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00:55

Hey, golf balls float on lava, so this should make recovering them from the hazards easier.

Eleeza the Other World Wizard

01:58

@ShadowWizard Yeah pretty much like that

M.A.R.

02:30

@ShadowWizard you fowl wizard! This message brought to you by @Journeyman joke services.

@Journeyman, the gift that keeps giving! Ring-a-ding-dong

Petəíŕd the Wizard

05:47

@SPArcheon-onstrike sounds familiar...

Shadow Wizard

07:55

yay! I was able to hold myself from rather improper comment about the title here. proud

:-D

@starball k

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact waiting eagerly

BTW.... I fooled around with "School Bully" character in Character.AI, it's pretty hilarious. :-D

I ended up bullying the poor AI guy. lol

@EleezatheOtherWorldWizard ah, good. And looks like the "chromatic" color I meant is only for cars. :P

It's something that doesn't shine, and prevent dust, I think, didn't check in depth.

@M.A.R. f-owl?

SPArcheon - on strike

08:40

@PetəíŕdtheWizard Long ago ran the sun on a folk who had a dream...

@ShadowWizard Those services are a pandora box that probably should not be opened. Similar sites had to be purged again and again because of the content people would create.

I still think that LLM are quite decent at replacing old text based adventure games (provided that you accept that the model memory is limited so you will have to be both the player and the Gm - lore books help with this) but... you are probably best creating your own bots.

Petəíŕd the Wizard

08:56

@SPArcheon-onstrike lol

@SPArcheon-onstrike agree. Had to experience this myself.

SPArcheon - on strike

09:13

@PetəíŕdtheWizard I assume you get the reference?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@SPArcheon-onstrike yup

SPArcheon - on strike

Mar 27, 2014 at 13:25, by SPArchaeologist

I believe I may have the world record for the longest battle with single npc boss in uo story

Petəíŕd the Wizard

09:35

@SPArcheon-onstrike hmm... I think could've got the wrong reference but they are similar anyway.

SPArcheon - on strike

@PetəíŕdtheWizard this?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@SPArcheon-onstrike if that's what I'm thinking about, then yes.

SPArcheon - on strike

@PetəíŕdtheWizard "Are you thinking about this?" "If this is what I'm thinking then yes".

Tautology (logic)

In mathematical logic, a tautology (from Ancient Greek: ταυτολογία) is a formula or assertion that is true in every possible interpretation. An example is "x=y or x≠y". Similarly, "either the ball is green, or the ball is not green" is always true, regardless of the colour of the ball. The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein first applied the term to redundancies of propositional logic in 1921, borrowing from rhetoric, where a tautology is a repetitive statement. In logic, a formula is satisfiable if it is true under at least one interpretation, and thus a tautology is a formula whose negation ...

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@SPArcheon-onstrike since your messages are somewhat obscure and indirect I decided to also be obscure and indirect. ;)

Shadow Wizard

09:52

@SPArcheon-onstrike Google paid $25B for it recently, so... don't think it will be closed, and as far as I could see, it's not meant for people to share what they create with it. (Which is personal conversations with AI "characters".)

And it does have strong filters, plus "Report" for every message... etc.

SPArcheon - on strike

@PetəíŕdtheWizard oh... fine. Let's disguise my lessons about dark rituals and forbidden arts as games references

these fools in the room won't suspect a thing as we unchain the seals of the sinners and open the gates to the dark sea...

Shadow Wizard

What is the sea dark?

SPArcheon - on strike

Iä! Iä! ᚳᚦᚢᛚᚻᚢ! Ph'nglui mglw’nafh ᚳᚦᚢᛚᚻᚢ ᚱ×ᛚᛁᛖᚻ wgah'nagl fhtagn!

Shadow Wizard

nosdf setgseoptj seteopsn ios t!

Petəíŕd the Wizard

10:16

@SPArcheon-onstrike shh. hides

SPArcheon - on strike

11:00

@Tinkeringbell I assume this is just bot hallucinating things, right?

> Stardew Valley - This farming simulation game, known for its relaxing gameplay and RPG elements, includes a "Clothing" section in its "Character" menu. Here, users can create and design their own character clothes using a simple design tool, choosing from various colors, textures, and patterns.

I don't think Stardew has anything vaguely similar to Animal Crossing custom canvas clothes.

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon-onstrike Nope. There's Tailoring (stardewvalleywiki.com/Tailoring) but that's not in the character menu (that would only be the place where you apply such tailored items)

SPArcheon - on strike

how surprising. A bot lied about not existing features...

Truly unexpected

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, the internet is truly quickly becoming a very helpful place.

Andreas moved to Codidact

11:36

@ShadowWizard Just play Rockstar’s Bully game.

@SPArcheon-onstrike You fought me already in 2014? Wow.

Shadow Wizard

11:57

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Sure!

Shadow Wizard

12:42

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Petəíŕd the Wizard

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A-Tech

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/401506/… should this perhaps be featured? After all it is a rather important issue that affects every user.

Spevacus

@A-Tech The company typically manages the featured tag on Meta, and it's commonly reserved for big announcements/changes in the software. If they provide a decent enough answer to it and think it's worth featuring, then that's their decision to make.

A-Tech

13:03

I see, though moderators could add/remove the tag aswell.

SPArcheon - on strike

time to poke the dog.

@JourneymanGeek see below, I hate onebox

Shadow Wizard

@Glorfindel are you sure "identify this movie" questions are on topic again on Movies.SE? I don't think so.

Last one is from 2017.

You linked to controversy meta post, I don't see it officially accepted.

Better ask Movies.SE mods, anyone we know is around?

Most likely some high rep users there want it to be on topic so they can get easy rep, but... others don't, and will nuke such questions quickly.

Elements In Space

13:21

3

Q: Please unlock and reopen closed ID questions in line with our community consensus

As you may be aware, our community has recently reaffirmed its support for identification questions. Relevant previously featured June 2024 meta discussion post: What does the community want to do with identification questions? This decision has led to several important updates: The identificati...

Shadow Wizard

@ElementsInSpace nope. It links to something written by ordinary user, with accepted answer saying clearly "NO modification, keep ID questions off-topic".

And facts are, there are 0 such questions there now. (since 2017)

If it was really on topic, surely people would have already done it.

So most likely they tried, and it got deleted.

As side viewer, it looks like it's still not on topic, practically, even if some users there got confused to think it is, because someone asked for this.

Only a moderator on the site can really confirm.

Ah, and the question asking for this is in review and featured: looks like mods still look for feedback. But still did not reach any decision.

Elements In Space

@ShadowWizard What do you mean there are zero [identify-this-movie] type questions?

Shadow Wizard

@ElementsInSpace see the dates.

Last one from December 2017.

I did write: (since 2017)

:-)

Back then, it was on topic.

Since then, it's not.

Though they deleted tons even before, think three of mine.

Elements In Space

Sort by active.

Shadow Wizard

@ElementsInSpace how is it relevant?

I mean no new identify-this questions were asked since 2017.

Elements In Space

13:35

The policy was changed since then.

Shadow Wizard

Argh, I mean that they were asked, a LOT, but all of them, to the last, deleted.

For them it's the same as lost souls for us here.

They downvote to oblivion, then delete, usually few hours.

Elements In Space

But they are on-topic once again.

Shadow Wizard

@ElementsInSpace no... that's my whole point here. lol

@ElementsInSpace no.

Unless you can bring a Movies.SE mod who can confirm?

So far I only saw ordinary users there who think or claim it is, that's not enough.

Elements In Space

In the post I linked to it says:

> 1. The identification close reason has been removed.
> 2. Our site tour and help center have been updated to remove references to the ID ban.
> 3. Stack Exchange staff will soon unblacklist the identification tags.

Shadow Wizard

Written by ordinary user.....

Elements In Space

13:39

galacticninja is not an ordinary user.

Shadow Wizard

If that was really the case, I'd expect a mod to announce such a thing.

@ElementsInSpace umm... how so? I don't see a diamond.

I am ordinary user, and so is any high rep user.

I mean non-mod user.

Only exception is user who was a moderator, or of course staff user without diamond.

But otherwise? Rep or activity alone are not enough to give any official stance to the user's posts or what they say.

Also... "Stack Exchange staff will soon unblacklist the identification tags" - that can take years. lol

Staff is VERY short on people these days, and very very busy, doubt they'll find time for such a thing.

So even in case it's all true, practically it's still impossible to ask such questions.

Journeyman Geek

@SPArcheon-onstrike uhhh which thing I was nagging about was this again? :p

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@ShadowWizard boo!

SPArcheon - on strike

13:55

@JourneymanGeek take your pick, you have the unanswered "we will look into this" Data Request questions, the cherry picked replies about the data dump that go around the core issues, the "we will log-in you" thing that may actually be a GDPR violation (automatically recreating an account AFTER you deleted it?)... etc etc etc

the "are you selling our data" question that is "under review" since late July and is probably yet another GDPR violation...

Shadow Wizard

@SPArcheon-onstrike well, clearly anything related to law violations won't get any reply from SE.

They can't say "Yeah, we break the law, haha!"

So they keep silent and hope it will vanish on its own. ;)

Glorfindel

@ShadowWizard movies.meta.stackexchange.com/posts/5065/revisions it has been tagged [featured] by a moderator. That's official enough in my book :)

Shadow Wizard

@Glorfindel nope, it just mean they collect feedback.

See all the above...

And I might be wrong, sure.

But still can't see any confirmation.

Glorfindel

the close reason has also been removed

Shadow Wizard

@Glorfindel might be a bug, or staff doing it by mistake.

Again, I didn't see any mod saying anything like "We allow this again", that's all.

Only non-mod users.

e.g. some CM see the request by ordinary user to allow it again, so they remove the close reason, thinking by mistake that was already decided.

Glorfindel

14:07

2

A: Community discussion on the new ID question close reason

I have deactivated the custom close reason. The 'lacks detail or clarity' should be what people use to close ID questions based on inadequate detail.

Journeyman Geek

@SPArcheon-onstrike ah

Bugging them every week on the full data dump. Asked about the privacy backlog - it's seen and responded to but I can't share the response

Shadow Wizard

@Glorfindel ah, 1:0. But still doesn't prove that ID questions are on topic, just there's no special close reason for them.

Journeyman Geek

I am trying my best to bark up trees. It is yet to be seen if any squirrels drop out 😁

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek they might just drop acorns on your head. ;)

(or ignore the barks like they do anyway)

!!/tea Spe and Eleeza

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard brews a cup of mint tea for @Spe

Shadow Wizard

14:16

should upgrade the commands to allow multiple people...

Spevacus

/o/

Shadow Wizard

*\o*

Spevacus

Ugh, was messing with a script and accidentally declined a flag with a horrendously incorrect reason.

Shadow Wizard

lol

Can't undo?

Spevacus

Nah, I tried to see if the system would let me do a "Clear flags" action on it to make it disputed instead, but nope.

I should just process it. It was just asking for status-completed on a feature request. Of yours, actually! meta.stackexchange.com/q/171469

Do we have an announcement here on Meta SE of the change to conflict-rejections via the Community user on suggested edits to be "Cancelled" instead of "Rejected"?

Shadow Wizard

14:20

@Spevacus no, it's either a silent change, or only on MSO, like way too many things.

But the screenshot in the answer is confusing, so I can't be sure it's actually done. And the author's comment is also not relevant and confusing, so all in all can't upvote and/or accept it.

Spevacus

Yeah I think it was just on MSO. I'm gonna go ahead and retag it while I'm here. The flagger left an answer (and said that they flagged), so I was able to leave a comment for them.

A-Tech

@SPArcheon-onstrike poked

Shadow Wizard

@Spevacus if MSO it's tricky, might be done only for SO.

Spevacus

@ShadowWizard Nah it's everywhere.

Shadow Wizard

OK, fair.

waiting to be completed

Spevacus

14:25

completed

We do seem to typically let staff handle those, but given that I was monkeying around with a flag script... :P

Shadow Wizard

yay

SPArcheon - on strike

@JourneymanGeek I'll poke James Rolfe. That is material for his "You know what is [redacted]?" series...

usual "I know but can't share" Stack idiocy.

@A-Tech I still covet the day one angry user will collect all this mess and report it to an European DPA. Not doing it myself, I am not that evil.... but I won't be crying for them either.

A-Tech

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/40585/… might anyone share what happend here? I lack the points to see deleted posts.

Spevacus

@A-Tech Jeff was giving away an old laptop to the highest-voted answerer for the post on this site (which at the time was Meta Stack Overflow). Joel Coehoorn won. Some of the hardware being chatted about in this post is a huge throwback.

A-Tech

14:41

Huh, seems like I missed the fun™ era of SO/SE :/

Especially given that winter bash/april fools has been sunsetted.

Spevacus

If it makes you feel better, I did too. The initial days were wild, from what I can tell.

Ehhhhh, IMO? Winter Bash was getting a bit old. April Fools on the other hand...

A-Tech

@Spevacus I say: We do it our self, I think I got some ideas for april fools

Journeyman Geek

@SPArcheon-onstrike unfortunately - that's the price of somewhat privileged access. 😅

Shadow Wizard

@Spevacus wonder if that was the first swag event ever, in SE? @Journeyman what you think?

Journeyman Geek

Before my time possibly 😅😅😅😅

Shadow Wizard

14:45

@A-Tech neither involved getting actual stuff, those were given mainly in "swag events", even I, the humble Shadow, got some. ;)

Journeyman Geek

Might be but I recall Jeff did quite a few of those

Shadow Wizard

@A-Tech question is, where you saw that link?

SPArcheon - on strike

@ShadowWizard depends. Shirts/ socks probably predate everything, but the first "not stuff we already had" is probably the Arqade Hat Dash that became Winter Bash

A-Tech

@ShadowWizard Well started with me wondering what the tags top right be about finding out that waffles is an actual tag and doing a bit of arcology on the tagged questions and somehow i ended up at that link

meta.stackexchange.com/a/44256/1422281 that one was it

Shadow Wizard

Anyway, here is the full screenshot. Enjoy! :-D

(can upload to SE, but it becomes unreadable due to resize.)

Shadow Wizard

17:38

whoa

oops

Also it's weird, MS record showing manual report but here it says "Blacklisted user" i.e. automatic report.

JNat

22:12

oh, wow, my backlog of spammers dates back to November

2

eek

anyway, the time has come

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone, gone, gone, gone, and gone

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard When a user's post is manually reported, they are automatically blacklisted, and future manual reports of posts from the same user will thus show as "Blacklisted user".

JNat

22:29

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

JNat

23:02

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

@JourneymanGeek gone

and that is all, apparently

most were from here onwards, though

in JNat's corner, 57 mins ago, by JNat

@ShadowWizard gone

since Shadow began reporting these over there

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