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hichris123

19:02

I can't find any decent book cataloging software that's free... so I might have to end up making it myself. sigh

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector tpu

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@cybermonkey Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector tpu

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@cybermonkey Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

cybermonkey

one more time, getting screenshots..

@SmokeDetector tp

SmokeDetector

19:05

@cybermonkey Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

user259867

Cryptography will be the 3rd site to hold mod election while in beta.

cybermonkey

0

Q: Automatically dismiss a chat message on clicking the notification

When I receive a reply/tag on chat, the 'notification bubble' must be clicked in order to dismiss the message: I have desktop notifications enabled, but however clicking the notification to go to the chat message does not dismiss it (from both within the same tab/window, and from other browser...

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Can I find out why an aircraft squawked an emergency code (7x00)? by Timbo on aviation.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Jason C

19:23

@Hosch250 Huh. I blocked feeds a while ago and have never seen any popups or anything since. I just assumed it was related. But maybe there's some other unrelated variable. Oh well.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Authentication problem using connectify by Priyam Surai on android.stackexchange.com

hichris123

@SmokeDetector ignore- but new NAA

@SmokeDetector gone

hichris123

19:39

@SmokeDetector gone

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[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: How can we help students who are very anxious about math? by Allen Seay on matheducators.stackexchange.com

user259867

> I find myself missing someone named Taryn, and someone named Juan, and they haven't even started yet. I am fortunate to work with brilliance -- Tim Post at 11:30 AM - 4 Jun 2015 via Twitter

ᔕᖺᘎᕊ

(reject: meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/39448)

user259867

I know Taryn = bluefeet, but who is Juan?

user259867

> Just left the office. This chapter has closed. On to new exciting things. -- Bluefeet at 11:45 AM - 4 Jun 2015 via Twitter

user259867

19:44

I guess Juan is the new CM who will oversee SO in Spanish

user259867

checks sp.stackoverflow.com aww, still in Memphis

hichris123

@HomegrownTomato I thought her name was bluefeet. :P

Lynn Crumbling

NAA android.stackexchange.com/a/111480/17789

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[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: !!!!@@@@####$$% “1-855-709-2847”[[[[[[]]]]]]] Epson printer support toll free number by schin Kasana on stackoverflow.com

user259867

Sometimes these are pretty long; I'd like to open near the flag dialog. So far, the best I found is this link format: http://meta.stackexchange.com/q/257614#link-post-257614 e.g., meta.stackexchange.com/q/257614#link-post-257614

Lynn Crumbling

19:49

@SmokeDetector tpu

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@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

user259867

Unfortunately, then I get no part of the post shown...

cybermonkey

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[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Apache Spark: Applying a function from sklearn parallel on partitions by NormallySane on stackoverflow.com

hichris123

20:12

Huh, HTTP/2 disallows gzip. tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-9.2.1

When HTTP/2 becomes widely adopted, I hope things will get easier.

rene

20:25

That was also the promise of SOAP...

hichris123

@rene How much was SOAP actually used though?

rene

in a lot of B2B interfaces

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: [<`>](1 .855 .709 .2847)-Brother printer tech support-Brother printer tech support number-Brother printer tech support number- by mdsaif fraz on stackoverflow.com

rene

Tibco, Websphere, IBM that kind of players

MS BizTalk

user259867

spam stackoverflow.com/questions/30653459/…

SmokeDetector

20:32

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FIND AN INNER PRODUCT by Tom Builder on math.stackexchange.com

Undo

ProTip: If you're tired of reading all the terrible English on SO, go to ru.SO and turn on Chrome's page translation thing. The English is literally better.

hichris123

@rene that sounds... ~~great~~ horrible.

rene

yeah, that is correct

hichris123

... spam? stackoverflow.com/questions/30653570/need-some-help-on-git-hub

rene

It does disclose...

downvote?

Braiam

20:36

@hichris123 it disallows TLS compression since the underlying HTTP is already compressed

hichris123

@Braiam right.

user259867

@SmokeDetector edited

hichris123

@rene + close I guess.

rene

seeing the comments...

a spam flag will do, I get mellow these days

user259867

Why did Mike Pennington quit as a moderator? Chronicles of Network Engineering

user259867

20:39

I spam-flagged. Since there is a 100 rep penalty built-in, I conclude that spam flags are not restricted to the situations in which the account would be destroyed.

Undo

Spam flags never destroy accounts

Braiam

several spam flags on an account should rise an auto flag

user259867

I know.

Undo

If a user's first post is community spam-flag nuked, it should raise an autoflag.

Actually, any time anything is community nuked it should raise an autoflag, dismissed when someone destroys the user.

user259867

In other news, NE election has 4 candidates now... while Blender is down to 3 (from 5 they had earlier).

hichris123

20:43

@Undo should != does

sadly.

Undo

I try to go through deleted posts every morning, hoping to catch them.

user259867

Has anyone here won the lottery to get the new moving vote buttons on SO?

Undo

what?

user259867

Another term for A/B testing - will roll it out to half of registered users to see how it affects their voting behavior. — Jarrod Dixon ♦ 2 hours ago

Braiam

anyone using Firefox on XFCE to verify something?

hichris123

20:45

@HomegrownTomato nope

@Braiam nope

user259867

me neither

Undo

I'm not on it, apparently

Oh wait, yeah I am

Seeing it on SO

user259867

Yes, it's only on SO.

Undo

I like

Braiam

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/q/257918/213575

and meta has a hardware tag, wtf?

user259867

20:48

Sure, because people keep asking about SE hardware.

Braiam

nope, I'm not

@HomegrownTomato they are actually asking where in SE ask about hardware...

cybermonkey

21:06

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Q: Automatically dismiss a chat message on clicking the notification

When I receive a reply/tag on chat, the 'notification bubble' must be clicked in order to dismiss the message: I have desktop notifications enabled, but however clicking the notification to go to the chat message does not dismiss it (from both within the same tab/window, and from other browser...

feature-request chat notifications desktop-notifications

user259867

@TravisJ We don't currently do as good of a job as I'd like when it comes to analyzing stuff as we block it. I've been opposed to regex blocks because they're so easy to get around. Learning more, on the other hand .. I have some ideas. — Tim Post ♦ 2 hours ago

hichris123

Speaking of spam... we never got our spam dump.

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Q: Would anyone care for some processed meat-like substance with a gelatinous glaze?

Something sort of magic happened a short time ago, sometimes a graph is worth a thousand flags: That's right, around March 28, the spam protection layer blocked about 20,000 spam attempts, mostly in the form of suggested edits, while users didn't see much of an increase in what they had to fl...

discussion spam-prevention

Braiam

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/30653741/…

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/30654106/…

Same user we saw on Meta.

Undo

voted

SmokeDetector

21:30

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Replacing mapfragment by a different fragment by Vugi on stackoverflow.com

hichris123

@SmokeDetector gone

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector wall-o-text.

@SmokeDetector Matched on "As you can see i have some buttons and shits over my map"

Is that a typo? If so, what word did they mean?

Or is it just not pluralized correctly?

hichris123

@SmokeDetector gone

Lynn Crumbling

Yay! Marshal!

user259867

Could you reduce this to a [mcve]? — Braiam 7 mins ago

user259867

21:39

Yeah... that's not a magic word. :(

Lynn Crumbling

@HomegrownTomato [FEATURE-REQUEST]

Ha

OP wants to add more content (to the question).

Well, all i can add is the fragment manager (in selectItem) commits and the framelayout(id: frame_container) ,which i thought would replace the previous children(and contents) , actually displays the new content over the map..which shouldn't happen....thanks for the fast reply — Vugi 48 secs ago

user259867

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Q: Add magic link for MCVE

Perhaps [help/mcve] (which would link to /help/mcve on sites that have it), it comes up a lot on SO. Ideally the autotext would be "MCVE" so a sample usage would be: It's not clear from your question quite where the problem might be, can you create an [mcve]? which would render as (on SO): ...

feature-request magic-links

Lynn Crumbling

+1

user259867

Stack Exchange is a great place. Everything you could possibly want has already been requested.

2

Lynn Crumbling

:)

Well, except a "Make Coffee" button with a callback to my local coffee machine.

HTML8 Perhaps?

SmokeDetector

21:47

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, phone number detected: ???/////// 1-855-709-2847”/////////Brother printer technical support number by dhvaj gujar on meta.stackexchange.com

rene

@SmokeDetector tpu-

And @spammers I need sleep so please stop posting spam for another 8 hours...

hichris123

Night rene!

Don't let the spammers bite!

Newsflash: even Shog asked bad NPR questions:

Sep 2 '10 at 21:57, by Shog9

0

Q: What time of day do you prefer to shower?

Well, I'm sure we all know the stereotype: as a programmer, you sit near-motionless at a desk for 23 hours a day, covered in cheetos dust and bed sores, until exhaustion overtakes you and you fall to the floor and briefly sleep (wherein "sleep" consists of convulsing while sweating out Mountain D...

habits stereotypes hygiene

bjb568

@hichris123 Screenshot?

Why does @AnnaLear look like a zombie?

Anna Lear

because of reasons

bjb568

ok

reasons are best reason

user259867

22:06

23 hours ago, by Homegrown Tomato

Um.... is Anna Lear sending a message with the new avatar? (I'm just not sure what it is)

Shog9

@hichris123 even?? Clearly you are unfamiliar with my history on Programmers.

user259867

@hichris123 404

Shog9

> I really, really want this to be the SE "black sheep". Because like it or not, there's always a black sheep. It's a necessity. Look at all the forum systems that have a "lounge" or "soapbox" or "battlefront" set up for this very purpose: to relieve the pressure placed on the system by all the (overly-) enthusiastic users who would otherwise treat it like their personal playground.

Anna Lear

@Shog9 Ahhhh that takes me back to a simpler, more dramatic time.

Shog9

dramatic, definitely

user259867

22:11

The OP of the question is deleted, but has a gravatar. Ah, that's their custom anonymous image thing. cdn.sstatic.net/programmersmeta/img/sprites.png?v=f8db877021b2

cybermonkey

Now for something creepy:

user259867

There's no creepiness that Ctrl-Shift-I and Del can't fix.

cybermonkey

@HomegrownTomato seen meta.stackexchange.com/questions/257912/…?

hichris123

@Shog9 Clearly I wasn't here during the good ole' days of Programmers.

Shog9

shame on you

Also, OLE was never good. It was, perhaps, better than the alternatives for a time.

hichris123

22:17

@Shog9 merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ole

books.google.com/ngrams/…

Shog9

Object Linking and Embedding

Object Linking and Embedding (OLE, sometimes pronounced /oˈlɛj/) is a proprietary technology developed by Microsoft that allows embedding and linking to documents and other objects. For developers, it brought OLE Control Extension (OCX), a way to develop and use custom user interface elements. On a technical level, an OLE object is any object that implements the IOleObject interface, possibly along with a wide range of other interfaces, depending on the object's needs. == Overview == OLE allows an editing application to export part of a document to another editing application and then import it...

Mine oneboxes. Therefore, it is correct.

hichris123

ole

Interjection: ole

An interjection used to stir up excitement.

Adjective: ole (not comparable)

Eye dialect spelling of old.

Verb: ole

Indicative present connegative form of olla.
(minä) en ole / (me) emme ole
Second-person singular imperative present form of olla.
Ole!
Second-person singular imperative present connegative form of olla.

(2 more not shown…)

not... quite.

But ole!

Shog9

"eye dialect"?

Eye dialect

Eye dialect is the use of nonstandard spelling for speech to draw attention to an ironically standard pronunciation. The term was coined by George P. Krapp to refer to the literary technique of using nonstandard spelling that implies a pronunciation of the given word that is actually standard, such as wimmin for women; the spelling indicates that the character's speech overall is dialectal, foreign, or uneducated. This form of nonstandard spelling differs from others in that a difference in spelling does not indicate a difference in pronunciation of a word. That is, it is dialect to the eye rather...

hichris123

It's where your eyes dilate in order to compensate for accents.

cybermonkey

@RSahu The fact the SE engine needs a pretty fast system to run- I know that the SO database server (only runs SQL Server 2012, I think) alone has 192GB RAM and 24 cores, and that doesn't even factor in the web server (SO has an entire database server all to itself, the other SE sites share the others). Would a business really be willing to splash out the money for the hardware & maintenance cost? Then we come to the licencing of the SE engine, which if the SE team wanted to, would cost a huge amount of money. — cybermonkey 2 mins ago

Shog9

22:28

Not to mention a full-time staff dedicated to maintaining it.

cybermonkey

@Shog9 yep

Shog9

In theory, you can license the SO engine (a very old version of it, at least). In practice, you're expected to pay a portion of someone's salary in advance as a not-too-subtle hint that you should probably just pay someone on-staff to customize an open source solution for your needs.

bjb568

@HomegrownTomato command shift i… ^

damn it more PII

user259867

@bjb568 It was a plot to get you do this.

bjb568

user259867

22:32

Fun fact: SE about/team page now lists 208 people with 65 distinct job titles.

Shog9

clearly needs more job titles

bjb568

Of course we couldn't – FSM forbid – have multiple people doing the same thing now…

Shog9

what, and be all redundant?

bjb568

Yeah, then you'd start finding that a task needs only 42 people and there's 43 people working on it!

Anna Lear

@Shog9 saw "eye rhymes" as the answer to an NYT crossword clue last week... the clue was "four-hour tour features?". good times.

bjb568

22:35

brb writing complaint on meta about lack of CSS vote stickying

cybermonkey

@Shog9 When I ran gameservers with my old server software, I only licensed the software out to three other servers. My software was pretty powerful, and due to how the server processed packets it even had an anti-DDoS function that was very effective. The problem with licencing is that the more people who have your software, the higher the risk of a leak.

bjb568

meta.stackexchange.com/… what's this tag for?

user259867

Non-unique SE job titles:
Careers Sales 73
Developer 29
Team Lead, Careers Sales 12
Community Manager 9
Senior Product Designer 5
Ad Sales 4
Internal Support Engineer 4
Site Reliability Engineer 4
Office Manager 3
Recruiter 3
Strategic Account Manager 3
Campaign Manager 2
Engineering Manager 2
Marketing Coordinator 2
Regional Sales Director 2
Regional Sales Manager 2

Shog9

Clearly, we need a lot more Senior Product Designers too.

user259867

But none of those non-senior ones.

user259867

22:37

The page is not completely up to date: e.g., doesn't include the two Operation Specialists.

Shog9

who wants a product designed by a young'un?

user259867

@bjb568 ^

cybermonkey

It was pretty amusing at one time, when a rival server owner got annoyed I was taking all his players (in reality, players preferred my server as it was stable, had no cheaters [my anticheat software, naturally]), he got so annoyed that he tried to crash my server. My software ended up rebounding the packets so that he ended up DoS'ing himself..

bjb568

@Shog9 DD users!

Shog9

s/s/

@cybermonkey ha!

@bjb568 it's for questions about thingamabobs

bjb568

22:40

@Shog9 close your regex!

user259867

@bjb568 Of course, the link doesn't work for those without new nav (I signed up for testing initially, but then quit in disgust).

cybermonkey

@Shog9 The funniest occasion was when this guy came into the server, and said 'I'm going to crash this server'. Five seconds later; 'xxx has been banned for: crashhack'. Wasn't even my software I was running at the time.

bjb568

0

Q: Sticky votes needs CSS position sticky

When scrolling, .vote.js-vote-sticky gets to be .is-stuck. But that's laggy because it's triggered by JS! :o It should have position: sticky. It's unacceptable to use a slower, inferior JS technique when there's a CSS alternative.

feature-request design

cybermonkey

22:56

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@cybermonkey Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: ~`~~!!!!!/////// “1-855-709-2847”}}}}}}}}} Canon printer driver support number by dhvaj gujar on meta.stackexchange.com

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@cybermonkey Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

cybermonkey

@SmokeDetector gone

SmokeDetector

23:13

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: ~~!!!!!! “1-855-709-2847” ///////// Canon printer toll free number Canon printer customer care toll free number by nitin kasana on meta.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@KevinBrown Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PLEASE HELP! URGENT MATH QUESTION by joe biden on math.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected, repeating characters in title: ((((((((((((“1-855-709-2847”)))))))))))))))Canon printer support toll free number by nitin kasana on meta.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector tpu-

@SmokeDetector gone

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: ~!@#$$%%^&* (((“1-855-709-2847”))””{{}{“”::Canon printer tech support Canon printer tech support number by nitin kasana on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: If I type in any commands, I get an error by Erik on gaming.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

23:31

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@KevinBrown Blacklisted user.

user259867

I finally got timestamp conversion right... which at the end was ridiculously simple, just telling Google Spreadsheet to format it as "H", no AM/PM garbage. This, plus Unique and CountIf, make for some nice charts.

user259867

Picked the "smooth curve" option to demonstrate the sad reality: positivity-preserving smooth interpolation is hard.

bjb568

eww

take the logs or something?

it wouldn't like a 0, but maybe you can do f(x) = ln(x+1) then invert it after smoothing

user259867

23:38

That's good thinking, but consider that the domain of inverse function will be the range of f, and interpolated values may dip below that.

user259867

For example: your f(x)=ln(x+1) has inverse g(y)=e^y - 1. If y is negative, g(y) is negative, and we're back to the problem.

bjb568

meeeh

user259867

One can take square root, interpolate, and then square the result. But this is ugly too, because the curve will bounce up at some places, where the data is actually zero.

bjb568

cube root?

It's all a mess.

user259867

That doesn't make things positive.

bjb568

23:42

take the secant or something?

Wait, the reversing function doesn't need to be the inverse…

user259867

Then you're not interpolating the data.

user259867

As I said, this is hard. No simple recipe that works universally well. People who need positive data in their computations (i.e., they model some physical quantity that can't be negative in principle) have to sweat over it to make their numerical method work.

bjb568

23:55

Is Gravity An Illusion? | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios

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This is a pretty good explanation.

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