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Patrick Hofman

07:05

cv-pls dup stackoverflow.com/questions/29741193/…

Andrew T.

err, gold badger answered the question, got downvoted, and dupe-hammered it :O

J. Steen

Three camps on SO - those who despise answers on low quality/dupe questions; those who will upvote anything and everything; those who don't care.

And while I'm at it:

Morning!

bummi

Morning!

Qantas 94 Heavy

Morning!

Andrew T.

Morning!

SilentKiller

07:17

Morning!

SPArchaeologist

Morning!

Unihedro

Morning!

J. Steen

I'm a bad person. I only have two constituent badges.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Pre-Calc Trigonometry, multiple angle question by cheezit on math.stackexchange.com

J. Steen

Seriously. What is this shit? stackoverflow.com/a/29741286/64976

Patrick Hofman

07:33

@J.Steen Got one delete vote already :)

J. Steen

That's the third user I've seen quoting some lab, and a requirement to make low quality posts on SO.

I'd be very happy to be face to face with that "teacher" and talk a bit about responsibility.

Patrick Hofman

@J.Steen Or the teacher did his work and the kids just don't listen ;)

J. Steen

@PatrickHofman Pretty sure "lurk for a month, read the tour pages and help pages, look at the meta" isn't part of the course material.

Patrick Hofman

@J.Steen Well, often when companies outsource their dev 'support' to SO they don't. And they could be considered 'professionals'.

J. Steen

@PatrickHofman Only by themselves.

@PatrickHofman very black and white today

Unforgiving. That's my new motto.

Until I have more coffee.

Patrick Hofman

07:40

@J.Steen They are still cleaning the coffee maker :( Unforgiving is my motto too for now.

Jason C

@J.Steen Three different users? Or that same user three times? He had two other answers, identical, within the past hour (at least one is deleted from flags now)

Jan Dvorak

Someone should talk to the teacher...

Jason C

Plot twist: test_user is the professor.

Shadow Wizard

Hey guys/girls/others is this not reviewable to you too? meta.stackexchange.com/review/reopen/38744

J. Steen

@JasonC Three different users.

Jason C

07:50

I can review it

Shadow Wizard

I voted to close, but should be able to reopen, so not sure why it's not reviewable for me :(

Jan Dvorak

Am I right to suspect that the asker is guilty of this shenanigans too?

Unihedro

171

Q: Distinguish close votes by reason

Even though a question may be closed by receiving 5 close votes, the votes do not necessarily need to agree. I think this is a good behavior, but recently I voted to close a question for being an exact duplicate (which it was) and found the question was closed as "not a real question". This is ...

Five years later...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Attempted Magento Backup - now throws 500 Internal server error page by a deleted user on magento.stackexchange.com

Patrick Hofman

VLQ meta.stackexchange.com/q/253916/245360

SmokeDetector

07:58

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Toroidal transformers by Toroidal Transformer Grewin on electronics.stackexchange.com

Qantas 94 Heavy

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Qantas94Heavy Blacklisted user.

Andrew T.

Hope Google Translate did its best.

Patrick Hofman

@AndrewT. Yes. If you wanted to order nasi goreng ;)

Andrew T.

lol :)

@Qantas94Heavy added simplified Chinese.

Jason C

08:04

He should have named himself Toroidal Transformer Timmy or something.

Thomas the Toroidal Transformer

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Clash of clans cheats or hack? by Vincent Ferror on history.stackexchange.com

Unihedro

> 堆棧交易所

Jan Dvorak

O_O there is a font called "Annie Use Your Telescope"

Unihedro

Warehouse trademarket.

Andrew T.

Google Translate hates Stack Exchange (my fault!)

SPArchaeologist

08:10

@Unihedro He posted Stack Exchange in a language != en-US! FLAGGGG!!!!!! (this message is offered to you by the Anti-fun committee. Working on Tavern since 1990')

Unihedro

@AndrewT. Google Translate sucks -_-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Clash of clans cheats or hack? by Vincent Ferror on martialarts.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

@SPArchaeologist since 1990?

Andrew T.

muay-thai oh god...

Unihedro

Also, the question isn't really spam. It's just off topic. It's asking for original papers.

Jan Dvorak

08:12

Should I tell the CoC spammer that he's missing the link?

Jason C

... good night

PeterJ

spam: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/253919/…

Jan Dvorak

proposed keyword: body mass

Andrew T.

@Unihedro At least I flagged as VLQ

Jan Dvorak

proposed keyword: improved.*body

Unihedro

08:14

cool

Jason C

all spam: stackexchange.com/users/5933495/vincent-ferror?tab=activity

J. Steen

Got me four new accounts.

Jason C

spam sports.stackexchange.com/a/9157/9168

SPArchaeologist

@JanDvorak year chosen at random. Actually I later wanted to change it to '87 (the bite of the '87) but timer was already off.

Unihedro

So who caused the bite of '87??

Jan Dvorak

08:25

Me. I was hungry.

Unihedro

:O

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://ultrafinessesite.com/pure-detox-max-review/ by boimix Aief on askubuntu.com

Unihedro

08:41

in Maid Café (メイド喫茶) on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Hakase

why do we not have soundcloud oneboxes

J. Steen

08:53

What the heck. A maid café chat room. o.o

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1120172/1699210

Unihedro

@J.Steen Be curious, not judgemental. :p

Jan Dvorak

!so2015

Unihedro

!!/so2015

.

!!/so2015

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Have you been thinking about feeling healthy, gaining power? by noah lee on drupal.stackexchange.com

Unihedro

09:05

!!status

SmokeDetector

@Unihedro Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Election voting ends in 1 day, 10 hours, 54 minutes and 18 seconds.

[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title: http://www.stadtbett.com/testerect/ by Hous Tonbell on meta.stackexchange.com

rene

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@rene Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SilentKiller

09:21

gone

J. Steen

@Unihedro I am curious! I am not judgemental. I was surprised.

Unihedro

:D

It's the Anime & Manga.SE chat room. (Shouldn't have been hard to guess.)

SmokeDetector

09:51

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Most and thus the simplest effective accessible? by user46529 on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Compiled formula is too big to execute - Reduce Formula Size by Sid on salesforce.stackexchange.com

rene

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@rene Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

Jan Dvorak

not FP?

rene

Uh, mmmhmmm maybe, yes, no, salesforce ... spam... OK FP

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@rene Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Helps Get obviate Gas and Bloat by przyxony on drupal.stackexchange.com

bummi

10:02

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Python - Find the greatest number in a set of numbers by bob on stackoverflow.com

bummi

:/ stackoverflow.com/a/29744663/1699210

Qantas 94 Heavy

jQuery is complicated, let's try clothes shopping instead :P

SilentKiller

lols

bummi

:/ gaming.stackexchange.com/a/214722/93824

:/ meta.stackexchange.com/q/253929/201151

Unihedro

10:11

blacklist candidate: ｆｕｃｋｉｎｇ

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Sensible Secrets For Enduros Testo Booster Free Trial - What's Needed by moris sumon on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Jan Dvorak

@bummi stop with your confusing reports, man!!!

bummi

Aye Aye

SilentKiller

10:13

both gone

Unihedro

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/29744252/3622940

typo / tmi

J. Steen

C-C-C-CLOSED

Unihedro

bummi

blacklist candidate converter-video.com

Patrick Hofman

VLQ: meta.stackexchange.com/a/253931/245360

J. Steen

10:28

Spam filter poisoner?

Non-sensical answer: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/21026/…

Second Rikudo

@Unihedro statistics for of what?

Referers?

Unihedro

Online time.

Second Rikudo

Ah

J. Steen

I read it as "catdoku.org".

Second Rikudo

You left out the porn, I see.

J. Steen

10:29

A cat-specific sudoku-site.

Unihedro

@SecondRikudo imgur.com/a/cableporn

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: compress avi video file using directshow by stablebetter on stackoverflow.com

Unihedro

OMG I got declined flags

SilentKiller

which one ?

Unihedro

Lol thanks for the 'NullPointerException' tip. That helped me figure it out Thanks so much! — Minersof49ers Apr 9 at 23:48

^ cv-plz

@SilentKiller vlq's

SilentKiller

10:38

@Unihedro is it an answer ?

Unihedro

vlq flags

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/8401773/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/7351333/1699210

@SmokeDetector let's hope a mod will inspect the other answers of this user ....

SilentKiller

@bummi all answer contating Blacklisted website: idealshare.net

all 12 answers

Jan Dvorak

@SilentKiller worth a custom flag then

bummi

@JanDvorak I have stone old customs, I won't raise

Jan Dvorak

10:43

Mods try to handle custom flags in order of importance

bummi

feel free to flag

SilentKiller

@JanDvorak done with custom flag :)

Flyk

salut

J. Steen

spam stackoverflow.com/questions/29745672/…

Jan Dvorak

gone

J. Steen

10:46

43 days - 11 answers, all about idealshare.net

Yeah. Spam.

AstroCB

@bjb568islowercase So it'll go to Tim? Interesting.

!xkcd latest

Poor xkcdBot, always getting Shog-kicked.

SilentKiller

@bummi Spam user and answers nuked.

J. Steen

11 free spam flags. Kaching.

SilentKiller

yeah 11 flags from a single user. ;)

bummi

@SilentKiller thanks, fine. I did refrain from flagging here.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28363894/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28747579/1699210

tchrist

10:58

@JanDvorak That’s why I always prefix mine with IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT! IMPORTANT!

Jan Dvorak

@tchrist Declined - It's not that important... Please reflag without the banner

J. Steen

No no. You forgot to prepend with the upside down exclamation point... ¡IMPORTANT! ¡IMPORTANT! ¡IMPORTANT!

tchrist

Blackletter also helps.

SilentKiller

it's troll... ^^ xD

Jan Dvorak

Not to be confused with blackmail

tchrist

11:02

𝕳𝖊𝖞 𝖑𝖔𝖔𝖐 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖎𝖘 𝕴𝕸𝕻𝕺𝕽𝕿𝕬𝕹𝕿: Obsolete.

Jan Dvorak

@tchrist doesn't work on Windows

J. Steen

I want my Mac. =(

bjb568 is lowercase

Morning!

xkcdBot

I'd press on them to try to unstick them, but I can't reach. Can we try cycling day and night really fast?

bjb568 is lowercase

ugh

Jan Dvorak

11:07

Can I flag that as offensive? I'm offended by the idea of no longer having our morning trains

rene

I'm offended by morning trains in my afternoon ...

xkcdBot

rene

ugh

tchrist

@JanDvorak That is an inaccurate statement and you know it. You mean that Windows doesn’t work. I assure you that those code points’ numbers are being correctly transmitted.

Jan Dvorak

Lemme summon @inf

rene

11:10

good plan

tchrist

Is her name really Mary?

Jan Dvorak

@tchrist Sure, but the mods can't read the letters they mean

tchrist

Then they can look them up. But really, Windows mods? Don’t be silly.

Jan Dvorak

This should probably get into next year's questionairre

J. Steen

Windows? What?

Unihedro

11:13

Tabs vs spaces: the killer question

tchrist

By people who don’t use editors.

J. Steen

And utterly misunderstood.

Cause I'm pretty sure there's a rather large bunch that answered "tabs" that have options like 'convert tabs to spaces' activated. Who in their right mind hits space four times to indent code. No, you hit tab once and let the editor do your work for you.

Jan Dvorak

^

bjb568 is lowercase

ugh

rene

edlin doesn't have that feature...

J. Steen

11:16

Who in their right mind

PeterJ

Programs compile faster with tabs

rene

Sure, how much faster?

J. Steen

A gazillion times.

PeterJ

Several milliseconds at least I'd expect

tchrist

@J.Steen ^T indents to the next shift-width column, ^D undents to the next shift-width column, >> shifts an existing line in to the next shift-width column, >% shifts an existing block in to the next shift-width column. I cannot even enter a tab because that key is bound to a macro prefix.

@PeterJ Notasfastasthosewithoutanywhitespaceatall.

J. Steen

11:20

@tchrist I repeat myself: who in their right mind

tchrist

@J.Steen I’m sorry, did you say something? My computer does not understand bold.

Unihedro

@J.Steen me. I indent with four spaces even though my Tabs To Spaces mode is enabled.

J. Steen

@Unihedro You're strange. =D

Unihedro

My mind drives out of flow if I hit tab. That's how much I hate it.

tchrist

It is must easier to type ^T than TAB.

Unihedro

11:21

^

bjb568 is lowercase

ugh

J. Steen

@Unihedro However, ultimately - the answer to the question, for you, is "spaces".

Unihedro

(much*)

tchrist

Just like I never ever ever use the backspace key. Too far from my home row.

Of course, hunters and peckers have different gifts.

Unihedro

shift-left-left-left- delete

:D

tchrist

11:23

What’s left?

hhhh

user259867

@SmokeDetector Log.d("Registration Failure!", "This is shit");

user259867

Worth editing? Probably not, deep in code.

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@pizza Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Unihedro

@pizza Whack with crowbar instead.

At OP, that is.

Jan Dvorak

11:24

Where exactly is your delete key???

Unihedro

To the right of Enter

tchrist

With my caps lock key: somewhere in the basement.

J. Steen

I, for instance, have more than two fingers.

tchrist

Home row || die.

You will never find the Amulet of Yendor until you have become one with your homerow.

J. Steen

My homerow is my entire keyboard.

tchrist

11:28

What, no nibs?

My fingers know the walking when my hands never move.

J. Steen

No. I use my thumbs against the bottom of the spacebar, and a rather muscle-memory-ingrained angle of my fingers.

tchrist

Everyone's thumbs are grounded on the space bar.

But you cannot strike something you cannot reach.

And if you have to move your hand to reach it, it isn't worth having.

J. Steen

Normal users do have mice.

tchrist

Ick.

He who types by the mouse dies by the mouse.

See Pentadactyl.

Unihedro

Ack.

J. Steen

11:31

See Windows.

rene

I used to have mice until the cat showed up

Unihedro

Just build a system that lets you use voice control anyway.

Keyboards and mouses are so 1900. Freehand FTW

tchrist

@J.Steen Don’t be silly.

I’m a professional.

J. Steen

As am I. I'm just open-minded, too.

rene

those are the worst

tchrist

11:34

@J.Steen Anybody who’s "open minded" about Windows needs to have the brain surgeon finish the procedure, close up his gaping skull, and move him to the recovery room. If he’s still open minded, the lobotomy worked.

J. Steen

I'll expect you to start typing Micro$oft any second now.

tchrist

hit

not

oft

jurgemaister

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29746684/…

@J.Steen Don't you have auto correct Microsoft -> Micro$soft?

Jan Dvorak

M1cr0$0f7

jurgemaister

h4xx0r

tchrist

11:44

μturdz

user259867

Excellent match: capitalization and question score. (From a user's Top Network posts)

tchrist

Eh?

user259867

Buzzfeed

jurgemaister

@pizza I saw your name, and now I'm hungry. Thanks man

tchrist

11:46

You mean ⅀ ord(n) % 128 ≟ 81

Unihedro

@pizza ugh moar profshnal plz

tchrist

@pizza Its capitalization is wrong. :(

xkcdBot

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

tchrist

/kick @xkcdBot

Unihedro

!!/kick @xkcdBot

user259867

11:49

!!/ignore the useless bots

Doorknob

!!/blame the bot

SmokeDetector

@Doorknob It's tchrist's fault.

Doorknob

@tchrist YOU'RE A BOT!

tchrist

her.

SilentKiller

whose ?

tchrist

11:54

> You’re a bother.

Patrick Hofman

12:25

0

Q: Let the Next Privilege point to the Privilege page

When clicking on the Next Privilege progress bar in the web site, you see a tip telling you what you can achieve. However, showing the tip was disabled on the mobile website for obvious reasons (it is breaking layout now): Clicking the progress bar does nothing. I would love to see the mob...

feature-request mobile-web privileges

^^ you like, or you not like :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Magento login admin page FATAL ERROR / WHITE SCREEN by Lykingond on magento.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: "In a call" versus "on a call" by rahul on english.stackexchange.com

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman Blacklisted user.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://www.biomusclexrrev.com by kajeehe Roeid on askubuntu.com

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Mooseman

12:38

@Unihedro i.sstatic.net/ICwTe.png RE: discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/q/20461/121930

Unihedro

@Mooseman edit it in then

Mooseman

Unihedro

@Mooseman -_- don't you need 10k rep to see deleted stuff?

editing only takes 1k

Mooseman

@Unihedro I had some help...

Unihedro

k

thanks

SilentKiller

13:02

Cya!

Lynn Crumbling

Self-admitted dup : stackoverflow.com/q/29748447/656243

Unihedro

question ban in 3 2 1

Bart

Cheers. Confetti.

JonasCz

@Unihedro Huh ? I have 1.5k and can't edit on meta..

Infinite Recursion

Test: Its capitalization is wrong.

xkcdBot

13:11

Unihedro

@JonasCz Meta rep goes through the graduated site limits.

1.5k with full editing perms are on beta sites only.

Infinite Recursion

@AstroCB I kicked @xkcdBot for bot spam. Please add an appropriate invocation sequence. Random oneboxes are bot spam.

5

Unihedro

Area51 and Discussion Area51 are 1k.

bjb568 is lowercase

Lol

The wrath of the duck is here

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Whats the simplest way to edit and add files to "/var/www"? by a deleted user on askubuntu.com

AstroCB

13:28

Hmm...

Interesting.

So when bjb spams, he doesn't get kicked.

tchrist

Does he autotrigger?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Extract string from multiple files using vba by madman on stackoverflow.com

AstroCB

14 hours ago, by AstroCB

You all have yet to discover xkcdBot's best feature: trigger phrases.

@Inf Also, FYI – if you get annoyed with the oneboxes, xkcdBot has a publicly-accessible delete command.

tchrist

Um.

AstroCB

I'll turn off the the auto-trigger, though.

tchrist

13:33

There is no sentience about the triggers.

Howsoever many times they occur, it one boxes. That’s subclever.

rene

13:44

@Oded I guess something got pushed that slipped through the QA cracks: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/290856/…

Oded

@rene urg

Infinite Recursion

@AstroCB Bjb gets kicked when his bot spams and any taverner reports it.

AstroCB

True.

Still need that kick bot, though.

rene

And who kicks the duck?

(prepares to be kicked)

Infinite Recursion

@AstroCB I don't get annoyed. Moderation is not based on my personal preferences. In this case, I was pinged that your bot was spamming. I have given you the reason of the kick, if you disagree, you are free to discuss it.

@rene Other RO's :)

rene

13:50

Pfff, I escaped ;)

AstroCB

@InfiniteRecursion I understand; just a PSA.

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion or diamondz

Infinite Recursion

I am not going to make any kick bots, or any bots of any kind.

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion can be cool. Place two kick bots that will spam kicks then kick each other. :D

Unihedro

:(

2

Infinite Recursion

13:51

@ShadowWizard lol

Bot football/ soccer

Shadow Wizard

I wonder if a kicked room owner can still issue a kick? (via console, direct POST request probably)

AstroCB

If SmokeDetector gets kicked, can it flag the Tavern as spam?

Unihedro

@ShadowWizard no, you get a temporary demotion; you're not allowed to change access rights / unstar stuff while you're kicked

PeterJ

And if a room owner gets kicked can they observe from outside the box if the kick has worked?

Unihedro

You're still listed as an RO though.

Shadow Wizard

13:54

@rene it's @ProgramFOX fault

16

A: New profile pages are out - bugs and feedback master list

status-completed "Member for today" When a member signed up today, their profile says "Member for today". This should be "Member since today".

Unihedro

@PeterJ No, joining the room results in redirecting to the kick message. You can however use a fresh browser instance that doesn't come with cookies to view as guest.

AstroCB

I do still think that xkcdBot was providing a valuable service – oneboxes are far less spammy than a train of 5 "Morning!"s

rene

@ShadowWizard lets kick him once he arrives here.

Shadow Wizard

@rene I prefer "kick bomb", triggered automatically when he arrives. @Inf is this possible? ;)

@AstroCB bots can be easily abused, that's the problem. It's like giving a toy to a kid and expect him to behave. ;)

Infinite Recursion

The regulars of a room decide what they want to chat about. If 5 users want a train, it's ok.

Andy

13:57

@AstroCB It's less spammy than reposting reddit to the tavern too

yesterday, by Andy

@bjb568 Why do you keep posting the front page of reddit here?

Shadow Wizard

@Mooseman shog

Mooseman

@ShadowWizard I. AM. ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE.

Shadow Wizard

See, @AstroCB? ^

:D

Unihedro

@AstroCB /closed as primarily opinion based

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion and 20?

AstroCB

13:58

yesterday, by bjb568

Tavern needs those.

Infinite Recursion

Bot devs should check if the regular users of the room want the bot or not.

@ShadowWizard Still ok :)

AstroCB

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion feeling bit uneasy with "regular users". What's the definition? How are they selected? Someone who was super active for years, then disappear for long time and coming back - does he/she still count as "room regular"?

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