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user163250

00:17

It's very frustrating when you can't close a question because it has a bounty on it :P stackoverflow.com/questions/22636972/…

Vote to Close

01:06

@Cupcake Bountied questions shouldn't be closed in 99% of cases because it could be considered bail, where they have 7 days to receive an answer before they get locked up by the jurors.

user163250

@VotetoClose is that the official community stance on the matter?

Vote to Close

@Cupcake Not sure about official, but I like it that way as do others. You always have the option to flag for a moderator to look at it, and they can remove the bounty and close it, but I wouldn't do that unless it's a really really bad question bordering on spam or something.

That question is obviously very terrible, somewhat unanswerable, and very broad. But a decent answer could possibly come from it.. but probably not for a mere 50 bounty.

user163250

01:23

cv-pls, too broad and library recommendation stackoverflow.com/questions/14420754/isaac-cipher-in-php

ManishBot

02:02

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PARA QUE SERVER UM SELF JOIN? on pt.stackoverflow.com

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234870/…

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234871/…

Vote to Close

@JanDvorak thanks and done

hichris123

@Jan you're back! I have questions for you.

I'd like to improve the SmokeDetector regex.

Partially for the mSE spam, partially for other stuff.

Any suggestions?

Jan Dvorak

02:17

I have considered detecting weird capitalisation, but that only catches part of the spam

for now I'm just showing me every new meta post

Braiam

@JanDvorak poor thing

Jan Dvorak

how to close this? stackoverflow.com/questions/24501625/live-streaming-and-sse

hichris123

@JanDvorak Are there any other regex ideas you have for SmokeDetector?

Vote to Close

@JanDvorak unclear or broad

Jan Dvorak

no downvote from you?

Vote to Close

02:31

Already cast 45 votes today

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234872/…

@hichris123 if you can fetch the entire body of a question (an API key would be nice), I suggest making a gray-list

hichris123

@JanDvorak I think you can fetch part of the body from the websocket.

I wish we had a realtime answer websocket. :(

Jan Dvorak

without formatting, though

hichris123

yeah

ManishBot

02:55

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MS WORD BACKGROUND IMAGE on webapps.stackexchange.com

Braiam

@ManishBot Flag > OT > User is drunk, he's looking for SU

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO PROTUCT UBUNTU 10.04 GRUB WITH PASSWORD on askubuntu.com

Undo

03:12

SPAM: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234873/…

red tags no work? :(

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234874/hoe-to-skin-care

Braiam

@Undo Y U NO WORK (?)

status-Y-U-no-work

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/121025/…

Braiam

ok, that's cool

coolness intensifies

status-Y-U-NO-WORK

Final Contest

03:30

@balpha: I have further info to the bug reported yesterday. Let me know a way of discussing it if you are interested.

hichris123

03:41

SPAM: drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/121027/…

Final Contest

04:06

SO is down.

Jan Dvorak

04:39

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234876/personal-care-assistant

Jan Dvorak

05:29

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234878/your-questions-anymore

user163250

3 minutes.

user163250

Not bad.

user163250

I want to see 1 minute or less deletions though. Maybe...someday...

Jan Dvorak

SPAM webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/65532/…

Braiam

@JanDvorak that 404 image is cool

Jan Dvorak

05:40

It's not the page I've been looking for, apparently

Vote to Close

i kinda miss the @yourcommonsense fella

Jan Dvorak

why so?

Vote to Close

did so much work on SO, and just bam, suspended for a year, and no one knows why, had big personality, good drama, i don't know

cv-plz meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262087/…

Final Contest

06:08

VTC: Yes, he is a useful chap

Shadow Wizard

@VotetoClose why you like to be treated harshly?

Final Contest

@VTC: he probably contributed more useful content to the site than the majority of the whining people about him altogether.

Bart

And an equally "colourful" history to go with that.

Shadow Wizard

@FinalContest I am almost sure that even Jon Skeet will be suspended if he will go now and break the rules. Contributing helpful contents does not give one immunity.

Final Contest

@VTC: he is also a striking example (number 1) of the SE platform encouraging childish revenge for people based on names rather than posts. He got shitload of downvotes without explanation which is a LOT worse than the harsh, but valid comments, the n00bs whine about.

Having that said, he is still just the demo version of Linus Torvalds about harshness, anyway.

Bart

06:19

mumbles something about this going all the way back to the Col. Shrapnel days and how this might perhaps not be about a user being just a bit harsh

Final Contest

@VTC: a platform for encouraging unexplained "critics" is way worse (incomparably) than getting valid comments in harsh packaging.

Jan Dvorak

Could someone notify @FinalContest that he still hasn't explained a downvote he has made yesterday?

yesterday, by Final Contest

hmm, I made an 5K user fall under 5K by downvoting an answer to a clearly off-topic question: http://stackoverflow.com/a/24348309/2682142

Final Contest

I wish there were more YCSs, and much fewer crappy unexplaining and non-constructive downvoters.

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak no can do, he's ignoring me. (and likely 90% of the users in this room)

but now I also ignore him, just feels good. lol

Jan Dvorak

I'd like to see a screenshot of his avatar wall

Shadow Wizard

06:32

going to be very small, @Jan ;)

Jan Dvorak

:-D

Shadow Wizard

user image

user163250

07:07

Undelete please meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262093/…

user163250

It's useful information to know, I didn't know that you can't edit your profile while suspended.

Final Contest

sigh

why on earth do people downvote such things?

it is a completely useful post for the site.

I am shocked.

@Cupcake: I gave the third undelete vote and then a +1.

user163250

Yay! Thanks!

Stijn

@FinalContest by request of @JanDvorak, apparently you need to explain a downvote here: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2150232#2150232

it would be a lot easier if you lot weren't all ignoring eachother :)

Jan Dvorak

I'm not ignoring him :-) even though I do strongly consider doing so.

Final Contest

07:21

@Stijn: may I ask you not to forward any post from him, please?

(he is ignored for a reason)

@Stijn: but if you really want to get the answer yourself, here it goes:

@JanDvorak: your off-topic comment just shows again your complete ignorance, it was discussed in comments, but after the discussions I decided not to spam many posts from the user with the same negative comment, but he got the point. I would suggest to ask for more information when you clearly lack it rather than strongly stating false statements. — Final Contest 4 mins ago

@Cerbrus: Sigh, check who posted an off-topic comment first with personally offending someone due to lack of information. Do you seriously think I should not reply to such public offense and accept that lying? I will not, sorry. What he said is simple false, and he could have even asked the OP whether we discussed it. — Final Contest 2 mins ago

Jan Dvorak

sigh

Final Contest

tl;dr: he makes wild and strong claims in ignorance (or lack of information if you like)

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DIVO RCE PROBLE M/CH ILD PR OBLEM SO LVE 9001340118 on english.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 You could make the phone number detector more aggressive.

Bart

Where is @gnomeslice? I need listenings!

user163250

07:27

Sweet! 2 minutes! :D

user163250

Listenings? You like music recommendations?

user163250

By the way, @JanDvorak, did you really have to go engage Final Contest on that Meta question? You two left a huge mess in the comments :P

Final Contest

@Cupcake: and people ask why he is ignored.

Stijn

@FinalContest sure, it's just that he had asked a couple of times already :)

Final Contest

he was doing similar things yesterday.

@Cupcake: btw, right after his post, I flagged the whole potential conversation for removal.

@Stijn: none of your business, I guess :)

and this habit will not get him unignored either.

Bart

07:30

All of you, go to your respective corners and don't get out until a mod tells you to. And no pointing or sticking out tongues either. Geez.

Final Contest

ah, the casette is stuck again with that...

:D

Jan Dvorak

@Cupcake I'm not happy about Final's initial comment there, but I do promise I'll stop engaging like this.

user163250

<eyeroll>

user163250

You know what chat needs?

user163250

Skype emoticons.

Jan Dvorak

07:32

sorry

user163250

The animated kind.

Jan Dvorak

gif's?

user163250

Sure, those will do.

Jan Dvorak

Please do note who's primarily engaging in that comment thread ATM, though ;-)

user163250

Oh? Let me see...

Bart

07:34

Is it me @JanDvorak?

Jan Dvorak

nope. Cerbrus keeps trying to scorn Final, which I find totally understandable.

Final Contest

@Cupcake: yay, 3 downvotes.

user163250

I couldn't find something animated. I found something non-animated, but it's probably copyrighted by Skype, so I'm not going to post it.

Jan Dvorak

All of them unexplained.

Final Contest

there should be an option to remove meta if you want to use Stack Overflow; it is just such a crappy place, that is. It is not like everyone should be forced to come across it.

user163250

07:37

Oh, funny thing you should say that...

user163250

6

Q: Provide a setting to hide Meta posts in the Community Bulletin

Please provide an option to hide just Meta posts in the Community Bulletin from me. I still want to see Stack Overflow Blog posts though, because I want to stay up-to-date on new features and stuff. Jeff was right. Meta Is Murder. I've decided that I don't really want to participate in Meta all ...

feature-request status-declined community-bulletin

Final Contest

That is just halfway-through ;)

you would still have the meta icon in profile.

user163250

Oh, but it would be so much less distracting though!

Final Contest

meta became the crappiest SE place where you can now downvote for free without even losing rep or any need to comment. If you think this site is not about content, and you dislike someone, you can go ahead and downvote all teh things.

user163250

Although, I think the newest updates to the bulletin help.

Bart

07:39

Or you could, you know, just stay away @FinalContest. For someone who hates the place so much, and finds it necessary to ignore half the chat room as well, you spend an awefull lot of time on meta and its chat.

user163250

The new font seems to de-emphasize the Meta posts now, so they aren't as eye-catching as they were.

Jan Dvorak

Hmm... userscript could help ignoring the other half

Final Contest

@Cupcake: nice :D

Jan Dvorak

@l4mpi: you clearly completely ignored the documentation he gave which says activities you are suspended from and profile editing is not one of them. The whole point is about making the documentation clearer and that is a completely valid feature request. Please read the post carefully before commenting on it. How is that non-obvious? — Final Contest 1 min ago

look who's ignorant now :-)

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SQLCODE -181 THE STRING REPRESENTATION OF A DATETIME VALUE IS NOT A VALID DATETIME VALUE on stackoverflow.com

user163250

07:56

Does ManishBot really have to point out questions that are 2 months old to us?

Jan Dvorak

@Cupcake he can't see the original age

user163250

Ah. It was active today. I see.

Jan Dvorak

more exactly, it was active just when the bot posted it

user163250

I can't tell if the error message in the question was originally generated in all-caps, or if the OP only made them that way after the fact.

user163250

Meh, I give up trying to edit it :P

user163250

08:00

Apparently OP finally figured out his problem though, good for him.

Shadow Wizard

meta-crap meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234883/…

Final Contest

@Cupcake: is that a troll who downvotes even when he agrees just based on names? :p

Jan Dvorak

No, you do not. Read the answer carefully and your post. But really, from on, you are completely ignored. I do not need personal trolls, sorry. — Final Contest 19 secs ago

is @FinalContest trying to tell me what I agree with? Should I try responding to that?

Bart

@JanDvorak nah, just stop. Spend your time on better things.

This is not heading anywhere positive for the both of you

Final Contest

@Stijn: since you did him a favour last time, do me a favour, too. Tell him he is completely ignored from now on in every way possible.

Bart

08:11

@FinalContest nobody cares, if you have something to say do say it yourself. If not, just stop all the petty nonsense the both of you. Freaking hell, kids.

Shadow Wizard

Rule #60938: never engage with the Laszlo. It will always end in tears.

Final Contest

(and obviously will not reply to any of the forwarded messages)

I will reconsider this decision in one year (2015.07).

Shadow Wizard

@Bart you know he's not seeing this, right?

Jan Dvorak

wait, is Bart ignored as well? Since when?

Bart

At this point I don't give a <expletive> @ShadowWizard.

Jan Dvorak

08:13

wait, is "flying duck" an euphemism for something?

Shadow Wizard

@Jan shortly after me, if I'm not mistaken. @Bart I know, and so do I, just saying in case you didn't know. :)

Final Contest

let us give more work to moderators for disassociation

Bart

@ShadowWizard I'm am highly tempted though to for once really use a chat flag and put an end to all the incessant whining going on.

Jan Dvorak

Well, either I try to explain my votes and end up in tears, or I give Final yet another unexplained downvote with his next answer I disagree with, or I refrain from voting. #2 doesn't sound too bad, actually.

Bart

@JanDvorak Nah, just jumbled letters. It's obviously just a cute way to write "dying fluck". ... wait, that doesn't make sense.

Shadow Wizard

08:16

@Bart flag what? he's not saying anything offensive as far as I can tell.

Bart

I'm not saying it's a good flag

Shadow Wizard

all you'll do is piss off a team member who will have to come and clear the flag, @Bart. ;(

Bart

Now you make it sound even more tempting :p

Jan Dvorak

@Bart ...

Shadow Wizard

@Bart ...

Jan Dvorak

08:17

are you trying to annoy a moderator, @Bart? Why?

Bart

I deny any such things

I would never

hover ...

Shadow Wizard

@Bart I have an idea. Use someone as your shield again. Who'll be the victim this time? :D

Stijn

I heard @Shadow wants to volunteer as your shield, @Bart

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak #2 isn't good practice, you let him win. If you don't agree with something on Meta site, downvote. Don't walk on egg shells. :)

@Stijn noooooooo /me goes hiding/

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard #2 = unexplained votes. Not voting is #3

Shadow Wizard

08:21

@JanDvorak oh, thought you mean refrain from voting

oh, explain votes is #1. I see now.

Final Contest

I do not think he needs a shield, Stijn, he just says his own opinion. Last time, he shouted at TGMC... when he posted a cv-pls. I got really disappointed with him doing that to a polite and friendly guy as TGMC is.

Jan Dvorak

I don't remember Bart doing that. I'd like to see a cite link.

Final Contest

I really do not understand why he is so negative towards people who are willing to help. I have never brought this up because I kept silent there, but I was embarrassed inside.

Shadow Wizard

hooray! :D

Jan Dvorak

parenting?

Shadow Wizard

08:24

19 hours ago, by Bart

In fact, I pushed Tim into being the target by pointing him at that user. I basically used him as my human/monkey shield.

@JanDvorak yup. And the funny part is the post bringing me that power was about urinating. LOL

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard oh. I was referring to accusations from Final.

still, an interesting strategy

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak yeah, but fits Bart perfectly :)

Jan Dvorak

I can't serve as a human shield from Final, though, because he already hates me :-)

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak oh, I meant shield from the angry team coming in to clear his flags.

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: AJAX GO TO PAGE PASSING DATA on stackoverflow.com

Final Contest

08:33

I wonder if there is a more significant sign of downvote trolls when they downvote even if they agree. I am trying to think, but I cannot think of anything worse.

(this I have never experienced before)

user163250

> All-caps title: AJAX GO TO PAGE PASSING DATA on stackoverflow.com

user163250

What the hell?

user163250

I've seen that before.

user163250

On another question.

user163250

I think it's the same guy.

user163250

08:39

I remember editing the title of the other question to be all lower-case :P

Final Contest

May I ask the reason for this post getting 5 downvotes within, say 5 minutes?

meta.stackoverflow.com/a/262096/2682142

It says the blog post was inaccurate and will probably be not fixed, but in an ideal world all the required information could be mentioned.

I think it got more downvotes quicker than any of the spam posts, pretty much.

and I just do not know why that is a so negative post.

user163250

Oh, it's actually the same question by that guy, I guess he deleted it before I could finish my edit.

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: hi, nice to see you back. I got unexplained downvotes even for bugreports yesterday against meta (of course unexplained). :)

Shadow Wizard

@Cupcake yup.

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: and this guy got several, too, for an honest question: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262093/…

Shadow Wizard

08:41

> Post Deleted by Cristian Capannini
> occurred 17 hours ago

Final Contest

the crap does not change here, sadly.

Shadow Wizard

@AnnaLear thanks!

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest Aloah - Last week I was on a work break and I keept myself away from anything that could remember me VS and SharePoint

Final Contest

:D

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist you could hide in my Den you know. It's clean and discrete. :D

Final Contest

08:48

@SPArchaeologist: btw, the qt tag is similar to SP, it is also not frequently visited.

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard Actually, I had used the spare time between one concert and the other to almost complete watching Season Two.

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist nice! what series?

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: I am not sure how to handle it, but I started deleting my useful and IMHO well-thought answers lately that get unexplained downvotes.

@SPArchaeologist: since qt answers usually get 1-2 votes if they are not tad easy and obvious, so it is hard to get well-thought answers getting upvotes.

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest Lose/Lose situation there, keep deleting and you may incur in an answer ban

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: that would be a huge loss for SO, so I do not think they will do it.

and eventually, I am completely entitled to delete my own answers. There is on rule against that.

especially if they get downvotes (even if unexplained)

SPArchaeologist

08:52

@FinalContest It's an automated behaviour, they don't control it

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: I am not deleting them within a couple of minutes, but when they get downvotes (unexplained).

but to be frank, I could not care less about it anyway, I am looking into new opportunities where this revenge behavior is absent and basically ban-worthy.

Jan Dvorak

Is Final migrating to Y/A?

SPArchaeologist

@JanDvorak Does Y/A stands for what I fear? as in Yahoo Answers?

Jan Dvorak

Y/A = Yahoo Answers

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: do you see any issue with this answer?

-5

A: Why can't we edit our profile while our account is temporarily suspended?

I think the reason was a simple oversight when writing the blog post. I do not think it has changed ever since. In an ideal world, it should have been read like this: You will be unable to vote, ask, answer, comment, edit your profile, etc. where etc means all the other things. However, it ...

Shadow Wizard

09:03

@JanDvorak lovely site

Bart

Are you really interested in understanding an issue @FinalContest?

@JanDvorak what did I do this time?

Jan Dvorak

@Bart I've heard some claims about shouting on a user for posting a cv-pls link

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest Time paradox. You react to the downvote by telling them to actually read the question because they are answering their own mind-created version and they downvote you because you told them to read

self substained time loop

Bart

@JanDvorak ah, that debacle. Meh, just a bunch of links being posted in rapid succession that were already on their way out. I.e nothing to vote on any more if you visited them. I think I asked him to stop and he got upset with that.

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest could also be explained by the network data traveling in opposite direction around the globe.

Jan Dvorak

09:16

@SPArchaeologist :-D

SPArchaeologist

@JanDvorak If a man can gain a day by going east, a packet should be able to gain some second :P

Jan Dvorak

133ms if traveling at the speed of light along a great circle, to be exact. If we assume 2/3 c (metal), that's 200ms. Plus routing delays.

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: hmm?

SPArchaeologist

@JanDvorak You realize you have just given a serious answer to a Pinkie style joke? :P

Bart

09:32

Jan is always serious

Final Contest

is there a way to ignore all the posts that mention the ignored user here like on IRC?

Bart

Nope

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest I was referencint to the standard time travel loop error. A does B because of C and later C is caused because A did B

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SQL PROCEDURE PERFORMANCE RECOMMENDATIONS on codereview.stackexchange.com

Bart

Ah, I guess I'm on the ignore list, right. Can someone else answer @FinalContest's question?

Sigh, would be so much easier to see who is ignoring you :D

Final Contest

09:44

@SPArchaeologist: ah, the revenge thing.

Jan Dvorak

@Bart Indeed. Are you going to post a feature request?

Bart

Don't want to give balpha more work. ;)

Jan Dvorak

I don't think I can get this information, but I can turn some user-driven guesswork into a memory + UI

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: the funny thing is that the guy's answer was completely incorrect

and now he updated based on my answer and comment, which I appreciate, yet one person with one name is getting shitload of upvotes, whereas the other person where the meaning was copied from shitload of downvotes. If this is healthy, I am a helicopter.

Jan Dvorak

:buys anti-air missiles:

:locks them to the Lazslo helicopter:

Shadow Wizard

09:53

kaboom!

Final Contest

"Moving the discussion to chat failed" -> WTF

Jan Dvorak

I don't think I should be tracking who's ignoring me. I should be tracking all ignores

Final Contest

let us see how far two almost equal content can go with vote differences based on two different names. I use this case as a show-case for future references.

SPArchaeologist

?

(Missing http. )

Final Contest

:D

pink is my favourite color actually ;)

@SPArchaeologist: haha, I just got downvotes on other meta posts "all of a sudden" without explanation.

even for posts that had 815 scores from someone else on old meta :D

oh boy, what would we do without these people on meta

3ventic

10:07

be happier?

Final Contest

@balpha: I found another bug in the system (relatively severe) if you are interested.

I have screenshot and some more information, too.

balpha

Sure, please post it on meta.

Final Contest

I will not, so then let it go.

Bart

:D that was predictable

Final Contest

I am happy to discuss it in private, email, etc, but not on meta. If that is the only way, it is better to let it go.

(unless it can be posted anonymously right from the beginning and/or the votes can be entirely locked)

Shadow Wizard

10:13

If @FinalContest means the "Moving the discussion to chat failed" then it happens when there are more than two users posting comments, it was reported before on MSE but can't find it now.

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest Sell the bug to Expert Exchange! O_O

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist blasphemy!

Final Contest

you mean bugs? I have two within one day which will get lost.

@SPArchaeologist: shall we request a DownvoteOverflow subsite? :-)

the rule would be that you get reputation for downvotes and you can have unlimited of them per day. :D

and it would be forbidden to comment if you downvote.

and if you earn enough reputation, your downvote can weight more than 1 in the negative direction. :D

and you could flag the good posts to get into the high-quality review queue

Jan Dvorak

10:38

should we try to undelete this?

Bart

Why @JanDvorak? Not a great everlasting post to begin with.

Jan Dvorak

true. I thought, it was deleted for the wrong reason.

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest Already working on My Little Stack.

Main rule would be that every post should contain at least one FiM reference

Jan Dvorak

10:59

is there anything objectively wrong with this old answer of mine?

Shadow Wizard

11:15

@JanDvorak no, it will just bring more flames and agony. It shouldn't have been posted to begin with, as its OP is not really seeking any real discussion.

Jan Dvorak

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/848645/sending-email-in-java

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak voted, but please don't delete. I'm not in favor of deleting all old questions on Stack Overflow.

Jan Dvorak

The answers are link-only, though. There won't be much left after they are deleted

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/24504752/…

how do I review a question that should be closed, but my vote has already expired? Skip?

Final Contest

:D

Shadow Wizard

Wait, does it mean @FinalContest not ignoring you, @Jan? How lucky!

@JanDvorak yeah, think Skip is about the only possible action

Jan Dvorak

11:27

It's not even worth an Edit, I think

Shadow Wizard

You mean the review you linked to? I voted to close, for what it's worth.

Jan Dvorak

I do

SPArchaeologist

2

Q: StackPlonk: plonk users you don't want to help anymore

Screenshot / Code Snippet About If you really don't want to help some user anymore, go to his profile page, and click the Plonk button next to his name. Every question of this user will then have a big warning Don't answer: this user is plonked. You may always unplonk the user by cli...

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist userscripts.org is dead, so it's not possible to install it anymore

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard sorry for forgetting that. But I stant correct :P

userscripts.org:8080/scripts/show/122583

the above post is missing the port ^_^

Shadow Wizard

11:39

@SPArchaeologist so we need to add the port to hundreds of posts on stackapps.com but anyway I have a feeling it's just a backdoor that would soon be closed as well.

Bart

Coincidence? (rofl)

Link-only answers are not good, but in this case, it is even better to close the question and not to feed it. — Final Contest 14 mins ago

At least it contains an explanation I guess.

Final Contest

@SPArchaeologist: heh.

@Bart: do not be afraid. It is just my opinion. If it is a top-quality post for a good question, it will get upvoted over time rofl.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/5945124/…

Bart

12:00

Don't worry @FinalContest. I won't lose sleep over it. It's just that one might think that someone who worries so much about being targeted might be targeting some people himself. Just might. Could of course be that said person randomly happened upon those old posts.

And am I not on your ignore list? How disappointing ...

Final Contest

@Bart: that is an interesting way of saying thank you for the cleanup activity.

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard I have savaged the split vote script, i am fine with that.

Final Contest

@Bart: Also, I have never said anything about being targetted with help. I would definitely appreciate help. What I was always saying is unexplained downvote. Did you get one here? Nope. Is the comment valid? IMHO, yes, but 5 further people will decide like in the case of your other post. In fact, I was the only one giving you a downvote reason there.

Even more, I did not only downvote your post, nor was this the only one I commented on. I have come across the question and I made the corresponding useful contribution. In fact, I am more concerned about that off-topic question to be closed. It is surprising to me that you have not even cast a close vote on that.

Shadow Wizard

Behold the power of Low Quality review! Answer by answer, bit by bit, all old answers are doomed to deletion.

Anyone got a better answer to this? I did my best, but not sure he got the point.

-1

A: Is the Stack Overflow source code available?

StackOverflow is awesome because of the numbers of amazing and helpful guys using it. Why make it open-source and scatter this group? You don't need your own installation of SO. You only need its URL.

ManishBot

12:27

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TRAVEL TO USA FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT FROM UK on travel.stackexchange.com

Final Contest

12:44

-6

Q: \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n

<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

c# windows-services

SPArchaeologist

@FinalContest edit war on the loose

Final Contest

Yep.

Vote to Close

bluefeet saved the day

@FinalContest who's negative?

Final Contest

13:04

@VotetoClose: the negative numbers

terdon

13:22

in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 21 mins ago, by rlemon

any mods (on SO) able to lend a hand for a minute? (I know this isn't really the place to be looking, but I see blue!)

in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 20 mins ago, by rlemon

tl;dr it appears someone has a script randomly staring then unstaring messages in this chat room http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/17/javascript - looking at the ws we've pretty well determined who it is as well.

Oh, and there he is.

Braiam

13:34

cv-pls-too-broad stackoverflow.com/q/701166/792066

user163250

13:49

@AnnaLear was the grace period for accepting answers in-flight to closed questions shortened from 4 hours ever? I seem to recall reading something like that on Meta SO (or MSE), but I can't seem to find the relevant post anywhere, even after searching on both metas.

user163250

Maybe I'm just lying to myself and it never existed :/

Final Contest

14:03

@Cupcake: gave my last cv today to that

user163250

@JanDvorak that answer wasn't that old, plus that was a really terrible question. Yet you bothered to answer it anyways :P

Jan Dvorak

@Cupcake Point taken. It's also a near-duplicate of the other answer. Gone, thanks.

Vote to Close

is this an appropriate display name? stackoverflow.com/users/1176436/stackoverflowed

Jan Dvorak

@VotetoClose why do you mind?

Vote to Close

14:18

very uncreative...

Jan Dvorak

"boring" isn't a flag reason

4

Bart

@VotetoClose that users gets a 3 from the Russian jury member. It would have been a 4, but there was a small hiccup on landing.

But that's all

Vote to Close

some people even just have stackoverflow data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/11255/…

Jan Dvorak

"this user name tries to be funny but it fails miserably (IMO). Please change it to something that doesn't try to be funny"

Vote to Close

this one is good though stackoverflow.com/users/3132403/istackoverflow since adding i in front of any word makes it cool and hip

Lynn Crumbling

14:26

Ugh. If at first you don't succeed.... Just leave another answer. stackoverflow.com/users/3767289/…

At what point does my downvoting trigger the serial detector. I hit all three answers in the one question...

Bart

Why post a single item of crap when you have so much more crap to give?

user image

Lynn Crumbling

nice.

SPArchaeologist

mumble...

Jan Dvorak

@LynnCrumbling The details of the detector are deliberately not exposed. But do you think that a moderator should swoop down and delete most of the answers?

Vote to Close

flag? stackoverflow.com/users/2275568/fuckthissite

SPArchaeologist

14:29

Should I report Microsoft.SharePoint.dll as a virus to Kaspersky labs?

Lynn Crumbling

@JanDvorak re: the detector: yep, it was rhetorical.

Jan Dvorak

@VotetoClose yep

Lynn Crumbling

@JanDvorak I'm still trying to decide if he's actually bringing anything to the question. Should all of those answers just be converted to comments?

Jan Dvorak

Seems to me he doesn't know he can edit

Lynn Crumbling

@JanDvorak That's a reasonable conclusion.

Bart

14:33

Yeah, I guess a simple "I see you have posted multiple answer while getting to understand the question. Are you aware you can edit your answers?" could suffice as a comment.

SPArchaeologist

15:01

Quick opinion

should I just delete this?

0

Q: Understanding app domains and module initializer workings

I am currently experimenting/evaluating usage of Costura Fody to embed assembly references inside a C# library project (to be more specific, I am trying to wrap entity framework dependencies as embedded resource in my assembly). I have managed to make all work correctly in a standard web applicat...

.net appdomain fody-costura clr-module-initializer

I fear it is just to specific for a question

Bart

I see no harm in leaving it there

Templar

http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5193425
why i got 2 rejects? i think i removed unnecessary and repeating information thats why it became shorter and perhaps conveyed information more clearly

Bart

"ooh, there is lots of green and red. That must be too much". Or something like that. :) There are still some minor things I would have tackled. And your edit description is not great. But the "radical change" is not something I get from it.

Templar

15:17

actually i almost always write same description :S

Final Contest

yay, unexplained downvotes started to come on Stack Overflow. Seems, someone began another round of revenge. It is nice to post on meta.

Always two unexplained downvotes in a row, never three, never one and this is repeating.

actually it was three downvotes within a couple of minutes twice last month, but it was not caught by the automatic script.

SPArchaeologist

And then you wonder how can someone have fun harsing other people gameplay on most online morpg. Here they are having fun clicking a down arrow.

Final Contest

:D

@SPArchaeologist: I guess they do not have the proper tools in place to catch those... I mean it is not a one or two-time issue. It has been going on for months now :)

and then people complain when I give a downvote for valid and unexplained reasons every now and then. :D

anyway, two other upvoted and valid answers going to the trash soon ;)

SPArchaeologist

15:38

@FinalContest as said before, lose/lose situation

Final Contest

exactly!

rlemon

stackoverflow.com/posts/24222844/revisions @Mods this is the user who has been running a star bot in the JS room.

both accounts.

user image

it is easy to determine who the offenders are

bluefeet

@rlemon we're looking

rlemon

thankyou

people had mentioned he might have left it on by "Accident", but after the first account was suspended this one pops up in short order. so I can safely assume he wasn't AFK and just ignoring the mods plea for him to shut it off.

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