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@Spevacus basically sit on it till its got the best chance of getting done? :D
@JourneymanGeek Also known as "Tactical stillness" ;)
Yup :D
though without roadmaps picking the right time is hard
Best we've got is this. Let's review!
- Iterating and scaling the SG, which lead to... Reviewer stats. And not much else just yet.
- Discovery on improving answering. Radio silence on this one.
- The community asks sprints which, while a great idea, don't last long enough for meaningful asks to be completed. In order for us to get just one more working week we had to sacrifice the Q4 one.
And that's a wrap for Q4.
Best thing in the bucket were the Community Asks sprints. Those are nice. I'm happy for them. I wish they were scaled to be longer, and I hope that 2025 means that will be the case.
Oh wait I'm sorry these were also Q3 goals.
00:41
I see a lot of specific things being backlogged (points at mod team)
I can't even really blame the new AI obsession on it
Yes I've been watching. The longer these things go without being addressed the bigger the backlog gets. Whatever's consuming their time has been felt just about everywhere.
I get the feeling at least some of the staff are taking my feedback about the numbers/roles of CMs and other staff with the view of, me being after the job but to an extent I don't feel that the way things work now is working for the community
@JourneymanGeek Oh and let's not forget the network wide data dump you've been asking for
Not that that sore spot needs any more salt in the wound.
lol
I mean, I literally have let them know I wanted one before the current data dump format went public. I let them know why, and have reasons compatible with their restrictions. I literally bought a hard disk for this :D
But yeah, that's a thing
Honestly, its probably more the principle of the thing at this point. Its easier to grab it off internet archive or directly with a script
It almost feels like someone, somewhere's deciding to just ignore me till I go away, and honestly, I'm a little exhausted by the company doing that
 
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09:13
ignores @Journey until he goes away
09:24
So, as expected, the company choose to stay silent on this mistake. No surprise!
I thought there was some change, some hint of actually coming towards us, but, well, this proves otherwise.
All just empty words.
@ShadowWizard so, how long should I set the timer for the next time you reach this conclusion?
@AndreascondemnsIsrael I agree here. Discussing this point is a time waster. First, even if this was an internal experiment gone live because "error" it would still prove that the experiment is running and the shoe is simply going to fall later. Second, if this really was a "this shouldn't be live yet" scenario, I would expect the company to at least be able to delete the user by now... and yet it is still there.
Others may think what they prefer and choose to live in the status quo.... but the experiment is there and will come soon or later. Going ostrich won't change it and @AndreascondemnsIsrael is perfectly right.
@M.A.R. 6-8 days, of course. ;)
This changes nothing though.
@ꓢPArcheon Like come on guys can't we talk about something more pleasant? Like ice cream.
@ꓢPArcheon @Andreas is always right! ;)
09:30
@M.A.R. second line.
oh no we're being watched by a green eye
backing away from @Buck
@ꓢPArcheon I'm biased but caramel ice cream is not half bad as it sounds actually
@Buck hello stranger
uh oh
Too many pings might trigger the Thorn.
Thanks, appreciate the confidence in my rightness.
Hmm, don't trigger chemists
09:34
And I see you're being very generous; Monday is here already, they should've jumped and responded immedaitely when our planet hit 9th December.
@AndreascondemnsIsrael behind your back we actually like you. Do with that information what you will
Also, ice cream, yum, hadn't it been for my stomach being full.
@M.A.R. Thanks, I'll install a new screen on my back so you can enjoy me more.
8K, 360Hz, 1ms latency.
whispers "yesss"
@AndreascondemnsIsrael what size is the screen?
Wait until you find out the colour and brightness.
@ShadowWizard You can't see it?
09:37
@AndreascondemnsIsrael too small
It's there, I can ensure you. Very impressive technology, manufactured like a CPU.
:10011080 k supplements aren't "FDA-approved" you dingus
@AndreascondemnsIsrael ah, I see it. Shiny!
I think you too are rediscovering mooning
I'm about to rediscover napping.
09:45
As in a nappy?
Good!
@AndreascondemnsIsrael pull up your pants first
Pants are really overestimated. :P
You're a skirt fan? :P
@Tinkeringbell how did you know?! feels exposed
Binaries are useful sometimes :P
09:58
@M.A.R. sure Smokey isn't case sensitive?
!!/Coffee test
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of espresso for @test
@ShadowWizard Robots don't have feelings.
I remember @balpha is sensitive to his Case, e.g. annoyed when someone @Balpha him. ;)
@M.A.R. I'm ShadowBot
His model is more advanced
@ShadowWizard no you're not
10:00
@Tinkeringbell binary is so 2024 though, we're almost in 2025.
@ShadowWizard I know!
You were having feelings like half an hour ago
@M.A.R. boop
@ShadowWizard Yeah I picked that because it's creepy. I have purple eyes though so it's not even accurate.
@BuckThorn ah, nice! So the eyes in SE got green due to some chemical reaction? ;)
10:02
Happy 25th anniversary to the whole millennium problem :P
I got this, this weekend, when visiting a great-uncle. It says 'emergency lights, use on 01-01-2000' :P
It has 3 tea lights and a box of matches inside XD
@Tinkeringbell LOL
Phenolphtalein indicator no less. I'm really an X-man and that's my superpower. My eyes change with my mood. When I'm sour they turn... shoot, forgot which way the colors turn. Let me look it up...
@ShadowWizard These tea lights are older than my youngest brother (was born in 2001 :P)
Phenolphthalein I mean. One h too few.
@BuckThorn When angry it's red, easy. ;)
10:04
I'm now torn between just using them, or cleaning the thing up a bit and keeping it as a 'museum piece' on my shelf of weird stuff :P
@Tinkeringbell museum!
Wait 100 years and you can sell it for a small fortune. ;)
Hahaha I won't be alive to see the profit by then XD
@Tinkeringbell who knows.... ;)
I'm not planning to! :P
I'd be 133 by then, and probably won't even remember I have these things XD
oh no spam wave on SU... should we whistle? ;)
Well guess better call them... @Journeyman @David there's ongoing big spam wave on SU, kind of need mods there. Thanks, and good luck! :)
Homepage is flooded currently.
(ah and this kind of proves SpamRam was not improved.)
10:46
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@ShadowWizard I'm told people are running out of flags
That said, the current wave is tentatively handled
@ShadowWizard chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/146742/… throw the account link here
We'll nuke em as time permits
11:15
@JourneymanGeek it's many accounts, most if not all reported by Smokey.
Homepage was flooded, but 13 of what I thought was spam is some odd edit spree of high rep user. (in a row)
(fixing some minor grammar)
gets ready to finally enjoy some high-quality spam
@PetəíŕdtheWizard you can wait for long time. lol
I’m pretty sure it’s just fake imitation spam.
@ElementsInSpace busted!
;)
What landed me here: on chem SE we've had an upset User who's complained about broken images in posts and uneven/unfair moderation: chemistry.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5458/…. Handling of this has not been superior, and the complaints might have some basis (who does not chafe occasionally on SE). But the person is persistently aggressive and convoluted in their arguments and their behavior close to trolling or baiting.
The use of an external image hosting site is suspicious (?). Their contributions have been low quality to negative edits, questions and answers. Chem mods imposed restrictions on answers and suggested edits on the main account. Would appreciate a second opinion on handling this on a longer timeframe, since they are persistent and revisit the site daily. This has been raised with the CM team but no reply yet.
11:25
@BuckThorn well it's no emergency and still early in the start of week, so yeah won't expect CM response too soon. :/
@BuckThorn Looking at their profile, they seem to be at a reputation level where they need to 'suggest' those edits? You can ban users from suggesting edits specifically: meta.stackexchange.com/a/252991/369802. (I now read you may have done that already, sorry)
That might be a temporary solution to stop the edits. Also, if they keep being rude, there's always suspensions for rude/abusive behavior. No matter how frustrating it may be that they can't see some images (my work laptop blocks imgur links too, it's annoying) it's no reason to start being rude about it.
Easy way is suspend and forget, doesn't look like you'll miss something with any big potential of becoming constructive member of the community. But meh, really can't know all the details. I also see there's at least one post marked rude/abusive, or spam.
@Tinkeringbell Yeah, did this just to give ourselves a break. The dialogue was not constructive.
@ShadowWizard One mod regards them as rude, but we'd have to ban many of our regular users by that imprecise measure. Annoying is closer to the truth and that's a personal opinion. I don't understand what they are looking for at chem SE.
Ok, a very long ban might be in the works. Ok, thanks for feedbacken.
@ShadowWizard ah yeah, I saw that
I've killed off whatever I saw
11:47
@M.A.R. also, what the heck is this conversation lol
> Image not found
@JourneymanGeek You're granted the Spam Hunter badge! ...Oh wait, this isn't
 
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@JourneymanGeek yeah, appears clean now, hopefully the spammer is done with SU. ;)
@starball :-D
Well to be honest I wear only jeans most of the time. Shorts at home, and sadly pants during winter, though it's not very cold. :P
@PetəíŕdtheWizard yeah it's not uploaded to SE, let's fix that... done. ;)
@BuckThorn ah, good. I guess. Good luck with that! :)
 
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<!---, …, ---> should be illegal.
15:37
@ElementsInSpace ?
Did you mean <!-- ... -->?
!!/coffee broken comments
@PetəíŕdtheWizard brews a cup of affogato for @broken
@BuckThorn Angry = yellow.
 
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@ꓢPArcheon Wow, they did reply with more.
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A: What is "Answer Bot" and what is it doing?

PhilippeWe’re working on an experiment to explore if/how Large Language Model (LLM) integration can support the human-curated knowledge repositories on Stack Exchange, in this case specifically around answers. The experiment, called “Answer Assistant” for now, is in its early stages, and we’ve been talki...

 
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Others already commented about how foolish this feels, so I'll instead focus on a different question. Exactly when did the company plan to disclose this "experiment" had not one meddling ---kid--- user ruin the plan? Didn't the spirit behind the mod agreement (please, spare me the wording technicalities...) required some sort of discussion at least in the Teacher Lounge? — ꓢPArcheon 1 min ago
18:56
Discovering continents in Tofu is an art in itself.
@ꓢPArcheon Moderators have been aware of this for a few months, and have been able to provide feedback on the concept. This post already indicates that the company has been working with moderators. — Makyen 19 mins ago
The hole is deep, I'll stay out of it.
19:14
@AndreascondemnsIsrael This is insane...I'd say were long past due for another strike
@Starship I moved to Codidact, but you can do whatever you want.
@AndreascondemnsIsrael I would move to codidact if it wasn't a ghost town...
I like ghosts, they're cute.
@AndreascondemnsIsrael I prefer functional sites...

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