> there have been undervalued associates in the past, whose absence has been clearly felt

@JourneymanGeek huh? ^

@ShadowTheKidWizard lol

I'll wait for you to get it. Its better that way

@JourneymanGeek no need, I know who you talk about, but the question is about the fun part, when they join, not leave. ;)

ah true

I'm being extra cranky this week it seems :D

@JourneymanGeek hey, it's my role to be cranky! :D

!!/uncrank Journey

@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'crank'.

:(

oh wait

@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'uncrank'.

:(

lol

tjat'll take more than a bot command

calling @Journeyman's doctor

lol

o/

@Glorfindel while reading your new FR and going to the mods page, noticed a bug: ChrisF appears as "appointed 3/12/2013" which is obviously wrong...

Back then there were no mods in MSE.

Think it's worth new bug report or too minor?

Wasn't he a mod on MSO (when that had separate moderators?)

@Glorfindel yeah just checked, that's the date he was elected as mod on SO.

Still, that's just incorrect for MSE.

So we know the source of the bug. :D

Yeah, I don't know exactly how the situation was back then.

amusingly - I don't ever remember the mods here before the current lot

was mostly handled by the CMs and staff before things got bad I thought

@JourneymanGeek duh, because there weren't. :D

@ShadowTheKidWizard there's mention of the trilogy mods modding the place I think

Unless you mean before MSE was created, i.e. SO mods

ah

but MSO was actually its own site, and MSE is that renamed

the new MSO is the whippersnapper

That I don't remember for sure, lol

Well I remember random, with his awesome edit summaries; Robert (forgot last name), Brad... and some others which I'll recall their names later, I hope. ;)

random was one of ours

Brad Larsson?

This one @sha meta.stackexchange.com/users/135615/brad-larson

SO

Robert.. Harvey?

@JourneymanGeek yes! Think by now he deleted his MSE profile... :(

edited

yeah I'm aware

All that's left is his test account

Like someone going "poof", leaving only their hat behind...

@Luuklag yup that's the Brad :)

@JourneymanGeek ours?

Oh

Super User

oh lol

Didn't know, saw him only on MSO/E

while I got more rep on MSE these days (:( ) its still my first/main site to me

@JourneymanGeek that's fair

My first is SO, but I don't really feel like belonging there. Not in a bad way, though.

Voting to delete this one, as it keeps on dragging out: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/381396/…

meh, I'd let it die naturally.

technically

user delete votes are a natural death

just wolves rather than old age

lol

meh, I'd let it die of old age (one week, Roomba ;))

in this situation, with an unpopular question I'd wonder 2 things

is there any value in keeping the question

and is hastening the deletion a kinder option

@JourneymanGeek no

@JourneymanGeek no

OP would take it as censorship

well I'd argue the user is frustrated

Which it is, in a way.

so it might be

Someone wants to ask about something, and get it deleted shortly after asking.

And it is on topic.

No rude comments I can see.

But meh, not my call. :D

omg lol

that reads so wrong...

Now that's change of subject :D

Well @Luuk is very direct, that's for sure. ;)

@ShadowTheKidWizard Thats what you get when your Dutch

haha

@Luuklag I could legally do it, if I swung that way

The rest of the world needs another 10 years to appreciate our directnes

But hey, I didn't check it up yet :D

@JourneymanGeek yeah not saying you swung that way

That law hasn't been enforced in years, and basically was there... to keep some concervative folks happy

lol

"PHRASING!"

straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/…

We basically did half the decent thing

and the thing that was more symbolic than a real change

@JourneymanGeek but if the law still exist, they can start enforcing it any moment, without notice.

> But to guard against the move triggering a drastic shift in societal norms, the Government will also amend the Constitution to protect the definition of marriage as one between a man and a woman to stave off future legal challenges, he added.

there's no drastic shift. Its people hiding who they are.

Yeah, mostly formal.

But it's also about tradition, about each family and how they'd react if one of their own is "going off the road", etc. Not just the law.

In Europe and USA, the road itself has shifted, and can be anything now. ;)

"How they'd react"...

Its family, you support your own

@JourneymanGeek lol

I've read about lots of cases where that's just not true, at all.

Well, that seems worth fixing

People came out in front of parents, and were kicked out from home. As teenagers.

It's way too common, to this day, in Israel in the religious parts. Though of course it's slowly improving.

and that's wrong

but \o/

@JourneymanGeek for us, sure. But you can't just educate whole populations.

as I said on twitter

POLITICS ><

There's a famous case here of an orthodox teenager going missing for over 100 days. Everyone think someone kidnapped or murdered him, police and army forces are involved by now, but I think the poor boy chose to leave the religious life and start living as non-religious person, i.e. start a new life. Too bad they probably never bothered to check this direction. (e.g. look in hostels in certain big towns.)

@ShadowTheKidWizard Or maybe that just good for the boy. If that's the reason he left, he probably doesn't want to be brought back to his parents

lost soul: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/381430/…

@Luuklag not sure I got you, what's good for the boy? Being "famous" now?

@ShadowTheKidWizard being away from his parents, safe and quiet

@ShadowTheKidWizard that they haven't found him yet

let him have some peace

@Luuklag yeah that's exactly what I've been thinking since the beginning of the case, and even wrote that in comments on the article(s).

Though now with the media involved, they will have no choice but to accept him, if and when he's "found" and returns to them.

Found article about it. Those arrested might have helped him get away, wonder if that's really true and what they told police.

In that community (ultra orthodox) things like being gay are just not an option. Or even just "giving up religion" as I suspect personally.

Anyway.... need...

Good.

sip slowly

@Journeyman quick moderation question. I'm pretty certain mods can't migrate when the user is question banned on the target site, but what about when the user don't have enough reputation on the target site? (i.e. 1 rep user, migrate to the per-site meta.)

honestly, I don't know

huh!

That's a first. JMG doesn't know about mod stuff! :D

hmm

That's what made me wonder.

You can, in theory, test on that question...

Though I said myself it's a bad idea... lol

@ShadowTheKidWizard so...

Up to you, as always. ;)

I THINK I have done this before

but its not something I actively think about

hehe comments deleted

@JourneymanGeek so, chances are that it's possible?

Well - there's a specific case where a low rep user can ask a question too

Anyway, that one has no value and OP shouldn't get upset, so voted to delete.

if its their own question, with certain keywords or something

@JourneymanGeek just their own question, they have to post the URL to it when asking.

The system verifies it's their own question, and let them post. Think I did it once with a sock, for science. ;)

also in general - folks shouldn't ask questions in the 'wrong' place hoping to be migrated

@JourneymanGeek yeah, that's just wrong.

ah thank you

there we are :D

@ShadowTheKidWizard ^

meta.superuser.com/questions/2159/… we did it once years ago

tho if I recall this was an extra-messy situation

Yeah, expected. Thanks! :)

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