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21:00
@rene I'll do mine in a bit, I'm working on posts in Charcoal! :P
Don't bother generating them for me.
21:17
@JanDvorak I just had fun cleaning up that user you flagged. ;P
@animuson What did they do?
Lots of self-promoting on off-topic product-recommendation questions.
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Yay, self promotion
@animuson If you want fun, check my close flags for recommendation questions. :P
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Joined parenting.se a week or two ago (when it had a question on the hot q's list)... that site I can already see is hard to police spam effectively on
Not because there's a ton of spam
21:20
Tags have nothing to do with mods. tags are moderated the same way as questions -- by the "community". That is how 99.99999% of all of the tags got created! "By great viewers like you!" — qwertynl 12 secs ago
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but because it's so hard to tell real spam from an actual parent recommendation for something
@hichris123 That requires me to actually scroll through a bunch of pages. I wish they'd add those neat sorting buttons so we can sort all the active flags to the top. I did go through some of your flag history once before.
I think I stopped at like page 10 or something.
Got bored with all of those comment flags, eh?
So what do they look like, how can you get to my flag from the page @animuson?
Click on the title to go to the post?
21:22
Oh, yeah you have that ability to get all flags from a post. :P
Well, the recommend closure flags don't show up on the post itself. But if we close the question ourselves it will dismiss them as helpful.
@hichris123 You have a bunch of red lines in your flag history now...
@animuson Uhh... why?
Have you been going on a decline-spree?
The title gets highlighted in that redish background when the post is deleted.
Ah, ok :P
Usually when I'm closing really crappy recommendation questions like that, I just delete them immediately after closing them. No real point in letting them linger around.
21:28
@animuson Yay! Deleted questions!
@animuson Hinty hinty, I have a JS autoflagger thingy. If you want it, it would close questions for you that id's you put into it. :P
I'm not sure those two flags make sense together...
hehe
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Makes plenty of sense to me ;)
very low quality overly long answer
if I'd been on SO at 17 I probably would've been all about that
@animuson yestheydoifthewholethingiswrittenlikethis
SO was just starting when I was 17.
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21:36
I doubt SO existed when I was 17
(thank goodness)
the internet barely was taking off back then
(thank goodness)
I was a boring 17 year old, but still glad that there's very little of my 17 year old self left on it
You make me want to be a mod now, @animuson. So I can bring a mod hammer down on posts and delete comments. :P
What about "other" flags?
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Well, get involved in a an alpha site then
and become a mod :)
TBH I'd guess about 50%, maybe more, of our "other" flags are along the lines of "should this go on <site>?" or "please delete my question"
@animuson Wow. Or this post has obsolete comments. :P
21:39
People flag for migration to Code Review a lot. I never handle any of them.
hichris doesn't look too bad with a diamond ;)
@Undo Um... okay. You had that all planned. :P
I plan everything.
@animuson I'm curious, how much stuff is flagged for migration and not crap?
21:40
shrugs I tend to skip over migration flags. Not my thing. I'm not very familiar with what's on-topic elsewhere on the network.
@Undo That makes me paranoid. :)
I do help out and decline the ones that are just plain too old to migrate anyways.
So what do you do, decline with custom comment?
decline -> other -> "Too old to migrate."
What do you have the most fun doing with your mod powers? :P
@Undo How did you mock that up?
21:43
I don't think I have a "most fun" activity.
@hichris123 HTML manipulation.
@animuson Ok, what's your least fun activity?
@Undo Nice.
@Undo ^ You don't look too bad either. :P
oooh, is there a mod interview going on? :P I'll throw in a question: What is the biggest thing (in your opinion) that you can do as a mod that you couldn't do as a 20k user?
Suspend doorknobs
Obviously, duh
Suspend doorknobs who still have snow on them. :P
21:47
@DoorknobofSnow I'm not a 20k user though.
@animuson ah, but on meta you are.
@hichris123 lol, too lazy to change back to Doorknob :P
There is snow on the ground where I am. :P
Same here
I do enjoy seeing deleted posts in user histories. :)
I'm in Texas so no snow here :D
21:49
And our secret moderator timeline. :o
Although the secret developer timeline is much cooler.
very interesting. thanks :)
@animuson What's so special about it? Reviews are on it, flags?
brb, butterscotch-flavored pumpkins are falling on my foot
@hichris123 Reviews, flags, votes to close (including expired ones), various debugging things.
I so want your mod tools. :)
21:54
I want them too
feature-request: when someone suggests an edit that adds in meaningless code formatting, show a randomly chosen letter of their username in code formatting for a week.
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+1
@Undo , please edit that!
I'm starting to get the feeling that any programmers needing to do tasks with software tools are hosed on Stack Overflow. I just went through the huge list of deleted posts and most have to do with finding or using the right tool. Glad I don't need to figure out any tools to use right now.
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It's pretty hard to write a good 'finding tool' question that isn't inappropriate
'what features should I look for in an IDE' is okay, but 'what IDE has x features" is not, right?
as the latter would be off-topic per "questions asking to recommend/find a tool .."
22:04
@Joe First is still opinion based.
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@hichris123 No, not necessarily
I mean, that exact one is
but you could write a question getting to the specifics, perhaps
Though that's largely my point... it's hard to write one that isn't something, either off topic or opinion or ...
@Joe, yep, it is hard to be specific enough that people won't flag it as a poll-type question. The two problems are that 1) too many would close even if it was phrased right because they're used to closing questions asking for tools and 2) tools are a huge part of what programmers use, so it doesn't make sense to cut them out of the SO equation.
They need to find a way to allow these, maybe that Area51 site that was mentioned will work.
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@LanceRoberts I don't think realistically you're going to get that on SO. Tools are important, but SO is not the only site for programmers. A forum is a good place to discuss tools, SO is not really.
Someone left a message for @TimPost: i.imgur.com/k3y3kjM.png Not sure if he cares or not...
@animuson is trying reach the top of the top reviewers for today in the close vote queue
22:10
@ɥʇǝS Heh, spammers know his name? Wow, Tim Post is popular!
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That's one of the blade-guys, right? the ones causing trouble in one of the subsites
that have to be mass-deleted
@hichris123 Well these spammers watch our meta and any chat room we try to talk to them in, so I'm sure they figured out who Tim is.
@Joe Yep.
But I'm not here asking for flags, we handled the last batch ourselves.
@ɥʇǝS If you want any help...
@animuson Are you handling all of my flags?
whistles
24 left... :P
22:14
After a certain user came back to my site, most of the NAA flags I cast on comment answers started getting disputed.. I guess that goes to reinforce what (I think it was Bill the Lizard) said about flagging comment answers as custom..
Oh gosh:
my questions is "inappropriate" due to god mods and down voters look I am down voted here. this site is out of control — MichaelEvanchik 42 secs ago
I've never been called a god mod before. :P
@hichris123 someone even made a prank on him at some point by creating a fake account in a dating site with his full name and real picture, Tim mentioned it somewhere :D
@ShadowWizard That I want to see. :D
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A: Is someone misusing my email to post on SE?

Tim PostSomeone is either playing a joke on you, or doing this to simply rattle you. They've been using your email across a few IP's to create unregistered accounts on random sites, where they basically paste the contents of your profile into a question. I've deleted four fictitious accounts so far, an...

> someone recently signed me up for the Over 50 version of several dating services, probably just an annoying prank
22:20
> helpful flags 2013
:D
@animuson That's probably the fastest spam flag handling ever.
Um... still active in the LQP queue. stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/3912015
It doesn't get invalidated in the review queues immediately. It takes a couple minutes to update there.
New users cannot review it further because it's deleted, though.
Hey guys, anyone already got invited to use the iOS app alpha version?
Can we reopen this and close vote as duplicate from this
I'm out of close votes
I already voted for reopen
ok, I'm back
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ooh, ios finally?
22:26
Hmm... 2 waiting for review. :P
@ShadowWizard raises hand
wait, never mind. Android, not iOS
oops :P
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@ShadowWizard I haven't been invited to test it out, but if someone were to invite me, I wouldn't object
@animuson Good job!
Now, do you want some comment flags? :P
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I'm curious sometimes how very high rep users can have no idea what a valid answer is like
@Joe Like what?
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22:28
on the currently-in-the-meta question on c++ and bitmaps, the deleted answer there is either a comment or a close vote for duplicate question
23k user
got -2 and then got mad and deleted it because he was getting downvotes on a 'perfectly valid answer'
which was solely 'did you google it, if so you would have seen this SO question'
@Joe Oh, I can't even see that. :P
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which is certainly not a valid answer
Yeah I did see that
The question is a dupe really
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How do you get to 23k without knowing what a basic answer is?
I mean, I realize it's c+
C++
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22:30
if I posted in C++ I'd be at 50k by now probably
but, still
this makes me sad :(
@DoorknobofSnow what sad? He totally deserved the downvotes
@DoorknobofSnow The 10k tools I dearly want. :P
@ShadowWizard The fact that a 20k user thought that answer was "perfectly valid."
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Exactly
22:32
@DoorknobofSnow yup, I share your opinion, too bad nobody told him yet
the non-deleted answer is terrible too. (Any 20ks to vote to delete? there's already 2 deletevotes)
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Can't comment on deleted answers, or I would
@Joe you won't get invited just like that, you need to ask for it
> If you’re an iPhone user, sign up for the iPhone alpha today! We’ll start inviting alpha testers soon, and hope to launch the iPhone app in a few short months.
@DoorknobofSnow nah, think it better stay as example of how not to answer
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@ShadowWizard so I'm supposed to read announcements about Android to find out about IOS now? :p
/me goes to find questions to answer to get repz!
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22:36
@hichris123 Apparently, answer on c++ :p
Actually, regex are easier, though that's sort of dirty
@Joe But... I don't know C++! :(
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rep-farming regex questions :0
I like my Java and PHP and MySQL/SQL. :P
^ What happens when websites don't provide a way to easily delete your account.
22:53
@animuson Why did you even have an account there in the first place?
There was some lottery promotion at the grocery store I worked at a long time ago. I don't remember the exact reason I created the account, but it was related to that.
Am I wrong here?
The ad should call developers to give hand in developing the project or tool, not just use it. I just searched your site and couldn't find any way to submit changes to the source code. — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago
@ShadowWizard Nope.
lol
You posted in the second between my lines
lol
22:58
@animuson you probably can help, do you get the concept of this?
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The concept of community ads?
> Flagging comment #1 of 49
@animuson ^ Better?
I'm trying to imitate D&D power cards, how does this look? :D
(the real cards just looks darker because of bad camera setting or something, which I'm clueless about :P)
@DoorknobofSnow nice!
Wait.... this can't be coincidence
23:05
@ShadowWizard thanks :)
?
no, lol
he is a friend IRL
But.. both of you got Llama obsession
and APPARNENTLY he wants to copy everything I do :/
@DoorknobofSnow oh, now I see
23:06
yes :P the "of snow" was stolen from me as well, he used to be doorhandle (hmmmm...)
Oh gosh I had a friend like that once...
@animuson what happened to him? ;)
I no longer talk to him.
I told him in Skype that we're talking about him :P maybe he'll come
23:07
@DoorknobofSnow True
Still looks like you're talking to yourself, @Door ;)
Man of Steel, if you don't get it :P I know nothing about it, just thought it was a cool name
@animuson You're too efficient in handling flags. :P
@hichris There's a website that really helps with flagging :)
23:08
@ManofSnow I do say you are a sock. :P
> age 13
That says a lot...
No :P IRL llamas have become really important
With all my friends, just randomly because of Doorknob :P he even says he "is" a llama
But it's his thing
I'm a llama trapped inside a human body. I even have a shirt that says exactly that!
@ThiefMaster ThiefMaster says a lot, too...
@DoorknobofSnow and @ManofSnow well as long as you don't also wear the same color of clothes every day guess all is good :-)
23:11
Answerified for repwhoring, please accept! — jimworm Jul 29 '11 at 15:54
Well then...
:P
REP is the main reason I use SE
@ManofSnow Why do you care about imaginary internet points :/
and why do you always capitalize "rep"...?
Superiority
As for why i capitalize it, I have no idea
@hichris123 weird, there used to be 1-hit-kill for comments with "accept", flagged it now and it survived
Wouldn't it be rep. short for reputation?
23:14
@ShadowWizard We'll see if it goes with my flag. :P
@Man REP looks too much like RIP
> Flagging comment #6 of 39
@ShadowWizard No, the instant-deletion key-phrase is "accept rate"
"rep is the main reason..." look much better
@animuson oh, shame.
but did you see my flag?
@animuson Why does that even exist anymore, anyway?
23:15
@Shadow If you ever want to nuke comments, Charcoal can help. :P
the "accept rate" instadelete thing, I mean
@hichris123 too black for me :D
@DoorknobofSnow Old comments?
Well, I'm sure there are still comments out there about accept rates that need deleted.
I have to delete them every once in a while.
^ I should find a funny comment with accept rate that I've flagged. :P
23:16
@animuson too bad we have no real way to search comments
@ShadowWizard SEDE
@ShadowWizard Are you sure? :P
ohhh.. silly me
You're right!
And yes, charcoal is black. Isn't it? :D
Other friend irl is kid, don't know his profile because it's hard to find him
@ShadowWizard No, it's #222222.
23:18
lol, my dad's cell phone just rang with a weather update from school, and then my mom's phone rang... and then the home phone... and then my dad's phone rang again because his work phone automatically called his cell phone telling him that his work phone has a voicemail! guess what it is?
oh, and as if that's not enough they sent an email too
@ShadowWizard It is, but are you sure you don't want a login?
@Random: If this solved your problem, then please accept this answer. I notice you have a 0% Accept Rate, which is generally frowned-upon round here... — Oli Charlesworth Apr 17 '11 at 16:53
@animuson hey, that's @Jin's job :O
^There's one
That's him
Not very big on the SO thing
Anyways, I'm trying to get more REP than Doorknob, that's why I want it so much
@hichris123 lol, for a second I thought that was a ping to random the diamond mod... :P
23:21
@DoorknobofSnow Heh, would have been funny if it was. :P
erwaysoftware.com/charcoal/posts.php is the site, gets lots of flags according to Doorknob
@hichris123 "never say never"... so what login are we talking about? :)
I find it odd that when insta-deletion applies, the comment shows as being deleted by the user who flagged.
@ShadowWizard Up one message... and NO JUSTIN BIEBER!
@ManofSnow ...they know, @hichris is... the co-creator? or just a supporter :P
23:22
@animuson Like me. :P
lol
But how does it work? API?
@DoorknobofSnow Helper/came late but still helps with the code. :P @Manish was the other co-founder.
@ShadowWizard SEDE goes to MySQL database.
I'm out of comment flags. :P
Time for some Papo & Yo, c'ya guys!
hichris is giving me an account for charcoal :D
bye @Shadow!
23:25
Does it actually hack SE, or does it use something like data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/new
@hichris Yes, it does use that I'm guessing, because you have an account :D data.stackexchange.com/users/12446/hichris123
@ManofSnow That. We do a SEDE query, then import the comments into a database and the webapp selects from that databse.
Of course :)
And let me guess, it finds post where users recommend things?
@ManofSnow Not yet. I just do SEDE query's for that.
Haha I say 'please accept' all the time :P
Oh
So does your email have two .com's in it?
23:28
no
Just one, i thought i edited that :P
basically
@ManofSnow That's what I was asking. Okay, check your email in a sec.
Should be in your email now. :P
Taco time!
I have lots of emails :P I use gmail because it provides lots of space
(for some)
@animuson You've earned it by going through all of my flags. :P
Nice :D Is everyone open to query suggestions?
23:34
@ManofSnow Sure.
Wait, so we have to paste the javascript in our browser?
Or just press the buttons, i havent tried yet
I've never flagged a post as obsolete before, does that mean the comment has no productive use?
So you click the helpful and invalid buttons, then once you've done your ammount for the day you click Generate, then copy & paste the JS into the console on the site (SO), then press enter,
that explains the lots of views
@DoorknobofSnow Nice surprise face :)
23:37
@ManofSnow It means that the comment has been deemed obsolete (no longer needed). For please-accepts, just click the dropdown and change it to too chatty.
And if it was accepted and they said 'please accept', it would be obsolete?
You could say obsolete, or it could just be too-chatty anytime (please accept comments are useless).
Got it
Wow, flags sure take a long time to get processed on Meta.
It wouldn't bother me except that stupid red box won't go away, even after I've cast my flag vote.
How do I know how much flags I can do per day? I can only do 10, right?
23:47
Are you going to delete this answer or continue to soak up illegal EXP from it? — Evan Carroll 3 hours ago
oh dear, Evan Carroll is back :(
@animuson Suspend him! :P
@ManofSnow Just go to something and click flag, you see how many flags you have left.
It's different for comments & posts.
How long do you think this will take to run?
Select Id, Body, Id AS [Post Link]
From Posts
Where PostTypeId = 1 AND LEN(BODY) < 100
AND Body NOT LIKE '%what book%' AND ClosedDate IS NULL
AND Body LIKE '%what library%'
45351 ms
45351 ms I'm guessing
> Flagging question #1 of 10

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