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I found an old post which looks like it should be status-declined. I thought only staff/mods can apply status tags, but I can enter the tag in the tag field. I am wary of clicking RETURN to apply the tag as I don't want to apply the tag by mistake. I'd hope that I get a warning message. Here's the post: meta.stackexchange.com/q/116057/1242908 and my comment under links to an answer explaining why it should be declined. Am I right in believing that normal users can't apply status tags?
06:38
@PeterJames Yeah, these status tags can only be added or removed by moderators/staff.
@ElementsInSpace Ah, I see now. I tried to screenshot the tag edit box and an error message popped up saying: "'status-review' can only be used by moderators".
@ElementsInSpace Is there some easy way to request such a tag to be applied? Should I flag this post as "In need of moderator intervention" with an explanation?
Yeah, if you really think it needs a status tag, you can raise a custom flag, and try to explain why, (see Should I flag for moderators to add status tags?).
 
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@PeterJames that can make a decent feature request, e.g. "Don't let us choose tags that we can't actually use", though pretty minor as others already told, and you saw for yourself, the error message is pretty clear when you actually try to submit such edit.
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@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog need context in such cases, e.g. link to the suspended account, etc.
(for those outside MSE who might come to flag.)
@ShadowWizard Hmm, that's an idea. There's a few low rep users retagging on SO and it was discussed there. I did some SEDE queries to try to think of ways to slow them down. If that feature request was implemented, then it would be trivial to extend it to say: a user can only retag a question if they have at least a positive score in their tag list. I have 55 tags in my SO tag list, so I should only be allowed to suggest edits on those tags.
@PeterJames ah, no, that's not what I suggested. Might be a proper request as well, of course.
I just suggested that the tags check will be client side, and you won't even be able to choose red tags.
Not related to reputation, or tag score.
@ShadowWizard Ah, yes. I see. Of course. Two separate requests.
(until mods or staff nuke it)
@ShadowWizard Command not necessary - users are automatically blacklisted on manual reports
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@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog ah. Nice.
Sep 3 at 22:13, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
@ShadowWizard When a user's post is manually reported, they are automatically blacklisted, and future manual reports of posts from the same user will thus show as "Blacklisted user".
I said so before
running a memory check
status-CRC-error
@PeterJames your call, sure. Also might be requested already on MSO, I checked only MSE for what I suggested, and didn't find anything.
Letting users suggest edits only on tags they have positive score in might also been suggested on MSE already, but likely auto deleted. (negative score, no answers.)
As long as we allow anonymous edits, limiting edits to actual users is a bad idea.
(and useless, the user can just suggest it as anonymous visitor.)
@ShadowWizard Ah, yes, I noticed the anonymous users in the SEDE queries. But surely ip addresses are logged even for anonymous users. The problem with some low rep users is they are making 5 to 10 suggested retag edits a day and all they are doing is adding a python tag, for example. Would there be a rate limit for an anonymous user from a particular ip address for edits?
@PeterJames I think there's something global, for all anonymous edits - @Sonic would know.
(i.e. it's not limiting per IP address)
@ShadowWizard Not that I'm aware of.
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hmm well I did find this:
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A: "Anonymous user" trying to destroy posts

Jeff AtwoodThere are some additional restrictions on anonymous user edits that should prevent these sorts of anonymous edits from entering the queue at all. These restrictions are based on the history of the known anonymous bad faith edits. I can't describe them in detail because that would be a recipe fo...

Not really a rate limit, but still something that affect anonymous edits.
But maybe retagging can be totally blocked for anonymous edits entering the suggested edit queue, but they can still edit titles and the body of posts. I can see that there is a point to keep anonymous edits totally anonymous, because maybe somebody wants to make a suggested edit but they are not prepared to have it traced back to them.
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@ShadowWizard There were only 109 tag only suggested edits made by anonymous in 2024 with a 37 percent rejection rate (and this rate was stable at around 15 percent in 2018) (the overall rejection rate for anonymous is 32 percent for 2024 and has been stable at 30 +- 2 since 2016). In 2018, there were 2828 tag only edits with a 15 percent rejection rate. So far, there have been 4009 total anonymous edits in 2024 whereas the peak was 2018 at 25218.
18:48
@PeterJames well, so feature request asking to block tag-only edits for anonymous editors might be better received.
19:10
@PeterJames rate-limiting per IP is a bad, bad idea and you're a heartless monster for suggesting it
What would the circulation system look like for a heartless monster? Maybe has tracheal respiration.
@ShadowWizard sounds like work. Unlikely to be implemented. Maybe the pitch should be it'd further impede Bing from feeding LLMs for free
19:56
@M.A.R. if Bing is suggesting edits, that's already bad...
20:08
@M.A.R. Oh dear. I think I was asking whether a rate limit for anonymous users based on ip address already existed, but I guess it looks like I was interested in applying one. Nope, not interested in rate limiting users by ip address, I can imagine all the problems that causes for users sharing the same ip address. My heart is in the right place, though I haven't had a chest x-ray for a little while, so who knows?

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