayden Westfall on arduino.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: Skin Tension During The Holidays by vickeipnti clark on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Why do I recommend CogniQ Reviews? by Tony juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com

user259867

04:53

blacklist candidate prinenidz.com , apparently, new site

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Cost Free Activity To Perform In Time That Is Free by jonatho oneal on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

05:05

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: A farmer buys a used tractor for Rs 12000. He pays Rs 6000 cash and agrees to pay the balance in annual.... by Nancy Leonard on math.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: On those occasions when you do splurge and eat out by Frederick Pica on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Am able to log in via ssh but not able to use scp in ubuntu 14.04 reinstall. Suggestions? by Suche_G on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Make sure to give yourself a variety of different by Frederick Pica on drupal.stackexchange.com

user259867

blacklist candidate supplements4help from the missed post below (clever title, too)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: New Html5 Cross-platform Game Fruity by user49219 on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Try keeping track of the foods you eat that make by Frederick Pica on superuser.com

bummi

!!/report superuser.com/q/935318/172747

SmokeDetector

05:16

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: how to play Game Review Of Family Game Night by Steven I. Chavis on superuser.com

bummi

blacklist candidate prinenidz.com

user259867

Good, now we have solid evidence that it needs to be blacklisted. (second occurrence today)

Dronehinge

sd 4tpu-

!!/report bing.com

SmokeDetector

@Dronehinge That does not look like a valid post URL.

Dronehinge

!!/report google.com/#q=post+1999

SmokeDetector

05:27

@Dronehinge That does not look like a valid post URL.

bummi

!!/report superuser.com/q/935322/172747

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: How to Hack the game easily and enjoy? by Cody Bishop on superuser.com

user259867

blacklist candidate maddenmobilehack

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31175971/1864610 - it never ceases to amze me, the bizarre justifications people dream up for posting on SO

Tiny Giant

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31174842/4639281 (simple error, see comments on question)

SmokeDetector

05:40

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: This aging process can be accelerated due to smoking cigarettes or using tanning beds on a regular by azzyjacson on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Methods For Getting A Six Pack Fast by Iciv Bygo on askubuntu.com

Jan Dvorak

I think you can buy them easily in stores

SouravGhosh

Good Morning Folks !!!

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31176254/2173917

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31176507/2173917

Jan Dvorak

05:58

wow. At first it looked more like gibberish than a homework dump.

SouravGhosh

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31176614/2173917

third one in a row

:(

Tiny Giant

06:17

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31176592/4639281

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: I am talking about can provides by Sherri Ansari on drupal.stackexchange.com

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 That sounds like a good idea.

bummi

!!/report drupal.stackexchange.com/q/164015/20140

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: This is a truly electric swing by welaid on drupal.stackexchange.com

bummi

!!/report drupal.stackexchange.com/a/164014/20140

SmokeDetector

06:31

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How to add a background image wallpaper to a drupal site from within the drupal admin? by joynal on drupal.stackexchange.com

bummi

blacklist candidate cool-hdwallpapers.com

Jan Dvorak

nice frog though

Tiny Giant

The H&I queue is ~~completely useless~~ very misused.

Andrew T.

spam http://superuser.com/questions/933807/dell-drivers-for-inspiron-n4050/935272#935272
spam http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/112953/how-can-i-recover-deleted-whatsapp-images-on-android-s2/114043#114043
spam http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/113627/windows-wont-recognise-android-device/114044#114044
(all by same user)

SmokeDetector

06:47

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: Seven Fruits Will Make Your Skin Layer Beauty by almy walter on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

!!/report superuser.com/q/935343/172747

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: To Learning To Be A Gaming Tester, 3 Excellent Tips by Ruth C. Pipkin on superuser.com

James

sd gone

Andrew T.

07:04

uhh... the new SE Blog was being comment-spam? blog.stackexchange.com/2015/07/the-new-stack-exchange-blog/…

SouravGhosh

@AndrewT. yeah, you're right...

bummi

someone tripped over spam with process.st ?

UniKitty

07:29

@SPArchaeologist No I won't be

James

@SPArchaeologist, I changed my avatar but kept to a pony theme

ProgramFOX

sd fp-

UniKitty

in Sugarcube Corner, 37 secs ago, by UniKitty

Unicorns are yummy

Ponies are unicorns

James

@UniKitty Grant me teh talkies power

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: I feel within the past on the FIFA soccer players by memorygame on gaming.stackexchange.com

James

07:36

sd tpu-

UniKitty

@SmokeDetector Someone flag

@James I can't

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/781/…

James

gasp

UniKitty

See owners

James

Fair enough

UniKitty

We must wait ~7 hours for @SPArchaeologist to come along

James

07:37

He usually arrives around now

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body: Build Memory Recall? by viliaravi on drupal.stackexchange.com

UniKitty

Really?

@SmokeDetector Stupid lag. No flag dialog open :(

James

I usually cross paths with him before I go home

UniKitty

@James You guys work together?

James

No

UniKitty

07:40

Then?

James

Like cross paths in the tavern

UniKitty

Ok

SouravGhosh

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31178504/2173917

UniKitty

@SouravGhosh Done

SouravGhosh

@UniKitty TY

UniKitty

07:52

Eeek chat notifications are messed up

Too add on to what @SouravGhosh said, this is not a place where we don't put in effort and demand answers. Put in some effort, and we will put in effort to help — UniKitty 1 min ago

SPArchaeologist

@UniKitty chat notification are strange indeed.

UniKitty

It sometimes brings me to the wrong room

SPArchaeologist

Sometime I get notification only for messages sent to me while I don't have the room open. Sometime I get notifications for every message.

UniKitty

It seems to send them even when no chat window is open

SPArchaeologist

08:06

@UniKitty I guess the idea was that. If you have chat open, no notification on the main site breadcrumb since they assume you will see it directly in the chat.

UniKitty

but it causes bugs and weirdness

SPArchaeologist

I know.

UniKitty

could be a few rooms sending a notification at the same time?

SPArchaeologist

probably

you should ask @ShadowWizard.

usually he knows about this kind of settings.

UniKitty

He might be having lunch now

Its like noon at Israel

SouravGhosh

08:16

@UniKitty what happened with the notification?

UniKitty

Sometimes when I click it from this room it goes to another room

Sometimes it comes here

ProgramFOX

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/questions/259895/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Increase the fullness and hardness of your erections by Velnet Tresnar on meta.stackexchange.com

James

sd tpu-

UniKitty

Thats the most sick ad I've seen in my life

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

08:23

@UniKitty It's 1999's fault.

UniKitty

I need coffee

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@UniKitty brews coffee for @UniKitty

UniKitty

And ice cream

!!/lick

SmokeDetector

@UniKitty licks ice cream cone

UniKitty

!!/unicorn

rene

08:31

Hi @UniKitty, having fun?

UniKitty

Ha. Notification opened sugarcube

@rene Yep

rene

Does anybody know if a tag is blacklisted if it is also removed from the posthistory table for type 3 or 6 rows?

UniKitty

@rene Where

data explorer?

rene

yeah

UniKitty

dunno

status-unknown

status-dontcare

Shadow Wizard

08:42

@UniKitty it was 11 AM when you posted it... still morning ;)

UniKitty

:(

but we have lunch at 11

Shadow Wizard

Lunch is around 1 PM

UniKitty

school has its benefits

Shadow Wizard

7 AM - breakfast
10 AM - sandwich
1 PM - lunch

no school here D:

@UniKitty sure. The script is quite simple: if you fail to "dismiss" a message directed for you (aka ping) in a room where you're still "ping-able", after 15 minutes it becomes a notification in your inbox.

So if people ping you in the same time in several rooms, you'll get several notifications from different rooms.

UniKitty

Not inbox

@UniKitty this

Shadow Wizard

08:46

so what you mean?

UniKitty

Shadow Wizard

just the ping noise?

UniKitty

whhops

reply to me

@UniKitty nevermind i do it myself

Shadow Wizard

reply to you? how is this a notification?

UniKitty

this one

Shadow Wizard

08:48

huh? no idea what this is.

Maybe desktop notifications? Never enabled it myself

UniKitty

at every message there's a enter button when you mouse over it

yep desktop notifications

Shadow Wizard

oh, so this one I've no idea about. Ask @Bart. I think. :D

UniKitty

I'm being told be everyone to ask everyone

Shadow Wizard

well, eventually you might get an answer ;)

UniKitty

for i = 1, 100, 1 do post.migrate(stackexchange.getRandomSite()) end

@UniKitty reply

rene

08:56

@ShadowWizard are you a VB6 user? Can you checkout this

I've changed my regional settings to Ararbic and back to normal but IE is still confused...

UniKitty

Promoting your own answer on chat?

rene

If it is seen as that feel free to take action

UniKitty

Hey @PatrickHofman

Patrick Hofman

@UniKitty hey

UniKitty

@rene I won't

@PatrickHofman hey again

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