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Manishearth

16:00

It can be extended for renaming as well

your choice

hichris123

@Undo Easy to configure the tag?

Undo

goes to GitHub

@hichris123 Yeah.

hichris123

Yayz!

Undo

@Manishearth @hichris123 transferred to Charcoal-SE/tag-nukificator

Manishearth

yay

I'll add renaming func to it if I get bored today

Undo

16:02

yay!

Development-3:xcode-nukificator admin$ php nukificator.php
Access token needed (to perform the nuking). Please go to erwaysoftware.com/oauth to get an access token.
Enter access token: zSeKrItsEkRiTZA))
validating token...
Your token looks good. Wonderful.

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    Make Presentation With Xcode and Terminal

I need to make a presentation on objective C.
I saw in some tutorials something spectacular and so useful that I would use.
Basically we just show the code, and through the command line show parts that are hidden initially…

@hichris123 ^ Really easy to configure tag :D

hichris123

@Undo I know what I'm going to do now. :P

Undo

Go through [eclipse]?

hichris123

Yeah, [eclipse], [market], etc.

Avinash Raj

may i delete this?

Undo

hehe

hichris123

16:05

@Undo Can we add tags from it?

Undo

no

not yet.

and I would advise you to check your activity for a while, and make sure it's making the revisions right.

I don't fully trust it yet.

The Wobbuffet

@Undo Is that an app store app?

Undo

@TheWobbuffet No, it's a PHP script thing.

rene

@AvinashRaj Yes, it is your answer, isn't it?

The Wobbuffet

Oh

Because Charcoal is still Waiting for Review

Bart

16:09

Nice logo

The Wobbuffet

I didn't make it :P

hichris123

@Undo I'll work on making that happen, then... :P

The Wobbuffet

@Doorknob Did

With 3 button clicks

@hichris123 And I'll add it to the new app version

As well as finding edits and such...

A remake of the review tab

Sarabjeet

heyy

hichris123

@Undo Um... /oauth doesn't really work...

Manishearth

16:19

@Undo I tried to add renaming capabilities. Could you test it?

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 What 'dyou mean?

I use oauth in the Charcoal app

It redirects you to a domain and it's like &access_token=code

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet It's a page on his site that you use to get an OAuth token.

The Wobbuffet

Oh

It doesn't work, then?

Well, his site is kind of messed up...

Undo

@TheWobbuffet Huh wha?

@hichris123 As in?

Manishearth

@Undo oy oy oy

The Wobbuffet

16:25

You said it yourself

It says an app is coming soon even though it's already out

Manishearth

I probably borked things. Better make sure I didn't :p

Undo

@TheWobbuffet Oh, yeah.

The Wobbuffet

:P

Undo

I'm gonna rebuild it from scratch some day.

The Wobbuffet

I did that with my site

It's empty right now except for like 5 words

Manishearth

16:26

A wild dev appears!

hichris123

@Undo Blank screen of death. :P

@Undo Does it actually, you know, work?

Undo

uh-oh

@hichris123 It works for me...

It uses php's header() to redirect you to SE's oauth page.

The Wobbuffet

Why does your site have oauth?

Oh

I'm confused

hichris123

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Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$items in C:\Downloads\tag-nukificator-master\tag-nukificator-master\nukificator.php on line 45

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\Downloads\tag-nukificator-master\tag-nukificator-master\nukificator.php on line 48
PHP Notice:  Undefined property: stdClass::$items in C:\Downloads\tag-nukificator-master\tag-nukificator-master\nukificator.php on line 45
PHP Warning:  Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\Downloads\tag-nukificator-master\tag-nukificato…

@Undo ^

Undo

@hichris123 No brackets around the tag.

The Wobbuffet

16:29

@Undo It should at least catch an exception

Undo

I never said it was ready to sell or anything :P

Laszlo Papp

does a thread get bumped on meta if I edit my answer to fix silly typos?

The Wobbuffet

Do people just join chat to ask questions?

GnomeSlice

@TheWobbuffet It's funny because this is a question.

Undo

@TheWobbuffet Yes...

The Wobbuffet

16:30

You really like getting to the point, @LaszloPapp

I wouldn't run to a Tavern to ask a question

hichris123

@Undo Same error without.

Undo

Eh?

@hichris123 PHP version?

hichris123

@Undo Um... latest?

Undo

run php --version

SPArchaeologist

ufff. Just realized that the AVGN game is out, and realized it's only on Steam.

Drm-go-to-hell

GnomeSlice

16:31

@SPArchaeologist It's been out for some time now.

But yes, Steam-only.

hichris123

5.5.8 @Undo

Undo

huh

@Manishearth did you break it?

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice yep, and I hate that. Drm should die a slow and painful death.

hichris123

It's on Windows...

Manishearth

@Undo um...maybe?

I can't test it right now

rene

16:32

@LaszloPapp Looks like it, this question is now on the frontopage due to this revision

Manishearth

probably shoulda branched it

hichris123

@Undo It's from before Manish's stuff.

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist Yeah, I really don't like the monopoly Steam has on the distribution market.

Undo

oh. I dunno.

The Wobbuffet

@Manishearth What did you do..?

GnomeSlice

16:33

It's at the point now where it's nearly impossible for developers to make money on their games if they can't get onto Steam.

Laszlo Papp

rene: thanks!

Manishearth

@TheWobbuffet Added tag replace functionality

The Wobbuffet

@GnomeSlice I make like 10 cents a day from my app

hichris123

@Undo What extentions does it need?

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice I don't like drm, not just steam. The whole "give paying users some bloat to run while the crack runs drm free" is bull...

GnomeSlice

16:34

@SPArchaeologist Yeah.

@SPArchaeologist I can give you some DRM-Free alternative games if you like.

Similiar to that one

Undo

@hichris123 cURL is nice, I think

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist Operation Smash is currently 89% off on IndieGameStand. Similar kind of game, from what I've read about the AVGN game (metroidvania).

Undo

That should be it.

GnomeSlice

I've played it. It's pretty good.

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice Thanks for the offer, would appreciate that. Anyway with the nerd one the thing is that I actually follow his web episodes

hichris123

16:36

@Undo It messes up on this line: $questions = $obj->{"items"};. Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$items.

Undo

That means the request failed.

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist Oh. Well I guess it's more about that than the gameplay then. :P

Undo

Did you give it a good access token?

hichris123

I don't know... it's been saying that it's good, and then it says it's bad. :P

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist Most of the stuff in the IndieGameStand store is DRM-Free. For some reason they've allowed Topware to sell steam-only games there, but everything else is DRM-Free.

hichris123

16:37

Fixy erwaysoftware.com/oauth plz?

Undo

@hichris123 What's wrong with it? It works for me...

@hichris123 Do you have redirects disabled in your browser or something?

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice gameplay + citations. Just the pit scene with the lava, the flaming sharks and the upside down volcanoes only would sell me for full price. If there was a boxed version.

(or a drm free download)

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected,Phone number detected: inter caste LOVE marriage specialist baba ji+91-9166007251 on gaming.stackexchange.com

hichris123

@Undo Nope... Chrome. Just gives blank screen.

SPArchaeologist

(just leave out the steam client, I don't need other bloat. I have sharepoint.)

Manishearth

16:38

@ManishBot spammmmmmmmm

hichris123

@Undo It shows a red part in Dev Tools for the redirect to SE.

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist Also Bean's Quest looks similar.

hichris123

That was fast... 52 seconds. :P

Jan Dvorak

aaand gone

Manishearth

Guys, 45 seconds. Wicked fast response time! :D

(I was refreshing)

GnomeSlice

16:39

Desura does have a client like Steam, but everything on Desura is DRM-Free. You don't even have to use the client.

hichris123

@Manishearth ManishBot works. :P

Undo

@hichris123 What's the red part say?

hichris123

Refused to display 'https://stackexchange.com/oauth?scope=write_access&client_id=2623&redirect_uri=erwaysoftware.com/oauth/index.php'; in a frame because it set 'X-Frame-Options' to 'SAMEORIGIN'.

Undo

@ManishBot Has the war started again?

hichris123

Um... what?

Undo

16:40

@hichris123 Oh, try www.erwaysoftware.com/oauth

@hichris123 spam war

hichris123

@Undo I know, I meant the error. :P Your message got in between it.

The Wobbuffet

@Undo Try whateverorigin.org

Undo

@TheWobbuffet Not the problem.

hichris123

@Undo Yeah, that works.

The Wobbuffet

@Undo The problem is the same-origin policy, I'm sure

hichris123

16:42

validating token...
Your token looks good. Wonderful.

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    Eclipse 4 RCP Deployment applicationXMI argument missing

Fatal error: Call to undefined function mb_substr() on line 52
PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mb_substr() on line 52

Undo

@TheWobbuffet No, the problem is GoDaddy (ugh) putting erwaysoftware.com in an iframe.

hichris123

@Undo ^

Undo

Uhmm...

Hmmm...

hichris123

:P

Undo

I bet there's an extension that includes mb_substr()

The Wobbuffet

16:42

@Undo Godaddy does that?

hichris123

;extension=php_mbstring.dll
;extension=php_exif.dll      ; Must be after mbstring as it depends on it

@Undo yep.

Undo

yay!

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice seems nice. Could provide a distraction between one death and the next when Dark Soul 2 comes.

GnomeSlice

Heh

hichris123

@Undo Yay, it works!

The Wobbuffet

16:44

Almost done with first homework... then I must do 6 more homeworks

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist But yeah, if you ever want some DRM-Free game recommendations, hit me up.

I'm really into the indie game scene

Undo

@hichris123 Woohoo! :D

hichris123

@Undo Um...:

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice just promise you won't try to trick me into trying "the you testament" like that friend of mine did.

hichris123

removing [eclipse] tag...
Warning: file_get_contents(): Unable to find the wrapper "https" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? on line 86

Warning: file_get_contents(api.stackexchange.com/2.2/questions/21834149/edit): failed to open stream: Invalid argument on line 86

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GnomeSlice

16:45

@SPArchaeologist The what?

SPArchaeologist

"The You Testament"

@GnomeSlice that is the actual name

The Wobbuffet

The biggest mistake I did was making a JS bot that spams the government database giving the command to "nuke
Japan"

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice do not goggle it. do not download it. Do not play it

GnomeSlice

Never heard of it.

Probably for good reason.

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice then you have still a chance

forget this discussion

forget I mentioned it

GnomeSlice

16:46

Heh

The Wobbuffet

@SPArchaeologist You told him not to download it

SPArchaeologist

@TheWobbuffet yes, but most people do the opposite. The nerd suggested no one ever play Mr hide and still someone had to.

GnomeSlice

►

I need

The Wobbuffet

Me, too

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice It... is ... wonderfull.

GnomeSlice

16:50

The first playable alpha is coming soon.

hichris123

There we go! Fixed it @Undo.

GnomeSlice

Best party game ever

The Wobbuffet

@GnomeSlice What platforms is it playable on?

GnomeSlice

Let me check.

Windows, Mac, and Linux.

indiedb.com/games/gangbeasts

The Wobbuffet

How is that multiplayer?

GnomeSlice

16:51

Oh snap, they got the downloads up for the alpha

indiedb.com/games/gangbeasts/downloads

@TheWobbuffet What do you mean?

The Wobbuffet

I mean, more than one people play it at a time, right?

GnomeSlice

Yeah.

The Wobbuffet

How on one tiny keyboard?

GnomeSlice

You use controllers.

The Wobbuffet

Wha?

What controllers?

GnomeSlice

16:52

> with keyboard and generic USB controller support

XBOX 360 controller for Windows is the most common.

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice you saw this one? youtube.com/watch?v=VOZRzwlzQeA

The Wobbuffet

I don't have an XBOX or a XBOX 360 controller

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist I watched all of them.

The Wobbuffet

But I can connect my wii remote via bluetooth and use it to control keys

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/19033552/…

GnomeSlice

16:54

You might be able to do a couple of people on the same keyboard, dunno.

I'm probably gonna download it later and try it out.

@SPArchaeologist You should play Octodad. The new one is Steam-only, sadly, but the original game is still DRM-Free (and free of charge too).

You can get it here I think

Hilarious game.

►

SPArchaeologist

Will give that a look

The Wobbuffet

Lol

SPArchaeologist

After I work out how to put Socrates Jones on a portable device (currently thinking of usint Ouya)

@GnomeSlice (you know Socrates, I assume)

GnomeSlice

OUYA is cool. It's kind of overshadowing the GameStick though, which sucks.

@SPArchaeologist Yeah, I think so.

If you have Unity, play Raptor Safari

SPArchaeologist

@GnomeSlice - Socrates Jones: Pro Philosopher

basically a remade Ace Attorney

GnomeSlice

17:02

I've never actually played the ace attorney games, but I know about them

=[

SPArchaeologist

This one is mostly the same, but with some philosophic discussions instead of a tribunal

GnomeSlice

Doesn't actually look familiar. I'll check it out later, thanks!

SPArchaeologist

And that said, I have to go for now. Thanks for the suggestions @GnomeSlice, I will give them a look. After I finish reincarnating Laharl for the n+1 time.

See ya

GnomeSlice

@SPArchaeologist Peace

The Wobbuffet

I know perfectly well now why I need more rep...

Everyone is saying my "stats are low" or whatever that means

Bart

17:08

"Stats are low! Give him more stats! Stat!!!"

Laszlo Papp

does three downvotes within a minute for different answers count as serial downvoting?

(got that today)

The Wobbuffet

0

Q: Scrollbar is spazzing

When you go to a chat room and you scroll all the way to the bottom, the scrollbar keeps appearing, disappearing, appearing, and repeat. Every time the scollbar appears, the site scrolls up about 1 pixel then down again. I am on a Macbook pro with OS X Mavericks 10.9.1

^Very weird

But it stopped happening

Bart

Could @LaszloPapp. But no guarantees

You received them?

Laszlo Papp

Bart, yeah.

moreover, I even saw the incident user losing 3 reps. ;-)

Bart

I've had them reversed like that, but there have been instances where that didn't happen

Laszlo Papp

17:12

(and he did not even object to that, but he removed his comment)

Tim Post

@LaszloPapp Yeah, when they could not have possibly even read what they were voting on, it does. I took care of it, they've .. got a bit of a penchant for doing that

Laszlo Papp

@TimPost: can you see deleted comments easily?

Tim Post

@LaszloPapp Yeah

The Wobbuffet

Somebody post a two-line comment

Test
Test

Nope...

hichris123

> When i random my object so its overlapping too much

Um... what?

Laszlo Papp

17:14

@TimPost: stackoverflow.com/questions/20993593/…

Tim Post

@hichris123 "My opinions on the matter vary wildly, and often conflict with one another." (I speak fluent gibberish)

Bart

What's the problem there @hichris123? When he randoms his object, so its overlapping too much. Seems clear.

hichris123

I think the problem is that he's randoming his object.

@TimPost You have to in order to deal with spammers. :P

Bart

RANDOM ALL THE OBJECTS!

hichris123

stackoverflow.com/a/21834814/2581872 - well then...

Bart

17:18

Yay, another guaranteed helpful flag

The Wobbuffet

Apparently, I don't have enough... on meta

Bart

Enough for?

The Wobbuffet

Being a mod

That's what people say

Tim Post

@LaszloPapp Careful throwing out the 'minimal understanding' -- we got rid of it precisely because it creates a lot of conflict and confusion as to why a question was closed.

The Wobbuffet

hichris123

17:22

Who encodes a video in JSON? — CommonsWare 17 mins ago

Bart

Ah, I see your nomination @TheWobbuffet. Some of the criticism seems fair enough. Don't get too discouraged though. Hang around and come the next election you'll be a far better candidate.

The Wobbuffet

@Bart I'll just casually wait a year, then

Bart

Not casually, actively! ;)

hichris123

I think you're actually going to be in the primary @Undo! :D

Bart

Ooh, 2 hours to go?

hichris123

17:26

Yeah... 2 and a half to be precise.

Dennis Meng

29 candidates

so looks like everyone's going to be in the primary?

hichris123

It's never over till it's over. :P

Bart

Tell me when it gets to 30. Then I might just nominate myself. :p

hichris123

@Bart And kick me out. goes to get rep :P

Bart

Better go for bounties then @hichris123

Dennis Meng

17:28

@hichris123 You're one of 2 nominees i saw who have less rep than me

hichris123

Well, I can rep cap today. :P

@DennisMeng Yeah... sigh. I prefer editing, closing, reviewing, etc to getting rep and answering questions.

Dennis Meng

@hichris123 It's fine; me too. I've gotten all of 2 rep in 2 weeks

hichris123

Yay, ice!

animuson

Ha holy crap. A totally random and wild guess got me into my old AOL account. xD

hichris123

@animuson What was it?

animuson

17:31

That wouldn't be a very secret question if I just told you the answer...

hichris123

So? You change it to something you'll actually remember.

Dennis Meng

Just think though, half the new users will probably not remember what a dial-up tone sounds like

animuson

Member Since 7/12/07

-8

Q: Age restriction for mod election?

I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but I believe there should be an age cap to run for moderators, because people as young as 13 have & are running for mods. I have no problem with that, but considering mods are obligated to fulfill some tasks, these tasks would be better at t...

discussion election

hichris123

@animuson Can we dupe of the BoltClock one? :P

Laszlo Papp

@TimPost: that is all I can say... I do not understand the issue, the answer is there, etc. Surely, 40-50 days is enough to understand a few lines? It can only happen otherwise IMHO, if the OP lacks the basics. (I did not wish to give the reason of careless for an answer for 40-50 days).

animuson

17:39

What's the BoltClock one?

ProgramFOX

-90

Q: Evaluating the risks of allowing teen moderators on the SE network

I have a David vs Goliath case here involving a teen moderator on Stack Overflow. His display name is BoltClock. I'm a low reputation SO user (less than 150 points) who was recently suspended for Voting Irregularities by BoltClock. Eventually the mistake was corrected by another non-teen moderat...

discussion moderation account-suspension

hichris123

-90

Q: Evaluating the risks of allowing teen moderators on the SE network

I have a David vs Goliath case here involving a teen moderator on Stack Overflow. His display name is BoltClock. I'm a low reputation SO user (less than 150 points) who was recently suspended for Voting Irregularities by BoltClock. Eventually the mistake was corrected by another non-teen moderat...

discussion moderation account-suspension

@ProgramFOX Mine oneboxed. :P

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 Fixed. Had copied the URL without http://

Laszlo Papp

-90? That is not agreement, right? :)

hichris123

@LaszloPapp Yeah... I think one of the most downvoted posts on meta...

Laszlo Papp

17:47

How about age restriction for old people?

over 70-80?

Bart

Just filter their contributions on an "In my day" ... if it's there, they are too old.

Laszlo Papp

haha

Dennis Meng

@Bart What about people saying "In my day, the close vote queue size had 5 digits?"

(or even gasp 4)

Bart

.... I'm in trouble

Laszlo Papp

pictures or did not happen!

Bart

17:52

In those days, there were no pictures @LaszloPapp

Laszlo Papp

:-)

hichris123

@LaszloPapp There is one: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/66384/237685

Bart

I think I might still have a tapestry of it though

Laszlo Papp

Bart, put up for auction.

Bart

Ha, you just made the comment I didn't want to make @LaszloPapp :)

Laszlo Papp

17:59

@Bart: OK, I can delete it.

Bart

Not what I meant. I was merely tempted

Laszlo Papp

I deleted it. Perhaps, it is not necessary.

@Bart: I made a funnier instead, IMHO. :-)

Bart

:)

hichris123

primary voting begins
in 1 hour

sigh No computer, 1.9 hours != 1 hour

That's horrible rounding.

animuson

The reckoning is upon us!

How many last-minute nominations you think we'll get?

hichris123

18:04

@animuson What does happen if you try to nominate yourself?

Undo

@animuson holy cow, the community sure mashed that :P

@animuson exactly enough to kick me out.

animuson

There's usually always at least one that waits until literally the last few seconds.

hichris123

@animsuon Illegal use of <kbd>. Code 3.

And already removed by @Bart. :P

Bart

For a user talking about maturity ...

animuson

What are we talking about?

Bart

18:06

meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/221571/revisions

^^^@animuson

animuson

Oh.

Laszlo Papp

wow

Undo

I can survive three more >5.4k users nominating :P

then I'll get kicked out in the primaries, most likely,

Bart

Hmm, where to find 3 such users ....

Flyk

18:25

emails Jon Skeet, Jon Skeet's sock puppet, and Jon Skeet's sock puppet's sock puppet

there we go, three more 100k+ users just nominated

rene

That does explain the rep of mr Skeet...

@Bart That was my comment !@#$%%

Bart

MUWAHAHAHA

Too slow

animuson

All your comments are belongs to Bart.

rene

you beat me by 6 seconds..

Bart

OMG. Do you know how much procrastination I can fit in 6 seconds? Geez you're slow.

hichris123

18:35

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about not being able to use search engines. — Strawberry 12 mins ago

Really people? That's not a valid close reason...

Bart

You've got to love a job description that says "Flexible working hours" and then goes on to state they have a mandatory scrum session each day at 9am.

"That close reason is invalid because it appears to indicate you being an ass and you know it" @hichris123

hichris123

@Bart Pretty much.

:P

Bart

Couldn't resist leaving a comment

Well, a toned down version of other options ...

animuson

I should write an Inappropriate Custom Off-Topic Reasons mod message...

hichris123

@Bart That's the best way I've seen to constructivly put it. :P

@animuson Yes! Please. :)

But I'm winning the vote (just)! — Strawberry 25 secs ago

Um... what?

Oh, the comment vote.

Bart

18:42

Myeah @animuson, given that it's apparently a popularity contest to him, please do. :)

hichris123

Well, now it's +4, +5 so he's no longer winning...

Bart

Must resist leaving youtube.com/watch?v=IV4sB7O97ro

LowerClassOverflowian

This is my first election, so I'm an important voter.

Will there be more helpful/useful statistics on the candidates when voting starts?

Because as of right now that stats page just seems to show which relevant badges they have or do not have..

I would like stats that show # of flags, # of helpful flags, # of reviews in close vote queue, # of looks good, # of closed, etc, etc, etc

Manishearth

@LowerClassOverflowian there will be a town hall chat where they can answer questions

Stats aren't so important

Undo

@Manishearth uh-uh. No town hall this year.

oh, wait, no QA chat session with set questions this year. Whoops.

bonks self

hichris123

18:57

No, there is no town hall.

Is this in lieu of the town hall events of previous elections? — Pëkka Feb 10 at 20:11

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