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00:00
@lostsock hehe. Wait... are you a sock of mine?
The queues are open!
I have to head to school, bye!
@Unihedron wait, shog will call you in sick
"Id"	"Time"	"NumInQueue"
"67234"	"2014-09-23 00:00:03"	"11797"
"67233"	"2014-09-22 23:55:04"	"11788"
"67232"	"2014-09-22 23:50:15"	"11783"
Short-lived. :(
00:02
@hichris You do know that rolling back the edits is pointless since the user will be nuked probably…
@bjb568 ... which is why I stopped. :P
<3
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000 on stackoverflow.com
score over 9000!?!
lol
@SmokeDetector Are you saying something, Smokey? Trying to communicate with us via binary?
@Doorknob please regulate
00:16
@lostsock hrm?
@lostsock indeed.
@lostsock indeed.
status-gimme-a-diamond-so-i-can-fix-this
@lostsock indeed.
@hichris123 protected by someone... he'll probably go to his other two posts thogh
00:18
@lostsock Protection won't do anything for edits.
But deleting all of them will!
been 30+ minutes since my custom mod flags still waiting
0
Q: The rate limit to block people from editing their own posts more than 5 times a day isn't working

hichris123This user has been editing all of their posts to askwale and similar stuff for a while now. It's gotten to about 30 edits, but they're not being blocked from editing their own posts. It apparently scales with reputation, but the most rep they've ever had is ~15-20 rep. Is this a bug? Or has the ...

is it 5 different posts though, not 5 edits?
aha, yep.
@lostsock massively-edits post
New and improved!
2
Q: Improve the rate-limit to prevent rage-quits via self-edits

hichris123This user has been editing all of their posts to askwale and similar stuff for a while now. It's gotten to about 30 edits, but they're not being blocked from editing their own posts because this wouldn't trip the 5-post self-edit rate limit because they're only editing 3 posts of theirs. It woul...

wonders why he has more rep on MSE than hichris123
@Braiam cc @Unihedron @bjb568
@Braiam Wowee. What is overpopulation?
@bjb568 there isn't actual overpopulation, just that all housings are filled
@Braiam So (besides killing the poor kittens) what can I do to not decrease the happiness?
00:44
get furs, ivory and spice, build amphitheaters and temples
my happiness is 126%, with the buildings and items you see in the screenshot
Huh. Why does killing the kittens make them happy?
because there are more housing available
the less kittens you have the happier they are
@Braiam I like it that way. :P
(not able to VTC == more close flags)
@Braiam But they repopulate and it doesn't go down again…
"Id"	"Time"	"NumInQueue"
"67237"	"2014-09-23 00:15:03"	"10793"
"67236"	"2014-09-23 00:10:03"	"11797"
^ Huh, what happens at 00:15 UTC?
Is that... de-queuing?
00:56
2
A: What are the basics to collect seed from the vegetable garden?

J. MusserWhy are heirloom varieties best for saving seed? They aren't hybridized, so their offspring will be very similar genetically, to the original stock, if good techniques are implemented. So, for the basic answer: We'll first go into pollination. There are: Self-pollinated plants Insect-pollinat...

probably
^ And only 2 votes!?
@Frank time
1 min ago, by Braiam
@Frank time
of the day, difference between your and his, etc.
01:00
@Braiam It was there 5 hours. His was there 11. not a huge difference.
in 6 hours many people go to sleep
in fact 1/4 of the globe goes dark
@Braiam I find most of the users on GL are in North America, a few in the UK, but not so many.
I wonder why that is, that most gardeners are in the US, some in the UK, and less from other countries.
there ain't asian gardeners?
@Braiam Not many on GL, really. It would be great, because we'd get more traffic. Most of the users from Asia occasionally ask questions, but no regular users with frequent answers. I wish there was at least one, to better answer questions localized in Asia, if you know of anyone let them know!
@Frank It seems SE is kinda US-y.
01:13
@bjb568 Out of the first few users, #1 is American, #2 is Canadian, #3 is from the UK, #4 (me) is American, #5 is American, #6 is from the UK, #7 is from the UK, #8 is American, #9 is American #10 is American.
developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Events/reset If anybody knows what a form reset is, add it here. Because I dunno
@Frank Huh.
@hichris123 suspended
We used to have a couple from Australia, right after private beta, but they're gone now.
@AndrewT. bye bye, user!
@bjb568 to reset a form
01:15
@Braiam To what?
Is that a reset button to clear all text box and... reset others widget to default state(?). The event, it is
Why oh why would some people still use CVS? :/
> Last updated by: Braiam, Sep 22, 2014 6:21:07 PM
:)
01:22
if ( TRUE )
{
    // kludge
    // TRANSLATORS: %s is a round ID
    $CRITERIA['R*+P1'] = sprintf( _("'%s' pages completed"), 'R1+R2+P1' );
}
... wut?
..................................
WHY WOULD YOU EVER USE if (TRUE)???
plot twist: TRUE is a variable name that returns... FALSE
5
plot twist: TRUE is a variable name who's value is FALSE, which is a variable name who's value is a pointer to TRUE.
3
01:27
@hichris123 Did you really expect more from a PHP dev?
I guess maybe it's supposed to define an if ($WE'RE_USING_THIS_CRAPPY_FUNCTION) {.
@bjb568 True.
> A kludge (or kluge) (klo̅o̅j) is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, difficult to extend, and hard to maintain, yet an effective and quick solution to a problem
Quick and effective, not the other way around.
Let's go make this file better.
Right now, it's 884 lines.
Down to 880. :P
--- a	2014-09-22 21:37:23.760601139 -0400
+++ b	2014-09-22 21:39:12.445769489 -0400
@@ -1,6 +1,2 @@
-if ( TRUE )
-{
-    // kludge
-    // TRANSLATORS: %s is a round ID
-    $CRITERIA['R*+P1'] = sprintf( _("'%s' pages completed"), 'R1+R2+P1' );
-}
+// TRANSLATORS: %s is a round ID
+$CRITERIA['R*+P1'] = sprintf( _("'%s' pages completed"), 'R1+R2+P1' );
^ hichris patch
01:39
:P
@hichris123 CVS as Control Version System? You mean that you don't like Git?
@Braiam I love git. But this group is stuck in the dark ages, using CVS. :(
@hichris123 you mean Concurrent Versions System?
@animuson Do they sell git there?
@Braiam ... yeah.
01:48
@animuson Exactly what I though of. :D
@hichris123 I dare you to go in and ask the clerk.
Please video tape the reaction and following conversation.
@hichris123 shhh! @animuson dares
@animuson lol
We can start a new reality TV show called Geek'd
Omg I just made myself spit out my milk. >_< I was not the target!
2
first victim: animuson
01:53
I should totally send this to the lead dev: stackoverflow.com/questions/802573/….
... mainly I just want git so I can git blame and see who is to blame for this awful code. :P
... why are functions divided by this?
// XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
@hichris123 is there a code convention file somewhere?
just fork the whole thing in a git repo...
What's with that medical question on MSE? xD
02:13
@Braiam I have a local git repo of it.
@Unihedron closed
    $res = mysql_query( "SELECT image, state, metadata, orig_page_num FROM $projectid ORDER BY image ASC");
    $num_rows = mysql_num_rows($res);

    for ( $rownum=0; $rownum < $num_rows; $rownum++ )
    {
        $page_res = mysql_fetch_array( $res, MYSQL_ASSOC );
wha?
oh my
@hichris123 isn't mysql_query insecure anyways?
I know, right?
@Braiam Yup, which is why I went down this road in the first place.
I'm PDO'ifying it.
02:24
recommends a PHP tool that converts from mysql_query to PDO
Is there one?
^ that's way too convenient...
That would make my life so much easier.
// --------------------------------------------
// Index
$index = $rownum+1;
I do declare this situation to be hopeless.
honestly, who leaves such an awful comment?
is actually such comment necessary?
I don't see anything that isn't self-explanatory.... I think
@Braiam I know, right?
$fields_to_get = 'image, state, metadata';
^ never used.
02:27
commit! commit! commit! commit! commit! commit!
remove that line and commit!
I'm not sure if I even have commit privs.
to your local repo ¬_¬
@hichris123 "$result = dbConnect::PDODatabaseObject()->prepare("SELECT nameofwork, authorsna" <--- ??????
@Braiam oh, it got cut off.
Blame PowerShell.
02:37
blames Windows
The user appears to have multiple spam answers.
links may be become unavailable after a while... it's better to add the link's context here... — Kiyarash 22 mins ago
Huh…
Night!
03:02
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CHAVE PRIMARIA E ESTRANGEIRA on pt.stackoverflow.com
@Jamal cv'd... also, on that same question, stackoverflow.com/a/25986383/656243
04:04
Does this question comes under the category which I have selected ? stackoverflow.com/questions/25984094/…
@hichris123 What a spammer :P
Yup. :P
@hichris123 can you check my question ?
VTC as unclear
04:08
@hichris123 ditto.
Its not unclear, the question is correct and to the point. But, we need to know what he has tried so far..
morning!
@JanDvorak gone!
gone gone
Disgusting spam so early in the morning!
Maybe it's targeted at India?
It's mid-day in India ATM
05:14
close your peeping eye @uni, don't look at the disgusting spam !!
gone
Well it's already in such dialect that I can't read it to begin with. :p
hope their target audience understands what they are trying to sell :P
@AndrewT. must be question blocked on SO proper
05:20
"I had a programming question, so I asked it, but they banned me. Turns out I asked it on Meta."
Both nuked.
That was fast!
One more CV for Jan
all the boom pyramids are gone, they binned all the pyramids o_O
6 hours ago, by lostsock
@bjb568 @jan is not here right now, feel free to boom
^your warning was effective @Jan :P
why did I had to start reading chapter of Naruto now...
06:21
@InfiniteRecursion out of CV's, so sorry
@lostsock np lostsock :)
spam gone
06:40
should I remove the bold note at the bottom of this answer? stackoverflow.com/a/25988426/2982225
Remove it. Either way OP will comment (ideally) if they need more information
@InfiniteRecursion there's a lot of other bold stuff
The link has some ugly formatting, too.
I regret I took a peek at his other answers
@AndrewT. are they ugly too?
06:44
Morning!
@InfiniteRecursion I don't dare to look
Andrew in all answers that guy has used Boldness/Italic
Morning!
@SilentKiller Yes, just realized that :(
i had suggested once not to use it but vain
06:46
@JanDvorak Ok, I will close my eyes and move on :)
is it required to show bigger sign and in bold? — SilentKiller 2 days ago
it'll hard to edit each answer.. :/ ignoring
@SilentKiller oh, that's why this-specific recent answer is "normal", didn't notice you already told him :/
Dude that is so annoy... Shog9 supreme leader. Shog9 world domination I will serve for you. Shog9. Shog9 have me commanded. Shog9 highest mod of all. Shog9.Mark Garcia 14 mins ago
I peeped into his other posts, need to write a meta post and ask community :)
@SilentKiller ... I removed the heading ... but boldness i have kept for better formatting of the post ! — Devrath 19 secs ago
i quit
07:05
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Q: How to deal with persistent incorrect formatting?

Infinite RecursionI came across a user who persistently uses incorrect formatting in their posts. Other users have communicated to them regarding this, but the behavior continues. How should we deal with this? Exhibit A: Exhibit B: Exhibit C:

@Jamal spam?
Hm... yeah, go for it.
@Jamal closevoted and spamflagged
07:48
ID train
interestingly enough, deleted questions still redirect properly based on their former title
08:06
Martijn helped clean up the formatting :)
I've just gone through the top-voted ones (anything 10 and up) and cleaned up. Copy editing, toning down the emphasis, including 'backticks are for code' in the summary, etc. — Martijn Pieters 27 mins ago
Thanks @lostsock for cleaning up the formatting
why do I get blog.se pages from a SO URL?
@JanDvorak url please
stackoverflow.com = blog homepage
tested in Chrome and MxNitro
I've already tried flushing my DNS + hard-reset
All are working fine for me, pokes @Bart to test
.... grrr
08:18
other SE domains work for me just fine
No repro
so does AU
No repro :/
You know you've spent too much time on SO when the site starts to redirect you.
2
could someone proxy me stackoverflow.com/questions/6922394/…, please?
or rather a good answer thereof?
08:20
Sorry this is a dumb question, but I cannot figure out how to put multiple modules in the same file. Suppose the file is named A.hs. If I put module B first, i.e.

module B where ...
module A where ...
it complains that it expected A when I run "ghci A" (It's not top-level, so I don't want to call "ghci A.hs"). The other way around, and it complains "parse error on input module").

There's a related bug here, http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/2428 . Is there actually no way to get this, even if the other module is only used locally?
chat.so also works
You cannot have multiple modules in the same file. The bug you linked to is just about the error message given by GHC not being clear about this.

However, if you're using Cabal, you can still control the visibility of modules by putting the modules you want visible to users in the Exposed-Modules section, and putting any internal modules in Other-Modules.
I found the following [bug report](http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/2551).

Which refers to this [mailing list item](http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-August/046504.html), which states:

No, that's not possible because haskell will use the module name A.B.C to look the module up in path A/B/C.[l]hs.
So using modules
module A where
..
module B where
the compiler could only find one of them. (naming the file A.hs or B.hs)
You have to use one file for each module

So, I guess the answer is no.
but... haskell.org/tutorial/modules.html explicitly says otherwise
This is a comment under the question with 4 upvotes
+1 good question, although the answer is essentially "you can't" — Dan Burton Aug 3 '11 at 8:16
but... haskell.org/tutorial/modules.html explicitly says otherwise
oh well. Thanks
08:25
Welcome, sorry for being a dumb proxy and unable to understand the haskell tutorial.
Nice, Zephyr is posting spam reports in the sandbox
@AndrewT. How did you format this quote in chat?
> Blockquote (">" symbol on markdown)
08:38
> Seriously, what the heck motives people to do so? (Somehow I really really can't feel any urge to think anywhere near hitting Close reading a sloppy question. Downvote, maybe, but not close, he should get the hint by the two digits negative rating)
Has SO accepted you back, @Jan?
works for me now
@JanDvorak I think it can be flagged for off-site-resource, but not sure :/
too-broad for me, I vtc'ed it
now I have 40 flags per day. I am getting better at it :D
08:45
Why is blog.so sending me a mobile view when opened in MxNitro?
SO wants you to S̰͇̞͎̫̞̘͓̍̂̏͋ͧ̆̔͗̅̌̍ͬ̆̓̍ͤ̚t̗̰̞̲̼̗̠̞̣͙̗̪ͦ͆ͥ͂ͥ̾a̗͚̟̣̜͇̖͈̮̲͑̊͆ͪy͔ͯ̾̓́ͩͩ͋ͨ̽̑̍̆̇̔ͬͭ̀ͬ‌​͚͓̞͖̣͇ ͍̫͉͇̩ͪ͊͒̔̿ͦ̽͗͐͗͒͒̈́͆̑ä̜̙̥̱̭̰ͧͤ̽̇w̱̜͖̼̰̲̱̠͔̣̣͍̦̼̭̍͗̑̓̈́ͩ͒̚ͅa̗̣̥ͮ̔͊̂ͨ̒̃̆̊̂̍͌ͤ͌́̊ͨ͑ͤ‌​̦̻̺̹̰̟̳̯̞͇ȳ͖̺̘̤̩̭̭̲̜͈̲̬͇̟̠͍ͬͦ̒̆̓̍̓͂͗̓͆̚
from MxNitro?
Y͌̌̈̈́ͥ́ͦͮ̾́̍̐eͣ̅ͤ͆̊sͪ̓̓ͪͯ̑ͫͥ̈́͒̽̌̆̌̌̎
08:53
t͗ͩͨ̓͆̏ͯͤ͛ͬ͑͌ͨ̂͊hͥͪ̽͗ͧ̎̚i̓ͫ̍̅͒ͯ̄̌ňͯ̒̊̍̒ͫͧ̓̄ͯͩ̉̏̈kͥ̄ͬ̔ͧ̀͗ͩͣͦ̎̃ͯi̿ͯͭͯ̑n̍͒ͤ̎̊͗͊͊̈͌‌​̎̍̉ͥ̈̋̚g̑ͯ͒́͑̒̍̈̒̉͛̇̑̾͋ͭ̔̐
lostsock's boom effect rubbed off on me too, I will stop now :(
well, rules apply to everyone. Sane humans, insane humans, smart robots, stupid robots... (ok, some bots are given an exception and may chat before reaching 20 rep) — Jan Dvorak 45 secs ago
except ducks
09:00
@InfiniteRecursion I wanna do that :D
A MSO post for Lightness's comment
Stack Overflow is not a helpdesk or personal support service. If you left this too late then that is no-one's fault but your own. Spend less time being offensive, telling people "if u dont have answer plz f*** off", and acting all entitled, and more time debugging your problem by forming a testcase. — Lightness Races in Orbit 19 mins ago
@ItachiUchiha didn't you copy that jutsu :P
@DroidDev I am not Kakashi :P
@ItachiUchiha What's stopping you?
@InfiniteRecursion any pointers on where to start ?
09:03
@ItachiUchiha Any Zalgo editor, try this one - www.zalgotext.net
@InfiniteRecursion I see what you did there :P
D̻͎̥͈̜̭̜̫̮͕̏͊ͩ͋̑̂́ͭͅͅr͔̮̙̲̟̞͇̺ͥ͌̄̅i̺͙̱̱̮͓̮͍͙͙̬̮͙̜̖̳̇͗̒͋ͬ̑͑ͫͯo̬̙̝̖̠̘̭̰͎̲̪͓ͭ̈̓ͧ͐͛ͅ‌​̻͇͙̫ͅd͍͓̰̭͉͓̑͒͛ͪͨͯͬ̿́̃̇̓̍̄ͪ̔D̜̝̮̣̹͙̲̫̳̺͍̣̱͗̆̒̎̐ͨ͆̔͛̈ͅe̘̘̮̹ͧ͛̊̌͌͒ͬͦ̉̓ͮͭvͩ̔ͥͦ̿͒ͥ̔̓̓‌​̝̻̤͙̖̲̖̤̟̺̪͕̞ͦ͆́̂̑̇
T̯̫̱͊͋͒́h̗̪̤͙̤̼̔͛̚e͊̾̅ͪI̩͉̜̞̔ͭͬ̒ͩͦ́t̐ͧͬ̾ͩͫa̬̖̼͂̚c̩̭͐̿̆̏̒ͫ́h͉̠̝͈͉̯ͨ̅̒ͫi̴̥͚ͪ̈́U̝͕ͫ͋‌​c͇̜̳̙̭͖̹̃̆͜h̛͕̓ͩͧ̑̋̓ĩ̪͇͟h͌ͫ̑̾͂͊̄҉̮̮a̵̠̬͇̪̮̫ͦ̊͒͂
Zalgos are overrated. Regex is the real magic.
/wat\?/
09:08
>:(
@AndrewT. delete it while you can
Nope too late
09:11
inb4 "Please stop linking to the anti-'"Zalgo" / Cthulhu regex rant' rant" MSE post
Slow down, you move too fast... You gotta make the morning last... — Shog9 ♦ 3 hours ago
@InfiniteRecursion thanks
(pretend the boiler-plate CV pls header was in these parenthesis, if you want) stackoverflow.com/q/25979865/3622940
pretends the boiler-plate CV pls header was in those parenthesis are invisible
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25990558/i-want-to-copy-all-image‌​s-from-my-whole-computer-to-a-single-folder
pretends the disclaimer isn't actually needed
@InfiniteRecursion /me wonders why I'm the only user voted to close for Too Broad
comes to report shouting, then notes Smokey is on
who has the deshouting script?
Is this NAA? It asks for clarification, but could be converted into an answer if poster bothers stackoverflow.com/a/25969096/3622940
@Unihedron do convert it then
debugging help without enough code stackoverflow.com/q/25981377/3622940
09:31
Beware of division by zero. Hint: never-dying player. — Andrew T. 3 mins ago
@Unihedron I see any answer that includes an answer as an answer. Whereas any question that asks for a tool is liable for cv for tool. If it includes an answer, it's an answer and should not be flagged as NAA. Yes, by all means edit it, but definetely don't flag it.
@lostsock Gotcha, thanks
> opportunities to move hurtful microorganisms into the framework
09:41
@JanDvorak The website they linked to is so lame, there are no advertisement banners and was outlaid as a blog, with no links to the product they're promoting either.
spam gone
@Unihedron why check?
bored...
Avoid clicking spam, they really aren't the kind of sites you should visit
Gotcha
@InfiniteRecursion closed thanks to @lostsock
Sam
Sam
09:45
Morning
Morning
Morning
Morning
Sam
Sam
Ah, I missed all the spam.

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