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12:00 AM
They took almost forever to gain 100% commitment, a bad sign. The topic is narrow and not particularly internet-y. Cf. Home Automation.
I was referring to closing in only private beta, not in public beta.
Public beta shutdowns are more traumatic. The older the site, the greater the pain. Some people are still unhappy about Theoretical Physics shutdown, which was three years ago.
woodworking entered private beta today
@Woodface In which reference frame? :)
how to make a face out of wood? @woodface
12:11 AM
@Roombatron5000 By plasticking it.
i'd like to see board and card games, poker, chess, martial arts, and sports all merged into one site
And Poker with their spam.
I think the last public beta shutdown was Libraries & Information Science, and that was June 2013.
It’s remarkable how old so many betas are without ever mustering the momentum to graduate nor fizzling into oblivion.
You might think that after their five-year mission going nowhere, their Enterprise might be called home again.
they should really graduate gardening and landscaping already... like wtf why not yolo
12:21 AM
@Roombatron5000 Deuteranope much?
i already looked over the stats, exception should be made
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: That's the problem I don't remember by Andrew on anime.stackexchange.com
3.5 questions/day is more than Skeptics get (2.4 per day).
12:39 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: ADC Read function not working properly by sam brosteain on electronics.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector fp
@hichris123 Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
hey guys
hiya @James
12:52 AM
Wooo overnight rep
1:16 AM
@tchrist All green for me!
1:46 AM
@CreationEdge I refuted the claim that the edit deviated from the intention of OP with evidence related to OP. The fact my argument mentioned a specific person doesn't merit any other mentions of specific people. If you are trying to argue that the policy should be to not allow those edits because the majority of reviewers disapproved of them, recognize that both of my edits got thru the review system with a majority vote. — bjb568 36 secs ago
this is mildly entertaining
is there anyone sane that wouldn't prevent something bad from happening?
Question about the Roomba: this question should have been tidied away by now (unlocked, unanswered, negative score, 30+ days old), but is still lurking. Have I misunderstood something?
2:01 AM
@HoboSapiens febuary only had 28 days... so it should roomba it next time
roomba runs on early saturday morning UTC time , thus last saturday it wasn't older than 30 days yet, so it will roomba next saturday
@Roombatron5000 Ahh - got it. I had the rules right but the arithmetic wrong. Thanks.
More 'Best Book' requests:
Is the Google Doodle today supposed to look anything like the word "Google?" Because it looks absolutely nothing like the word "Google."
@Doorknob don't you see the two "o"'s jumping around, they are twins!
2:10 AM
What doodle?
I see no doodle
Maybe it's because timezones?
Is it still March 17 for you?
not too hard to figure out which is the "G" "o" "o" "g" "l" "e"
2:11 AM
its march 18
that's why :P
also only an american holiday?
(it's animated; too lazy to make a GIF)
??? St Patricks Day is american?
I think you might now become a target for the IRA
2:13 AM
yes, we claimed him
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How can McGonagall make sandwiches appear? by Jim the nigger on scifi.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
2:13 AM
@bjb568 ... I'm an idiot
[Saint Patrick's Day is a public holiday in the Republic of Ireland,[10] Northern Ireland,[11] the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador, and the British Overseas Territory of Montserrat. It is also widely celebrated by the Irish diaspora around the world, especially in Great Britain, Canada, the United States, Argentina, Australia and New Zealand.](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Day)
Thats would almost be hilarious
if it wasn't so racist
the google doodle?
@SmokeDetector lolnothis
noo the SmokeDetector offensive answer
2:34 AM
@Doorknob I think their idea is that by now everyone knows what's written there, so the number of letters and subtle size hints should be enough.
With 1 rep, I suppose the user loves to receive downvotes.
"My desires are unconventional"
Sadomasochism is the giving or receiving of pleasure—sometimes sexual—from acts involving the infliction or reception of pain or humiliation. A subset of BDSM, practitioners of sadomasochism usually seek out sexual gratification from these acts, but can also seek out other forms of personal pleasure. While the terms sadist and masochist specifically refer to one who either enjoys giving or receiving pain (respectively), many practitioners of sadomasochism describe, as can be found with the enjoyment of the experience in other fields of personal gratification activity, can have a spectrum or an...
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Standard for testing Aesthetic conditions in software by Josh on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
2:41 AM
Why did it take so long?
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Woodface Blacklisted user.
@JanDvorak huhyay?
@bjb568 I'm sorry, but what is "huhyay" even supposed to mean?
2:46 AM
Wiktionary did find a meaning, but it's a quechuan verb.
== §Quechua == === §Verb === huhyay (intransitive) to suddenly change one's expression ==== §Conjugation... ====
Apparently JW.org offers six dialects of this language I didn't even know existed.
Jehovah’s Witnesses? ಠ_ಠ
Don't even know who that is.
Read up then
I feel that I suddenly gained 10 points of IQ... just to lose 15
> When I first learned to program, I saved for probably a month to buy a crappy copy of Turbo C. -- in today's episode of Shogbildungsroman.
2:57 AM
wth is X-bildungsroman?
@Braiam What have you tried?
Meanwhile, as the Meta effect runs rampant...
Q: Split first column of each lines respect to the remaining columns

BinishMy original file is below: awk test1(GROUP)X root(USER)X cat test1(GROUP)N test2(GROUP)X root(USER)X chmod test2(GROUP)X test3(GROUP)X root(USER)N chown test2(GROUP)X test3(GROUP)X root(USER)X crontab test1(GROUP)X root(USER)X test2(GROUP)X Looking for an output as below: awk test1(GROUP)X a...

@Woodface 3 seconds of wonder... the staring at your Woodface for 2 minutes
meta offtopic... much scrolling to the closevote option.
@Woodface It's great how it's tagged .
3:07 AM
I like the "help me" at the end
As if anyone is going to read that far?
VTC as blatantly off topic
and it's because he's using an outdated version of Spring with Java 1.8
Probably has a question ban on SO for continually posting stacktraces or somethign
or whatever the chat tag markup is
These two are both actually Spam, because the project in question belongs to the answerer but he never states so in the answer
@JamesMassey "Sualeh Fatehi, SchemaCrawler" does look like a disclosure.
I just assumed that he was posting the link a second time. As an answer it is still useless, because he never states how it will solve the question asked.
What is the chat markup for tags anyway?
3:18 AM
Same as posts
ohhhh I forgot the tag prefix
> We are going to try a new workflow where we are essentially graduate a site before the design is ready. We don't yet have an ETA for when your design will be finished, but we felt it unreasonable to continue holding you back while we catch up on that backlog. So we're going for it! -- interesting
3:22 AM
Replace graduation with an incremental process was proposed by Manish in 2013
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Can I get vegan sushi in Tokyo? by Lurrey on travel.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How do I handle large paragraphs of centered text? by Lurrey on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
3:23 AM
+1 to @bummi for suggesting to blacklist those sites.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
lots of spam o.o
And the worst kind, answer-posting spam.
3:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: What currency is used in all of the Pokemon games? by Lurrey on gaming.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
So that blacklists the user from that particular stackexchange site?
@SmokeDetector fp
3:30 AM
@Woodface Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Are bird's nest ferns deeply rooted? by Lurrey on gardening.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
@JamesMassey Yes, only from that site. Which, truth be told, rarely does anything useful -- there is usually one post per spammer per site.
the accounts are all named Lurrey, but they're different accounts -_-
@Doorknob Even if they were linked, Smokey would not recognize them if they are on different sites.
3:32 AM
@Woodface Yeah, but I could get a CM to nuke the network account.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
6 sites down, 132 to go
still awaiting Drupal
3:38 AM
still waiting for it to post on PPCG or Puzzling because destroying accounts is fun
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: "Country" is to "compatriot" as "species" is to what? by Lurrey on english.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
@SmokeDetector tpu
Does Smokey also then protect the question or is blacklisting the user considered enough
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
@JamesMassey How would it protect the question with no rep?
@JamesMassey Smokey has no superpowers. It just tells us what it sees.
3:42 AM
It's a smoke detector, not a fireman
but then how does the user get blacklisted?
or is it so smokey picks up when that user posts
We are a bunch of guys with wet towels
@JamesMassey If the user posts again on the site, it rings the alarm bell
@JamesMassey Yes, that.
3:43 AM
9 sites so far. Is there any pattern to the question chosen?
Ideally, tpu'ing an answer would add it to a "bad" Bayesian doctype. But that's not implemented yet.
accidentally hit the reply button >_<
@Doorknob well, go!
All but one has a question mark at the end
other than that, I can't see one
probably just random recent questions
@Woodface @SmokeDetector y u no catch
Hmm, smokey didn't catch it'
@Doorknob 6346
@Doorknob how you dare to accidentally the reply button?
3:45 AM
@JamesMassey inb4 it does
@Doorknob It's waiting for 2nd post, to pull two at a time.
Search query is how I got it: stackexchange.com/search?q=trustessaywriting
oh, right
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How would plant control powers/magic work? by Lurrey on worldbuilding.stackexchange.com
3:47 AM
could the pattern be that these questions happen to be at the top of the list? Or are they there because the new answer is bumping them
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
or is it picking them out of the Hot Network Questions list
ooooh it could be HNQ
wait, but what about superuser.com/q/889834/218034
Because all these questions are familiar to me
hmm, that one isn't
maybe it couldn't find a HNQ for superuser
3:48 AM
it's at -1 with 0 answers, so definitely not HNQ material
so picked one at random from the last few days
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Approximating the value of Euler's constant? by Lurrey on math.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
MIPS is annoying. And by MIPS I mean Mathjax-Induced Page Scrolling.
3:52 AM
IIPS too (images loading, especially prominent on [graphical-output] questions on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf)
Luckily you don't often link to answers there. OTOH, INB4...
Might get messy in sandbox, though
How many sites so far? I'm losing count. 11 Smokey reports, 2 mine.
So, 13 sites down, 125 to go.
Who says it'll only post once on each site?
Past experience.
So far it has been so
Has someone explicitly said "base 10" yet? — keshlam Jan 9 '14 at 14:42
(great comment at this point in the comment thread)
4:04 AM
Does Community automatically protect after a single spam-deleted answer?
Because all those Lurrey questions got protected now.
old spam?
Hmm. I don't have 10k on any of the spammed sites so far to check.
But all questions, even 2 days old
4:06 AM
@Woodface >24 hours, 3 answers, 1 rep users, deleted
@Doorknob It has another trustmyessay spam deleted 2 days ago. Got protected today after the second one.
I guess today is Lurrey's second try going over the same questions. This is why they get protected now.
So the spam should stop now? Which means I can go to sleep? :P
@Doorknob Yes, feel free to.
4:08 AM
@Braiam But spam should carry more weight.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Retain muscle mass and boost energy by jettyyangy on drupal.stackexchange.com
those guys...
And now back to our regular programming
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to preview texture without lighting by Lurrey on blender.stackexchange.com
4:11 AM
oh god!
it begins again
should i wake Doorknob?
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Doorknob Blacklisted user.
4:12 AM
is still here
@SmokeDetector edited
4:19 AM
hasn't that user been in tavern before?
maybe he was just running his own audits
yeah, he's an AU mod
it was an edit conflict
Yes, Seth did not delete as much as Doorknob did, so it looks like he's adding that line.
I edited the last three paragraphs out, while he was suggesting an edit that removed the last 2 paragraphs
yeah sorry for looking like an idiot everyone.. I blame @Doorknob :p
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: THE CHANGE STORING by Lê Phụng Hiển on askubuntu.com
4:27 AM
also, I didn't know you hung out here @tchrist :)
@ɥʇǝS I’m just here for the tentempiés.
@SmokeDetector Now Seth should edit and Doorknob suggest...
Didn't expect such a bad edit from ɥʇǝS :/
The real idiot is the 2nd reviewer. :\
@tchrist Ooh, well, have fun! I'm off to bed. LabView makes me tired.
@InfiniteRecursion :(
4:32 AM
@bjb568 needs to invite the reviewer and ɥʇǝS to his room and educate them about suggested edits :D
Hey, it was an edit conflict! Not my fault :P
it was my fault then?
oh, btw
2 hours ago, by Doorknob
@bjb568 ... I'm an idiot
No, it was Doorknob's fault :P
Should I pin that? ^^ :D
hi @Braiam
Trying to think of a good joke about it being your fault and failing miserably. So hi.
Thankfully I don't have insta flag privs here :P
it's the only pins I can do here :(
@SmokeDetector tpu
@InfiniteRecursion Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
well that was odd... — user3293056 6 mins ago
^ an odd selfie
5:21 AM
that's a dup of so many, but i can't find the one it needs to be duped of
@Roombatron5000 close as unclear because it's unclear what the OP is getting at
With question, comment and answer contradicting each other.
Maybe not contradicting, but certainly lacking coherence.
I cv'ed as POB.
There was more trustessaywriting going on: one was on RPG, Smokey missed it. Got deleted ~ half an hour ago.
5:25 AM
This is from looking at cached search results, all these are gone now.
Nobody puts baby in the corner... — J. Steen 15 hours ago
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Leads to at best temporary results but here's by hollypearson on drupal.stackexchange.com
I find it amusing that people take an almost sexual joy on SE, smacking down spammers within seconds
its brilliant
I’m afraid you’ve confused sex with violence.
14 mins ago, by Infinite Recursion
well that was odd... — user3293056 6 mins ago
5:31 AM
46 secs ago, by Roombatron5000
14 mins ago, by Infinite Recursion
well that was odd... — user3293056 6 mins ago
5:42 AM
> They violate a sense of professionalism.

> I think we all have been in the situation where someone finds out that we work with computers and asks us to fix their laptop or whatever.
Yes, that. And not just with computers.
Most deletions are Roomba deletions. Thanks to @Roombatron5000 :)
in part that is.
6:08 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftodoc/ by josetest on math.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftodoc/ by josetest on meta.stackexchange.com
oh god
here we go again
@SmokeDetector tpu
@Woodface Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
@SmokeDetector tpu but honestly.... sourceforge?
@Woodface Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.
6:11 AM
Instead of skin care, the post contained a PDF converter. Would not buy again.
Tried applying to affected area, made symptoms worse
Is it morally reprehensible to help the Roomba along?
Just a small tip over the brink of oblivion. :)
@tchrist Not as far as I'm concerned.
rubs palms
Just kidding. :)
A: Proposed Change to Community Deletion Criteria

MichaelTI've sat and ruminated on this for awhile. I think that ChrisF's answer is indeed the right answer (saving one from one of the Community Managers to really say one way or the other). On occasion, I do exactly this - use a down vote to try to cut down the amount of crap that is out there. I'v...

6:22 AM
Can someone help me with this question? :stackoverflow.com/questions/29115169/…
MichaelT's answer is at +15 -0.
On Math, the introduction of this technique (by me) resulted in a somewhat tense exchange. My answer there is at +23 -34.
So... depends on whom you ask.
The lack of review queues may be part of it. But in this related, question I ask why it is nearly impossible to get 10k users to delete stuff, even really bad stuff. The one answer seems to be that this isn't how most people care to donate their time. — tchrist 12 secs ago
I think there must be more to it than that.
+1 but I disagree with "pending delete votes on answers" part. Those often result from normal review process: someone posts, say, a link-only answer, a reviewer votes to delete while leaving a templated comment, then someone (the author or another reviewer) fixes the problem. No need to delete anymore, but delete votes do not expire and cannot be retracted.
6:30 AM
Yes, that can happen.
I tend to work my way up from the most negative ones first.
But you only get 30 votes a day.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: This is the best way to copy? by miyatodf on askubuntu.com
Well, delete-votes. Downvotes can be higher. Rather higher in some cases.
There are plenty of days when I get upwards of 50 votes per day.
The site tries to encourage certain behaviors. I still think there should be some sort of merit badge for CVing metric buttloads of duplicates: that's a very useful and rather thankless task.
@tchrist My take on the same: How to repair the close-delete pipeline?, still my lowest-voted question on meta.math (+12 -7). But there was a marked increase in deletions in the months following the brouhaha there. Several high rep users now check out 10K tools regularly, and use their 20-30 delete votes.
6:36 AM
I am the only one who ever does that on ELU. On SO, it's obviously much better, but there one has both numbers and seniority.
Still, I like to review the DV queue on SO to see things that have like 12 DVs and still need more. :)
Are you running your own feed? What's with Smokey?
You know of the erstwhile SO problem of titles like "I have a problem" or "PLEAZE HELP ME WTHI MY PROBEM!!!!", right?
It turns out that there are for all intents and purposes uncountably infinitely many possible questions that just say “Is this correct?”, post a single line of code or sentence of English that will never again help a single soul who later visits the site. Because the number of such things is unbounded.
Way to bring the mood down :(
I’d love a cure.
I don’t have a cure.
But the people doing this are virtually always rep=1 first-time posters.
Stop letting unqualified people produce software
The number of electrical engineers who get hired as software engineers is too damn high
6:43 AM
Hey programming is easy: anybody can do it — poorly.
The number of high school graduates who get hired as software engineers is too damn high. Who think that just because they can make an excel macro work, they are qualified to build rocket software
Totally agreed
Hacking crap together is very easy, designing elegant, maintainable software, that's tricky
@JamesMassey Excel has macros? :)
sooooo, not really
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: What does Kernel do? by baba ramdev on askubuntu.com
6:50 AM
@JamesMassey There are only two kinds of cool macros: these ones and these ones, maybe with honorable mention for these ones. :)
Anything written in VBA is an abomination before the lord
much like PHP
Amen, brother.
Not that I haven’t done startling macros with the C preprocessor. But some of those others are a lot more fun.
I once put together a Java project whose Makefile ran everything trough cpp first. The Java-only team members quivered in fear, loathing, and confusion.
thats just cruel

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